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daisy-mooon · 4 days
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I always hate exploring fandom for media about female rage and instead of any discussion about female rage, all I see are aesthetic mood boards and jokes about simping. Call me crazy or whatever tf but it feels like fandom prefers female rage as an aesthetic about emotionlessly wiping blood across your face in a pretty way and doesn't actually like thinking about women or rage.
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Am I the only one who thinks that it's okay for people to not like the canon female love interests of M/M ships? Even if it's because of that? Like, I could see where you're coming from, but so many het non-canon ship's fans hate the male love interests.
Just for examples:
Harmione Shippers with Ron
Jacella shippers with Edward (and also probably Bedward shippers with Jacob too back in the day)
Gale x Katniss (don't know the ship name sawry) with Peeta
And also, this kind of thing just happens so much rarer with gay ships than het ships. Like the average gay shipper of wolfstar or whatever will love the canon female love interest just think she's the wrong fit (I have met many a lesbian wolfstar shipper with a crush on Tonks) while I can absolutely not say that about ships like Harmione. The minority can exist. They're not doing anything illegal.
The only time I can kind of -- kind of -- see it is the Perachel -- Percabeth thing (and that's not even gay). This is because Percabeth shippers that hate on Rachel are often the first people to say that Luke was redeemed despite him being just as much of a boundary to Percabeth as Rachel was, if not more. If anyone was blamed for that, it was more often that not Annabeth.
Even so, this can still be explained by character bias. Rachel was only in the last one and a half books, and was very much a side character, having very little to do with the main plot. Her arc was small, and she existed mainly to create drama. Luke, however, was not only present throughout all five books, being introduced at around the same time as Annabeth, but had an extremely long and complex character arc that wasn't just related to the main plot, but was one of them.
So ye leave the gays be
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Some people wouldn't know a well-written woman if she hit them over the head because they latched themselves onto the ScarJo PowerGirl™️ of the last decade and don't think any other type of woman is allowed to exist in fiction anymore.
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longing-for-rain · 10 months
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You know what I think a lot of people don’t realize about grooming is that, the person will almost always start pushing your boundaries in little, non-sexual ways.
For example, one big thing a person who groomed me did was joke about killing and eating my dog. She knew I love my dogs like they’re my children, and I’d told her those “jokes” made me uncomfortable. But she kept doing it. The same joke over and over again; it wasn’t even funny (“I believe all god’s creatures have a place…next to the potatoes”). At first I pushed back, but then it got to a point where I got tired of resisting and treated like I was stiff and couldn’t take a joke. So I relented on that boundary.
That alone might seem insignificant and dumb, but with groomers, as soon as they break down one boundary they’ll immediately start trying to break down another. And each little one they break, the more they get you used to letting them violate you to the point where you’re afraid to speak up against the bigger things.
So especially if you’re a younger person on the internet, never ignore when someone is making you uncomfortable especially if they’re much older. Even if it seems like a silly, insignificant thing. They know what they’re doing, and it’s important to stay safe.
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fox-marauder · 10 days
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"not all men" you're right remus lupin would never
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steg5rr · 5 months
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Transgender-ideology in fandom culture
cw might be an incredibly incoherent niche rant idrc
I'm not sure if it's just me, but I can't be the only person who is somewhat involved in fandom elsewhere and noticing the eventual decline of tomboy-ish girls and masculine women be normalised.
I believe there's a certain pattern popping up among fandom spaces online perpetuating as the result of popularised terms such as 'T4T' (Transgender for transgender.)
Bear with me, but take 2 female characters who are romantically involved with each other. People on the left engrossed in fandom culture will start to interpret the more masculine of the two as trans-masc or the other way around (The more feminine individual progressively starts being labeled as trans-fem...)
It's disheartening seeing all the women I love from different media being interpreted with top surgery scars and being translated to either fit 'trans-masculine or trans-feminine' identities. Like... can women no longer be gnc anymore... Do we seriously need to start classifying them as men-adjacent..?
It's like we're winding the clock a couple decades back. People are questioning the authenticity of female homosexual relationships, just because there is no male present.
AND if you were to mildly express your dislike for a specific headcanon relating to gender identity, people would be quick to label you as a bigot or transphobe.. yawn..
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Hating JK Rowling is not a substitute for having a real personality, get a real hobby instead
The consistent hatred of JK Rowling on this website is so infuriating sometimes. I don't think her having an adverse opinion to your own is a good enough reason to hate her or anyone who still supports her.
She is not like some of these other artists who are literal child abusers and misogynists while still having supporters.
She literally just wants to continue to support and prioritize the female sex in feminist issues. I don't see anything wrong with that. I think it is anyone's prerogative to prioritize whatever demographic they want to prioritize within their own activism efforts. Expecting everyone to support every cause deemed a "good cause" is a ridiculous expectation.
