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catpriciousmarjara · 7 months

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Getting a PHD literally anywhere else: Wow! Congratulations! What a great achievement! Amazing!

Getting a PHD in Gotham: Wow! Amazing! You're now on several Government, Civilian, and Bat watchlists.

So if any of the Wayne kids get a PHD, then the entirety of Gotham would be squinting at them suspiciously. They're rich, so resources, and most likely already insane with all the shit they pull.

What I'm saying is if Jason went and got himself a Doctorate in Literature, the whole city would anticipate the appearance of his villainsona called the Dead Poet(emphasis on the dead) or Bookkeeper or something else similarly nerdy and themed like that for sure.

I just know that it would turn into some Gotham inside joke with memes abound, and everytime Jason would, I don't know, give more funding to the neglected Arts Departments in Gotham University, or go to a school for read alongs to encourage kids to read, Gotham social media would go crazy and be like:

"The Dreaded Villain Dead Poet Reads Alice in Wonderland to Children! How Despicable!"

"Villain Dead Poet Lambasts Government on Banning Books! Leads Librarians to Riot!"

"Dead Poet Ramps up his Villainy by Establishing Educational Programmes in Crime Alley! Uplifting the Poor! What a Dastardly Villain!"

"Dead Poet Goes on Live Ranting About his Favourite Books! Favourite Author is Jane Austen! Is this the Feminist Agenda?"

And so on! It's a meme that refuses to go away. His siblings actively participate, and make the situation worse.

Dick held an online Gotham Villains and Anti-Heroes Poll and Dead Poet came out on top, over Red Hood. Jason is an actual Gotham crime boss, but his crowdfunded villainsona is more popular. No he's not salty about it at all.

Duke would create a montage of Dead Poet sightings.

Stephanie would make a Dead Poet meme compilation.

Tim would arrange Wayne Enterprises to donate to local libraries after allegedly being threatened by the heinous villain Dead Poet. (Jason did ask Tim to do that but not like that)

Barbara created an extremely popular Villain Watch account for Dead Poet.

Cass tweeted out Jason's favourite books as the villain Dead Poets reading list telling people to avoid them 'wink wonk', causing a massive uptick in the sale of those books ala Bigolas Dickolas.

Damian of all people tweeted out a pic of Jason playing with Alfred the cat accusing the evil villain Dead Poet of attempting to kidnap his cat.

And thats not to mention all the shenanigans they pull in their batsonas.

God bless Gotham and it's home grown, organic, not even remotely ethically sourced, free range chaos.

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outoftimewriting · 1 year

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i love the very fandom-ish jason & tim enemy-to-caretaker titans tower au's, don't get me wrong

however, i would love to have MORE of the "jason gets in the tower and finds a fucking rabid-ass feral tim drake and skedaddles 'cause he ain't dealing with that shit" variety, sounds more canon-ish for me

#take your dog back it bites #tim drake wayne #tim drake is a goblin #tim drake #red robin #red hood #jason todd #batman #batfamily #do i want them to be brothers? yeah #but i also want feral tim drake #feral tim drake #i want him to be a menace to society a fucking wild racoon #jason just calls dick and is like #idk i have thoughts

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whalehouse1 · 1 year

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Duke’s first time at the Watch Tower: This is awesome! Hey Red Robin! Spoiler! Help me log onto this thing!

Bruce as the demon children converge to the monitor Duke is at: Signal, there’s people here for you to meet.

Duke, not aware of the “respect the Batman in front of JLA members” rule: No offense Bats but I’m gonna explore this place with these two.

Bruce: Signal.

Duke: Calm your tits B, I’ll say hi in a bit. Let me enjoy this for a second before work.

The entirety of the newer and younger ppl staring at Duke in horror as Tim and Steph are holding their hands over their mouths to contain the laughter: :0!!!

#duke thomas #signal dc #justice league #Batman #Bruce Wayne #Tim Drake #Red Robin #stephanie brown #spoiler dC #I enjoy menace to society Duke #and him not knowing the treat Batman like others do in public is funny to me

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theevilslicey · 2 years

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Wayne Family has to act normal for a few hours while a film crew follows Bruce for a news segment on his newest making Gotham better initiative. Everyone is all clean, nicely dressed with Alfred approved clothing items pretending that they lounge in the media room on a regular basis.

