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#also while i understand going out and social distance is important i needed to go out for essentials and it was next to the store i went to
novaawayne · 8 months
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I love my fans but I love more || Izuku Midoriya
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pairing: pro hero! Izuku Midoriya x fem assistant! reader
summary: Izuku loves his fans but he loves you even more even if you haven't realized it yet
warnings: NSFW. Riding. Soft dom! Izuku. Pet names (bunny). Assistant x boss. Bad grammar. One bed. Fluff. A little angst(? maybe. Izuku is the sweetest men in word <3
wc: +5.4K
a/n. english is not my first language, sorry for the mistakes.
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Izuku was always very nice to his fans. Being the number one hero, he had an image to maintain but it never bothered him. He always had time for a photo or an autograph when someone asked him for it.
However, it was complete chaos when Izuku had an event out of town and had to stay at a hotel. Social media was always following him everywhere and there were some pretty crazy fans following Izuku's every step and quickly finding out which hotel he would be staying at.
It was so that as soon as he got out of the car, he already had a crowd around him waiting to get a photo or an autograph from their favorite hero. It was even enough for them that Izuku looked at them for a couple of seconds.
He didn't need bodyguards, he was a hero, so he didn't really need anyone to protect him unless the event they were attending assigned some.
But this was where your work came in. You were Izuku's personal assistant and you had a pretty tight schedule to keep up with. You understood that it was important to maintain an image for Izuku, so you allowed him to stay for a few minutes but if people kept stopping him with every step he took, it was you who kindly intervened, mentioning that Izuku still had things to do and they could see him another time. Maybe at the event the next day, where he would even answer a few questions.
That particular night, it had been a heavy day and a rather long and tedious flight to your destination. So it was obvious that Izuku was exhausted and needed a good eight hours of sleep from him to stay fresh for the next day.
Unfortunately, when the car stopped in front of the hotel, they saw the crowd of Izuku's fans waiting for him. The green haired boy tried to show a huge smile but it was obvious that he was really exhausted.
The only "bad" thing about the intense fans was when they harassed the poor guy. Some girls would very blatantly come on to him or reach out to touch him in inappropriate parts. A few others gave her their panties or bras. Izuku always blushed at that but in the end he accepted it somehow.
You didn't really care that Izuku had a fun night with any girl he wanted, the problem was when those girls wanted to take advantage of it. They would upload indecent photos to their social media to get more followers or blackmail Izuku to get something in return. There were few girls who really enjoyed that night and left to continue with their lives.
You gave your boss a smile and he responded in kind. So you opened the door and went out first, Izuku came out right behind you and the crowd rushed at you.
You tried to keep everyone at a fair distance and it more or less worked. But there were really a lot of people around him. You looked at your watch, you would allow it to be there for five minutes and then you would drag it if necessary.
Also, Izuku was one of the people who found it difficult to say 'no' and that night was no exception. He was really tired but still he showed a huge smile as he signed some autographs and took photos with some other people.
You made sure that everything was kept in order. You looked at your watch again, ten minutes had passed and you decided that it was enough.
"Sorry guys. Izuku has to go now but tomorrow you can see him again" you raised your voice and everyone seemed to understand.
Izuku gave you a grateful look and they both went into the hotel, where the security guard didn't allow anyone who wasn't staying to enter.
The green haired man sighed tiredly.
“Go sit while I order the rooms”
"Okay, thanks"
The man dragged his feet into the waiting room and you went to the counter, where a man was looking at his computer.
"Hello" you greeted kindly.
The man took his eyes off the computer and gave you a friendly smile.
"Hello, how can I help you?"
"I have a reservation"
He looked back at the computer as he asked, “whose name is the reservation in?”
“L/N” you answered. You always said your name for Izuku's safety.
The man checked his computer.
"Oh yes" he smiled and looked at you again "a double room, is that correct?"
You frowned at him and pulled out your tablet.
"No, actually I made the reservation for two single rooms" you spoke while looking for your reservation record.
That man also looked a bit confused as he went back to check his computer.
"I'm sorry lady. Here I only have the record of a matrimonial room”
You found your record, where it actually said that you had booked two single rooms. You showed the man the tablet and he soon looked embarrassed.
"Is right. I'll call my manager to find out what happened."
"Yes, thanks"
The man left after giving you back your tablet. You started to hit the wood with your fingers and looked at Izuku who was falling asleep on the couch. Maybe you could give the room to Izuku and you would manage otherwise, besides you could just rent an extra room and the problem would be solved, but you were worried that that man seemed very concerned about that mistake. The most important thing to you was Izuku's safety and comfort.
The man from earlier returned to a smaller, chubby man with a large mustache.
"Hello Miss. My employee told me that there was an error with your reservation”
You nodded.
"Yes. But it doesn't matter, I just want one more room”
Both men looked at each other.
"I'm sorry, but due to the hero event starting tomorrow, we don't have any more rooms available," he explained.
You looked at him worried and a little annoyed. It was they who made the mistake not you.
"Not a room? It doesn't matter if it's the most expensive or the cheapest”.
The first man who answered you looked at his computer but quickly denied it.
"Very sorry. We can give you a fifty percent discount coupon for your next visit”
“I don't need a coupon” You didn't want to sound upset, but you were. You felt tired and Izuku had to go to sleep immediately. "I want a room. I wasn't the one who made the mistake."
“I understand and I really apologize. In addition to the coupon, your room service will be free”
Before you could answer, Izuku was already behind you.
"Everything is alright?" he asked you, he sounded a little sleepy.
"Not really. There was an error with the reservation and they will only give us one room instead of two”
"Oh..." was all he said but he cleared his throat "well... we can share"
You didn't want to upset him. Much less when Izuku had such an important event the next day. But it was already late and you were too tired to go looking for another hotel with available rooms. Which was very complicated due to the event.
"Good" you gave up.
You finished arranging the documents with the manager and he handed you the key card. You and Izuku headed for the elevator but before you could get in, a girl approached him. She looked very shy as she kept her gaze downcast and her cheeks were an intense red color. She was wearing a pastel pink skirt that was too short for her along with a white top.
Izuku gave you an all-okay look so you stayed a bit away while they talked. You didn't hear his words, but you did catch how your boss's neck turned red. You were already getting an idea of ​​the conversation they were having and you felt a little uncomfortable.
It was obvious that Izuku might need to relax somehow and might want to sleep with a girl.
That girl gave him a gift bag, Izuku took it curiously but as soon as she saw its contents, even her ears turned red. They were probably panties. Those were the gifts they gave him most frequently.
You sighed tired. It was your cue to give them their space. You approached them carefully, getting their attention.
"Deku, sorry to interrupt" you cleared your throat and handed him the room access card. He took it without understanding why you were giving it to him “I just called the hotel that is two blocks from here and they have a free room. I'll go there and we can meet here first thing tomorrow morning in the lobby."
That girl got closer to Izuku, clinging to the man's shirt.
The green-haired man looks at you, trying to reflect on your words, but he wasn't able to say anything because the mysterious and pretty girl is already taking him to the elevator. You raise your hand in farewell as they leave.
You sigh tired and return to the lobby to take a seat on one of the sofas and take your laptop out of your small suitcase that you carried hanging from your shoulder to work for a while. You can't sleep there, but they won't kick you out if you're just working. Also, the guy behind the counter is still engrossed behind his computer and hasn't told you anything about not being there.
However, it's not like you could do much. Your work was complete because you never liked to leave anything to the last minute.
You stared at the screen, deciding to review for the millionth time the schedule of the next day's event. Maybe you can have a coffee along with a power drink in the morning and you will be as good as new. You would only have to take a bath and change your clothes but it is something that you would fix when the time comes.
You read the document but you had barely reached the second page when you heard the elevator doors open revealing a very tired Izuku.
They both looked at each other for a fraction of a second. Izuku hurried over and before you could react, the man had taken your laptop shut along with your suitcase and slung it over his shoulder.
"Come on, we have to rest" he said simply.
You had to run after him to the elevator without being quite sure what had happened. Once inside the metallic box, you looked at Izuku.
“Ummmm,” you stammered, “I…thought you might want some alone time with that girl.”
He looked at you with some curiosity.
"Why would you believe that?" He was genuinely curious.
You shrugged.
“It has been a stressful week, especially today. I thought…” your cheeks started to feel hot “that maybe… you would want… you know. Spend the night with someone” you muttered the last part.
You didn't dare look at him after saying that. It was a bit embarrassing. Furthermore, you had perfectly concealed your feelings towards the man. You had fallen in love with him a long time ago but you were only his assistant and he could be with beautiful models or whoever he wanted. Why would you be?
Izuku placed a hand on your head gently and shook your hair.
"Not really," he said at last. Still, you didn't dare to look at him “I just want to sleep and I'm sure you need rest too. You've done so much lately that I even feel a little guilty."
You quickly denied. He never bothered you about your work, in fact you were happy to do anything he asked of you.
"I'm fine" you assured and looked at him for the first time. Izuku noticed the decision in your eyes "I just want everything to be perfect for tomorrow and your well-being is more important to me"
The doors opened and Izuku placed a hand to stop them from closing as you walked out.
They walked down the hall and stopped in front of the door that had the number 37 on it. Izuku took out the access card and opened it. Once again, he let you go first. You immediately noticed the lights on and Izuku's suitcase on the floor.
It was quite a small room. Upon entering, there was a small corridor, to the right, in the middle of that corridor there was a door that took you to a bathroom with a shower. Further on, at the end of the small hallway, you found the double bed that took up most of the space. Opposite the bed was a chest of drawers and on the wall was a screen. In one corner was a small glass table along with two small chairs. On each side of the bed, there were two nightstands with a lamp on each. And that was it. There wasn't even much sleeping space on the floor.
Izuku carefully placed your suitcase on the floor and the laptop on the glass table.