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the-daily-dreamer · 4 months
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Reminder that if your feminism revolves around propping up women that partake in traditionally masculine activities/roles and shitting on or even hating women who embody traditionally feminine roles and enjoy feminine activities you’re not really a feminist.
It sets the precedent that women are only valuable and valid if they have traditionally masculine traits, which feeds a narrative that masculine traits are better simply because they are associated with men who are the ideal. It perpetuates the idea that things that are feminine and traditionally associated with women are in fact inferior to men/masculinity and should be looked down upon and belittled.
And, it alienates so many individuals that feel more comfortable in femininity, regardless of gender identity.
I think people in the ASOIAF fandom really need to learn this because feminine characters are so despised on the basis that they are not “better” women. Simply because they don’t embody traditionally masculine things like conquering or fighting.
Much of the hate comes from stans that love characters like Rhaenyra, Daenerys, and Arya (and do not get me wrong I love Arya), who are women and girls that are in positions that allow for more traditionally masculine behaviors and tomboyishness. And they will say incredibly sexist things about how the other women in media are inferior and directly contrast these women to their faves negatively by pointing out that they’re “too weak” or “subservient”. They reduce femininity to weakness and bowing to patriarchy instead of considering that some people have a different, more feminine nature. And that is OK! Just because a woman isn’t wielding a sword or fighting on the front lines or pursuing leadership roles in masculine ways (because historically women exacted and sought power in different ways than men) doesn’t mean they aren’t valuable and strong characters. Do not use feminine characters as a negative comparison to show how “feminist” and great your fave is. Because it’s just so blatantly sexist.
Don’t fall into the trap of reinforcing patriarchal rhetoric!!! Don’t reinforce narratives that traditional masculinity is superior to femininity!! Don’t belittle feminine activities and act as if they aren’t valuable!!! Girbosses are great but so are gentlewomen.
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animentality · 4 months
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miasmultifandomdump · 6 months
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It annoys me how so much of modern discourse around female characters is, to be frank, misogyny repackaged as being progressive.
If a woman's strengths and interests are associated with being feminine, such as cooking or enjoying nice clothes or being kind and compassionate, the entire fandom jumps on her as stereotypical or weak. It's seen as cool to bash on "women's work", never mind that your average misogynist has been doing it for decades, hell, centuries, and the jobs that are mocked as women's work are actually pretty essential to humans surviving and thriving.
And then, of course, if a woman shows the slightest hint of nonconformity, the entire fandom jumps on her because "oh!! she's trying to be not like other girls!! she wants male attention so bad!!" It doesn't matter how she is to the other girls in her life, if she wears combat boots and listens to punk instead of Taylor Swift, she clearly hates every other woman ever according to certain parts of fandom. It couldn't be that she's neurodivergent or LGBT or hell, even just a tomboy, she has to hate every other girl on the planet. /sarcasm
AND JUST TO CLARIFY. These tropes can genuinely be negatively done. The traditionally feminine girl can be a weak character and the tomboy girl can be an ass. But when you're calling a girl a "pick me" just because she doesn't live up to your idea of what a woman should look like or what you think feminism is... congratulations. You've simply repackaged sexism and called it woke. And lots of girls who see this crap online are going to suffer for it but hey, it was never actually about them, so who cares, right? /sarcasm
Anyway, to all the girls reading this post, you go ahead and be who you want. Be a princess or a president or a pop singer or a punk rocker or hell, all of the above. You're not a "pick me" you're not a "handmaiden" you're not trying too hard to be "not like other girls". You are fine. Don't let pseudo-woke nonsense get to you. It's just white noise.
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May be an unpopular opinion but having women only as background characters to gay male ships or having them not be there at all is no more sexist than having them be main characters with their only storylines being straight romances
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I think one of the most annoying things that turns a lot of people off to feminist discussions is the "Is this character feminist?" or "Is this piece of media feminist?" where if the answer is "no," it's labeled as a bad piece of media (goalposts tend to be moved around too). It's something many younger self-identified feminists are guilty of, and as annoying as they are, some of them might grow out of it. However, if you are older and doing this, it's clear you haven't really done the work to provide anything of value in the conversation and you're doing more damage than good.
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longing-for-rain · 3 months
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“There’s no way that person could be a predator. They’re so kind and helpful and give so much to the community! You must just be lying to tear them down!”
Let me tell you about Mr. Larry, the old band director when I was in high school.
That’s not his real name, but you get the idea. Everyone loved Mr. Larry. He was that fun, quirky teacher that all the students loved. He talked about how much he loved his wife and showed the class pictures of his cats. He danced on a busy street corner dressed as a pizza slice to cheer on students doing the charity run. He was very understanding and easygoing and always took that extra step to help a student who was struggling.