In walks Tim while Bruce is mid Brucie Charm shine on wearing oversized Gucci sunglasses, a slightly oversized T-shirt that is neon yellow and says "All my friends are actually Superheroes", wheeling in on bright red heelies sucking loudly on the largest iced sea salt caramel and mocha latte he could sweet talk the barista into making with a silly straw that lights up with rainbow lights as he does.

Everyone suddenly goes very quiet and stares. Tim smirks at the film crew and says "Sup straighties" and wheels away.

Alfred was horrified and proud at the same time. Bruce was speechless for like 50 minutes. All of his siblings are fuming.

Tim wins the 50 bucks Kon bet him.

#Oliver Queen is not a hero but is still friends with half the league and a liberal menance #diaster tim drake #tim drake #tim drake menace to society #Bruce Wayne #Alfred pennyworth #batfamily #i was thinking about a au #and had this funny idea of his child giving him a T-shirt that says that #so he could wear it to annoy Barry #and then i was like... tim would want one #so...

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chocor0se · 3 months

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since a lot of people liked my last “tim parenting bruce” post i’ve decided to show another one: the bat glare (is it stare or glare?)

okay so i feel that at the beginning of each of the previous robins’ legacies they at first were affected by his glare(though he used it very rarely), but eventually grew to not really care about it and when he used the glare it became more of an annoyed way instead of an mad one. but then timmy drake comes into robin and well-

you see tim has been festering emotions inside himself his whole life after being raised in high-society and all. the boy is practically fueled by spite. so imagine batman and tim are arguing about something and bruce just decides to glare at him in full bat bravado, and timothy fucking drake just returns it in full force. they stay locked like that for a hot minute just having their own menacing staring contest before eventually bruce is like, fine. meanwhile alfred is listening in the cave and is very amused.

#tim drake #bruce wayne #batman #robin #dcu #batman and robin #alfred pennyworth #red robin #batfam #the bat-glare

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motherloads · 7 months

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Right Side of My Neck

Pre! Identity Reveal. Alt. timeline of my first Tim Drake fic ◡̈

Me when me when I see readers fawn over my other fics, asking for pt. 2 but what I give is this: Tim Drake and Spider-Woman! Reader *cheering noises*

Summary: The reader is a new hero in Gotham City, known as Spider-Woman. Despite knowing of the no-meta rule, she continues to patrol the city in broad daylight.

What's to say that the bats are allowing this? At every meeting, they try and stop the unknown woman from fighting their battles. With no idea of who she is, they are struggling to maintain their no-meta rule.

Unknowingly, she forms a friendship with Tim Drake and Stephanie Brown. Shameless flirting ensues when she starts to connect the identity of the bats.

Who is she but not a Spider who captures her prey?

-> Pairings: Tim Drake x Reader

-> Marvel/DC Crossover

->Warnings: None!

not proof read! oops,,,

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You looked back at me once. But I looked back two times.

"At some point, you need to realize that maybe, just maybe, you need to start advertising the no meta rule?" Stephanie Brown questions Bruce Wayne. She taps her feet impatiently, watching the man skim through the news reports of Spider-Woman. His separate file regarding the woman is on his other monitor.

"I do not have a no meta-rule," Bruce grumbles as he cross referencing similar heroes who tried to debut in the past. None match up and it was as if Spider-Woman did not exist before. Not in any city, town, or country was she ever sighted. It was as if she was a ghost.

"Technically you do," Duke shrugs, "You always growl about no meta's being allowed in Gotham. I was the exception, remember?"

"I do not growl," Bruce points a glare at Duke who shrugs shamelessly. "Aren't you supposed to be out patrolling? Go find the new hero, only god knows what she's up to."

Duke ignores his comment, deciding to suit up for patrol to escape Bruce's ongoing investigation.

"I thought we agreed to not use feminine pronouns," Steph reprimands, "They haven't revealed their identity. We can't just assume they go by she and her."

"I'm too old for this," Bruce sighs, "But fine. Can someone atleast try and follow their tale? I have meetings back to back today."

"I'll get Tim on this," Stephanie agrees, "But, before that. I think Alfred sent us his grocery list for the week." Stephanie waves goodbye to Duke and Bruce.

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"Spider-Woman is a menace!" Her coworker reads out loud, "A menace to society and for the vigilantes in black. God! Jameson is one hell of a woman to be blasting the new hero out this way." He throws the newspaper away, shaking his head in annoyance, "I think they're pretty cool! Their helmet matches perfectly with the Red Hood. I wonder if they have some sort of alliance."

"I don't think so." Another coworker pipes up, bagging the groceries for her customer, "I don't think they have the ability to kill villains the same way Red Hood does. They probably have some moral code? I think they'd match Nightwing the best."