"If you don't mind, I'll use the bathroom and then you can use it," he said.
"Oh sure. Take all the time you need".
You saw him look for something in his suitcase and then he went into the bathroom that they had passed. You sighed heavily when you heard the door close. At least the bed was big enough and they could put a barrier in the middle to avoid any awkward situation.
You took care of that before Izuku came out. You placed the pillows in the middle, leaving a little more room on your boss's side since he was bigger than you and he needed a little more space. You also pulled out an extra sheet that was stored in the dresser and reinforced the little barrier.
Proud of your work, you headed to your small suitcase to get out of your pajamas and wait for Izuku to come out.
The man came out almost immediately and was a bit puzzled to see the large divider on the bed.
“Is it okay to sleep on the left side?” You asked while looking at him.
You almost felt your heart jump out of your chest. You've seen your boss in every way there is. In his hero suit, in a suit, in his normal clothes, even in a bathing suit for some photo shoot. But this time... seeing him in his pajamas and in such an intimate situation... was strange. He wore a white shirt that fitted perfectly to his body like a second skin, making every one of his muscles stand out. His sweatpants hugged his hips perfectly even though they were dangerously low, leaving little to the imagination where a small bulge would show. He probably wasn't that little but you didn't want to think about it too much.
You stopped navigating your dirty thoughts when he spoke.
"Oh… sure" he mumbled and sat on the edge of the bed "but you used all the pillows and I really would love to have at least one under my head" it wasn't a complaint, in fact his tone was amused but for a second you had forgotten that little detail, more focused on establishing a division.
“Oh… you're right” you cleared your throat “take the pillows you want and you can keep the extra sheet as a divider. Now I'll take the bath."
You didn't wait for an answer and you ran away with all your things.
Your visit to the bathroom was quick. It was quite a nice and spacious bathroom but you didn't admire it too much. You washed your face and brushed your teeth before changing clothes. Fifteen minutes later, you had emerged from the bathroom in shorts and a rather skinny tank top. It was very hot even at night, so you wanted something light to sleep in but you never imagined that you would sleep in the same room as your boss.
Izuku had already settled on his side of the bed but he was leaning against the headboard looking at his cell phone. He turned to look at you when he heard you close the bathroom door and his cheeks began to turn a deep red as he watched you.
He chose not to say anything as he urgently looked at his cell phone but now his brain had a tattoo of you in tiny pajamas. And not only that. You would sleep next to him dressed like that.
You turned off the lights and settled on your side of the bed. The lights on the table lamps were still on.
"Good night" you muttered as you lay on your side, turning your back to Izuku.
"Good night," he murmured in the same way.
You turned off the lamp next to you and squeezed your eyes shut to try to sleep but you couldn't. A pain spread between your legs and although you squeezed your legs a bit, the image of Izuku did not disappear from your mind. The worst thing was that you had him on one side and you couldn't do anything to ease the pain.
You heard Izuku turn off his lamp and get comfortable on the bed. Maybe you could wait for him to fall asleep and ease that pain a bit.
The minutes passed and you heard your boss's soft breathing indicating that he had fallen asleep.
"Izuku?" You murmured in the dark and when you didn't get an answer you sighed with relief.
You settled on the bed and one of your hands traveled under your shirt to one of your nipples to caress it. Your other hand went to the inside of your panties where you felt all the accumulated moisture. You quickly began rubbing your clit while biting down hard on your lip to catch any kind of sound.
The mere thought of having Izuku on your side and the possibility of him getting you, turned you on even more. You rubbed harder on your clit and twisted your nipple for more stimulation.
Your whole body burned with pleasure. you were close you just needed a little more but you felt like it wasn't enough.
A moan escaped your lips and although you didn't notice it, the sound alerted Izuku. Who widened his eyes in concern but held his ground when he heard the wet sounds you were making.
His cheeks heated up and he felt his cock start to get hard. Your breaths were heavy and you could no longer control your moans. Izuku felt a bit guilty for hearing what you were doing… but it wasn't his fault that you decided to masturbate in the middle of the night.
His hand went inside his clothing and he began stroking the length of him as he imagined what you were doing. He could just flip over and remove that stupid barrier you'd tried to put up but now there was just a sheet that was probably going to be gone in the morning.
The pre-cum began to drip and he used it to lubricate all of his cock. He traced small circles with his thumb in the slit and he had to bite down hard on his cheek to keep from gasping when he heard you moan louder.
“Izu…” he heard you groan and stopped abruptly. Did you hear right? Or was it just a hallucination? Did you find out that he woke up? “Please…” you begged. Izuku got even harder if that was possible.
He wanted you. In all possible ways. You were his cute secretary that he has been in love with for some time now. He loves to masturbate while looking at a photo of the two of you together that was taken at an event two years ago, where you were wearing a suit similar to his but yours was a mini skirt, with a top that exposed your midsection and you were wearing some pretty bunny ears. Damn, I loved that photo. That day I just wanted to bend you over the interview table to fuck you in front of everyone and show them who you belonged to. But he held back.
He respected you and admired you for the hard work you did for him. But damn, how can you not fall in love with someone as perfect as you? At least, he saw you as the most perfect being that has walked the earth.
That night, when that pretty and shy girl approached him to ask if he wanted to spend the night together, he got a little confused when he saw you handing him the room card. He knew that you knew about his small encounters with his fans, because you were the one who always ended up fixing all the problems that arose later. But it had been a while since he stopped doing that, mainly because now he had you and he didn't want to betray you in any way, even though they weren't even together. His hand and your photos had been enough for some time but lately Izuku felt like he needed more.
And now, for reasons of the universe, the hotel where they were staying had only one double room that they would have to share. It could be better?
When that girl took him to the elevator, they stopped at a random floor and he explained that he wasn't interested in her. He even returned the pretty panties she had given him in a gift bag.
That girl seemed sad, even a little upset but she went back to her room with her friends. Izuku for his part, went to the room to leave his things and go looking for you. He knew there wouldn't be any rooms available and he knew you wouldn't risk going out so late at night, so he was relieved to see you at the front desk in front of your computer.
Returning to the present.
Izuku continued to pump his cock as he listened to you moan his name like it was some kind of mantra. He loved it. You were driving him crazy.
"Ugh" you complained. Your hand was not enough.
Izuku felt a bit bold and decided to speak ignoring the possibility that things between you two might not be the same again.
"Do you need a little help, bunny?" He asked.
You froze in place. Izuku had discovered you? You noticed that you had no longer held back your moans due to the intense pleasure that consumed you.
"Bunny?" He tried again.
fuck it You needed it.
"Yes, please" you murmured.
In a second, you felt the bed move a bit and Izuku was on top of you. His intense eyes looked at you with hunger willing to make you feel good.
You lifted your hands to his cheeks and raised your head to capture his lips. Izuku accepted it immediately.
You couldn't think about your actions, not when you desperately need to relieve your arousal. For a second, you even thought it was a dream.
It was a rough and needy kiss but Izuku tried to do it a little more gently to lengthen the moment. he didn't want to wake up the next day and have you think this was a one night stand. No. He wanted to make it clear to you that he loved you much more than that.
He put a hand under your waist and turned them so that you were sitting on his waist. You looked down at him for a moment while you controlled his breathing.
"You are so beautiful" Izuku spoke in a whisper "can I touch you?"
You nodded. It was all you needed.
Izuku made himself comfortable by sitting against the headboard and bringing his hands to your waist. His calloused fingers ran over your soft, warm skin very carefully. For one of the strongest and most powerful men in the world, it was surprising how soft he was.
Slowly he raised your little tank top until it was removed from your body. There was nothing below and for a moment he was mesmerized by the sight of you. You almost get embarrassed but he didn't give you enough time because Izuku grabbed your waist again with force and leaned forward to put one of your tits in his mouth. You gasped as your back arched and your hands went to his hair.
That felt so good. You needed more from Izuku. Much more.
He did the same on both sides, licking and sucking on your nipples as if he were a hungry man. When he finished, he began to leave a trail of kisses and marks from your chest to your neck, passing through your shoulders and up your beautiful face to end on your lips.
You moved your hips and finally realized how hard Izuku was. You didn't think much of it when you reached your hands to the hem of Izuku's shirt to lift it up. You broke away from him gasping and he helped you remove the garment.
It was your turn to admire it from your place. It was beautiful. Izuku blushed a little embarrassed, thinking that maybe you would find it unpleasant to see all the scars that adorned his body. But it was not the case.
You bit your lower lip gently and took your fingers to his chest to trace one of the scars. Izuku sighed at the action. Your fingers were soft and gentle and he liked that.
You leaned in as you took his cheeks and gently kissed his lips. Izuku put his hands on your hips and his kiss began to deepen more and more.
Both had the urge to feel each other's body more and more. They parted after a moment with ragged breaths. But you quickly leaned in to kiss Izuku's neck and he couldn't help but moan when you got to that sweet spot that was driving him crazy. You started to go lower and lower and when he realized what you were going to do, he stopped you while he panted. It took a lot of courage for him not to give in to his pleasure.
"Wait" he murmured "tonight... I wish you would ride me" his cheeks were bright red "I want to feel you squeeze me"
You agreed. You would do anything to make him feel good.
The rest of both of their clothes disappeared in a second and you placed yourself on top of Izuku's cock. You gently took it in your hand and rubbed it against your wet cunt. They both groaned. Izuku squeezed your hips hard, silently asking you to end his suffering.
"Please, bunny," he stammered, "please, I need you so bad."
Seeing him below you and also hearing him beg made you reach your limit. You placed a hand on his shoulder for balance and began to slowly lower yourself. They both gasped as they tried to get used to the sensation.
Izuku was breathing heavily, probably trying with all his might not to cum right then. Your soft walls were so warm and hugged him so tightly he was about to lose his mind. He leaned forward to suck on your nipple.
