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five-hxrgreeves · 11 months

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An Unexpected Plan

PAIRING: loki laufeyson x reader

POWERS: none

WC: 2.6

SUMMARY: As a S.H.I.E.L.D agent, it was safe to say that you had seen a lot of strange things in your day. Glowing cubes from space, aliens and planetary-scale Armageddons were considered just another day at the office. However, the opening of the multiverse means infinite possibilities, including some that you’d never expect.

WARNINGS: possibly ooc Loki? (this is my first time writing him.)

AUTHOR’S NOTE: So this is based off the post-credit scene in Ant Man: Quantumania for the sneak peek of the Loki series s2. I actually have s1 written on Wattpad with an OC (called Everybody Wants to Rule the World if you want to check it out!), but since Tumblr likes x reader more, I took out the oc. This was an idea I’ve had since I watched s1 so I finally just decided to write a one-shot of it. It may not be accurate to the rest of s2 once it’s released since I just made up some stuff around the 3-second clip that we got.

As a S.H.I.E.L.D agent, it was safe to say that you had seen a lot of strange things in your day. From glowing space cubes of unknown origin to aliens trying to take over New York, the realm of what you considered impossible had broadened over the years. Your considerably high rank as a field agent had allowed you to experience some of these things first hand, which was both a blessing and a curse. It was more so the latter now as you’d been tasked with keeping the notorious trickster God of mischief from living up to his name. Luckily, you were well-equipped for the job— and more than just in the weapons department; you had the uncanny ability to see through lies. (This proved to be exceptionally helpful in an organization whose secrets had secrets.)

However, it was only after more than a decade of service that you were finally thinking that maybe you had bitten off more than you could chew. The God of Mischief had certainly earned his title; in an unforeseen turn of events, he’d gotten his hands on the Tesseract a second time and, before he could whisk himself away to who-knew-where to wreak more havoc, you’d latched onto his arm at the last second to join him for the spin as well. (At least nobody could ever say that you weren’t dedicated to your work.) After that, things had taken a turn for the worse and you’d both been taken to a mysterious time agency and had narrowly escaped death. (Well, maybe death was still on the table— your inevitable end had just been postponed.)

Needless to say, you and Loki hadn’t started out as the best of friends. When you weren’t trying to kill each other (verbally, at least), you glared at one another in sulky silences. But, as they say, trauma draws people together. Somewhere along the line between the end of the world and multiple variations of yourselves, you’d become something akin to. . . acquaintances? Allies? Not necessarily friends, but bonded by enough strange events to have a tentative trust with each other. You were almost certain that Loki wanted more from your relationship, but you hadn’t really forgiven him for what he’d done in New York and besides— whoever heard of a mortal and a God getting a good ending?

Now, however, none of that really seemed to matter; being displaced from your timeline certainly held a bigger threat than whatever was going on between the two of you. After your world-shattering revelation that the statue in the TVA’s library was no longer of three space lizards, but Kang himself you scrambled for answers and solutions. In a desperate attempt to understand the new situation you were in, you’d gotten the new-Mobius’ help of locating (a) Kang in this present timeline, which happened to be in the Victorian Era.

Although the three of you were hidden in shadows in the back of the theater where Kang’s presentation was taking place, your instincts were on high alert. The past few days? (Months?) had taught you that nothing was as it seemed. Even if Kang was currently pretending that he hadn’t seen your little group, you knew not to underestimate him. Every muscle in your body was tense, ready to flee the theater at a moment’s notice if necessary. If you were less of an agent and more of a civilian, you might have even grabbed Loki’s hand— which was only inches from yours in the cramped space— as an expression of the fear that you currently felt. (While you were a seasoned veteran and had seen much in your day, any sane person who knew what Kang was capable of would be scared of him.) Loki seemed to share your trepidation as his eyes never left the enigmatic presenter.

Mobius spoke in a whisper from the God’s other side: “you made him sound like this terrifying figure!”

Neither you nor Loki took your attention away from the man at the front of the room as you replied in sync, “he is.”

As if he’d heard your quiet conversation, Kang’s— in this timeline called Victor— gaze snapped to where you were standing. Although his expression didn’t change and he continued to speak to the crowd, you felt an icy wash of fear trickle down your spine. Instinctively, your weight shifted forward to your toes as you prepared to flee, knowing it wouldn’t be good if Kang or any of his variations caught you as he surely intended to.

You exchanged a glance with Loki, almost one of the same mind after you’d experienced meeting He Who Remains the first time. For Mobius’ benefit, the God breathed out: “run.”

You didn’t need to be told twice; the three of you (after some prompting to get the TVA agent moving) pushed your way as calmly— but also hurriedly— as possible through the crowd to reach the doors. While there wasn’t anyone visibly chasing after you yet, you knew better than to be fooled by the appearance of peace. Once you’d reached the busy London street, you exchanged a look with the men. Not wanting to waste anymore time, you gave one word of warning: “if we get split up, good luck.”

Then, you broke into the fastest run you could considering the crowds of people, animals and carts that went about their daily business. (How nice it would be to not be aware of the multiverse, time travel, interdimensional threats. . . but you consoled yourself that you’d probably become too bored with such a quiet life.) Unsurprisingly, Loki was able to keep pace with you pretty easily— considering he was a God who had to match your extensive training— but Mobius seemed to struggle, especially with dodging obstacles. That was fine, though (as mean as that sounded), since Kang wasn’t after him.

As you ran at a (mostly) steady pace through the winding London streets, cries and shouts began to sound from behind you— it seemed that Kang and his variants were giving the chase. You blocked out the sounds as you focused on running; one foot in front of the other, arms swinging, bent, by your sides, breaths even: in, out, in, out. You ran as you’d been trained to do: for your life. You were so focused on staying ahead of the Kangs that you even lost track of your “running partner” as Loki seemed to fall out of your peripheral vision.

You rounded a corner, and then another, and then— a hand reached out to grab your arm. If given the choice between fight or flight, your always chose the former; you reacted instantly, kicking out with your feet as you attempted to put your attacker in a headlock to take them down.

It was only after a couple seconds of struggling (why wouldn’t this peasant man go down? Didn’t they eat a diet of potatoes and gruel?), you finally registered the man’s protests: “whoa, hey! It’s me— it’s me!”

You let go to eye him suspiciously. In a flash of green, Loki’s familiar form appeared and you let out a sigh of relief which (as it usually was when it came to him) was quickly followed by irritation. “Okay, what the hell? I know you’re the fricken’ God of Mischief and all, but is now really a time to pull tricks?”

“It’s not a trick,” he reassured you. “Well, perhaps it is, in a sense— we can disguise ourselves and blend in, get them off our tail.”

The disguise of a peasant man returned, complete with grubby clothes and matted hair. You curled your lips in disgust. “Far cry from being an Asgardian prince, huh?” you mocked him. “And besides, there’s two flaws to that brilliant plan: one, what about me? I don’t have magic, so pulling me aside to tell me this is just a waste of time. And second, I’m pretty sure Kang the Conqueror can see through something this. . . elementary.”

The peasant man scowled at you, displeased by your jabs. “This is genius, first of all. Before you go touting that you know all about magic, mortal, I can share illusions. Doesn’t your super-secret special agent school teach you self-preservation, or are you willing to take the chance and outrun an impossible amount of Kangs?”

You pursed your lips, weighing your options. As much as you hated to admit it, Loki was right; taking a chance on him was probably better then depending on your running abilities. (Although, to be fair, you were a pretty good runner.) You matched his annoyed expression and crossed your arms against your chest. “Fine, we’ll do it your way— but for the record, my father taught me self-preservation.”

The God smirked at you in that irritating way of his and extended his arm towards you. “Take my hand.”

You watched him skeptically for a moment, remembering how he’d openly admitted to flirting with you in the hours before you’d confronted the Void. As you hesitated— your fatal flaw— you listened for your pursuers and heard faint shouts from their rough interactions with the common people. They were still some distance away, but not comfortable enough to completely forego Loki’s plan. You sighed and— with as much distain as you could muster— took the God’s hand.

There wasn’t anything immediately different about your appearance; when you looked down, you could still see your now-worn combat gear and dusty boots. However, when you looked over at the man next to you, you no longer saw a peasant man; Loki was back to being his infuriating (ahem, handsome) self. You frowned in confusion as you lifted your hand, turning it back and forth to try and see the difference.

“You don’t see the illusion when you’re in it,” he explained with an impossible amount of smugness. “I can assure you, however, that we look as much the same as the rest of this doldrum crowd.”

You gave him a curt nod. “Fine,” you said again. “Let’s try to get out of here, shall we?”

They made their way back onto the main street, looking just the same as the rest of the passers-by. To the rest of the common people, they merely looked like a peasant couple holding hands, out for a nice stroll. Speaking of— “shouldn’t we run?” you asked, looking over your shoulder. Although you couldn’t see the Kangs because of the crush of people, you knew they were there.

“That would draw attention to us,” Loki replied evenly, keeping the steady pace. “All parts of the illusion must be convincing for it to work.”

So, as much as all of your instincts screamed at you to run, you forced yourself to match his steps. Thankfully, the busy city was too noisy to have conversation, otherwise you might have strangled Loki right on the street. (Okay, maybe you weren’t at each other’s throats as often anymore, but he still annoyed the hell out of you.)

It happened suddenly: one moment, you were walking along with Loki at a brisk pace, and the next a man with a golden pharaoh’s headdress appeared next to them. His dark, intense eyes swept the area as he mercilessly pushed carts and people out of his way. Your grip on Loki’s hand tightened in warning, causing the God to look down at you. You jerked your head to the dark-skinned man dressed in gold. His eyes followed your motion and widened before he quickly looked away. Neither of you spoke since the illusion wouldn’t disguise your voice, but your pace picked up slightly.

The next few minutes were very tense as you waited to see if Loki’s illusions would work. It seemed as if the Kang in the Egyptian-styled clothes was tailing you. Loki knew that his magic could only do so much; to the well-trained eye, a very faint glimmer of green could still be seen. They needed to make their illusion even more believable; to do something so out of the ordinary— something that was entirely ordinary, actually— that it would convince even the keenest of observers (which surely Kang was.)

The idea came to him in an instant, causing his chest to fill with warmth. While this would certainly not be his first kiss, it would be his first kiss with you. (And, if he were being uncharacteristically honest, it might be his only chance.) Loki glanced at the Agent out of the corner of his eye, knowing how poorly such a proposal would be received. But, this was a viable suggestion to get the Kangs away from them. So, he tugged the woman next to him to a stop.

You turned to look at the God with an irritated expression. “Need a break, do you?”

Loki was looking down at you intently, his emerald gaze holding yours. Perhaps for the first time, he ignored your dig. “Kiss me.”

Not sure if you heard him right, you stared at him with wide eyes. “What?”

“Kiss me,” he repeated, a little more urgently. He glanced up at the Egyptian Kang who still lingered nearby. He lowered his voice as he hastily explained, “he suspects us. No one looks twice at two people kissing.”

“You’re cra— mmph,” your furious retort was cut off as he placed his lips on yours.

Again, your first impulse was to run, but this time for a different reason. It had been a long time since you’d kissed anyone— since your last love had ended in disaster. You’d vowed to never let anyone this close again after that, but here you were, allowing the God of Mischief to kiss you on a busy street. People brushed past you and jostled you, but Loki’s hands lightly held your arms, keeping you in place. You still had half a mind to push him away and ask what the hell was he thinking, but the other half of your thoughts registered how. . . good of a kisser he was.