"Definitely not Robin. He's too...aggressive for Spider-Woman to deal with. Plus, he's a kid, so they'd probably argue." Her final and third coworker shrugs, "I honestly like that they're a solo hero."

"What if there is more like them? Like a Spider-Society where they protect the multiverse," She spoke out against her coworkers, grinning shamelessly at her reveal, "Spider-Women in the Spider-Verse."

"Now where do you get that idea from?" A new voice muses. They all turn their heads to see Timothy Drake. His eyes, as tired as ever, make eye contact with the girl. He smiles at her in response to her staring, "Seems like a far-fetched idea."

"I know them," She grins, leaning against her counter, looking at Tim from beneath her lashes. She senses him squirm in response to her look, "Might even know their identity." She teases.

"Care to share? I'd love to know, for research purposes."

Her grin widens at his response, cocking her head innocently at Tim who continued to squirm in her gaze. "Why? Want to ask them out on a date?"

"No-No. I'm just curious! Does that mean you don't know?"

She pushes herself off the counter, continuing to check Tim out. She noticed the array of coffee flavors and things that are normally on her customer's grocery list. She assumed he was doing his own for his butler, Alfred.

"Of course not. I'm just a college student." She shrugs, "50.42. Will that be cash or card?"

Tim mumbles his answer, passing her his card for the transcation. His face still felt hot from her onslaught, but he decided to ignore how fast his heart was beating. Instead, he focused on her hands. Her hands were a light shade of purple as if she was healing from a bruise.

"Hey wha-" He gets cut off when she passes his card back to him. She tilts her head at him, making his heart stop again.

"What?" She asks.

"Nothing, Nothing. I-See you later?" She nods in response, watching Tim walk away from her counter quickly. She felt a laugh bubble up from inside of her.

"God, you're shameless." Her coworker sneered. She only laughs in response.

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"If I were a villain, where would I be?" She hummed, moving across the rooftop she was on. Her helmet's eyes furrowed, zooming in on a robbery in a nearby bakery.

"Gotcha," She whispers, moving down to the bakery. She notices the baker being held at gunpoint as customers run out of the store. She paid no mind to the customers who tried to push her aside as she stepped foot into the scene.

"Hey! Mr. Big Bad Wolf! Has anyone ever told you not to huff and puff in a bakery before?!" She paused at her words, suddenly realizing her mistake, "Sorry, Sorry. I think I mixed up my fairytales."

The robber immediately drops his gun and himself to the ground. Shaking like a leaf, the robber immediately starts blabbing out an apology. "I swear I had no bullets! I swear- I just need money! My kid's in trouble! He's sick and I-" She cuts him off, webbing the gun and bringing it to her.

"The shelter across the streets offers monthly emergency grants to 20 lucky folks each month. Luckily, the application opens tomorrow. I'd recommend you apply to it instead and-" She pulls out her wallet, free from any sort of identification. Counting silently, she slides a hundred to the man. "This should cover the medicine until you receive the emergency grant. If not, just tell the clerk Spider-Woman sent you."

The man nods frantically, taking the hundred and running out of the bakery. The baker sighs in relief, sliding down the wall hazardously, "I thought today was my last day, genuinely..." "Not your time yet, I suppose," She begins to skim through the selection, humming to herself as she reads the items out loud, "Lemon Pie sounds good. I'll take a slice." The baker immediately stands, rinsing their own hands from the dirt on the floor. In the blink of an eye, they were packaging a whole lemon pie.

"I said one," Spider-Woman frowns as the baker pushes the box to her. She could smell the lemon wafting off of the pie from where she stood.

"It's a thank you. Also on the house," The baker responds instead, "I'm Felicia by the way. Felicia Hardy."

"Nice to meet you, Felicia," Spider-Woman nods as Felicia smiles warmly. Her smile disappeared when the door jiggled. A person came into the bakery.

She felt no reaction with her spider senses. No imminent danger was presented. When she looks, she is immediately face-to-face with Nightwing, "Funny seeing you here. I swore just yesterday you were at Bludhaven, Mr. Wing!"

"Had some business to take care of here," The man easily grins, nodding at the baker in return as she stares in awe. "A little bird told me you were sighted in a bakery. Wanted to see the situation." The minute he ended his sentence, she felt another presence in the bakery.

"Little Bird? Does it happen to be Robin?" She questions casually, leaning against the countertop. She rested her hand on the bag with her lemon pie.