But there were always rumors about Mr. Larry. A few girls over the years had reported inappropriate incidents with Mr. Larry. Nobody believed them. He was so nice and so charitable. How could Mr. Larry possibly be *that* type of person? He must not have meant what he did. Maybe those girls just misunderstood. Or maybe they were just lying.
There was no evidence, after all, so the rumors stayed rumors. It was easy to accept, that way. Nobody wanted to believe Mr. Larry was capable of such things. What they didn’t know was the story of the girl who deleted all of her texts with him because she was afraid she’d get in trouble if her parents saw them, or the girl who didn’t realize what she’d experienced was sexual abuse until it was too late.
Mr. Larry was the same way for years. Nobody believed the rumors until he was arrested and put on the sex offender registry after one girl finally managed to prove her abuse to authorities.
But do you think it ended there?
Even after Mr. Larry was found guilty, so many people refused to believe it. His coworkers, students, parents. Instead of accepting that predators are capable of hiding behind a kind and benevolent persona, they instead spun a narrative in which that teenage girl was purposely seducing Mr. Larry, that it wasn’t really his fault. They called his sexual assault and grooming of this girl a mistake and tried pinning the majority of the blame on her. Because Mr. Larry was just so good and nice. Someone like him could never be a predator.
There are a lot of Mr. Larrys out there. Mr. Larry could be a teacher, a coach, your coworker, your next door neighbor, anyone. On the internet—because this pattern is extremely common online too—Mr. Larry could manifest as that chill person in your DMs, your “fandom mom,” etc.
Don’t brush off a warning because someone was nice to you. Remember Mr. Larry. He got away with it for so long because he built himself the reputation of a kindly and generous father figure. But he knew exactly what he was doing. Don’t fall for it.
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theslowesthnery · 10 months
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me: "it's kinda sad that my blorbo is so unpopular and disliked and hardly has any fans at all :( i wish he was more popular :("
me: sees how people who draw popular characters from New Very Popular Thing get ruthlessly scrutinized and harassed and dogpiled by thousands of people for every tiniest bit of alleged misstep and accused of horrible things just for depicting a character in a way someone else doesn't agree with
me: "nevermind this is actually pretty nice"
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mooniemilkieway · 23 days
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the way people act towards her and her creator on the internet makes me so upset
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first off, IT IS COMPLETE OKAY TO NOT LIKE NINA THE KILLER !! i may love Nina but I do have a lot of problems with her but the hate for her was just literally insane.
im actually planning on making a post where i call out the misogyny in the creepypasta fandom because it’s just ridiculously bad. like seriously.
i was going through my deviantart page to look at some nina fanart to reference off of and I saw a stamp that was well… an “anti nina the wh0re stamp” which…UM I THINK NINA IS A MINOR HELLO??? And the only character she gets with is Eyeless Jack…she was a fan of Jeff but the author never said that they DATED. and even if they did WHOOOO CARESSS ITS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER!! ITS A FANTASY THE AUTHOR HAS!! that doesn’t make Nina nor the author a whore or a homewrecker.
also THE RACISM IVE WITNESS. okay so the author is latina if i am correct and ofc her english isn’t going to be perfect. but. oh. my. god. the way so many people were literally ripping apart Nina’s story because of it’s “bad english” instead of fucking HELPING THE AUTHOR just infuriates me to no end. and it bothers me that these are the same people who’s first language is English and would still fail their English classes like PLEASE HUMBLE YOURSELF OMGGG.
this reasoning isn’t as abhorrent as the other ones but the way people keep calling her a “Jeff Ripoff” when she’s…spoiler alert…A JEFF FANGIRL. NO SHIT SHE WOULD LOOK LIKE JEFF THE KILLER LIKE THATS HER WHOLE POINT
anyways sorry for this rant it just has been bothering my for like YEARS and I’m so glad that Nina is getting some love and appreciation but just knowing that the hate for her was so bad that it even negatively affected the creator of her makes me so so upset.
i PROMISE imma make fanart soon just lemme get through my college classes lol
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torchwood-99 · 7 months
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"Work, skills and traits that have traditionally been seen as characteristics of and appropriate for women shouldn't be derided or minimised in favour of skills and traits associated with men, and should be respected"
is a valid point, but so is;
"women shouldn't be forced to stick to work, skills and traits that are traditionally seen as womanly, even if they are valuable and important to society, and they have every right to resent and dislike a societal role and code of behaviour that has been inflicted on them regardless of ability, interest or inclination, because of something as arbitrary as gender".
Period heroines complaining about needlework and housekeeping, and fantasy heroines dreaming of sword fighting and adventures, are not a problem, and actually do give voice to the many women in the world who didn't and still don't fit into what society has decided women should be.
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