You still couldn't get used to the size of him. Izuku had a really big cock and he was stretching you in a way you didn't know was possible. There was pain and pleasure combined that made your eyes sting from the tears that trickled down your cheeks.
It wasn't long before you started moving your hips. Izuku pressed his fingers more on your skin but he didn't stop licking and sucking on your nipple.
"That's it bunny" Izuku spoke as he pulled away "you feel so good. You are so beautiful"
You couldn't think. The compliments were going through your head.
You brought a hand to your clit to rub it but Izuku removed your hand and they both looked into each other's eyes for a moment.
"Let me do it" he asked "let me make you feel good"
You couldn't talk. Izuku's cock inside you was making a complete fool of you. You just nodded.
Izuku stuck two fingers inside your mouth that you filled with drool and licked like it was a delicious candy. As Izuku pulled his fingers from him, he brought them to your already sensitive clit to rub.
Your mind went blank. You could only feel the pleasure that Izuku was granting you at that moment and that was it.
Izuku kept telling you how well you were doing as he began to set the pace himself. With his great strength, you were probably lighter than a feather. You were like a rag doll to him and you just wanted him to use you however he wanted.
"Izu..." you gasped "please... I want you to cum inside me"
The very thought made Izuku almost come on the spot but he tried to hold on a little longer.
"Are you sure?" he asked you.
"Yes, yes please. I need it so much"
The pounding of skin against skin echoed throughout the room along with their gasps and moans. They were both close but Izuku wasn't going to cum until you did.
"I'm going to…"
"Yes, bunny. Cum on my dick. You make a mess"
And that you did. A loud moan escaped your lips but Izuku didn't stop his thrusts and he didn't stop screaming at your clit, causing you to be overstimulated.
"Bunny" Izuku groaned "I'm close too. Please tell me that you really want me to cum inside you."
Your walls tightened around his cock.
"Please Izuku. I want your sperm inside me" you managed to say when you started to come down from your cloud "I want it to slip between my legs even tomorrow so that the whole world can see who I belong to"
Your words drove him completely crazy and the mere image of you, with his own semen dripping from your beautiful legs made him cum instantly.
They both breathed heavily. You flopped onto Izuku's chest as he caressed your back. They were both sweaty and sticky but that didn't matter right now.
"Come on bunny" Izuku spoke softly "let me clean up this mess a bit"
You nodded, but your eyes were closed and you had no strength to move. Izuku was warm and you didn't want to be separated from him.
He smiled when he realized it and continued leaving soft caresses on your back. In the end you woke up while letting out a deep sigh and fell on the bed.
Izuku stood up to put on his underwear and ran to the bathroom. He came back with a wet towel to clean you up a bit. Immediately he took a bottle of water that was on the glass table and asked you to drink a little.
It seemed like a dream and you never wanted it to end. Izuku helped you put on his shirt so you could cover yourself up a bit and then he arranged the covers over your body. Immediately he settled on his side of the bed and looked at the ceiling for a moment before speaking.
“Can I… can I snuggle with you?” He asked you. His cheeks felt hot with embarrassment.
You let out a laugh and it was you who approached him to lie on his chest. Izuku sighed in relief and hugged you, leaving a kiss on your forehead.
“Just so you know… I love my fans but I love you much more”
"I love you very much too, Izu"
He smiled. They were the only words he needed to hear.
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I'm not really sure what this is but I'm practicing my smut writing a bit. I hope you liked it even a little <3
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zillaphoneswag · 4 months
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I feel like I would be doing a disservice to the people of Palestine if I didn’t bring up the things that Noah said and did on social media concerning Zionist posts.
I know we’re waiting on Smosh to do something. I know we’re waiting on a statement. Truthfully, I do believe they will take care of it, and if they choose not to that’s when we need to really reconsider the media we consume from them.
This is an extremely heavy political situation, I cannot stress this enough, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they were taking some genuinely needed time with HR before making an official statement. I need everyone to understand that this isn’t some YouTuber apology that can be put out on the fly and if its extremely shitty we can all laugh at it.
This is a cast member directly supporting genocide. This is an individual who only removed his Zionist posts and comments because he got caught. I wouldn’t be surprised if he would have left them up in a situation where no one found them and rightfully let the fandom know.
So far Angela is the only one who has stated her direct support of Palestine when asked about the situation, and so far Smosh has started removing Noah from thumbnails and many videos that weren’t filmed before this was found out. The response may take time because of HR discussions, that’s true, but we need to take into consideration that if we never get a statement on this, we need to reconsider our place in the fandom.
I know it hurts. It hurts me, I adore Smosh and their content so much. But no part of me can support a channel that, while they may not support his beliefs, are staying silent on the matter.
Keep in mind that we’re talking about people here. While they may be micro-celebrities, they are still people. We don’t worship people, we don’t put them on a pedestal, and we certainly should hold them as accountable as we would hold ourselves if we did the same thing.
Whether or not you distance yourself from these politics because of the stress (valid) or take an explicit stance with action behind it (also valid), it’s important to remember these types of things. In this case, ignoring the issue concerning a cast member isn’t going to work.
I don’t think it’s right to jump to any major conclusions just yet or to spread misinformation, but this something that I at least wanted to make a statement about. Free Palestine. Love you potatoes, love you Smosh family
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discworld looks like such a fun book series!!! but the large amount of novels and of different suggested reading orders have put me off actually starting the series. do you have any suggestions?
Yes!!!
Here's a little secret for you: most of the Discworld novels are actually fairly short, especially the early ones. I first read almost all of the Discworld books in one summer between 8th and 9th grade (there was roughly about 35 of them published at that time). So while the number of books can look intimidating, most of them are a much quicker read than the doorstoppers people tend to imagine when thinking about classic long-running fantasy series.
Regarding the reading order: yeah, there's a ton of different suggested reading orders out there. This is for two reasons. The first reason is that quite simply, the earliest books in the series... don't measure up to the standards of his later works. They're not bad, per se. But when compared to his later books, they're not as polished and the pacing isn't great. Early Discworld books also don't have nearly as much pointed social commentary; they're largely parodies of the standard sword-and-sorcery fantasy tropes that were popular in 80s pulp fiction. They're still decently funny if you're familiar with fantasy genre cliches from 40 years ago, but even then they may not be compelling enough to make you want to read thirty more of them. That's why most Discworld fans try to get people to start by reading later works.
Which brings us to our second reason for all the different reading orders: unlike many series where reading the books out of order wouldn't make any sense from a plot or character development perspective, each novel in the Discworld series could technically be a stand-alone book. While most of the books do follow each other chronologically in the same order they were published, they don't need to be read in that order to be understood. My personal reading order for Discworld was literally "whichever book is currently available at the library within biking distance" and I still was able to enjoy all of them.
Within the broader series, there are a few "sub-series" - series which follow the same character and/or set of characters over time. These sub-series are usually the easiest way to get people into Discworld, because once they become invested in a particular character they're likely to want to keep reading about that character.
The main sub-series people tend to recommend is the City Watch sub-series (starting with "Guards! Guards!"). This is for a number of undeniably valid reasons. The main character is very flawed but very likable, the books usually have a whodunnit plot that can attract people who might not normally read fantasy genre, and they're pretty influential in regards to the overall development of the Discworld's world building.
The second favorites for recommended sub-series are usually either the Death books (starting with "Mort", follows the actual physical Grim Reaper and his mostly human family either having or solving various existential crises) or the Moist von Lipwig books (starting with "Going Postal", a later but important entry in the series following conman Moist von Lipwig as he establishes various governmental institutions such as the post office or the mint (this series literally helped me better understand our real-life contemporary fiscal system)).
But what might draw you in to Discworld in general really can depend on what kind of interests you have. For example, if you're a big fan of Shakespeare and are really familiar with his works, Wyrd Sisters will probably draw you in with all the Shakespeare references. But if you're not as familiar with Shakespeare, then that particular book may not be the most interesting starting point.
My first Discworld novel was "The Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents" (my friend at the time wanted me to read it because she had pet rats and was scouring the library for books where rats were heroes instead of villains). It's technically a young adult novel, but the storytelling and writing style was intriguing enough to get me looking for more.
I think my single favorite Discworld novel is "Small Gods", which is a standalone novel (not part of any sub-series) about what religion means. Part of it is that I happened to read it at just the right time in my life, but also it's just a great book that discusses some truly meaningful issues around belief and religion and it influenced how I see the world. Plus, on a conceptional level? The plot is hilarious. "All powerful god of a monotheistic religion accidentally gets stuck in the form of a tortoise and only one single person can speak with him so now they have to work together to prove to everyone in their pseudo-Catholic community that God is currently a literal tortoise."
I guess. If you've managed to read this far. If you have any further questions. Feel free to ask as you can probably see that I'd be more than happy to answer them.