"How do you always know," A younger voice scoffs. The occupants in the bakery turn to the corner shrouded in darkness. There, stood Robin in his little mighty glory.

"The spider in the corner told me so," She responds instead, "Now...are you both going to take me in?"

"That's the plan," Nightwing grins, "Want to put your lemon pie on the side?"

"No, it's fine," She tightens her grip on the bag, "Got places to be, Mr, Wing. You'd understand, right?"

"Answer our question first," Robin spits out, stepping forward into the light. His katana, held menacingly and glinting from the lights was pointed at her. "Why did you let the robber go? He could have been lying and you let a man go. He could kill someone!"

"Listen, kid," She sighs, "I don't have to tell you anything- We aren't teammates and in no way, do I want the Bats in my business." She pauses at her words, feeling her nose wrinkle from under her helmet. Stepping closer to Robin, she takes a long, deep breath.

"You have a dog?" Both Nightwing and Robin tense at her words, "A smell lingers from you. You live on a farm?" She turns her head to Nightwing and does the same to him, "Do you like swimming? You have chlorine in your hair." When both of the vigilantes stayed rooted in their spot, both from equal shock, she continued. "You smell like someone I see around here. Are you in contact with Tim Drake?"

With that, she shoots four simultaneous webs at the duo's feet. Rooting them to their spot, she salutes them and runs out of the bakery.

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At this point, the constant meetings with the Bat's made her realize the similarities they all hold with one another and a particular person she loved to tease. Nightwing and mini Robin were not the only ones who had that particular scent.

When she met Black Bat, she noticed how the smell was not as intense but still lingered on her person. Specifically to the gadgets she had on her self, they had a combination of metals that had created it and everything that screamed Tim.

When she met Signal, it wasn't the same. He had more of a scent on him compared to Black Bat. Specifically his hands and shoulders, although she wasn't sure why. When she began to do her research and find blurry photos of Signal and pictures she had taken of Tim, she realized Tim stood shorter than the vigilante.

Batman himself never strayed close enough to where she can smell him. He always maintained a distance, as if he knew what she had been researching. But he had no clue, right?

Tim's scent lingered on Red Hood and apparently they likely had many fist fights with one another because of how strong it stayed on the older man's fists. Hell, if she was near him close enough (which was almost always never) she can catch a hint of blood.

Spoiler had the second biggest scent out of all of the Bat's. Tim's scent was everywhere to her hair, skin, suit, and shoulder. This had made her go crazy, but don't tell anyone else that it was embarrassing when she had stumbled into Spoiler's arms to make sure there wasn't anything apparent on her face.

But doing so made her realize how similar she smelled to Stephanie.

Red Robin had been the one who easily dodged her efforts to get anything off of him. If she thought Red Hood was hard, then she was in for quite a shock when Red Robin kicked her helmet, knocking her back a notch.

"I know what you're trying to do!" He shouts at her, "The others have told me you have been taking big sniffs at them, what are you even planning?"

"I'm testing a hypothesis," She grits out, adjusting her helmet's lenses as Red Robin kicked them out of place, "I just need to confirm something, just hold still!"

"No!" He calls out, taking out his grappling hook in a quick motion. He makes no sound of a goodbye as he shoots away. Scoffing under her breath, she easily sticks a web onto the mans shoulder.

Pulling herself back, she launches herself onto the vigilante's back. He yelps in shock, not expecting her to latch on around his waist. Her arms wrap around his neck as she tilted his head back. Taking a hard sniff, her senses went into overdrive when she realized how familiar his smell was.

Sighing in relief, she leans her head further into his shoulder, she is interrupted from her thoughts as he lands on a rooftop. Trying to remove her, he grabs at the arms that would not budge. Then, he tried her legs. It was the same outcome.

"Come on!" He growls, "Get off!"

"No," She spits back, "You're an asshole!"

"I didn't even do anything! You're the one smelling the entirety of all the Bats! What next? Going to sniff Joker?!"

She steps one foot down but immediately goes to kick the back of his legs. Red Robin falters as he falls to the floor. Above him, she sits on his lap. They both stare at one another.

"I was wondering why every single Bat had this one recognizable scent," She begins, her frown masked by her helmet, "It drove me crazy, Red. Absolutely crazy that I thought the person I knew was being stalked."

She sees Red Robin's mask furrow in confusion. Still, he made no effort to move her off of him. "Even smelled the clothes he let me borrow. To see how similar it was."