You supposed that over a thousand years of practice certainly had its benefits. His lips were soft but insistent on yours, there was just enough tongue movement to make your stomach swoop (the traitor) and although you would deny it if asked, you could feel the electricity zip through you from the action. Just as your shock wore off enough to really kiss him back, Loki pulled away, his gaze flicking over your head to watch the crowd.

“He’s gone,” the God said with relief. Once he’d assessed that the danger had passed, he looked down at you with a smirk. “For someone who claims to hate me so much, I expected you to slap me instead of kiss me.”

You glared at him, any semblance of warmth that had come from the kiss disappearing as quickly as mist in the sun. “That can still be arranged.”

He gave you a shit-eating grin and wrapped an arm around your shoulders. “Come on, Agent. Tell me you didn’t enjoy that.”

You shoved his arm away and turned to resume your path through the crowd, your head held high. “I didn’t. Let’s go find Mobius. Hopefully he hasn’t gotten trampled by a stray horse or something.”

Since you’d already refocused on the mission at hand, you missed the way the God’s smug expression faltered slightly at your stout rejection. It only lasted for a fraction of a second before he quickly recovered and hurried to catch up with you. Grabbing your wrist, he added, “we should still keep our disguises up, just in case.”

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somuchcoffeeandwine · 6 months

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All right, fellow MCU fans

So, after seeing the Marvels today, it got me thinking. Now, you probably don't know who I am. But I do happen to be a writer. Not a very good one mind you (several people would say otherwise, but shush, give me my self-loathing) Phase 4 (and the current parts of 5) is not that great. So I want to rewrite the Multiverse Saga. Yes. The entire thing. Even though it's not finished.

Very long blocks of text below. It's really the only thing that keeps me organized. Please read it though if you are interested. It'll be split up into sections, for somewhat easy perusal.

Now, I know this is an ambitious project, and one not done. I am no stranger to things like this, see my own game/show I'm making. (This is the only time I'm going to mention it. But I am pretty proud of it) So, for my very small amount of sanity, I'm stopping it at The Marvels, and Loki season 2 (Oops, still not finished with it yet). And I wanted to ask people what they thought was lackluster, or mediocre. Not the Marvel I and many other people grew up on. I do understand that it was flawed before, but when I recently rewatched most of them, I found that my childhood love for them had blossomed into something new. I was 6 when the first Avengers came out. I learned how to shoot a bow because of Hawkeye in that movie. And I think it deserves better, especially after watching the Marvels.

Now, this means everything after Endgame. So from Black Widow to The Marvels in terms of the movies, and the Disney+ series from Wandavision to Loki Season 2. I have a feeling it's going to take me a second to get through the remaining 5 episodes of Loki S2. My family wants to watch it with me, and they're all decently busy... Anyways, that's 10 movies, and 9 series. Although I don't accept Secret Invasion. Like at all. Anyways.

I have yet to decide what I'm going to publish this on. Probably A03, just because that's easiest for me. And I can organize much easier. Do let me know what you think.

So, before I get into the problems I've identified, feel free to stop here, and reblog or ask me your problems with the aforementioned shows and movies. I'm talking writing or character problems, as we've seen in the series. I am a fan of the comics, but you can divert from that, or stick to them.

Oh, and if you say something like "Make it more queer", I am a raging bisexual enby. I will already be making it queer as fuck, and can be convinced to ship pretty much anyone, if I can get a good reasoning behind it. Minors should be shipped with only minors. That's one of my few rules, if you send anything to me. So yeah, I'm doing genderfluid Loki.

Thoughts on everything:

This is just here so that I don't get a ton of repeats. I'll go movies first, then the TV shows.

Black Widow (2021) - Honestly, this is too late of a movie. Natasha deserved this before Endgame or Infinity War came out. But release dates aside, Taskmaster needs more screentime, and a chance to show how menacing they are. Natasha also needs more time with her family, and the parents need to be fleshed out a bit more. Belova is far too smart to be tricked by the lady in the post-credit scene.

Shang-Chi And The Legend Of The Ten Rings (2021) - I don't have any major problems with this movie. The Great Protector, or the dragon, and the supernatural creature, I think he's called Dweller In Darkness, kinda felt a little blank, and the Dweller shouldn't have died, only been pushed back. And I don't like Katy that much. Trevor is much better comedic relief in my opinion.

Eternals (2021) - Oh boy, where do we start with this one? You know it's bad if I can't remember any of the main characters names besides Ikarus. And that's because I was laughing my ass off at him throwing himself into the sun. There was also the Celestial I think it was? Anyways that thing broke islands up, and then just became a massive statue, and like no one mentions it? I don't remember much else about this movie, even after having watched it like 3 times. Oh, and the Ebony Blade was shown off. I like that if they can do something fun with that.

Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021) - Dr. Strange feels a little shoe-horned in. The whole sanctum being overtaken by snow was pretty clever, but Strange being a father figure to Peter is not super well established. Could be fixed with a couple of rewrites. Or Strange and Stark being together. Peter is a dumbass, and the reason for him starting the whole plot... is so dumb. I understand, teenagers can be stupid, hell, I go to public high school, but Peter's shown he's a lot smarter than this. But I do like the crossover (Dafoe as Green Goblin my beloved) and the fact that the other Spidermen get to say goodbye in one last movie. Anyways, Ned's wizard connections need to be elaborated on as well.

Doctor Strange: Multiverse Of Madness (2022) - Alright, getting my biggest problem out of the way first. Wanda's corruption arc should have been shown. It should have been developed through the movie, and Wanda should have been with Strange and America. She can still be evil, and die after she realizes her actions, but this basically destroys the point of Wandavision. She was willing to say goodbye. Wanda has been a favorite of mine for years, and I read her comics religiously as a child. We need to see the power of the Scarlet Witch. What it did without Wanda. Her "No More Mutants" line sent chills down my spine the first time I read it. Sam Raimi directed this movie. Strange and Wanda should have had more horrific shit. And that one Strange with 3 eyes should have been the one from What If. We need horror in this. America also needs to be more fleshed out. I do love her, but we get like one scene of her being traumatized of basically growing up nowhere. Her moms get to stay though. I'm just going to ignore the last post-credit scene, because... that's setting something up I'm not sure of.

Thor: Love & Thunder (2022) - First up, Gorr has a great setup. He needed more screentime though. We need to see more of his god killing. They should rightfully be shitting their pants over this man. Thor leaving to save Sif was a good move, but that joke ruined the tension. She should have died there, proof of the god killer. Jane Foster is perfectly fine, and her arc is a lovely send-off. I would have loved some more stuff about the kids, especially Heimdall's. I don't even remember his name. He should have been shown doing something in Jane's return to Asgard, something that showed off his parentage. The meeting of the gods is a great scene, but there should have been people who spoke up, and then promptly getting thrown out, or even getting killed. Even more of a reason for Thor and crew to convince him. I think everything else is pretty good. Also Valkyrie is perfect in this movie. Bi queen. And her Loki knives are lovely.

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022) - I actually think this one just needs a couple of little tweaks. I understand why they couldn't have T'Challa show up in the spirit world, and Killmonger was great, but I still think something between the siblings would be good. Fuck, I love the funeral scene. It was a lovely sendoff to both T'Challa, and Chadwick. Namor seems a little rash though. Might just be the comics leaking through on that matter but I do like the Mayan inspirations in the movie!

Antman: Quantumania (2023) - I'm not really sure on this movie. I don't like Janet in this movie. She feels too secretive. She could have told them plenty, even lied that Kang had gone home. He'd gotten out somehow. Kang didn't seem scared enough of the others, but that might just be me thinking of that. Oh, and MODOK sucked. He shouldn't be a joke. But Darren could have done something else, because he is in there.

Guardians of The Galaxy V.3 (2023) - Perfection in every way. I'm not changing anything unless it involves getting everything I'm incorporating in. And the Christmas Special is also great.

The Marvels (2023) - Spoilers! Kamala needed more screentime, she just generally felt disconnected from the plot besides her bangle. And I also wanted a more menacing villain. That's been the problem with them recently. They don't make me think that they could actually beat them. I like everything else though. Flerkins were great as usual. I love these stupid creatures so much. That one scene was beautiful.

Now to the shows! These are going to be so much shorter.

Wandavision (2021) - I think this is good. No notes.

Loki S1 (2021) - Good, besides the Sylvie/Loki romance. They are siblings. I'm not sure if there's anything else that I really had a problem with. It's been a moment. Which is a shame. I love Loki (Also bi confirmation! I love it!)

The Falcon & Winter Soldier (2021) - I also think this is good, besides maybe having some problems with the villain. Bromance all the way.

What If...? (2021) - Also pretty good. Little self-contained story. I like the zombies.

Hawkeye (2021) - I also think this one's pretty well written. Macaroni is constantly referenced in my house. Lucky is also a pretty boy.

Moonknight (2022) - Honestly, god tier. Anyways, no one mentioned the stars literally turning in Egypt. But maybe it was just the people thinking that they were drunk as shit and seeing something.

Ms. Marvel (2022) - Second favorite being Moonknight. I also don't remember anything glaringly wrong.

She-Hulk: Attorney At Law (2022) - Besides the tone of the show being inconsistent as shit, I think this show should have dove into some of the topics it brought up more. It just seemed a little surface level. Maybe a WWDITS style mockumentary would work better.

Secret Invasion (2023) - THIS ENTIRE SHOW SUCKS ASS. THIS WHOLE THING WAS DONE SO BADLY. I am not taking anything from this show

Loki S2 (2023) - Too distracted by another season 2 coming out, so I have yet to finish. I have heard it's good though. I've seen the first episode, and it's going pretty good so far.

Well, you made it to the bottom! Yay!

...This took me an hour to write. I did get the doc set up. And got a bit of an outline set up.

#marvel #loki #wandavision #secret invasion #she hulk #hawkeye #ms marvel #moon knight #falcon and the winter soldier #the marvels #marvel mcu #mcu #writing #writeblr #long post

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therese-lokidottir · 1 year

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And like, Marvel's used writers and directors in the past who didn't have much experience (the Russos were primarily known before Captain America: The Winter Soldier for their work on Community and Happy Endings, Jon Favreau's directing credits pre-Iron Man were Made, Elf, and Zathura: A Space Adventure, James Gunn was known for horror films like Slither and Dawn of the Dead as well as writing the live-action Scooby Doo films; Ryan Coogler had only helmed Fruitvale Station and Creed before he did the Black Panther movies). But at least those writers/directors worked in genres that translated perfectly to the superhero stories (you can see in the Scooby-Doo movies some of the clever kinds of gags that Gunn uses in his more recent movies, and his horror background translates perfectly to Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 and Peacemaker; Fruitvale Station was about the kind of subject matter that is a major motivator for the villain of Black Panther, making Coogler a perfect fit; etc.)

Meanwhile, She-Hulk was helmed by people with no background in writing legal procedurals (compared to say, Daredevil: Born Again, which is using writers with some legal background). Loveness only wrote six episodes of Rick & Morty before he was picked to write Quantumania, Waldron only wrote one episode and was a producer on that before he was tapped for Loki and Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. And like the Redditor who made the screengrabbed comment pointed out, there's a certain degree of arrogance that is very off-putting about Rick & Morty writers.