P.S. This is one of the better "get started reading Discworld" guides I've seen
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mrvenuspluto · 4 months
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HIDDEN ( 12TH HOUSE SUN ) AGENDA
The soul might feel the power and authority within but cant project it into reality , which can cause self entitlement and distancing theirselves from others and social gatherings . They feel like they cant be seen or heard like their past life experience . This placement can bring an old soul who had many life time experiences and here to live out a last physical experience or not other factors can change up the observations . These souls may find greater outlets , opportunities and like minded souls abroad or in distant foreign lands . For example i have 12th house placement myself , life has been very interesting in a private , ether realm way , at times you may feel distance and alone in a room full of people you know or may not , even close love ones . Your senses are heighten you pick up on things others cant see , hear , smell or phantom . The sun here helps shine light on your subconcious , fears, gifts , talents , habits , and your new souls granted potential and mission . What i learned once you put in good deeds , accept change and live in your new spiritual light and journey you will regain all your positive , attributes , power , respect , and abundance that your soul has been yearning for , but in a new profound light . Balancing material realm from spiritual realm can be difficult for the unevolved and evolved soul , thats why its important to learn thy self , go within , understand , the subconscious realm and hear what its trying to tell you and teach you , follow your soul not your mind your mind and you will open doors you never knew existed . Your light will be like the light house on the ocean shore in the darkness , on a vacant island , where many lost souls end up coming to find answers , knowledge , wisdom , insight and the great beacon of light to help them back on their paths . It may be other people who have 12th house placements with personal planets like mars , jupiter , venus etc .... my opinion they dont compare to having the sun in this house . The sun is your vitality , essence , urge , identity purpose , life force , inner light , true expression ( thats why leo is the sun / 5th house expression ) which gets projected from your ascendant . I look at mars , venus etc... as attributes you use while you are in this body , so when they are in the 12th house its a lost of your attributes , and help from them on a material and physical aspect , but they are used in a spiritual way they are not here to be used physically . Certain placements like mars here could make a soul very frustrated and have alot of repressed anger and energy they cant express physically , and a unevolved soul would be in bitterness and self chaos in their own head , when they just need a self outlet and way to express it mentally , spiritually or doing a good deed that takes their mental strength and inner desire . This also may bring a father that was absent , intoxicated , addicted to something or incarcerated . At first i use to look at this placement as being bad but over the years of learning , self development and understanding this placement , i overstand , the deeper meaning . You are able to focus on you , your mental , spiritual nature , hidden gifts and get a break from material obligations and be of service to others who are dealing with 12th house issues as well , mental illness and depression etc. This placement can make you be a real life psychologist , medium , clairvoyant , clairaudience , claircognizance , clairsentient , i think professor x had a 12th house sun placement the way he could use his mind , and see into future , tap into others thoughts , manipulate things , and energy and know the rest of his students powers and know how to teach them how to control and balance them. remember you are not your natal chart you are you control your own destiny and create your own reality .
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Spoilers for Hush audio
Okay. First off...
#REVIVEVEGA2K24 FUCKING WORKED LETS GOOOO
I also saw a post comparing how funny it was that Vega got revived around Easter time. And I'm far from religious and certainly not a Christian (not that there's anything wrong with that ofc I'm just about as far as you can get without worshipping satan.) But I found that really funny. But enough about that, I'm here to give my Vega drunk brain thoughts
First off, Hush wanting to hold Doc's hand is very sweet. The rat doesn't really understand physical contact really, but he knew that he needed the comfort holding their hand would provide. I'm still mad at him for killing Vega and he's certainly still in the doghouse considering the fucking cliffhanger ending that Erik left us with. But it is both cute and sad.
Also, Doc is a real one for trying to warn Hush that Vega might be mad. Honestly, I laughed at Hush being like "I'll just tell him that I killed him but brought him back and now it's fine. He'll be happy. :)" like, oh you sweet summer child. That's not how this shit works.
Now, to the part that I actually care about... V E G A
FUCK ANGRY VEGA IS SO HOT I JUST WANT HIM TO RIP OUT MY INSIDES AND MAKE ME WATCH DJJVJRJAIUVJEKJJRJGJRKDBJFJD
But in all lore-seriousness, the fact that he's missing such a large and important chunk of his life is a problem. It is kind of cool to see him suddenly trusting the word of humans when before he couldn't have given a shit. A little disappointing too, because I related to his want to just distance himself from humanity.
Also, for being my echoey T and S annunciating eloquent sadism demon, hearing him just slowly parrot Hush was almost painful. 😭
Lastly, I really hope that Vega kept telling Warden about his life. Because if they can't really help Vega, I don't think this version of Vega will bother sticking around them. He's only seeking them out because he believes they can help fix his memory gap. Unless seeing them will trigger his memories, I have very little hope. Hush does have a golden opportunity to try to impart his purpose onto Vega, while Vega's mind is this vulnerable.
Meanwhile, Doc is just here, being pulled away from their normal life by this dude who's murdered like three people either around them or told them about it, likely more, and a sadism demon who is very old, very powerful, and probably very scary. They're going to be forced to go with Hush and Vega, because Vega trusts them more than Hush and I don't see Vega letting a median between Hush and himself just leaving the situation. So I guess rip Doc's typical social life.
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lavendercrow136 · 3 months
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I swear to you, to those who have been tuning into my fanfics I will love you through it all , and Tell me this isn't goodbye love, I did not forget about you. I've been extremely busy with work, to the point of an encroaching burn out.
I'm literally exhausted all of the time, and deal with an almost daily dosage of stress that's not healthy but there's not much I can do to change it because it's part of the job.
Not only am I just so tired, but my body says we're in pain, and we would like to not move around for a while.
Socially I am just nonexistent, I have friends I have not seen or hung out with in weeks and luckily I let them know what's going on and their okay with it and understand but people can only be patient for so long.
Mental health wise is a bit of a seesaw of anxiety and depression, spiced up with insomnia and hyper-insomblance, and goblin energy.
So I guess what I'm saying is I apologize for the delay on new content, and I hope you will continue to bear with me and support me through this difficult time.
I'm hoping to be able to post new content for your viewing pleasure soon and then get back to posting content on a regular basis.
I will warn you it might be a bit before I actually get it on any sort of viewing platform, for your reading pleasure that is because I try to only ever post chapters when I'm proud of them. When I know their good, or at least think their good. AND then I post them and I hope that you all agree and enjoy.
In other news though I have not posted a new chapter for "I will love you through it all" in a hot minute I looked at my Kudos and hits today, 989 hits and 40 Kudos!! Thank you all so much for continuing to follow along and read my work, it means more then you even know, and gives me the little bit of a push I need to keep going.
I also really need to provide a large shout out to my fiance who has been putting up with my emotional ass with both support and love and patience, thank you so much baby, for loving me when it feels like the whole world around me is a hurricane trying to tear me apart you are my safe space, my home, my everything. You are the light house that keeps me from crashing into the rocks and sinking into the abyss of my own negative thoughts, I love you so much @propertyofmilfs 3 monthes till we're together again, the distance between us may be hard but my love you are entirely worth every second minute and hour of the wait, 3 monthes till I feel at home again and I have you in my arms. ❤️
ALSO this is SO Important, if anyone at all knows anyone who used to live in the USA that immigrated to the Netherlands, and is currently residing in the Netherlands, please help me get in contact with them. I'd like to be able to move to be with my fiancé but neither of us really know where to start and the websites are confusing. So if anyone has any information or knows anyone please please please help 🙏
Thank you for your patience, and as always I will update you when I have more news and chapters updates and teasers.
Love, lavendercrow136
@propertyofmilfs @barbarasstar @vii-v @o1iviac1aire @winterfireblond @larissaoftarthweems @weemssapphic @weemswife
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wingsoverbros · 9 months
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When you catch things months later...
Warning - Spoilers: for the tv show Kinnporsche, and for the Book Childhoods End
I was watching KinnPorsche and got to the scene in episode 11 when Vegas was reading on the patio, and wondered why they had him reading "Childhoods End" by Arthur C. Clark.
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I mean, I applaud his taste in literature (SciFi is always a good choice, especially very good SciFi), but why it specifically?
So I gave it good long thought, and I think I understand now.
Childhoods End is a story about transformation into something new, into a peaceful and cohesive unit with others, at the cost of your past existence and individuality. The individuals transform in the end of conflict, with some in their group choosing instead to perish rather than transform. They are also helped along the way by a companion guide species, one that looks like one thing but is truly another, a group who can accompany them but are not a part of them, and who can only watch the final transformation from a distance and hope for the best.
The book, in essence, is the map of Vegas's path forward.
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Whatever shall Vegas do? Lets contemplate it for a moment… (Feel free to ruminate over how much Kun sucks while you're at it.)
Vegas is currently the heir of the Minor Family, and thus an important figure in what is pretty much declared as the "lesser" of the two families. He's always the runner-up. This drives him to increasingly dangerous and ill-thought-out plans that inevitably fall flat. He could, if he tried working together with the Major Family (and they trusted him a little) do great things, but as it stands, neither side is willing to give in and take the first step. For peace and greater social standing of all, a guide will need to help. One that looks like one type, but is another entirely inside, one both sides can trust.
And what do you know? We have one!
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Pete -
Main Head Bodyguard to the Main Family (so, trustworthy to the Main Family while not actually being a member of the Main Family),
rumored hidden Masochist (there's the looks-like-one-thing/is-another-inside), and
Vegas's past punch dummy/future cuddle buddy (thus, trustworthy to Vegas).
He'll fit the job.
The final episode mirrors aspects of the book plot, in fact. In both, conflicts between the separate parts of the transforming group (the raid in Kinnporsche, the separation of the transforming children from the rest of humanity in Childhoods End) results in the death of some of the group (Kun and the parents/citizens of New Athens, respectively), while the separated observer (Vegas and Jan Rodricks) are counseled on the sidelines by the Guardian.
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In both, the Observer eventually decides to try to go along with their respective transformed group, no longer individually important but at relative peace and within the larger group collective, in order to keep what they have left.
Barring some unexpected sudden-onset lead poisoning, of course.
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Luckily for us, for Vegas, and for Pete, this is where the similarity ends. Instead of watching as Earth and the Observer dissolve and transform out of their future reach before leaving to return home like Overlords in Childhood's End, Pete ends the show sitting on the bed and in physical contact with Vegas, with the promise of a potential future together.
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Good thing, too, as Vegas and Pete deserve a break.