Removing her helmet, Red Robin stares in shock as the spider's eyes were revealed. A familiar color he couldn't help but feel a blush rise from his face and around his ears. He noticed her eyes shift to his neck, that was most likely red as well.

He could not see her lower half, she had it covered with a mask the same color as her suit.

"Tim, did you know that cologne never truly washes out?" She leans close to his face, brushing a strand of his hair away from covering his mask. Tim felt his breath hitch at the name unroll from her tongue. One syllable and one identity reveal. "I think you need to prioritize washing the smell out." She tilts her head, her eyes crinkling as she smiled under the mask.

"How-" Now, Tim pushed her off of him. Doing his own move, which she made no effort to stop, he landed between her thighs. She was on the floor, staring up at him. He was on his knees as his breathing became uneven.

"Right side of my neck always smelled like you," She muses, "Whenever you gave me a hug, it would always linger. I liked it a lot."

Without a second thought, Tim pulls off the woman's mask.

He stares at a familiar face, who smiles at him. The cute smile he always felt shy about and guilty that he constantly lied to them. The cute smile that was apart of his profile picture of her.

The cute smile of the person who he would have never thought was the vigilante they were chasing after.

He breathes out her name.

"Hey, Tim."

#tim drake x reader #reader insert #x reader #crossover #red robin x reader #identity reveal

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missbluesunflowersstuff · 6 months

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You know what I want? I want Thomas Wayne as Batman to find Jason Todd

Just listen: Thomas loses his son and his wife that day, he loses everything, every hope and light. He becomes Batman

one night he is finishing his patrol and finds this boy, very thin and small, stealing the tires from the Batmobile, the boy is dirty and in bad condition

That was surprising, not because of the boy's boldness, but how could someone abandon a child in that state in Gotham? Children should be protected, loved and cared for. But Jason looks so thin, almost skeletal

Disgusted with Jason's situation, he decides to take care of the child. He lost a son once, he won't allow any more children to die in Gotham due to neglect

And Jason, Jason makes Thomas' life more colorful, a little better every day

Some notes:

Why not Dick Grayson? Listen Dick Grayson was the original menace to society, this boy became Robin to kill a guy. Kid Dick Grayson was not a ray of sunshine guys, he was the original menace to society and Damian just brings the menace backs because Dick Grayson was wild gremlin

Why not Tim Drake? Tim became Robin because he believes in Batman (Bruce Wayne) ideology, which is very very different from Batman (Thomas Wayne) ideology. So no Tim Drake because Thomas Batman was much more violent and bloody than Bruce Batman. That's that

Why not Stephanie? She would be a really interesting choice, but I don't think Thomas Wayne would have enough patience for this (if she were the first Robin... That would end badly)

Damian Wayne? Ok that would be interesting, but how? Like how? How is it possible this boy was born there? I really want to know your theory about this shit

Cassandra Cain? ... Cassandra would have problems, they could start to work together but it will end soon because in the end Thomas Wayne is just violent and bloody thirsty as Cain and she deserves better than one old doctor with angry issues

Duke Thomas? They could work together but more like "that weird grampy old man who lives in my walls is here again" and "this weird kid with powers, I need to check him to make sure him is safe". Thomas would be the old man at the end of his career, Duke the neighborhood kid and somehow the two of them work together to keep Gotham a good place

Carrie Kelley? Ok I would read that, this would be funny as shit

I started this post with Jason would be a good choice but now Jason, Carrie and Thomas are also a good choice

#dc comics #batfamily #jason todd #dick grayson #damian wayne #tim drake #bruce wayne #stephanie brown #cassandra cain #thomas wayne

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cr1mson5returns · 10 months

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Thinking about the wasted potential that is Rose Wilson, weird little assassin-trained child, and Tim Drake, other weird little assassin-trained child, becoming absolutely feral besties and a menace to society at large (with absolutely zero incidents of sexual assault because I really hated that whole thing).

As fledgling Teen Titans, Kori gets between what looks like a very rough altercation between Ravager and Robin, only for the two of them to pout about it. "No fair!" Rose cries out.

"Now we have to start at level one again," Tim adds, plaintively.

Various Crisis events springing up and these two are fucking inseparable battle buddies. Tim takes a goddamn bullet for this girl and gets back up like "Low caliber shit, try again."

Red Robin coming about and Rose is 100% unwilling to let this raggedy-ass kid travel the world alone. She gets so mad about the League of Assassins being involved, too, has a one-to-one with Ra's that basically amounts to "Why are you obsessed with him? You're on my territory."