I've said before is what's lacking in current MCU is the lack of sincerity. Gunn is great at balancing and embracing the ridiculousness and being sincere and treating the characters seriously. Whedon's Avengers films especially the first job balanced the snark and lampshading with serious moments and character development really well. Unfortunately a lot of imitators aren't able to pull off the balance as well, they don't know when to pull back and let a moment happen.

A big problem right now is the creators themselves don't take the material seriously. They don't care or haven't watched and don't understand how it works and why it means something to people. They don't want to be looked down on for taking this weird thing seriously so they try to be ahead of the viewers and make fun of material themselves. Isn't this dumb thing dumb? Aren't we so smart for pointing out how ridiculous this is? The don't have anything to add or try to make it fit the tone they treat everything like a parody. There is a lot of arrogance in how they think they're above the material they're making.

There is a lot that could be said and discussed about the humor in Rick&Morty. What I'll say here is that the sense humor doesn't really fit with the MCU and most important how it tells story truly does not work within the MCU. It was always a foremost a parody of science fiction. It never treated its set up or world building as strict rules but as loose guidelines that could change or be ignored for the sake of jokes or pushing the plot forward. That mindset has remained with the writers and really that has done the overall story a disservice.

#Asks #mcu salt

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dzinahk · 6 months

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'Loki': Episode 4 Cliffhanger Ending Explained by Head Writer (variety.com)

SPOILER ALERT: This story involves discussion of major plot developments in Season 2, Episode 4 of “Loki,” currently streaming on Disney+.

When Eric Martin started writing the Season 1 finale of “Loki” (along with then-head writer Michael Waldron), he already had a sense that the Marvel Studios show was going to continue for a second season.

“There were definitely rumblings of that while we were still in the writers room of Season 1,” Martin says. “It didn’t become a sure thing until we were into COVID.”

During the forced pandemic hiatus — Martin estimates that they’d filmed “about a third of Season 1” before the shutdown — Martin says that Marvel Studios executive Kevin Wright approached him about becoming the head writer for Season 2. “And we then started really getting down to business about where to take the next half of the story.”

That effort reached a serious turning point in this week’s episode, “Heart of the TVA,” in which the titular temporal loom — the mechanism that harnesses the energy of time to power the TVA and thread the Sacred Timeline — explodes under the stress of the infinitely branching multiverse; the ensuing eruption appears to engulf Loki (Tom Hiddleston) and his compatriots before the episode cuts to black.

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The cataclysm is the direct result of the decision Loki’s variant Sylvie (Sophia Di Martino) makes in the Season 1 finale to kill the TVA’s creator, He Who Remains (Jonathan Majors) — which precipitated the creation of the multiverse.

“When dictators are toppled, when systems break down, chaos ensues,” Martin says. “Problems always come up in those situations that nobody could have predicted, because the system was taking care of them, silently.”

It’s part of Martin’s overarching theme to Season 2, to examine what happens when the characters and the TVA itself are pushed to their breaking points. “Can people change? Can institutions change? What happens when that system breaks down, and you have to build a new system?” Martin says. “That’s really what we’re looking at. It all comes down to the idea of chaos versus order — which makes a lot of sense, because we’re dealing with a lot of chaos.”

Given that Loki himself is the god of mischief, this dichotomy plays right into how “Loki” the series has aimed to deconstruct one of the most popular characters in the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe.

“We’re bringing back a little bit more of that mischief from the Loki of old, but he is still fighting for something that’s bigger than himself,” Martin says. “Reinvention and discovery of self is really the overarching theme for our whole season.”

Martin discussed with Variety how he brought Season 2 of “Loki” together, his experience with the Marvel method and the mysterious rule that governed how he approached the show.

“I Want You to Be Questioning”

Easily Martin’s biggest addition to Season 2 was Ke Huy Quan as Ouroboros (aka OB), a technician who lives in the lowest depths of the TVA as the head (and, it seems, the sole employee) of the Repairs and Advances Department. The character grew out of Martin’s interest in broadening the scope of the TVA as an institution.

“I felt like in Season 1, we’re on just a couple of different levels,” he says. “We see that it is this broad expansive place. So who are the people that are working down on the lower levels?”

Martin drew inspiration for O.B. from his own relatives. “I come from a family of engineers,” he says. “That’s a very particular kind of person. Like, OB just popped into my head as somebody like my uncles. They love the technical aspects of their work and they’re solely focused on that when they’re doing it. At the TVA, nobody’s aging; time is just kind of standing still. Well, what if there’s somebody that’s been down there just for a couple hundred years doing all of this stuff and he’s hunky dory because he loves what he’s doing? He’s surrounded by all his gadgets. That’s what he loves.”

While OB is responsible for designing the vast majority of the TVA’s gadgetry, the temporal loom was supposedly invented and built by He Who Remains — a very nerdy sentence that provokes an even nerdier question: What was the timeline like before the temporal loom?

“I want you to be questioning,” Martin says. “The loom is one of those things that’s like, ‘How’d that work before? How was all of this setup prior?’ Trying to wrap your head around that can be a bit of a headache. But I think what you can wrap your head around is, well, What can we trust about what He Who Remains said and what can’t we? I don’t think we know, right? We’re figuring all of that out now.”

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annachum · 1 year

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I've been seeing A LOT of Sigyn fan works, and the #JusticeforSigyn trend on social media. I'm a Sigyn fan and I stand by Justice for Sigyn too.

However.....I actually have a feeling that Sigyn exists in the MCU THE WHOLE TIME, except she is CURRENTLY offscreen ( still manifesting for her official debut in MCU, possibly in Loki S2 )

Like, imagine her and Loki being childhood friends to lovers ( with a crazy love story ). They attend Yggadrsil Hall of Learning together ( alongside with Thor, the Warriors 3, Sif, Brunnhilde and Heimdall. Amora, Lorelei and Theoric go to school there too and they are part of a gang of mean kids, and Amora and Lorelei fled to Nornheim to learn dark magic from Queen Karnilla of Nornheim in their high school years ).

And as Loki and Sigyn grew, they got together sometime before Thor 1

Imagine her, an Aesir Light Elf hybrid from Alfheim with Aurora Manipulation powers, and a Valkyrie veteran who is one of the very few that survived the Massacre of Valkyrie. And she at first is unwilling to go back to Alfheim and Asgard because HER MOTHER DIED THERE TOO.

Yet she exhaustedly agreed, cuz those who survived inspired her to realize that there is still hope around the horizon. And she soon became a bodyguard/lady in waiting to Frigga and a diplomat in Alfheim Embassy in Nine Realms Intercosmic Embassy.

Imagine her being Loki's consort lover in Thor 1 during Loki's 1st rule of Asgard, yet she began to feel torn between her love for Loki and her understandable concern of Loki slowly turning to dark side. And then she mourns for Loki's 1st fake death.

Imagine her, after coming back from multiple intercosmic diplomatic business trips, and hearing all about Loki causing havoc in Earth all to try to offer her a throne ' worthy of Sigyn ', she found herself joining the Asgardian fleets to defend Asgard from the Dark Elves. And on top of that, even as she rightfully calls out Loki's crap, she defends him through thick and thin and CANNOT bear him to be possibly executed. AND THEN Theoric ( an abhorrent admirer WHO TURNS OUT TO BE A SPY WORKING FOR THE DARK ELVES ) TRIES to woo her ( actually tryna glean some spy info from her ) yet Sigyn spurred his advances and still remained loyal to Loki.

And then she also mourns for Frigga's death, gave Thor and Loki magical first aid kits for their big escape...and manages to tell her Nine Realms cohorts that Theoric is a double crossing spy. Well that ( and upon hearing Theoric is bothering Sigyn ) is more than enough to have Loki pull strings to have Theoric killed in battlefield.

Imagine her, thinking that Loki died ( again ), reunited with Loki in secret and became a bodyguard of Loki/Odin and a Chief diplomat in the Alfheimr embassy in the Nine Realms Intercosmic Embassy, and eventually Loki and Sigyn married in secret

Imagine Sigyn, during Ragnarok, joining the Light Elfs to battle against Hela's forces while also help run a refuge behind the waterfalls in Hummingbird Bay ( where the Sea Elves dwell in Alfhem in coral abodes ). And she broke down witnessing her healer dad died trying to save her life.....

And all the while, EVERYONE else found out her and Loki's initially secret marriage, and also Sigyn and Loki kept in touch via crystal ball communications and magical notes while they had their crazy adventures.

Imagine Sigyn managing to escape the Massacre of the Airship caused by Thanos to an alternate timeline where Alfheim is ruled by a council of Valkyrie veterans and military leaders ( via Sylvie unleashing the Multiverse via Stabbing Kang )

And imagine Sigyn, who soon heard an Alt Loki was out there somewhere, began a time hopping journey to find Loki when she was abducted by the TVA yet manages to escape and eventually reunite with Loki, and the 2 commence a coupe against the TVA together ( this is what I would LOVE to see happen in Loki S2 )

GIVE LOKI HIS BRIDE BACK

#loki #sigyn #loki x sigyn #OMG WHAT IF SIGYN ACTUALLY EXISTS IN MCU THE WHOLE TIME #AND FOR NOW SHE IS OFFSCREEN OR SMTH #chaos and constancy #mischief and fidelity #mcu fanfic #theories and speculations

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sergeant-angels-trashcan · 3 years

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So like. Time fugitive young avengers

TRYING to find the only time traveler they know and the one who prolly sorta likes them???

So like eli and Billy and teddy appear during Sylvie and Loki's sword fight to yoink Kang

Which is the real reason he disappears

Kang legit crying because??? His friends??? Who he had to keep pruning from the timeline???

ABOUT THAT.

So none of them are the same ages because it's funny

I want Billy and teddy to be a middle aged married couple who are just SO DONE and Kate's like I was literally JUST at your wedding, WHY DOES THIS SHIT KEEP HAPPENING TO ME AT WEDDINGS????

Kate refers to kang as "my good bitch" and nothing else

They have nate which allows them to grab loki. The post saakar killed by thanos but not quite Loki

Also. This is a verse where when loki fell off the bifrost he got younger and then wound up with the YA. Endverse!kid!loki is a variant of that time

Kang also cries when he sees Cassie

They expect kang to be this hardass and really hes just SO TIRED, YOU GUYS, and he's so glad to have help

Which is not what they were expecting

Tommy keeps holding up rope all "so no tying him to a chair?"

He gets berated for trying to bring bondage into everything

thATS NOT WHAT THIS IS

At some point they're like you let steve do WHAT. the home of phobia.

Also theres a variant peggy that shows up. Kate and America keep ooo.ooo ing at her

The gay vibes are impeccable

Nate calls Kate "my solid ho"

I kind if want Kate to be the "youngest". Like she's the first one they nabbed but they got her earlier in her timeline than the rest of the team. Shes still like mid late 20s and everyone is weeping emoji at her shes such a BABY and Kate growling no goddamnit I'm a small business owner I pay taxes I am NOT baby

But ONLY if it's funny if Kate being the youngest for once isn't funny then no go hoes

Kate, Nate, and Loki doing obnoxious sprawling all over each other as the youngest oldests

Why is Kang unhinged? That is why. "The floor is lava and the only safe place is UR LAP"

Also have I mentioned agent mobius is noh? I have? Great. Because he is.

And that Casey is Jonas?

Awesome.