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fen-the-space-dragon · 9 months
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Middlepaw info dump cuz I’m bored. No, this will not be well organized. I’m tired and don’t have the energy to organize and also just remembered I gotta do Duolingo, but really don’t wanna… so if I mysteriously disappear, you know why. Anyways, sorry if this is rambly and/or doesn’t make any sense… I may or may not fix it later if needed
- They crave attention because they often don’t recieve a lot of it. Because they haven’t recieved much of it, tho, they aren’t too great at interacting with others… so instead of just talking to cats to get attention, they do some interesting things. Example: approaching Milkwail (quitedisasterous’ character. I absolutely love Milkwail <33) in hopes of being punted because being punted is a form of attention and any attention is good attention (spoiler: this plan failed, but in the best way possible)
- When they do get attention, they have no clue what to do with it. Social situations are not their specialty
- To make up for the lack of interacting with cats, they tend to interact with inanimate objects instead. Rocks, sticks, leaves, whatever. They’ll also just talk to nothing while staring off into the void of time and space. They have like full on convos like this and have specific objects that are their close friends. They tend to keep these ones stashed in hiding places around the territory so that others don’t accidentally mess with them or something not realizing that they have importance. (one of Middlepaw’s favorites is their emotional support shedded snake skin named Jerry. Why is it named Jerry? Cuz I said so. I really don’t know. They keep Jerry extra well hidden compared to the others)
- Middlepaw is very nonconfrontational. For example, if someone were to find one of their object friends and messed with it in some way, they wouldn’t be happy about it, but wouldn’t do anything. They’d probably just watch from a distance and be really tense the whole time and then go find it a new hiding spot the moment the cat left (btw, by “not happy,” I mean like worried, not mad. They understand that these are just objects to everyone else and don’t blame others for not seeing these things the same way they do)
- They talk to themselves and also objects and stuff and they do so both out loud and in their head, so sometimes they mix the two up… meaning they’ll occasionally talk to a cat and accidentally say things in their head and just be staring at the cat waiting for a response to something they never actually said
- They did have a family (parents and two siblings), but they just kinda disappeared one day. I’m still working out the details on this, kinda wanna wait until more canon lore about Mommyclan history comes out before I set the specifics in stone. Middlepaw has a vague idea of what happened to them, but that’s probably about the most info anyone has. Middlepaw also just kinda tried to pretend nothing had happened. This is all subject to change tho. I’ll prob make another post about this once I solidify the details and stuff. Or maybe not, idk. We’ll see
- They’re 10 moons old
- Uhhhhhhhh… more fun facts…. Middlepaw loves mints. They found one once and absolutely loved it
Aaand that’s all I can think of rn. I might do another later if I think of more stuff idk. If you read this, thank you! I appreciate your interest in my ‘lil cat ^^
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ladypeonies · 2 years
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MileApo and the test of distance.
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I stated here why, it’s important to be cautious and not to be too invested in actors’ relationship and BL actors in particular. Please read that post first for some context. MileApo come from the same ecosystem. It doesn’t matter if they met ten years ago, their bond flourished under the bubble. It doesn’t mean it’s not genuine, but it was formed under particular circumstances. In this post, it’s basically, everything seems great with MileApo, what could go wrong, and I focus on one particularity of a relationship born in such conditions.  
One of the risks of such relationships is co-dependency.Here is the best definition I have found of it.
[A co-dependent person is someone who has trouble functioning on their own and whose thinking and behaviour are instead organised around another person, process, or substance. Therefore, many people who are co-dependent place a lower priority on their own needs, while being excessively preoccupied with the needs of others. Co-dependency can occur in any type of relationship, including family, work, friendship, and also romantic, peer or community relationships.]
I have heard male and female after one of those bubble relationships say thing like, ‘I was with them and I forget myself. I was lost, I didn’t remember who I was anymore without that relationship, etc.
Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying MileApo are co-dependent. I’m saying, they developed a relationship under circumstances where many end up codependent. And a bit of distance would help avoid that fate. I’m not being negative but realistic. I enjoy MileApo relationship but I’m realistic enough to look at where it could go wrong. Being realistic doesn’t mean one wishes for something bad to happen, far from it. And observing it doesn’t mean I possess the TRUTH.
As I stated here, I love the understanding, the way they built their relationship and above all the trust. Because to achieve what they did in KinnPorsche trust was fundamental. It’s something few people possess in their industry, and I mean worldwide. The intensity of what they went through, all of it tightened their bond.
Fans can clearly see that their relationship doesn’t look like a 1.5-year-old one but more like a relationship of five to ten years. That’s because they spent so much time together, in such close proximity, in a very short period of time.
But like any relationship above all one which had to grow under such circumstances, they would need to pass the test if not of time yet, but at least distance and separation. Why? To test their bond and make it a healthier one. They can’t live in a bubble forever. The distance allows each one to assess their needs and their priorities, think about themselves, take care of themselves, and focus on themselves. And it helps reveal if they’re in a co-dependent relationship. When I’m talking about distance, I mean separation not only for a few days but perhaps weeks.
I don’t think people realise how much time they spend together, with the packed schedule they had since KP started airing, even before. They spent long hours shooting magazine covers, interviews, radio, etc. And on top of that they chose to spend a lot of their free time together. I don’t even count the phone calls. They clearly enjoy shopping, talking, eating out and of that time spent together out of schedules they remain very private. I think we barely see 10%, surely less and if they weren’t as active as they are on social media, fans wouldn’t have any crumbs of that time together. And I think as time goes by, they could be even more secretive, to avoid dramas and ridiculous stories.
The test of distance with MileApo will have to wait. I feel at this point they’re so accustomed to each other that, they’re clearly not ready for that distance.
Why do I say that? Let’s go back to the world tour press conference.
Do you remember that time? The atmosphere around them, they had spent most of the day together, to prepare that press conference, rehearsed their song, etc. And yet they behaved like they hadn’t seen each other for a long time, the giddiness, the joy. It’s like they didn’t want to be separated. It was a bit out of their usual behaviour, don’t you think? They were still professional, they always are. But one minute they were encouraging each other to listen, the next they were whispering things to each other. At first, I thought they were probably excited for the world tour and to share the news with fans, but still.
However, when we learned that Mile went abroad for a few days soon after that conference, well their attitude can be compared IMHO to separation anxiety. They were going to miss each other and that explains the behaviour for me which was a bit out of the ordinary.  
Then while being away there was Mile soap opera. BibleApofirstwin was trending, he fought for some time with fans, in all good fun, of course, fans fought back. He replied to 154 tweets (fans counted). Fans were calling him out because they believed he was having a tantrum over BibleApo. I mean the man was posting sad songs about a lover choosing someone else. Some said he was trying to cover for girlfriend gate which is absurd. With ten tweets he could have done that.
Also, Mile has ammunition for this kind of scandal. With one tweet he could have annihilated any scandal. With one picture, video of him and Apo he could have sent the fandom screaming and ordering wedding gifts. He could have used the MileApo bond and brand as a shield. The fact he didn’t use it as a distraction, shows that girlfriend gate was baseless.
In my opinion, he was also acting up because Apo was totally ignoring his soap opera. Fanservice? Maybe, but why use so much energy when five tweets would have done the job? And he was on vacation.
And comes the IG live on the 17/06 when Mile is back in Thailand. MileApo remained professional during that live but please, the smiles, the looks. It had only been a few days of separation but look how they reacted, priceless. And the soap opera continued.
Do they look like people who can cope with three months’ separation to you? Apo had to say hello twenty times and Mile wanted Apo to ask HIM how he felt, as if he had been invited to the live in the first place. And the giddiness. Apo was trying to hide his ‘joy’ and when Bible was talking, he was looking down which it isn’t something he usually does.
And I’m sure even if they didn’t do visio they did communicate when Mile was away, because it’s them.  
I mean COVID couldn’t keep Apo away from his P’Mile. You know how many people could have been able to bring Mile his medicine? Apo needed to go and knew he was needed and nothing and no one could have stopped him. I’m sure he was told to stay away just in case.
If Someone gives them a challenge not to speak to each other for 24 hours, they would fail miserably at this stage. They would ask if emails counted or Line.
They aren’t ready for distance. They have another project after the world tour apparently, it could be anything, a series, a travel vlog, etc. I mean why not? They work well together, they have great chemistry, they know each other so well. Mile said, ‘It’s fun to work with Apo,’ same for Apo. Meaning also we aren’t ready to be separated yet.Good news more MileApo and more MileApo in the future.
Could their bond still prosper even without the test of distance? Yes, but I think it takes more time and would be more complicated, and it needs a lot of self-analysis and reflection. But if people can do that, it’s them. They know how to work on a relationship and make it flourish.
But who knows, perhaps after the tour they’ll have time off and one will go to the mountains and the other one to the sea. Or they’ll find a place with mountains by the sea.
They have built a great bond, but even the greatest bond is fragile, above all if isn’t protected and tended. Observe attentively, look closely, get inspired by them, learn from their mistakes but don’t forget perfection isn’t a human trait.