Nobody really knows the combined kill count these two carry around but nobody is exactly willing to ask, either. These unhinged losers hang out in the coffee shop on the corner catcalling random men just to start shit. Who's brave enough to mess with that?

#all i'm saying is tim got trained by some very deadly people and so did rose #these two deserve to have problems that only the other can understand #'omg lady shiva keeps texting me at 4 am she's so annoying'#'my dad wants me to have my birthday at his house this year and that is so far from what i want to do'#tim drake #red robin #rose wilson #ravager

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redhoodinternaldialectical · 10 months

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Introducing my jaytim fanfiction series Chained!

This is the largest writing project I have ever attempted! Currently (March 29th, 2024) it sits at a length of 153,000 words published and some back of the napkin math puts the final product in the ballpark of War and Peace’s 500,000+ words. halp lmao! This post is designed to serve as an introduction to what the story is about, what my Tim and Jason are gonna be like, and what parts of canon I’m sticking to

"So, what’s the premise ya dorkus malorkus?”

Jason is set in front of a contract that will grant near omnipotence over every facet of reality. The catch is that it requires the person who actually gains the power to be permanently bound into the service of someone else. Afraid of what this could do in the wrong hands, Jason asks Tim to be his new Master.

(a picture of Jason with the halo and armor the contract grants him that I drew :3 also, have a link to the fics!)

After many hours of intense negotiations (the entire first fic in the series), they produce a subcontract designed to maintain Jason's basic rights as a person while still granting them enough power to overcome whatever whatever caused the contract to be written in the first place. Now all that's left is to destroy the evidence, win the fight, and start remaking the world in their image...

Expect to read about: extensive theological discussions complete with readings of the Bhagavad Gita, shape shifting, hijinks, Harley Quinn being a menace to society really good therapist, redonkulous amounts of time travel and time loops, murders most foul, webs of lies and deceit as Oracle works to uncover their secrets, angst, fluff, hurt, comfort, and I’m gonna stop there before I overpromise myself, turn into a puddle, and never manage to finish the damn thing, lol

The draw of the premise for me is exploring the constant renegotiation of boundaries between Jason and Tim as they navigate a truly terrible idea of a romance. This is slow burn in that it takes them a really long time to get together properly due to the aforementioned terrible idea part, but they know they’re in love very early on.

“Lay out the dynamics there hoss”

I reserve the right to fuss with these, but my intention is:

Jason/Tim = the genius fragile human made of pure spite and determination and their sentient bodyguard/servant monster who they like lowkey have a thing with. Think Integra Hellsing and Alucard.

Barbara Gorden versus Tim Drake = genius versus genius 5D chess headgames war. Think L and Light with Jason as Ryuuk. But like if Light was into Ryuuk.

Tim/Jason versus [MAIN VILLAIN SPOILERS] = warring Gods. The source of a new mythology.

Honestly, just mark down Hellsing Ultimate and Death Note animes as major influences.

“What’s a folk gotta do ta get some headcanons and characterization in this joint?”

For Tim I’m going mainly with him in his Red Robin run where he finds Bruce, blows up the League of assassins and shit like that. I love how absolutely arrogant this man is, and I find the way he struggles with the ethics of the job really neat. This version of Tim seems perfect to act as the commander: always tempted to do more, tempted to go further into the dark with power, but also having a lot of self control and dedication to doing right.

In terms of personal headcannons I am making him trans (cause I can), ADHD/Autistic (because it makes sense), and a dabbler in mild, lowkey amphetamine abuse (The coffee chugger who never sleeps of fanon intrigues me, but also caffeine kinda doesn’t do that, whereas adderall definitely does. He’ll use both stimulants as available and needed. I like a man who knows he badly overworks himself but who can’t realistically say he shouldn’t be overworking himself.)

Jason is a much harder cat to herd because writers have long been playing tug of war with his characterization, dragging him over the line to unhinged villain then back to just another bat over and over. I always like Jason, but I think he’s at his weakest at both extremes of the spectrum. He’s a good villain/antagonist in general, but a phenomenal one when he has real goals and morals. He’s a good anti-hero/tenuous ally in general, but a phenomenal one when he and the family have serious disagreements and Jason is still a killer.

I’m keeping this fic as canon compliant as possible, but there is a bare minimum amount of rearrangement necessary to make Jason consistently morally grey rather than an ethical checkers board that looks grey when you turn it sideways and squint.