So that vibe the gotg had in their first movie..."them?" and "those dipshits?" that's the vibe of this young avengers. With the bonus that they were once competent and organized etc etc but not with these versions of each other

At some point "shhh come on this is Kate's funeral be quiet."

"Yeah don't turn it into a roast this time."

"Shut up ur dead u dont get a say."

but also like. maybe.

so when the timeline exploded all of those timelines existed fully at that moment

which is how they can pluck people at different ages etc.

so Nate Knows about the Young Avengers and a Good Nate comes and Grabs Loki, and they “go to the leader of the young avengers”

which to nate either means another him, or maybe jonas, or eli?

and it’s KATE. who he, like, sort of knows? but why is she the one they got taken to--

“I’m the leader of the young avengers, that’s why, jerk. Also hi Loki.”

“I’m sorry who are you?”

Kate is OFFEND.

Nate is just confused as to HOW. She wasn’t even??? On the roster???

“Yeah well i guess you’re just lucky.”

the fact that loki gets the team together the second time but he doesn’t even know her is irritating, meanwhile loki is making fun of “young avengers” what was there a BABY THOR, a MINI HULK

Nate has to implement a “no stabby no shooty” rule after he’s done laughing

Loki is CONSTANTLY unnerved by how much Kate seems to know about him

some things he didn’t even know about himself? like a breakfast obsession???

Kate being with them helps the other grabs go easier

at some point they’re talking about the TVA and they have pictures for some reason.

“wait wait go back”

“yeah ok we need to grab those two”

she’s only KIND of offended when Noh has no idea who she is but seems to have a crush on Loki. Rude, but ok.

Jonas is all “took you long enough, hang on let me grab some infinity stones”

“fucking WHAT.”

for some reason they wind up at the End, surrounded by Lokis.

and then it’s an argument about which Loki is better for the team. Which variant!loki is VERY offended by

this is just a group of people who MUST offend one another

Kate is. um. VERY adamant about the Loki she wants.

“My vote is for the lizard.”

cue kid!loki peering from behind something: “Kate?”

“LOKI??”

“CHCANGED MY MIND We’re taking the Kid.”

“no, we’re not, I vote for me” variant!loki says this and gets blasted by vote loki loki

Kate nixes vote loki loki because she ALREADY DEALT WITH THAT. vote loki loki is trying SO HARD. c’mon kate. i know you LOVED trolling me on twitter. pick me!

“No, we’re taking the Kid.”

Nate tries to argue this point.

“We’re. Taking. The. KID.”

no one agrees with her

“Saying it slower doesn’t make it a reason.”

“Oh you want reasons? Reason one: i know this lil shit.” a secret handshake of sorts ensues.

“Reason two: I can manhandle him” Loki gets tossed over her shoulder. he is very unimpressed

(”he is easier to punt that way,” America points out. She currently has another Loki in a headlock.)

“Reason three: i know how he lies.”

“Reason four: we’re bros.”

These reasons impress NO ONE.

but it is how they wind up with a gaggle of lokis.

Kate and Kid!Loki are very mean to each other. i just want to point that out. but like a dipshit mean sibling energy. they make fun of each other’s ages all the time.

the vibe of the young avengers is “we WILL save the multiverse but we’re going to be as chaotic as possible while doing it”

#loki #loki show #kate bishop #hawkeye #young avengers #nate richards #kang the conqueror #kid!loki #billy kaplan #teddy altman #noh varr #the team constantly roasting nate for his history choices

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darwindrawz · 3 years

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I’m sorry I’ve been gone I had things to do but I’m back baby and I have ANOTHER LOKI THEORY! YAYYY

So. 👏 (spoilers for episode 5)

I was watching episode 5 and I thought “huh. I wonder what happened to Casey? We haven’t seen him in a while.”

THEN IT HIT ME.

The last time we saw Casey (I think) was when Mobius and Loki were discussing where “the variant” might be hiding while sitting next to him in the cafeteria. So why hasn’t Casey been around since?

Well. Ever since the Timekeepers were proven to be all fake, there’s obviously the question: who the heck is running the TVA? Who’s the main villain of this story? You’re not gonna believe me but...

Guys. I think it’s Casey.

Here’s my evidence:

Exhibit A: The drawer full of infinity stones in Casey’s office area.

In this scene, Casey explains to Loki that they receive a lot of duplicate infinity stones in the TVA, due to the infinite branched timelines they prune. So you’re telling me, out of all the people that work in the TVA, Casey was chosen to keep these infinity stones? Instead of someone like Judge Renslayer who has WAY more authority and seems to actually keep quite a few trophies from different timelines herself? As far as I can tell, Casey has no real power in the TVA. So why does he get to keep them?

Exhibit B: the mural in Ravonna Renslayer’s courtroom.

Here are multiple shots of the detailed mural depicting TVA agents located in Judge Renslayer’s courtroom. See anyone familiar? Yeah, me too. That guy in the dead center in front of everyone else and directly under the TVA logo looks a hell of a lot like Casey, doesn’t he? Why would they create such a detailed mural, and paint the main subject as someone so clearly unimportant and bland? Unless the subject isn’t unimportant at all, and is in fact EXTREMELY important to the TVA...

Before I continue: where am I going with this?

So in the comics, for those who haven’t read them, the TVA’s main enemy is an antagonistic, extra dimensional, cosmic being named “Kang the Conqueror”.

Kang has a nasty habit of sticking his nose in the TVA’s business, trying to run time by himself the way HE sees fit. This includes creating alternate realities, destroying timelines, and generally causing chaos throughout the multiverse. He even built a city made up of “trophies” he collects from the timelines he’s conquered called “Cronopolis”.

I have a theory that this city built on the edge of “Limbo”, an area that seems an awful lot like what Ravonna was describing is at the end of time, is the same as the timeless wasteland the Loki variants and the rest of the stuff the TVA pruned are dumped in.

Back to Kang, he is what’s called a “nexus being”, which means a being that isn’t tied to any one reality or timeline. He exists outside the parameters of time and space, meaning he is free to go anywhere, anytime he wants. Other examples of nexus beings in the comics and MCU include Wanda Maximoff, Thanos, the Living Tribunal, and sometimes Doctor Strange.

So wouldn’t it make sense, in a show drawing a lot of material from the comics and one that deals with the concept of multiversial theory and time, for the main antagonist to be a being that wants to control everything the show explores?

Now, how does Casey, a TVA guy with no real plot significance past showing Loki the infinity stones, fit into this theory that the villain in Loki is Kang?

Actually, he fits right in with the “man behind the curtain” theory that has been talked about so much throughout episodes 4 and 5. How did the “wizard” rule his city and maintain the illusion of being so powerful?

FROM INSIDE THE CITY OF OZ ITSELF.

The “Timekeepers” were the same concept as the giant scary floating head that Dorothy and her squad spoke to when they first came to see the wizard. A figurehead controlled by a smaller, more inconspicuous man behind a curtain that invokes fear that the “wizard” himself might not otherwise be able to generate.

“Casey” is Kang’s “curtain”. A disguise that allows him to control the TVA from the inside without being detected.

To come back to what I said earlier about Casey’s (or Kang’s) current whereabouts, obviously if he is the villain he’s not gonna hang around in the TVA after learning Loki and Mobius are as close to compromising the truth behind the TVA as anyone’s ever come. I’m guessing he’s gone to wherever it is he truly calls home. Which, if the “Casey is Kang” theory is correct, means Kang/Casey is currently residing at the end of time itself where he resides in the comics, waiting for Loki and Sylvie to find him. What will happen when they do, I don’t know. If I know Marvel at all, probably an epic battle of some sort.

Oh yeah. And remember how “Agnes” from Wandavision was actually a play on the witch Agatha Harkness that used parts of both her names to create a new name?

Guess what.

CASEY= K. C.

KANG. the CONQUEROR.

ITS HIS FREAKING INITIALS GUYS WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY

#darwin said something #comfort characters #marvel #loki #kang the conqueror #loki series #loki disney+#loki spoilers #loki fan theories #marvel fan theories #I hope this makes as much sense as it did in my head #it probably doesn’t #tw bold text #tw italics #tw colored text #tw caps

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wolvesandpetals · 3 years

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Loki x Sylvie Post-Finale Fanfiction (Angst, Rated Teen) Part 2 of 2

Part 1 is here:

She never knew it would hurt this much when the person she loves is right in front of her, but she can't reach out and touch him; when she is still her, he is still him, but everything else has changed, like an invisible lever in an old theatre changing the scenery in the background, bringing them both to the part of the play where they are hopelessly lost.

[[MORE]]

All it took was one single moment, one single decision, and everything feels irrevocably broken now. It makes her contemplate on the true nature of relationships, how fragile they are, and how easy it is to shatter them- and her.

The smoke is slowly clearing, and all that seems to be left is a man who is doing his best to keep his distance from her, physically and emotionally.

She can tell from the way he stands with his arms crossed, or his fists clenced when his hands are by his side, that he really doesn't want to hold her hand. How can something so simple as the touch of his fingers be so vital to her existence that it feels like something has been ripped out from inside her?

She wants to reach out and touch him, but she is scared that if he pulls away outright, any hope of reconciliation that she still has left will shatter into pieces.

And she really needs this hope. It's the only thing she still has left. It's the only thing that keeps her going.

---

He looks like a man with a mission.

They spent quite a long time together, running from the TVA, running towards the citadel at the end of time, hoping to achieve their goal of bringing down the one behind the curtains.

But that was her mission, and he was there for her. She was the one behind the wheels, he was the one keeping the sails afloat.

Now it's different. Now he has a defined goal, a glorious purpose.

She's seeing him in a whole new light now, and not just because he has switched to Asgardian leather and metal armors.

As far as she is concerned, she is better off doing it all alone. One woman army, nobody to get in her way, nobody to screw up her plans. Nobody to blame her if it all goes to shit.

Or so it was, until two months ago, when Mobius decided to enlist her help in fixing the multiversal madness.

She has never really worked with people before, and it's weird, to say the least. She never considered herself a team player, but she is finding herself hating the idea less and less lately.

And she swears it has nothing to do with him. Not the fact that they are working together, and seeing his face first thing in the morning brings her a sense of calm that she quite can't explain. Or the fact that their rooms are next to each other and it makes her feel secure enough to finally get some rest at nights. Or that this whole arrangement has kept them on talking terms, when they had gone their own separate ways otherwise.

Nothing to do with that at all.

---

Humans are stupid, and the biggest evidence of this is how they decided that two extremely powerful Gods skilled at magic, enchantment, and defeating an evil extra dimensional cloud that swallows everything it touches, should be delegated to the role of research. "You're clever. You're good at reading people. You can put yourselves in the shoes of the bad guys, no offense", they said, but really, what they meant was, "We can't trust you out in the field much." She knows it, he knows it. She just doesn't know why he's complying.

That's how they find themselves researching every single day.

She likes to think he's not the only reason why she's studying in the library instead of in the comfort of her room, but that'd be a lie.

At first, he chooses to sit at a separate table. But she keeps going over to his to "get his opinion" on something in the file she's reading, and finally, he gives in. Their current arrangement consists of him sitting in the chair in front of her, to the left, prim and proper, while she hoists her feet up on the table.

He falls asleep on the desk one night, face smacked against a file, the tiniest bit of drool forming at the corner of his mouth. It would be a hilarious sight, if her heart wasn't feeling what she can only describe as longing.

They should probably talk about it, like mature adults, but neither of them know how to do that.