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do you have any advice for being a good partner in a relationship? i'm in high school if that helps give some perspective
man to be honest i have all kinds of advice but i can't say if any of it is good! because i've been the one to break up all my relationships (4-5 now depending on how you look at it) so it's entirely possible that i'm a bad partner and have unrealistic expectations? but i can try!!!
i myself as a partner try to be as attentive as possible - i always wish someone would pay close attention to me and what i like and how i react to things so i try to be that person for someone else, learning as much about my partner as i can in order to be a better partner to them, and going out of my way to show my understanding of them and that i care about them specifically. learning what they're like when they're hiding discomfort, what they're like when they're vacillating between excitement and anxiety, what they're like when they feel totally at peace and safe, and more than all of that: what they need &/or want from you in those situations. showing you pay attention to your partner and want to learn them inside and out is in my opinion the number one way to show them you care about them (whatever the nature of your relationship!)
no two relationships have ever been the same for me - i don't really think of my partner as the person who occupies a specific predictable category of relationship in my life the way my mother or coworker might - it's much more like friendships where the word friendship is an extremely broad term used to describe all kinds of individual-basis relationships. what i mean by saying that is, don't fall in love with someone because you want a partner, fall in love with someone because you want *them*. one of my relationships fell apart because it became clear to me that it didn't actually matter who i was, my partner just wanted a girlfriend so he could be someone who has a girlfriend.
when it comes to conflict i frankly used to have advice on this but my last relationship proved to me that i was a coward and a hypocrite and the advice i would always give is not very easy to follow if you're not very brave. communication is important but things get complicated. i really no longer feel like i have enough perspective on solving conflict to offer any advice. don't ever lead anyone on though, if you feel like it's over don't keep it going for their sake.
also, i'll say this: dating while you're in school is the toughest thing in the world of dating, because think about it this way: if you live on your own in some city apartment or whatever and you go to your job or your college classes and you have freedoms and you meet someone at a cafe or whatever and fall in love and then date, if you break up with that person, there's a not-insignificant chance you might literally never have to see them again. relationship and friendship pains in school are exacerbated twentyfold by the fact that it's impossible to get tangible distance from anybody you know. my ex and i sit next to eachother in econ and have to work on projects together - even though outside of that class we're not talking. it makes for the most painful and awkward dating situations you'll probably ever find yourself in. so know this: you'll have the freedom someday to choose new people to spend your time on and with. just bc right now you're forced to spend almost every day with the same hundred other people in your school doesn't mean your social circle is always going to be so fixed!!!
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latina4rmbx · 2 months
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I Can Buy Myself Flowers...
Sometimes I need to figure my shit out. Sometimes I take so long to figure my shit out that it loses it's luster. I've been pondering this post for a bit and it's learned me a few things:
I need to charge my laptop. As I lay in bed, stroke of insight comes to me, but if I pick up my phone, I'm going straight to social media and there goes my insight. At least with my laptop I don't have social media embedded in any of the apps, I think, and I can get what I need to get off my chest.
I sometimes over/underestimate myself and it's to my own detriment
I was in an extreme emotional state yesterday with no real outlet. I had no reason to cry but I felt that ache or that hollow in my chest. I even asked a friend for a sad movie suggestion so I can get it out. I still haven't seen the movie
I know I've said this before, and I guess I will repeat it until I understand, you really don't realize the impact you make/have made on a persons life sometimes. If you're lucky, people will give you your flowers while you're still here
This is a great segue into the whole reason we're here...
Yesterday I posted a Meme that reads: Her: I ordered us new phone cases. The fucking phone cases (if I can add the pic here I will) then I wrote: Me as a GF. Let me just try to post this thing because 1. it was the catalyst and 2. I think it truly sums me up as a GF and 3. It's cute AF. Take in the entire post lol
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An ex-boyfriend reaches out to me to make a joke about the phone cases.
His joke: "This was us but I had more ass than you."
In case you were wondering what my response was...this is the lead up to the crux of this AM post. From here on out I'm going to refer to him as Guy. Another person comes into play and I'll call them Man.
Me: But that's a real message I sent to a real man who probably has more ass than I do too 😂 I haven't checked it out enough. We haven't done sexy time yet 😃
Guy: Whaaaaaat (I didn't count the A's but there were quite a few)
Me: Stop it
Guy: This is real?! Not a drill ?!?
A little more chatting about Man
Guy: Ok well he gets you. That's important
Here is where the mood changes. Up to this point we were laughing, well Guy was laughing at my antics (because I be antic-ing)
Me: Well we don't see each other much cuz life be lifin' the shit out of us but it's good lol. Thanks for inquiring about the drills.
Side Note: He speaks to me in voice note after a bit so I'll have to transcribe. I'll do it verbatim but I KNOW I will cry.
Guy: Good speaking to you again. Instead of us, just sending funny videos to each other... Though I like that too.
Me: Thank you for being everything.
Me: I'm really lucky I met you Guy. I hope you know that. Good or bad you always have a special place in my heart
Guy: Can I say: Ditto. One day I'll be able to put into words what our time together has meant and always meant to me
Me: It's not necessary. I appreciate it anyway
Guy: Well I think people need to get their flowers!!!!
See the correlation to the title now?
Me: I do too & life is shorter than we realize.
Here's where his voice notes start. There are only 2 but each is about a min long so it may take some time (& Coffee) to transcribe. I did not respond to him in VN form. As a matter of fact the conversation between him and I's portion will end with my first response, then I'll move on to something else. It'll make sense
VN1: No, I I I mean that in all truthfulness. Uhm, people deserve their flowers cause you never know when somebody's gonna go or somebody saying I'm never going to talk to you ever again. So, No I wanted to always tell you thank you because I wasn't always uhm I dunno. I guess life gives you perspective once you get some distance and time. I'm not trying to speak deep or like philosophical. It's just one of those things where you know. I remember being young. I remember, you know, being infatuated with you and not knowing how to handle that and also not knowing how to handle when I had unfinished business or you know uhm. There were so many things I was learning on the fly. It's like flying a plane and fixing the wing while you're flying it. I should've just landed the plane and learned my lesson.
VN2: But even when I was flying the plane, so to speak, or hanging out with you uhm, I always wanted to thank you. I mean, you know, there were times that, you know, I really made you feel like shit and I'm sorry. And there's times there, you know, where you and I were at odds for whatever reason, and you know. I wasn't always great, you know. I learned a lot from you. I learned about forgiveness, and I learned about, you know, about how to truly love somebody or what to have when you truly love somebody. Or that so much, that that that our multiple interactions have taught me. From the beginning all the way to the last one. And it was so fun in a weird way to have you in my apartment that day when we were saying good bye to T. And that was kinda like uh, if this was a sitcom, and that was the last episode, it'd be a good one.
Me: The one where we said good bye
If you didn't get it, my response is a nod to ye olde show "Friends."
Here's where it gets interesting/sad, I was crying typing that response to Guy. However, I went to the counsel, which is 2 people. 1 who knows him and one who doesn't. I'm going to only share the conversation with the one who doesn't know him because it was sweet, our back and forth. For the sake of consistency they will be dubbed, C1 (LOL - is that consistent?). Ok, ok, Lady. She'll be dubbed Lady. As in, I spoke to the Lady
Me: Listen to this. It's my ex boyfriend & THIS made me cry.
Lady: Awww O
Me: You know how you feel like you didn't mean anything to someone and then you find out you meant everything. This did it for me. Bad timing. But when the timing was right...It was too late. He broke up with his GF and I had broken up with *CENSORED*. We were ripe for the picking but it didn't feel...the same.
Lady: Yes I now the feeling
Lady: At least you now know you meant something big to him
Me: Yeah. It's comforting
Me: I always wondered if I was doing love wrong
That's it. Not the end of the conversation but the point that he was helping me with, without even being aware. I always wondered if I was doing love wrong. Craziness because some people never think of love in terms of something to consider or work on, it's just what they feel or do. But what does that mean? To feel love. What does it mean to DO love? You know.
Lady: I don't think you've ever done love wrong. Just was given to the wrong people at the wrong time because as a friend you are very loveable and you're giving, attentive
Me: Thank you
Me: I had to work on the friendship love too
Lady: No need to thank me for the truth
Me: I know I used to do friendship wrong
Lady: Well I'm glad I get the best of you ❤️❤️
That was literally the end of hers and I's conversation.
In the other conversation I mention feeling validated. I think this is the part that kept me up half the night. Why did I need him or anyone to validate me? Then it clicked, I value his opinion of me. He's one of the very few people who can tell me "O, it's not a good look." He does it with such a pure and true heart. It doesn't hurt when he's putting me in my place. Again, I'm speaking as a friend here, not as a lover. That ship has sailed a long time ago. Two years ago, when we reconnected through mutual heartbreak, solidified it.
We were GREAT as lovers and being in love but we're sooooo much better as champions for each other. We cheer each other one from the sidelines. I guess that's what happens when time and distance give us perspective.
Thank you readers for reading. I truly appreciate you taking any moment out of your day to read through my posts.
I can buy myself flowers...But why would I have to?
XOXO
Thanks for Reading
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dcbicki · 2 years
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Hi! I’ll be honest I watch almost all tv while playing games on my little phone bc my brain is rotted 😌
So I missed the Romeo imagery! Would you mind going into it more, it sounds so interesting. If you don’t want to that’s fine but pls know that I love your blog 🤍
Understandable, anon. There’s nothing wrong with a little brainrot. And ty! ❤️
First off, I wrote a whole essay on how Season 3 played with the Romeo & Juliet archetype and how it applies to Mike & El shortly after the season dropped – as satire, mind. It was never intended to be taken seriously; was just food for thought because my brain was salivating over the parallels.
Textually, we’re presented with Dustin saying the thing – “it’s all a bit Shakespearean. Like Romeo and Juliet. Star-crossed lovers” – just as Mike and El slip out of frame. And when they reappear in the next shot, a wide shot to emphasize the creation of distance, they’re alone, now separate from the others. On-screen, they’re physically isolated. The plan is to run off and spend quality time together, regardless of their friends’ feelings on the matter.
Subtextually, this isolation is more emotional than literal. Really, what they’ve done is put distance between their loved-ones and their love for one another; the two things don’t yet coexist. They’ve not mastered the art of juggling romance with friendship. These types of relationships are of equal importance, but they’re fourteen and in love for the first time ever – expecting hormonal teenagers, when one of them is far from your typical girl next door and doesn’t have a clean grasp of social norms to begin with, to manage their free time so well feels a little unreasonable.
So we let them off the hook, for a time, the way we don’t let Romeo and Juliet off. The play is, I guess depending on how you interpret it, written as a satire about the foolhardiness of young love. ‘Stranger Things’ isn’t that. Mike and El’s relationship isn’t that. They’re not a cautionary tale. The words ‘star-crossed’ spoken on screen as they seemingly choose one another over everybody else is, if anything, ironic. It's not a surefire sign that they’re doomed — I peg that belief down to how loosely the term is thrown about because it’s so overused in media.