Headcanons for Jason include chronic pain (I just think being blown up should screw with a guy’s nerves), trans (cause I can), and having schizophrenia (cause I see some possible canon evidence and he’s had a LOT of ableist stuff thrown his way and I don’t really like ‘well I’m not actually mentally ill’ as a resolution point to that. I am leaving it ambiguous if this has anything to do with the Lazarus Pit, but I intend it to be very unambiguous that it has nothing to do with why he has beef with the rest of the bats. His grievances are not delusions. His moral positions are not delusions. He will hallucinate and I may have him develop delusions, but he’ll also take medication for that and employ coping mechanisms like real life people with schizophrenia do. The mental illnesses are something he deals with, not something that controls him into being evil, no matter their source.)

Oh and it should go without saying that everyone has so much PTSD!

“Cut ta the chase already jabrony, give us da timeline”

Crisis on Infinite Earths, Final Crisis, Infinite Crisis, Flashpoint, Convergence, and the Rebirth changes happened in this fic's canon. We are dealing with multiple multiverses. If you’re familiar with the concept of ‘Hypertime’ used to facilitate the Elseworlds series and elaborated on during the Dark Knights: Metal stuff, I’m building off of that. If you’re not, don’t worry about it, there will be a far better explanation in the fic as the characters discover this shit for themselves.

This takes place during the "Rebirth" era of DC comics canon in a fanfic universe I made up within that canon multiverse called Earth 69. Earth 69 is my idea of what the pre-flashpoint timeline might have looked like if flashpoint never happened. Essentially I'm taking the post crisis stuff and extending it by acting as though that timeline just kept going, with plot points from New 52 and Rebirth canon welded onto the end of it. Keep in mind though, Earth 69 only coincidentally mirrors pre-flashpoint events; that canonical pre-flashpoint multiverse still exists!

Now lets go through just Earth 69′s timeline, focusing on Tim and Jason

Based on the letter Jason sends to Kid Devil, I put the year of his death as 1985. Ten years have passed since then at the start of this fic, making Tim 23 and Jason 25. The influence of alien tech and supergeniouses accelerated cultural and scientific growth such that while the fic takes place in 1995, every bit of tech and culture from 1980 to 2024 is fair game to show up. I find it fun to play around with laser turret drones and microfiche spy tactics all in the same story, so our heroes listened to My Chemical Romance on their smartphones while watching the fall of the Berlin Wall on live TV.

Batman (1940) issues #419 - #429 aka Jason’s post-crisis Robin years happen almost identically to the comics, except that Jason is a trans man and it was the Penguin that got Willis Todd locked up for life and then killed instead of Two Face. Bruce eventually finds out he’s trans and is supportive if understandably clueless. He raises Jason as his son. It’s important to me that Jason’s beef with Batman not leave either side objectively correct. Their relationship and hurts are a lot more compelling to me if Bruce isn’t transphobic.

A Place of Lonely Dying and the Robin (1993) series happen with very few deviations, with the understanding that I've read less of this than would be ideal and might get some things mixed up as I go along. Those deviations include Tim also being a trans man. Because he was looking into transition care for Jason, Bruce already knows about puberty blockers and HRT and supplies them to him. That becomes a big part of why Tim’s Dad is so freaked out by Tim being Robin. In this timeline, one of the major reasons Tim is so attached to the role of Robin is that it’s the first role in his life where he gets to be himself.

Lost Days happens as it did in comics except for two changes. Firstly when Talia sleeps with him, it's not sex, it's fully clothed cuddling and actual sleeping. I think this compromise preserves the important emotional conflict that I identified in this reading of her motivations, while sidestepping some of the problems the sex caused. The second change is that Jason won't have ended Lost Days by going to talk to Hush...

Because I HATE Thomas Elliot as a character. I hate how he was implemented. I hate that he kept showing up. I hate that they killed off Harold. I hate Hush. So it never happened on Earth 69! Instead I'll be emphasizing Tim and Jason's later fights, which have some similar emotional beats.

Now, whether or not Jason held a knife to Tim’s throat is kinda fucking important to how their relationship is interpreted! Most people, understandably, make this a serious event between the two. However, in all the comics I’ve been reading, I have seen zero characters ever acknowledge that Jason was involved. Tim hasn’t thought or said anything about it, even when it really seemed relevant. Jason technically tells Batman he did it in UtRH, but it's never brought up again and at this point it feels almost like Judd Winick tricked DC into publishing a headcanon that applies nowhere else lmao. Therefore I feel fine with just ditching this and putting more emphasis on their later fights which have similar emotional beats.