All she can do right now is gather the courage to run her fingers through his hair. The touch is hesitant at first, as if one wrong move would make him wake up and push her back to square one. Slowly, she relaxes, letting her fingers dance on his scalp.

He stirs in his sleep. "Please Sif. I'm sorry. Don't cut off my glorious locks, please."

Now this is a story she must hear when things are better.

If things are better.

---

Doctor Strange joins them very briefly, very rarely, but the tension between him and Loki is hard to miss. It's worse than the current situation with her, and that's saying something.

"You don't really like Stephen, do you?"

Something inside him seems to shift, but he masks it behind a non-chalant look immediately and just arches an eyebrow at her. "He's Stephen now, is he?"

"Well, that is his name." She shrugs. "What do you call him?"

"Strange", he spits the word out with an amount of irritation that indicates there definitely is a story there. "That is his name", he mimics.

She can't help the smirk that spreads across her lips. "What did he do to you?"

"Nothing", he lies, ignoring the horrifying flashbacks of thirty minutes of endless falling. Not a single soul must ever know a mere human got the best of him. "What can he do to me? I'm a God among those mortals. He just irks me because he is so pompous, and arrogant, and he ceaselessly uses magic to toy with others."

She pretends to think deeply. "Now where have I seen that before?"

He scoffs. "You mock me, but I am nothing like him. For one, I am not rude."

"He seems fine to me", she declares decisively.

It's the first time in months that he gives her a cheeky grin. "That's because you're rude too."

---

They are still just containing the threats to their world, instead of finding a way to fortify the barriers between worlds and stop the threats from coming.

"Shouldn't we have a plan to seal off the other worlds from ours?" She asks him one day.

"They are working on it." He tells her, and then with a look of worry, adds, "I hope."

There are debates on what to do at the Avengers tower and at the TVA. Nobody seems to agree on what the best course of action is, but everyone seems to be following the general instructions of Doctor Strange.

During one such meeting, a Minuteman makes the mistake of voicing out loud how she wondered if things would be better if they were running according to their old boss's plans.

Sylvie feels the guilt wash over her once more.

"No", Loki tells them all firmly. The determination in his voice takes her completely by surprise. "Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, makes no difference. The degree is arbitrary. The definition’s blurred." She catches him steal a glance at her direction. "We couldn't have left a dictator in charge just because it's convenient. Listen, I'm the bad guy. I've done horrible, unspeakable things. I thought humans needed to be ruled. I wanted to rule. But even I know that it's not right to take away a person's life completely. These are innocent people. You are innocent people. You have families back home, parents, children", a pause and a softening of his features, "-love. A whole past, a whole future. That man had no right to take it away from you."

His powers of persuasion are foreign to her, and it's mesmerizing to watch. Her enchantments cannot hold a candle to how he is able to just talk people into doing what he wants, thinking what he thinks, seeing what he sees.

"He who remains had a plan. One, singular plan, from one, singular man." There is absolute conviction in his voice. "It's not the only way. We'll find another way. A better way."

She has never known what it is like to have someone see you for who you are- broken and flawed, and defend you- even your well-intentioned actions that yielded different results than what you expected and hurt them in the process. She suspects it has been the same for him, a lifetime of not having anyone have his back.

The warm feeling inside her is brand new. What is the name of this? Comfort? Relief?

Happiness?

---

This will be their first time out in the field in a long time, and she feels a little sick to the stomach.

He notices. "Are you alright?"

The concern in his voice tugs at her heartstrings. She nods. She has faced way worse, she shouldn't be so nervous about this, but she is. "I've never done this before."

"We can always just kill him and blame it on the Chitauris", he suggests with a serious face.

"I heard that", Peter yells from the other room, where he is doing whatever it is that teenagers do to prepare for battle.

She shakes her head in disbelief. "I can't believe we're babysitting."

"I've done this before", he assures her, and it surprises her to picture him being entrusted with such a serious task. "The trick is to conjure up illusions that keep them distracted enough to not cry."

She laughs. "You're thinking of infants. This one is a little older."

"I'm over a thousand years old, Sylvie. They're all infants to me."

Peter joins them, mask covering his face so that he doesn't reveal his identity. "So what do I call you? Loki and Loki? That's confusing. How about Loki and Lady Loki? Or is that offensive? I'm not suggesting women are inferior, because they're absolutely not..."

"Does he come with an off switch?" She whispers in horror as Peter rambles on.

Loki grins. With one wave of his hand and a flash of green, Peter's own webbing shoots out and seals his mouth shut.

---

Things are fine but not fine at the same time. He's right there beside her, but not there at all. They have their banters, they have their stolen glances, but they haven't had a meaningful conversation since that first day when she got back. She's been putting it off for a long time, but she knows they really do need to have the talk.

She corners him in his room one evening while he's tinkering with a temporal collar. She takes a seat in the chair next to his bed and rests her hand on the table, leaning her head against her palm, before switching position and crossing her arms and legs. Everything about her posture screams uneasiness. If he notices- he probably does- he doesn't say anything.

"You defended me that day."

He briefly looks up from the task at hand and gives her a soft smile. "Of course."

She blinks. "I don't understand." Her hands involuntary rise up to rub her temples. "If you can justify my actions to them, then how can you still be mad at me?"

"I'm not mad at you", he says without missing a beat.

"Rubbish", her words come out angrier than she intended. This frustration is the result of the months of status quo they have had. She has to know now, one way or the other. "You're distant. You're guarded", she accuses. Then her voice breaks, as she feels a part of her break all over again with her next words. "You don't hold my hand. Why? Tell me."

He abandons the collar and focuses his full attention on her. Staring straight into her eyes, he answers her. "You know why."

"I wouldn't be asking if I did. Look, if it's because I chose the mission over you-"

"-Of course it's not that." He says decisively. Then a sad smile clouds his face. It's the same look he had when she accused him of conning her to gain the throne. "Do you think I'm the type of man who would want a woman to abandon her life-long ambitions just because she has met someone?"

She knows he isn't. But it still doesn't answer why he is so cross with her. "What is it then?"

He pauses for a moment, trying to decide whether he wants to bare his soul out to her once more or not. There are two ways he can go from here- choose to not let her in again and save himself from the hurt, or trust her again and open himself up to potential pain.

Who is he kidding? Pushing her away- keeping her away- doesn't hurt any less.

There were a thousand things that had to go wrong to bring two Lokis from two universes together. A connection like that, it doesn't just happen.

And it doesn't just go away. The pain is constant, it's a part of him, pounding like a second heart every second he has to stop himself from reaching out for her hand.

This has to come to an end.

He takes in a deep breath, bracing himself. "You didn't have to send me away, Sylvie. I wanted to stop you from making the same mistakes I did. But in the end, I didn't care what you chose. I just wanted us to do it together."

She never even imagined this could be the reason for his hurt. All these months spent thinking he hates her for her choices, and now it turns out he is hurt simply because she chose to do it alone? "I'm sorry." She says sincerely. "I just wanted you to be safe."

"And I just wanted to be there with you till the end." He confesses. His eyes shimmer with the emotions he has kept bottled in for so long. "You go, I go."

She doesn't know what to say to that. She has never been good at articulating her feelings. Tears stream down her cheeks at the realisation that even after everything, he is still there for her.

She didn't cry even back at Lamentis when they thought they were going to die. She doesn't let anyone see her cry when she is sad or scared. That's all she has known her whole life. She's used to it by now.

This is new. These are tears of relief. Comfort.

Happiness.

Tentatively, she crosses over to the bed and sits by his side.

It's quiet for a few minutes. But unlike the months of tension so thick she could cut it into splices with her daggers, this is comfortable silence. The kind they had before it all went wrong.

"Did you even miss me?" He whispers.

"What kind of silly question is that? Of course I did." Her shaking hands grab his, and oh how she missed this.

He intertwines their fingers. His eyes draw closed. Bliss. That's the only word for this feeling.

He opens his eyes again and studies her. She's staring back at him, teary-eyed, but with a hopeful smile. "Really? Because you have a really unique way of showing it. You didn't even come looking for me."

"I didn't know how to face you", she tells him honestly. No tricks, no enchantment, no treachery. Not with him. "I didn't know if you even wanted to see me." Her voice grows quieter, dropping to a timbre that perfectly encapsulates her deepest fear. "I thought you hated me."

"Hate you?" He is shocked that she thinks that is even possible, specially after seeing him these last few months. "Sylvie, I'm working with the Avengers. The Avengers. Do you know how much I hate them? They are my nemesis. They're self-righteous, condescending, and so completely dull. Every second with them makes me want to rip their hearts out. Why do you think I'm here with them?"

She thinks she knows. But she needs to hear it anyway.

"It's because of you." He lays it all out on the table. All cards on deck, win or lose. "You've been running away. I have been the one who has been here, trying to hold down the fort, working to fix everything. Because that is what one does when one loves-"

Shit. The word slips out before he realises it.

Their eyes go wide in unison.

"Sylvie, I-"

"-Don't you dare take it back now." She warns him. "I-" She doesn't know how to say it either. They make such a great pair, both equally daft at saying how they feel, like they are teenagers, not Gods who have lived for centuries. "I've been running because I didn't think I could bear the burden of knowing I found you and then I lost you. I don't want to lose you. Not now, not ever."

He kisses the back of her hand, before letting it go. He cups her face, gently caressing her cheeks with his thumbs. "I don't want to lose you either."

She leans in closer, until their foreheads touch. She can feel his breath on her face, warm and soft. That is exactly how she feels inside. "You won't", she promises. "You go, I go."

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(Quote on Lesser Evil from The Witcher. Thanks for reading!!)

#fanfiction #fanfic #loki #loki disney+#loki x sylvie #sylki #sylvie laufeydottir #sylvie x loki #pro sylki

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the-cocky-bitch · 3 years

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So, Loki is turning out to be a bit of an opposite of what I was expecting. I was expecting chaos and mischief and fun time-travel shenanigans. I mean it might still turn into that, but the whole setting idea is very much not what I was expecting.

I hate everything about the TVA. I hate that there is only one “Sacred Timeline”, I hate that everything is pre-determined, I hate that when anyone deviates from the dictated time-flow, they get captured, collared, processed though a beaurocratic line, like a bit of paperwork, I hate that they are then immediately sentenced to death/reset/pruned. I hate the idea of everything that’s happened, being pre-determined. I especially hate the idea that what people choose to do, choose to be, choose to become, doesn’t really matter and never did. That people never really had a choice, because if they chose something else, they would be removed from the timeline, and reset to someone/something’s pre-dictated order, and then put into a path that would make them “choose” the only option some high up beings allow for them.

I hate the idea of these people knowing every single thing about a person and showing only boredom and disdain for every event that shaped them into who they are, dismissing their life as anything that could be noteworthy in any way. I hate the idea of people using every single thing in a person’s life to manipulate them into a vulnerable position where they can get what they want from that person.

Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy Loki as a fun, chaotic villain, but I’m not a Loki-apologist, so this isn’t coming from a place of “my poor baby, you have done nothing wrong ever, and do not deserve this, everyone is being so mean to you”. But everything I’ve seen from the TVA sets me on edge. The only way I can see for me to enjoy this series, is if current Loki becomes the person who disrupts the “Sacred Timeline”, this other Loki, and burns the whole system down, and allows chaos and freedom and choice to be available again. It would also be pretty ironic if he started off with proclaiming to want to rule everything and deriding freedom as something that makes the little people feel only guilt and shame, to someone who wants freedom and choice, someone who leads to the multiverse being free of the constraints of the Timekeepers. I hope their actions to him at the beginning, choosing to show him his life and all that jazz, leads to a paradox where they cause him to become what they’re trying to prevent - someone drastically and irreversibly altering the timeline.