‘Star-crossed’ has many meanings, but in their case specifically it refers to the fact they weren’t fated to meet. It wasn’t the universe’s plan – For a show called “Stranger Things” it only seems appropriate the core romance exists by mere chance. A happy accident. Mike says as much in Season 4: “It’s not fate. It’s not destiny. It’s just simple dumb luck.” Keep in mind, this is the same Mike who starts the series as an idealist, an optimist. Mike, who’s lovestruck and supposedly falls for a girl upon seeing her. Sound like anybody familiar? Mike is a classic romantic character – avid book readers, you get what I’m saying – and who is more romantic than the Montague boy who gets a whole archetype named after him? Only the difference between the two is that Mike is afforded the privilege of growing up, and maturing – something his counterpart never experiences.
At surface level, Mike is easy to get: he’s nice, and he’s protective over his friends, but he can be a bit of a jerk sometimes. In truth, he’s a lot more complex than that, which might explain why so many people seem to have trouble understanding or sympathizing with him now that he’s come more into his own. Mike fills a stereotypically feminine role within the story, supporting the (traditionally male) hero, while also serving as the love interest for the female protagonist within her coming-of-age story. He has to be the nurturing, caregiver to the hero and be her suitor. That’s… an anomaly, especially when the character is written so young. But Mike is aware of both of these roles: he’s been there for El since the start, and never hesitates to be her support system when she needs it. His struggle, however, has always been living up to the romantic standards that he sets for himself. He’s never quite sure how to express his feelings because, really, there’s no precedent, no roadmap on how to love a supernaturally-gifted neurodivergent abuse survivor. He’s in the dark. He has no male role model to look up to for guidance. Throw in insecurities and feelings of unworthiness, no doubt fueled by the fact that the person he wants more than anything is super-worthy, and suddenly it’s lights-out when it comes to Mike giving a long-winded declaration of love until… Cue the stoner and the pizza oven.
We’re in a moment of crisis, it’s looking like the world’s about to end, but then… suddenly… there it is… a glimmer of hope… just behind Mike, in the greasy, warmly-lit back kitchen of a pizza chain restaurant in the middle of mumblefuck Nevada… a Montague pizza oven. Does the name ring a bell?
Now here’s the thing: I wrote that essay in 2019 as a joke, mostly for myself because I found it funny and it didn’t matter if anybody else even read it. But then we get to the Season 4 finale, and Argyle says, “Surf’s up, Romeo” just as Mike’s about to say something no-doubt both corny and perfect-to-El’s-ears, and I – who have been on this hill for like four years now – yell at the screen, “You motherfucker!” So I grin and I shake my head, but I let it go because we’ve got bigger shit to worry about – the salt bath is ready, after all. And then the episode continues, and our boy finally gives his whole spiel in a blur of flickering lights and banging score, and I move on. The episode ends and we wait for Season 5.
Until one day, I get a little too bored and I analyse the hell out of every frame in that particular scene, and I’m not too proud to say I let out a shriek when I see it. Mike’s giving this impassioned monologue about how much he loves El, meanwhile the literary character he’s essentially emulating is behind him the whole time; in last name only, sure, but it’s there, and that can’t be a coincidence. If it is, that is a strange fucking thing indeed.
From that point on, I can’t unsee it, so naturally I tweet about it, and reddit gets wind of it, and then the people – you know the ones – who won’t let two characters so much as blink without taking it out of context get a hold of it, and suddenly it’s like I’ve taken Mike & El out to the back of the barn to be shot dead between the eyes. Because, uh, apparently having the name of perhaps the most infamous fictional lover of all time in frame during a declaration of love, shortly after the person uttering said declaration has just been teasingly nicknamed it, is supposed to be a bad thing?
It’s almost like the people who took this out of context didn’t understand that Mike and El’s relationship isn’t a clear copy-paste of the star-crossed archetype – if they ever even picked up on it in the first place — I guarantee they didn’t. There’s no doom and gloom. There’s no (lasting) death trope. There’s the defiance of stars because they quite literally stumbled on each other in the woods and they have to work at romance, at conquering roadblocks and meddling fathers (which is a whole other thing I could get into) and the universe seems to want to keep them apart.
But the thing is, we know what they’ve been through. We’re supposed to understand their plight because we’ve had four seasons of it now; you’re either on board at this point or not. You know that their trauma precedes whatever selfishness they may display – in past seasons and going forward – because you’ve witness it firsthand. They grow as individuals and as a pair because of their choices, unlike Romeo and Juliet whose death is the consequence of poor decision-making.
Mike isn’t compared to Romeo, in dialogue or even subtextually, because he’s a lovestruck idiot who lets his feelings guide him. He’s hopelessly in love and starts off as a doe-eyed idealist, sure, but he now has the maturity and self-awareness of someone who’s been given the time to think about what love truly means and how to make room for it — to not let it become all-consuming.
He might believe in love at first sight, but he’s under no illusions that the love he has for El was anything but a choice he made. He chose to help her, just as he chooses to continuously love her despite everything telling him not to, despite everything standing in their way. Suggesting their meeting was simply dumb luck and not destiny at work implies the added belief that things happen outside of their control and still… he chose to take her home that night. Fuck fate.
That’s the Romeo thing.
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septembersghost · 1 year
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genuine question and not at all a gotcha or anything, I'm wondering this for myself as well - if/when she splits from the rat, do we go back to normal? is the damage done? I love her and her music so much and don't want to lose that, but I'm hurt right now, so is it hypocritical to want to keep that? to keep posting her? not to sound insane but I don't know what the best choice is here.
there was a post in the sub that touched my heart about how rare it is to see huge groups of women happy and excited together, and i mention it not only because it's sweet, but because i think it's important, and also speaks to why the fandom is upset right now. we love sharing something together and having a community and an escape. we love having something connective and that resonates so deeply for us. and i think we don't want other fans, marginalized women especially, to feel shut out. it's just something to keep in mind about why her music is special to us.
you're asking valid questions for anyone who IS upset, and i don't know the answer. i don't think there is one singular answer, because we're all different and making our own decisions. some people are upset and distancing, some people are upset but still posting content (totally understandable imho because many fans love the community and supporting creators too, and that's a part of the experience. fans make the most beautiful edits/gifs here and it makes me happy to see them, so...do i take that away from myself and those people, and to what end if it doesn't really make a difference? which it doesn't. plus reblogging content isn't monetizing anything. it all comes down to personal choices and comfort levels here), and you know...we're human and nobody's perfect and most of us are trying to have fun in our cozy little online spaces. not posting doesn't necessarily affect anyone but you. is it making you sadder not to? or do you need some time away? any response there is okay.
for the record, i don't expect her to be perfect either! i personally have never demanded political stances from her, as she is a musician and celebrity, she is not an activist. i don't expect any artist (or any human) to be perfect, as i've said before, if i demanded unimpeachable behavior, i couldn't be a fan of anyone ever. no one could. i typically think we should be better at understanding flaws, forgiving mistakes when possible, and lending grace and empathy to people - to each other, to artists, and find the humanity and the good there. there are occasions where that becomes untenable. she is nowhere near that point herself. what fans are struggling with here is a specific disconnect, while the majority of criticism lands on him. it's impossible to say what we'll feel in the future. it's just raw right now.
and yeah, being concerned about this isn't activism. yeah, it's easier to be mad at a singular schmuck than it is to combat systemic oppression or social issues on a wide scale. i don't think anyone voicing an opinion here is confused about that. they're feeling an emotional response to gross actions/commentary, and that's okay to express. it's no substitute for any other action, and i don't want to say anyone is hypocritical in their approach. plenty of fans are voicing their concerns while still participating in the fandom and listening to songs and that's fine. like...at the end of the day, she's an extremely famous pop musician we enjoy who doesn't know we exist. your blog is your own. it's whatever you're comfortable with and makes you happy. whatever you want to do is the right thing, and if anyone judges you for it, that's their problem.
for my part, i'm doing my best and playing this day-by-day, the break i needed is because i'm overly sensitive, and seeing/hearing directly from other people who are hurting breaks my heart, and that took priority. i know what it's like to feel as though something dear to you has been damaged, and how you just yearn to get that comfort back, and it has stirred up some other assorted stuff for me. it doesn't mean i'm leaving. it doesn't change what she's meant to me for fifteen years or the many times she's given me joy and solace in the darkest moments. that's all still true. i know i keep saying this, but the music will always be there and its inherent meaning is unchanged. whatever is happening or might happen doesn't diminish that.
tl;dr you're not a hypocrite for loving something that has been so significant to you for so long and wanting to hold onto it.
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persnickett · 1 year
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💫what is your favorite kind of comment/feedback?
🌿how does creating make you feel?
🍉in what ways has writing helped you process trauma and/or navigate through your own life?
💎why is writing important to you?
🎙️which one of your fics would you like someone to make a pod-fic of?
Ooh yay fun! Thanks for the ask ❤️ I dig how this reads kind of like an interview... let's go!
💫what is your favorite kind of comment/feedback?
I honestly do cherish and value any kind of feedback, even just the quick comments that say “I loved this!” But of course I love to hear *what* about a story particularly stood out to people. Every reader reads a story differently and maybe it’s the psychology major in me but each brain processing the same story in a different way is endlessly interesting to me lol. I also like to hear what you were doing when you read my story or what time of night it was and other reader experience stuff. I’ve had people tell me they read my fic on a beach or in an airport and it’s just so lovely thinking about your fic touching people’s lives in different ways you didn’t expect. I think my favourite thing to hear though is when someone tells me that my fic made them happy or soothed/distracted them from illness or pain. Authors work really hard on their stories and most love talking about the process with fellow writers and readers who are interested in any of all the granular details, so probably any feedback is lovely and motivating to get, but hearing that always sort of makes all the effort feel like it is worthwhile and doing something real and helpful in the world.