If the TVA’s absolute control is not destroyed, it would make everything that happens in the MCU feel utterly pointless, because it would be pre-determined. Someone else wrote the story, and the characters would feel even more 2-dimensional, just puppets going through the motions. I mean, the MCU has had a lot of issues in the last few years, after they moved from placing importance on the characterization to the importance of shiny battle scenes and horrible plot-twists and world-building, but this would finally kill it for me.

I also don’t know how to feel yet about the TVA internal set-up. Again, I would have to see where they take it, but unless they turn everything upside down or burn it down, I wouldn’t be very comfortable with it either. The heavy-handed hunters, the swift trial with no proper defence and brutal final judgement feels, the treatment of prisoners as an object, feels a bit insensitive with what has been going on.

#loki #loki s01e01 #loki s01e01 spoilers #marvel #loki spoilers

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clock-work-crow · 3 years

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So the thing I love and find sad about the No Way Home trailer is that for months people have been assuming that Dr. Strange would be the annoyed dad cleaning up after Wanda, Loki, and Peter after they broke the Multiverse. Turns out, he's just as responsible, and at least from my read of the trailer, he may have the worst reason of all of them, because I got an "I will do it because it's hard and I'm going to show off, and the rules don't apply to me," vibe.

Granted, that interpretation may not hold up when we have the full context of the movie around it, but still, he's clearly part of the multiverse problem.

So here's the sad part...

Why did so many people assume Dr. Strange was the responsible adult? Probably because he's a distinguished-looking white male. Like literally, that's his only qualification. Did you guys watch his movie? This is a man who spent the first 30 years of his life making terrible life choices. Was he a brilliant doctor, sure. Did he probably get away with a lot of stuff because he was a white male? Yeah, I'm pretty sure he did.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the character is evil; I like Dr. Strange, but I do not trust this man for one moment. He hasn't even been Sorcerer Supreme for that long in the MCU. Basically, he sped read a lot of books, and I believe they said he had a photographic memory, so he may remember it all, but did he ever stop and think about what he read? Did he understand it?

And sure, maybe I'm more skeptical than most because I'm an engineer, so I'm used to being around very smart people who don't always have life skills. (I don't want to make it sound like all engineers are that way. I actually love the people at my current job. But there were other jobs in my past. . . )

Okay, Stephen Strange rant over. Honestly, I really look forward to seeing him in No Way Home. I just feel like it can’t be emphasized enough, don’t trust someone just because they are a white man. Trust someone because they have shown you they can make good choices.

#no way home #spiderman trailer #dr strange #dr strange meta

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paragonrobits · 3 years

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headcanons for ways i’d like to depict the Norse Gods in Marvel content:

Odin: people from Earth have a habit of referring to him as Gandalf, once he understands the reference he’s highly amused by the reference. He lives up to his reputation as the original berserker, with emphasis on the warrior ideal of being bloodthirsty, fierce in battle, noble to one’s enemies (in a vicious sort of way) and boasting truthfully about what you’re gonna do. (The worthiness enchantment on Mjolnir is explicitly based on his OWN definitions of warrior worthiness, for example. He doesn’t mind people exploiting loopholes in it; even if it works against his purposes, he is pleased by cleverness.) That said, while he definitely harkens towards the noblilty and kingship, he doesn’t approve of the actual motifs of king of the gods; to many, he comes off as rather more humble than, say, Zeus, and he still enjoys wandering around the multiverse in mundane guise, to learn secrets. He’s also not that powerful here, and Thor is signfiicantly stronger than him. He’s not the Allfather because he is the strongest or the wisest or the most magically powerful; he is Allfather because he has ALL those attributes, and is willing to do what must be done.

Frigga: Her actual name is Freya. As per some current debates on mythical divergence, its one goddess who has had various names through the ages. She’s very much a warrior goddess, and quite proud of it. She has a VERY extensive portfolio; love, war, beauty, magic and wisdom... it just goes on, and its testament to her power. She has a more elemental basis than Odin, which can be attributed to her Vanir heritage, and it tends to make her come off as more spooky than her husband, Odin. Her depiction in the PS4 god of war game is a good starting point towards her general look here.

Thor: The son of Odin and a giantess that may be the cosmic embodiment of the Earth, Thor is NOT Odin’s preferred pick for a successor, and Thor doesn’t particularly want that, though he might have at one point. The most humble of the Aesir in terms of his personal goals in life, Thor is the strongest there is in Asgard and beyond, and he brings the rain, his swings summons the storm, and its for two purposes: farming (that is, bringing life in various ways) and fighting evil on behalf of others. He thus gets annoyed when people say he is a god of war. He’s originally a redhead, though when he was banished to Earth, he was born into the body that matches his typical depiction in Marvel. He’s honestly a bit of a goofball, belied by his limitless power. He does suffer from an unspecified condition that makes him suffer terrible mood swings.

Loki: His past is honestly a bit of a mess and that’s the way he likes it. His characterization as Thor’s brother is intact, but this steers towards the mythical take of them being blood brothers, not adopted brothers in a conventional sense; he is ALSO Odin’s blood brother too, and refers to himself as Odin’s junior partner in schemes and plots. He’s hit especially hard by the gods being suspectible to mortal belief changing over time, and this has contributed to his turn to villainy; mortals thought him a villain and he became one, though recently he’s actively trying to deal with this. This should be played as a parallel to Odin’s own obsession with Ragnarok and fate itself. He’s VERY impetuous, prone to causing trouble for its own sake, and oblivious to the consequences. (If his father, Faubauti, is to come up, he will be played as a very obvious analogue to Kratos from God of War.)

Tyr: He is Odin’s actual preferred pick as his successor, and he’s a bit of a wunderchild in Asgard. Noble, fierce in battle, mighty enough to win wars and wise enough to work to avoid conflict, he is an ideal king. He’s a little too noble for his own good, having given up his hand as an acceptable sacrifice to bind the Fenris Wolf, which he regards as a betrayal of a friend. Thor has actually come to be much more like him in recent times.

Baldur: He’s honestly a bit of a loopy, spacey guy. He’s a himbo; there, I said it. Baldur’s a borderline amiable ditz who mostly does his own thing and wanders off to do just that. He’s invulnerable to pretty much everything except things made of mistletoe, and he is vaguely aware that he’s doomed to die eventually. He doesn’t SEEM to mind. Ultimately he’s a nice guy, and its likely that he acts the way he does because he feels pleasing everyone with amusements is the best way to make them happy.

Jormagundr and Fenris: Grouped together, and more sympathetic than you’d expect, but they ARE apocalyptic beasts who will end the world, and they know it. They’re rather bitter at the Aesir’s treatment of them, and Loki’s failure to protect them; Jormagundr in particular is more mellow and patient, having developed a rivalry with his uncle Thor over the ages, while Fenris stews in bitterness over the treachery inflicted on them. That said, Thor has lately thought that winning them over is not too late, and is taking strides to make amends with his betrayed, outcast nephews. Once he was eager to face the fearsome serpent to his own death; now it seems so senseless to him.

Hel: She goes to play card games with Anubus and Hades, and they all complain a lot about being misunderstood by Western mortals. She’s fairly mellow and patient, if EXTREMELY stern and so dedicated towards her own understanding of rules that it’s frankly a little frustrating.

#marvel #ideas #thor marvel

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notallthosewho-wanderarelost · 3 years

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Real quick scattering of thoughts on Loki 1x02 and x03 before I watch the newest episode. I watched them pretty much at the same time so it’s a two-for-one post. Here be spoilers for episode 3! On mobile so no cut again, sorry.

Spoilers ahead. You’ve been warned.

Okay. In no particular order but attempting to start with ep 2 first:

Loki trying to get info on the Timekeepers and the TVA in ep 2 and being blocked by the most bored archive librarian ever was hilarious. The whole sequence of him trying to get her attention only for her to completely ignore him until he rang the bell was creepy but so funny.

Loki’s reaction to getting the details on Ragnarok made me so sad. :( Same, Loki. SAME. I’m also still gutted Asgard was destroyed and I refuse to even watch the movie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But him going to look at that in the first place made me wonder if maybe in the back of his mind Loki’s coming up with a plan to save Asgard? (Or at least, one version of Asgard in the multiverse.) I would love that. I want Asgard back in general and was hoping for Thor 4, but having Loki be the one to save Asgard would be SO fitting. He may be adopted but he’s still an Asgardian at heart, truly. Having Loki be the one to save Asgard would be a great way to show him finally acknowledging that and have all the Asgardians acknowledge it too.

We have an official population for MCU Asgard! 9719 people. That fits. It’s about twice the size of a pretty small suburban town. Asgard is SMALL. It just doesn’t have the space for a lot of people. It’s still a city, but Asgard the Realm has other things on it besides just the city, so it can’t have a huge population.

I wonder what the official population of New Asgard is when we see it in Endgame? And how many Asgardians come back post-Blip? This would really all depend on how many people made it through Hela’s rule and onto the ship during Ragnarok- and then half of them would’ve been killed by Thanos in the beginning of Infinity War. Would half of the remainder have been Snapped away at the end of IW, or would Thanos leave them out since he already halved their population? File under questions Marvel will probably never answer. Also file under “Thanos continues to be really bad at math.” (Should probably go look at the New Asgard sign again to check, but I don’t think it listed population.)

Loki annoying Mobius by messing with his salad was great. Loki annoying Mobius in general was great.

Loki letting the goats free in Pompeii made me think he might have a liking for goats, which means I now have a headcanon that Loki was friends with Thor’s goats as a kid and would sometimes let them loose to get their assistance with pranks. Thank you show, for cute kid Loki headcanons.

Tom Hiddleston probably had a BLAST yelling at people in Latin in character as Loki, and good for him!

Sylvie’s entrance sequence at the beginning of the episode with the fight scene vs the TVA set to “I Need a Hero” was amazing. I haven’t seen Shrek in a while but this might just reach the same levels of A+ “I Need A Hero” song usage as the Shrek sequence.

Speaking of the beginning of the episode, the Ren Faire setting was SO good. Great way to get laughs, and it made me want to go to a Ren Faire again.

The Roxxcart setting for the big encounter later in the episode made me flash back on all the times Roxxon’s appeared in the MCU. Two main thoughts: 1. I so want a Jane!Thor movie where the main villain is Dario Agger, evil Roxxon CEO and Minotaur. Preferably working with a better version of Malekith (from another universe probably) like in comics, because as much as I love Thor 2 my one complaint is that their version of Malekith was SO LAME. Especially compared to comics!Malekith. Plus an Agger + Malekith teamup would mean both the Nine Realms AND Earth are in danger, by definition. Thor 5 please, Marvel. 2. I really, really miss Cloak and Dagger and that show deserved so much better.

(Our) Loki’s perpetual insistence that he’s better and that the plot (pun intended) is about him is both funny and also a little sad- because he knows, or at least thinks, that if he stops insisting those things, everyone will stop paying any attention to him whatsoever. And he needs attention.

Poor Mobius probably felt so betrayed at the end of this episode. :(

Onward to episode 3!

This was by far my favorite episode so far. I LOVE Sylvie. I love her and Loki’s dynamic. I love that we get Loki talking to someone he considers an equal about some very personal things, and that Sylvie does the same thing with him. They understand each other in a way nobody else has. Because they’re the same person, sort of. I’ve taken to calling them “alternate reality twins” and that’s what I’ll keep calling them unless told otherwise.

They also annoy each other in a way nobody else can. And it’s hilarious. They look equally annoyed at the other not falling for their tricks and equally annoyed at needing the other’s help before they really start to bond and I LOVE ALL OF IT. I also feel like they adopt each other a lot quicker than either would be willing to admit, and then they’re annoyed at that! Loki yelling “you’re so weird!” at Sylvie made me go “OH they’re bickering like siblings!!!” and that was pretty early on! I’m an only child but that had peak sibling energy to me. Even them trying to trick and outdo each other had sibling energy most of the time.

Their earlier fight when they first get to Lamentis, before they realize where they are, had some VERY quality quips and also really had me wondering who would win in a fight between the two of them. Sylvie seems to have more physical strength, and she’s got a sword instead of daggers so longer reach, but Loki has skill and he has tricks. I think with his skill at magic (he can TELEPORT?! Probably only a few feet and probably limited by where he can see but that’s SO COOL!!! I don’t think we knew he could do that?!) Loki would likely run rings around Sylvie IF there were no people around for her to enchant. And assuming that she wasn’t able to set any traps beforehand, because Sylvie has proven well able to set traps to take down people who should be at a major advantage against her. Otherwise, I think Sylvie would win. She seems to have better physical training than our Loki, and if there were any people around for her to enchant he’d have to contend with them too. And if Sylvie could lay traps ahead of time, then it could go either way (you never can tell with a Loki, much less two) but I think Loki would probably lose. Loki is just as tricky as she is but that seems to be something she’s had a lot of practice in. Loki is more about confusing opponents with illusions and duplicates and talking his way around people. Sylvie sets traps instead, and is more comfortable/better at using brute physical force.

Speaking of enchanting, me while watching episode 2: “Hey, these mind controlling powers remind me of Enchantress’ powers!”

Sylvie in episode 3: calls her powers “enchanting”

Me: “OH.”

So Sylvie seems to be a composite of 3 characters. 1. Lady Loki, as in Loki when identifying as female. (There’s also that time from before they said Loki was genderfluid and a shapeshifter and back when Loki was still evil when he possessed Sif’s body and went by Lady Loki, but we don’t talk about that.) 2. Amora the Enchantress, a major Thor character/villain who uses magic to “enchant” people into doing what she wants-yes this is definitely a cringey “magically enchants people into loving her, consent-issues-out-the-wazoo” evil seductress stereotype in old comics, but it’s gotten better recently. And 3. Sylvie Lushton, the much lesser-known second Enchantress, who was a regular teenage human girl when after a Ragnarok (don’t remember which one, there have been multiple but this would’ve been early 2000s) Loki for shits and giggles decided to make her think she was Amora and give her the powers to match. She was on the Dark Reign-era (aka when Norman Osborn was in charge of SHIELD and the Avengers) version of the Young Avengers, the Young Masters of Evil, and that’s where I know her from. She’s a great character- she genuinely wants to do good and help people, but her brain is a bit messed up by the number Loki did on it, so she gets confused. I believe she’s currently in comic book limbo after Amora found out about her a while back, got pissed at her for stealing her name and her whole Thing, and tossed her somewhere dangerous on the World Tree while saying something about how if she can survive it then she’ll prove she deserves the name Enchantress. She sadly hasn’t been seen since as far as I know.

So each of those characters have similar characteristics with Loki’s Sylvie. Sylvie 1. Is a Loki who is female (Lady Loki), 2. Was presumably raised on Asgard and uses her magic to “enchant” people via a form of mind control into doing what she wants (Amora the Enchantress), 3. Is named Sylvie (Sylvie Lushton, Encanhtress II). Also worth noting that both Amora and Sylvie Lushton have blond hair, and so does the MCU’s Sylvie. All three characters also have green colored magic!

May turn the above bullets into their own post just for informational purposes. Also, when we said we wanted Enchantress in the MCU, this is not what we meant. Stop with the Monkey’s Paw-style wish granting, Marvel! (Looking at you, X-Men comics’ response to us wanting more Wanda.)

Anyway. Will round off with my favorite thing: everything on the train. Everything on the train was WONDERFUL.

Loki telling Sylvie about Frigga and how she taught him magic and then demonstrating the fireworks made me tear up. 🥺 Right in the feels. I miss Frigga a lot. I miss Asgard/the old Thor franchise in general a lot, but this is about Frigga. She was AMAZING and I miss her. Forever love the detail that Tom and Rene came up with the idea on the set of Thor 1 that Frigga is the one who taught Loki magic and fighting and how that informed their characters’ dynamic to the point of it being canonically discussed later. There’s a great Thor 2 deleted scene where Frigga talks to Thor about this exact thing. Frigga is such a fave of mine.

Sylvie telling Loki about her own past in turn made me very curious what her life was like and what the differences are. She seemed to have had a really hard time of it as a kid and I just want to hug her. (I also want to hug Loki, but that isn’t news.) Loki has had a very tough time, but really only after finding out he was adopted. He doesn’t appear to have had many friends on Asgard before (though I headcanon that he was friends with Lorelai before her exile, and since it’s my headcanon I imagine a similar situation with Amora, if not quite as close a friendship because comics Loki gets along better with Lorelai than her sister) but he at least had a family who loved him and who he loved, and a status as a prince that would’ve given him a good life and protection. Sylvie doesn’t seem to have had any of that as a kid. :(

“Surely there were some would-be princesses? Or perhaps a prince?” CANONICALLY BISEXUAL LOKI YES! YES.

Comics Loki is canonically both bisexual and genderfluid! Explicitly discussed on page, multiple times, and expounded on by writers too. (One of the most heartwarming Odin moments for me- yes, Odin does have heartwarming moments!- is when he’s telling his kids he loves them and he says something to the effect of “my son, my daughter, my child who is both.” The latter is Loki, the former are Thor and Angela. I might still be bitter over MCU Hela taking Angela’s place in the family sorry not sorry. This was in Original Sin: Thor and Loki, for anyone wondering.) I tend to default to he/him pronouns when talking about Loki because Loki tends to be male more in appearances, and also partly because it’s what I’m used to, but when Loki is clearly female I’ll of course switch to she/her. I have seen people use they/them pronouns for Loki too. I don’t think Marvel has ever said what pronouns Loki prefers though.

Speaking of which: I realize the “Sex: fluid” on Loki’s info card in episode 1 was probably foreshadowing Sylvie, but I kind of want to also read it as a nod to Loki being genderfluid. (Loki is also a shapeshifter, so gender would = sex in this case.) Whether it would be a nod to specifically comics Loki or also to MCU Loki is anyone’s guess as of now. We’ll find out I guess, or if it turns out to be strictly headcanon than it’s whatever floats your boat. :)

Back to the train scene!! Sylvie loudly protesting that she can’t sleep near people she doesn’t trust and then promptly falling asleep across from Loki a few minutes later made me emotional. ALTERNATE REALITY TWINS. Also VERY much a parallel to Loki falling asleep across from Mobius last episode.

Loki realizing that Asgard was really his home and his family really was his family only to also realize that he’ll never see either again and deciding to handle this by getting ABSOLUTELY DRUNK is SO ASGARDIAN OF HIM. I cannot. He even did the “Another!” *smashes glass* thing just to bring the point home.

Oh gosh, LOKI SINGING IN ASGARDIAN. FEEEEEEELS. I know, it’s actually Norwegian. I wonder a bit why they didn’t use Icelandic instead? Anyway, this was lovely and I love that going by the translation it’s a song of longing to go home, and it mentions Idunn’s apples of immortality. Apparently the full version of the song is going to be on the soundtrack and I’m so excited for that.

Loki’s metaphor of “love is a dagger” was actually quite good, he and Sylvie just lost the thread of it right at the end there. I wrote about this in tags somewhere, I’ll copy it in here later.

Edit: here’s an edited version of what I wrote on this post: This was a great metaphor until it got away from him. So close to the point (heh) and then they veered right away. Let me finish this for them: “Love is a dagger. It’s a weapon for far away and up close. You can see yourself in it. It’s beautiful. You have to give it to the right person.” So what this scene tells us about Loki is that he’s been hurt by love because it hasn’t been real. Or hasn’t felt real to him. Maybe he’s given it to the wrong people, or maybe he couldn’t tell who the right people were. (And if this is in reference to his family then I think he’s still too close to the revelation of his identity to be able to think clearly about the situation. Because his family DID love him! Even Odin. He just lost sight of that with everything happening.) Love is also about trust. And Loki doesn’t trust easily.

I really love this quote and this scene. Kinda want to do a “Love is a dagger” graphic of i ever have time.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if Loki and Sylvie come back to this conversation and come to a more satisfying conclusion. I hope that happens actually.

Sylvie using her headpiece against an opponent in the train fight instantly made me think of Wonder Woman. A+. Also, I haven’t mentioned yet but I love the fact that Sylvie’s headpiece looks exactly like God(dess) of Stories Loki’s from Agent of Asgard. Loki’s Ragnarok headpiece definitely had big AoA Loki vibes, but Sylvie’s headpiece is much closer- mostly it’s smaller, which is very Agent of Asgard Loki in general, but the one horn being cut off is specifically a God(dess) of Stories Loki thing and I love that they pulled from that.

Loki throwing the dagger and missing because he’s drunk was hilarious. Not good for Sylvie, but hilarious to watch. Don’t fight while drunk, Loki. Also, he threw “love” at Sylvie and I laughed when I realized that.

I didn’t realize until I saw a parallel gifset of it why Loki carefully going up to Sylvie after her scream felt so familiar- it’s just like how he went up to Thor after Thor overturned the table in Thor 1. The CONTINUINTY!! Absolutely amazing.

While trying to save the Ark Loki was probably thinking a lot about what he saw in the TVA clips of his own people trying to escape Asgard during Ragnarok and that hits kind of hard.

Loki apparently using telekinesis to stop the column from falling on him and Sylvie threw me off a lot until I saw another gifset that included the moment in Thor 2 (trailers only, I think) when he finds out Frigga is dead and all the furniture close to him breaks and flies away from him. The pose was even the same as when he stopped the column. I think he can sort of... push things away from him? (Almost like a Force Push 🤔) He seems to need to stop and tense up his arms while he does it though. And it doesn’t have the green effect the rest of his magic does, which is odd.

Speaking of Loki’s powers, I’ve said this in tags for sure but I’m so happy they’re FINALLY letting Loki hit people with green magic bolts. He does tend to prefer more subtle uses of magic, but I still can’t believe it took over 4 movies for that to happen. It’s kind of a no-brainer magic attack- probably exactly why Loki prefers other things- but you’d think he would’ve done it at least once after 4 movies.

I saw a post point out that by the end of the episode, Sylvie has lost both her headpiece and her cloak/robe thing, which makes me wonder if she’s going to get a new outfit by the end of the show. Or at least different accessories. I’m also curious if she’s going to take up the Enchantress moniker by the end of the show.