🌿how does creating make you feel?
Oh god. Mainly self-conscious and insecure that nothing I produce is ever good enough, probably lol.
🍉in what ways has writing helped you process trauma and/or navigate through your own life? I was hoping somebody would ask this one! <3 I find writing to be a very useful psychological exercise and consequently quite helpful in navigating life. I’m a character driven writer and writing is an opportunity for me to put myself in somebody else’s shoes for a while. Since I’m obsessed with characterization and getting to know the characters I am working with, for me this goes beyond imagining myself in a certain circumstance that others might have had to go through. I also imagine how *that* person, with the personality traits I imagine them to have, would react to things. It’s given me a lot of reflection and insight into how other people of different personality types or backgrounds might see the world or think about things, and has made me better at understanding, relating to, and having patience with other humans and the things they do in my day to day life. <3 Which, as an introvert who wouldn’t necessarily find this stuff out by interacting with as many people as possible every day over the course of their life, I can tell you, is pretty interesting and bloody helpful.
💎why is writing important to you?
This one struck me as really funny coming on the heels of my response to🌿but obviously I get something out of it, because after over 10 years I am still here! I think I probably answered some of it above, but I think in many ways it’s just simply a need. I’ve had stories that would not stop screaming my head until I caved in and started writing them. Writing is a performance art to me, I create stories to share them with people and I guess I gravitate to fanfic instead of attempting published work partially because of the interaction I get back from that ‘audience’. Really getting to feel like I know I reached them and making them feel so much more real to me. I always find myself thinking how an audience will receive a story when I’m writing it, so I suppose it’s a creative outlet as well as a way of connecting with people (yet introverted as mentioned, and distanced from the pressures and social anxiety of directly interacting with people. Not feeling like I am on the spot, and having the time to think about what I want to say and then plan, write it out, and edit it properly - rather than having to spit it out quick in a conversation and hope you get it right and people understand it instead of just thinking it’s weird - has always appealed to me. I always enjoyed writing my friends long notes and letters for instance when I was younger, and I much prefer an email to a phone conversation at work lol).
I’ve also just always been a language person, in terms of us all having different skills and strengths – I’ve always been interested in learning languages and linguistics, and I’m even a singer as another hobby of mine, Taurus being the ruler of the throat chakra and vocal cords etc. if you believe stuff like that – and it’s nice to feel like you get to spend some time in your day doing the things you are best at. I guess writing makes me feel like I’m sort of contributing something, whatever value it or I may have, to the universe. Rather than just chugging about the business of making cash to feed myself and continue my inconsequential human existence lol. Not to get like, dark or anything about it. 🥳 *waves hands* Y'all know what I mean. 
🎙️which one of your fics would you like someone to make a pod-fic of? Nobody’s ever made me a pod-fic, and to be honest I think I pity anybody who might want to try! My sentences are run-on and parenthetical and convoluted, and probably incorrectly punctuated. I go out of my way to use obscure and polysyllabic vocabulary because I think it’s funny, and even make up my own words and portmanteaus. Friends call it snicklish. But it’s probably a real G.D. B. to read aloud (hopefully only aloud). Maybe that’s why nobody has ever tried! lol So I don’t know, I can’t really think of one that would lend itself any better than my others. And as I've mentioned I'm character and language driven and I think I'm funny, so a lot of my stories are chock full of banter, and character voice antics. I really do hear the characters in my head in very distinct and specific ways that feel super important to their characterization and I put ages of thought and effort getting them 'right' and getting that across to the reader in a way that I hope feels right to them too, so it would feel both really really potentially interesting, but also really apprehensive to think of having somebody else voice them, I think. So I guess I will answer this one with throwing a question back out there. To anyone with experience with podfics – either receiving one or making one – pros/cons? What would you say an author or a podficcer needs to know about them before they try it out? Thank you, this was fun! (and yes, @dream0fspring, I have more of these to answer. so stay tuned!❤️)
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funkymbtifiction · 2 years
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Are there any examples or blank spaces in particular events where Fe users, not Dom or unhealthy dom could defy social norms?
I've observed fi users in my life, seem to care about social propriety or politeness and as an Fe user me withdrawing and not liking the way the situation or people are behaving or accepting just for the sake of going along with it. I really seem the odd one out nowadays.
So was just wondering in what cases and for what cognitive processes Fe vs Fi act differently and completely opposite their stereotype? This truly is one of the hardest function differences to pin down for me because the only way i understand nuances of it is that it's like a pathway, from self to other is fi, others to self is Fe.
I read in one of your posts, FPs can emphasise their individuality, their feelings and judgements they form from it while FJs seek to think and work up positively the group dynamics. There are also cases where I'm aware even when i don't wish to of the differences between me and others, this is new, esp about social, financial background, political and spiritual beliefs, etc. So is it possible that as an Fe user, one can emphasise individuality too, or don't see all people as one but liking the idea of it and aware of the incongruence in the reality and hoping to connect and be all one and healed and healthy and change the societal norms and ways of being? I feel tuned out to see the differences but i accept disharmony. So for fe users, is it okay to at times, esp at homes or with people whose ways they disapprove of..make one behave what is described in an example as an fi way? Or is it just unhealthy self centred Fe?
Also if others, fi users could be socially appropriate and care for the others not out of "i don't want this to happen to me.." kinda thing, is it bcoz of culture or gender origins at play?
People are complicated and rarely fit into a box -- much of what is attributed to Fe can show up in a social-first Fi user (caring about how others are reacting to them, adapting to them) and the same goes for Fe users being able to distance themselves from others and prioritize their own interests in life when it counts. FJs are capable of going against social norms for a good cause (Martin Luther King), and Fi users will go along with things to keep the peace sometimes, abandoning themselves in the process. So when determining the difference you have to look at the motivation behind it, whether the person struggles to easily articulate their emotions, and what their social stacking and Enneagram type is. A social 9 EFP can seem 'soft' like a Fe, without making decisions through a lens of "us." And a hexad not-social-first can seem blunt and assertive, unlike the stereotypes about Fe's just wanting everyone to be happy.
What you describe in your second-to-last paragraph would be healthy Fe -- being aware of others' need for space and allowing them to be individuals while hoping for their collective healing as a person, and choosing through how they behave to set an example.
I am always socially appropriate, because I find it respectful of others and their feelings and needs, and I am a Fi. I rarely think about not wanting it to happen to me, and think about it in terms of "is this right/wrong, kind/unkind?" instead. I can tolerate a great deal out of people without approving of them and remain friends with others whom I disagree with on important issues, although it's hard for me to give them distance sometimes and not press my opinions.
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Like Jonathan not telling Nancy that he doesn't want to go to Emerson is entirely on him but also why didn't he tell Nancy? (This is the conflict they use to keep Jonathan in Cali, but they didn't really need it, there were plenty of reasons for him to stay and Nancy to go. Like this is where they could have built on Nancy not really understanding Jonathan's struggles in season 3.) I believe the reason that the show gives is that Jonathan doesn't want Nancy to change her plans for college, and then resent him for it. Ok. I've seen people who don't like Jancy say this is evidence that Jonathan doesn't really understand Nancy because she would never change her plans for him. There are two points I want to make here. This was in the 80s, long distance, especially coast to coast would be difficult. 2 of my friends are doing long distance at the moment and they struggle a lot (Like emotionally, like with missing each other and stuff, as far I as I know, the relationship is doing well) even with social media because it's different than living in the same town. Like they have Facetime, text messages. And while it probably wasn't impossible to keep a long distance relationship thriving in the 80s, it's not going to be easy, especially coast to coast as college students. So it makes sense that Nancy might want to change her college plans to make it easier on the relationship. (Do I personally think that Nancy would? No, she's too certain in what she wants to change it for anyone. But that's why I think Jonathan might think that.) And the second thing is, why is it Nancy's dream school that is the option here? If they wanted to go to college together, wouldn't they have talked out some of their options? Like how did that conversation go down that Jonathan felt that he couldn't tell Nancy that he wasn't interested in Emerson or leaving the west coast at all? It's still on Jonathan that he didn't tell Nancy that he wasn't interested in going to Emerson but it also reflects on Nancy that he didn't feel comfortable enough to tell her that he didn't want to go initially.
YES like there are plenty of reasons for him to stay and her to go. you’re right tho like why didn’t he tell her - i get that she probs wouldn’t understand his reasoning BUT this is something that is going to come out either way. honesty i feel like that’s more not about understanding nancy and more about just miscommunication/his own insecurities. YOU ARE SO RIGHT WITH THESE POINTS!! starting about long distance - yep yep yep! in the 80s long distance would be even more difficult as we also see present with dustin and suzie. dustin had to go on the Cerbero on top of a hill to just communicate with suzie (i think that’s how you spell it for her) like that’s sooo exhausting to keep doing that. in season 4 he doesn’t exactly do that but it’s still a complicated way! and like you said even in today’s society long distance is hard!!!
yeah i don’t understand either why nancy’s dream school is an option and more important WHEN WE DIDNT EVEN KNOW THAT SHE WANTED TO GO THERE UNTIL THIS SEASON! with jonathan joyce says HIS dream school in season 1 so we’ve known that jonathan has wanted to go to that school for a while - of course that was in season 1 and the UD and bejng in cali might have changed that but compared to nancy we’ve known what jonathan’s wanted to do with his life prior to season 4!
YES it absolutely reflects on nancy that jonathan didn’t feel comfortable telling her! idk i feel like people should pay more attention or what this says with their relationship instead of that one comment about jonathan not wanting nancy to change her dreams for him because the fact that jonathan NEVER felt comfortable to tell nancy the truth even after he comes back to hawkins with everything a wreck and knowing nancy could have died says a lot more glaring things about their relationship
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