Finishing this with theme analysis and theory time:

The revelation that TVA agents used to be variants and were somehow reprogrammed makes so much sense. There’s something immediately shifty about the idea of 3 Time Keepers dictating the fate of everyone in infinite multiverses, and this just solidifies the hint that the Time Keepers are going to be the overall Big Bads. Which makes sense, narratively! But this shifts the TVA agents from villains to victims. Mobius gets to stay sympathetic and so does Sylvie, AND once the TVA agents find out about their origins it puts the same choice onto them that Loki has. They all have a choice now about who they’re going to be. They’re not who they thought they were, but are they going to let themselves be defined by what other people (here, the Time Keepers) think they should be, or are they going to be who they want to be.

This is exactly what Loki: Agent of Asgard is about, by the way. And I know I said in the last post that Loki’s greatest villain is himself, but I’m going to amend that because I didn’t say it quite right. Loki’s greatest villain is his evil self. Loki the god of evil, the Loki that is the villain. Loki (and all the other Asgardians) in Agent of Asgard is genuinely a god, and AoA tells us that gods are defined by belief- they are what people believe them to be. That’s how they exist. So because so many people believe Loki is an evil villain, the universe tries to twist him to fit that role. The plot of AoA is Loki trying to avoid that fate, to be better, be who he wants to be. It’s a meta story. It’s Loki trying to break free of the narrative he’s been part of up until that point. And eventually he manages to break the fourth wall itself and take control of his own narrative by becoming the god of stories. He controls his own story and it no longer matters what other people think he is, only what he thinks of himself. Nobody else gets to change or define him.

AoA’s villain is a future version of Loki that does go back to being evil. He’s basically the cosmic force- destiny, the narrative itself, etc- that’s trying to fit Loki into the “evil” box personified. Loki is seemingly taking that idea and subbing in a different personification for that same idea of lack of choice: the Time Keepers. We know from the Miss Minutes short in episode 1 that the Time Keepers want one timeline. We don’t know if that’s actually to prevent a multiversal war like the short suggests or if that’s just propaganda. When Loki tries to find out more about the war or about the beginning or end of time in episode 2, he can’t access those documents. Something doesn’t seem right there.

Edit: Also, in episode 2 Loki compares the TVA to Asgard by saying both the TVA agents and Asgardians are equally stupid. The reveal of who the TVA agents are adds a new dimension to that comparison. They both see themselves as guardians of the world around them, special, but really they’re no more special than the people they’re fighting to protect. Or in other words, they’re only as “special” (“heroic,” really) as they make themselves.

Also an edit: damn I just realized the continued stupidity of R*gnarok having Fenris and Odin in the same movie and Odin dies but get killed by Fenris. Asgardians have a saying about watching for wolves’ teeth.

I’ve seen the theory around that Sylvie might be a former TVA agent (which seems to be backed up by the midseason trailer I very belatedly saw, oh my GOD TINY SYLVIE!!!!! But also oh no tiny Sylvie at the TVA :() and I really like that. It makes sense. Maybe she went rogue because she realized the TVA is preventing people from choosing for themselves. Maybe she even knows what it is the Time Keepers actually want. Or maybe she’s doing this just for herself because she didn’t enjoy being brainwashed by the TVA and she doesn’t like being told who to be! That is after all part of “what makes a Loki a Loki,” even if she doesn’t use that name anymore.

I’m also wondering (hoping?) if maybe her being a former TVA agent could explain why she’s a mashup of different characters, instead of it just being Marvel mashing characters together because they can. This is mostly wild speculation, but could the TVA possibly have put multiple people’s timelines/memories inside her head? What if she’s in universe an amalgamation of a Loki, an Amora, and/or a Sylvie?

We’ve had some clips of what looks like a Thor 1 era Loki in front of the throne on Asgard- which looks different to me; maybe Loki redecorated? We’ve also gotten a shot of Loki in front of a ruined NYC skyline, including Avengers Tower. Maybe we’ll get an episode where Loki wins and we’ll see different timelines where he wins in different ways, until he realizes that this isn’t actually what he wants?

Whoops this got long??? Thanks for reading if you read this far!

#long post #loki spoilers #loki 1x03 #loki 1x02 #loki series #meta #a rare text post appears #my stuff

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senadimell · 3 years

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30 Questions Meme

I was tagged by @alwaysdramatizing! It’s taken me a while to get to it, but thank you so much for thinking of me. ^^

Rules: Answer these 30 questions then tag 20 people you wanna get to know better.

1. Name/Nickname: Poly/Polly

2. Gender: Female

3. Star Sign: Star light, star bright, first star I see tonight.

4. Height: Tall enough to reach things off the shelves, but shorter than my brothers

5. Time: fun fact, there are three different time zones in my phone clock and my alarm clock is in military time.

6. Birthday: Okay this is a liiiiiittttle too password guess-y

7. Favorite Band: hm hm hm, I really like Open the Door for Three, but Värttinä is also cool! Also the Grissini Project

8. Favorite Solo Artist: um...right now either Rachel Hardy or Colm McGuiness?

9. Song currently stuck in your head: Colm McGuiness’ cover of Sleeping in the Cold Below

10. Last movie watched: The Pacifier. Not of my choosing, but my brother giggled a lot.

11. Last show watched: Loki Actually, I over-watched a Spiderman show my brothers are watching! Miles, vampires, and a multiverse were involved.

12. When I created this blog: 2020, circa March?

13. What I post: hehehe, at this point I don’t know. Some art, some ramblings and over-analysis, a few fandoms I don’t have a sideblog for. Whatever strikes my fancy, really.

14. Last thing I googled: psych I don’t use google! But the last thing I remember searching was ASAN, but I forgot what the acronym actually was and searched ASEAN instead, which is...very different, but also up my alley.

15. Other blogs of yours: I run a Doctor Who blog, a Harry Potter (mostly Snape) blog, a Lord of the Rings blog, and this one random place I reserve to dump writing thoughts.

16. Following: 105

17. Do you get asks?: Rarely! Though I have been tagged a fair bit, which is fun.

18. Why you chose your URL: ummmmm so I happen to have a list of names I’ve been collecting and I like the way this one sounds, and it also wouldn’t fit the naming conventions of any of the stories I’d like to write, so I used it!

19. Lucky number: 13, because younger me thought it was Cool to pick an unlucky number (but also it’s prime and fibonacci, so that’s actually cool).

20. Followers: 123? I’ve probably got some p*rn bots in there, better clean house.

21. Average hours of sleep: 7-8 hours. Yes. Good. That’s taken some work! Though sometimes I get 6.5 or 3. Those are the increments that seem to work.

22. Play any instruments: Piano! Pretty well. Clarinet, eh, it’s been a few years and I need new reeds. Ocarina, not very well at all, pan flute, marginally better than ocarina.

23. What’re you wearing: hiking pants, dressy t-shirt, old house sweater, socks. Hairstick bun, headphones.

24. Dream job: One that I am not painfully bored in and do not dread. Not too loud or bright.

25. Favorite food: Mangos are brilliant. So are cherries. And bread. Especially bagels.

26. Nationality: US of A

27. Favorite song: Proud, cover by Susan Boyle. Oof, that one rings so true.

28. Last song you listened to: Jenny of Oldstones (Grissini Project version), I think! Or it may have been a rendition of The Wellerman. Nope, I am not over it.

29. Last book you read: Currently reading Why I Jump, by Naoki Higashida. Before that, Welcome to the Autistic Community, and before that Ender in Exile (which is REALLY not my cup of tea but I was reading for a loved one).

30. 3 fictional universes you’d love to live in: I’ve been fascinated by the X-men universe for a long time, sans space threats or the Conflict-driving THREAT OF DOOM type stuff, but more along the socio-political side of things, probably because it is not so far off from our own. I would love to travel with the Doctor. ^^

(Whoops, forgot to pass it on!) @lifeisinthepixels, @ladyzayinwonderland if you’re interested!

#asks #alwaysdramatizing #this was fun!#thanks!

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lokigodofaces · 3 years

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Question: why the heck does the TVA care about the “proper flow of time”? Based off of the Russos, time travel creates a multiverse. Basically, if you go back in time, you create a branch universe from that point of existence you went to. We know that Marvel is embracing the multiverse. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, anyone? The multiverse was confirmed back in Doctor Strange in a line from the Ancient One. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. explores the multiverse (it’s how Deke doesn’t die when the future is changed in s5). I’m told Runaways does as well but I’ve never seen it so I can’t confirm. The ending of WandaVision almost certainly is foreshadowing for a multiverse event. Spider-Man: No Way Home is likely a multiverse story. So, based on current time travel rules established in Avengers: Endgame, time travel creates alternate universes. But why does the TVA care? This isn’t like Legends of Tomorrow, where time travel doesn’t affect the multiverse, so the Legends have to handle things that change history. Time travel makes new universes. Why does that matter?

There are two possibilities I see.

#1: There is some sort of lore we don’t know about yet that we will learn about in Loki or another title.

We don’t know an overwhelming amount about time travel in the MCU. We don’t know what rules there are really. If anyone knows, it’s the TVA. Perhaps there is a real danger caused by the creation of new universes. The only danger we know about is what happens when Infinity Stones are removed from a universe. This causes reality to start to fall apart. Otherwise, we don’t know what dangers there are. Maybe the creation of new universes weakens the grip of reality, or there is danger in universes colliding and less universes = less collisions, or anything along those lines. This would mean that the very existence of the variant Loki is a threat to all existence, and it would make sense for the TVA to be worried about him. The synopsis and trailers say there is a bigger threat than Loki, so they’re keeping Loki around to help deal with that threat because there is some sort of hierarchy of threats apparently. This could also explain the madness of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Rules were broken, now Strange has to work to fix things to save existence. This also is a good literary decision. If there are consequences to time travel/multiverse travel, it can only be used in important instances. So they can’t fix everything through time travel.

#2: The TVA are control freaks/time purists.

Theoretically, there shouldn’t be any problem with a multiverse. The universes (normally) don’t interact. And, theoretically, every second an infinite amount of new universes are made. Basically to simplify the real life theory, there is a universe for every possible outcome. Let’s say I have Cheerios, Chex, and Corn Flakes. Which do I choose to eat? In one universe I eat Cheerios. In another, Chex. Another, Corn Flakes. Another, I skip breakfast. Another, I cook eggs instead. You get the picture. And this isn’t just with sentient choices. This is with everything animals do. This is with everything done in the cosmos. There’s a universe where the Earth was never formed. In fact, when I say “a universe,” I mean infinite universes where Earth was never formed or whatever. There are immeasurable things that lead to the Earth’s formation, and an infinite amount of ways things could have gone instead. There are an infinite amount of universes where I eat yogurt tomorrow for breakfast because there are still infinite things to break off into a new reality. If this is the case, the TVA is losing a battle that can’t be won. They can’t keep a perfectly simple timeline. Even without time travel, there are infinite universes. So why should the TVA care about time travel? Perhaps they believe in “true universe break off” or something along those lines. Or they really are trying to keep only a handful of universes. Then it can be revealed that, no, it is okay for the multiverse to be crazy because it already is. What is one example of time travel next to infinite universes? Loki can burn the TVA to the ground because the TVA keeps kidnapping people from different universes because of their purity agenda.

I think #1 is more likely because it works better with Multiverse of Madness, but that #2 is ultimately a more interesting concept.

#loki (2021)#time variance authority #loki laufeyson #avengers: endgame (2019)#doctor strange in the multiverse of madness #doctor strange (2016)#agents of s.h.i.e.l.d. (2013 2020)#runaways #time travel #tva #multiverse

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