Under the Red Hood happens, with one modification. He knows about Stephanie's death and treats it with the gravity she deserves. He is targeting Black Mask because of Steph's death, and something very similar to the excellent fanfic 'hangman is coming down from the gallows' by nex_et_nox happens.

Young Justice (1998) happens, except for some of the mythological encounters. They did watch Santa get blown up, but I will be taking liberties with how the Greek Pantheon operates, and holy fucking shit, no they did not meet the goddess Kali like that, what the fuck, did no one even try to do a basic level of cultural sensitivity research?!? Anyways.

Jason does fight Batman, Green Arrow, and Mia as told in Green Arrow (2001) #69 - #72. Roy does hear about this, but he hears about it the way that Mia herself tells it when asked about it in the comic, i.e. “He didn’t hurt me. We just talked.” So he's not exactly all that freaked out about it.

Roy Harper and Jason first meet in Outsiders (2003) #44 - #46 where he helps Roy and Dick exonerate Black Lightning with no ulterior motives, as in the comics.

Teen Titans (2003) #29 (The Titans Tower fight) happens as it did in comics. i.e. It was a fair one on one fight in which both participants understood that the other was not trying to kill them and both combatants walked away with nothing more than superficial injuries. Tim came away from that with a black eye and a grudge; Jason came away from it thinking Tim was pretty alright in his book. The writing on the wall was either Jason’s own blood, or red paint, because there is simply no earthly way that was Tim’s blood.

Teen Titans (2003) in general happens to Tim, though there’s a lot that connects to Countdown to Final Crisis (which can only have happened in the canonical pre-flashpoint multiverse) that may or may not need to be edited and removed.

The combination of events from Countdown to Final Crisis and Teen Titans (2003) #47 also happens, in which Jason attempts to save Duela Dent from murder, fails, connects with Donna at her funeral, and then is interrogated by Tim and Dick who suspect Jason murdered her. Oh and also it's where Tim kicks him in the pants lol. Obviously the reason Duela died and who murdered her has to be different, but all that should be details that don't matter for the fic's purposes.

I've already mentioned that Robin (1993) was being considered canon to Earth 69′s timeline, but make special note here of issue #177, in which Tim sends Jason to jail (his first prison stint, yay :D). One modification here: Jason's plan is to manipulate the established mob families into fighting the cops, leaving the local communities to govern themselves, not to use "kid gangs" to soften up the cops and the mob like happens in the comic. Because like... the on panel plan makes no sense, either logistically or for his character, and idk why but the way the author uses the concept of “kid gangs” leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Nightwing (1996) #118 - #122 aka Brothers in Blood aka the one where Jason becomes a tentacle vore monster happens exactly as depicted in comics. Exactly. As. Depicted. Well okay not exactly, I need him to not have threatened to bomb a building full of innocent people, that is a bridge too far, but everything else stays!

The Red Robin series happens as depicted, except for how Tim got the costume. The Red Robin costume that Tim wears in the pre-flashpoint multiverse was from that multiverse’s Earth 51. On Earth 69 the Red Robin costume was what Bruce made for Jason in anticipation of him wanting to outgrow the Robin mantel one day, like Nightwing did (tho uhhh great job reframing why the Nightwing mantel exists there Bruce lmao). When Dick gave the Robin role to Damian, Tim took the Red Robin outfit for himself from it’s pedestal next to The Memorial Case. There was a considerable amount of spite towards multiple people involved in that decision.

Battle for the Cowl is where it gets trickier. I am going to gut most of the plot of BftC and combine a few plot elements from it with the Batman and Robin (2009) series in order to create a much longer lasting conflict that preserves Jason as an anti-hero and his partnership with Scarlet/Sasha as a competing vigilante force to Dick and Damian.

After Bruce’s “death” Dick super does not ever want to be Batman. No one does really. Jason hears Bruce's post-death message and is understandably fucking devastated. He decides to say fuck that noise, Bruce is gone now, and I'm gonna be Batman since no one else seems willing to do it, and I'm gonna do it my way! Another Batman running around shooting people dead forces Dick’s hand and he takes up the Batman mantel to fight him. Batman and Robin (2009) #3 - #6 happen roughly as depicted, but with Jason still claiming to be Batman, and he doesn’t have red hair. (I’m so sorry white suit + pill helmet costume, but I must leave you behind for the sake of continuity). Jason's stint in Arkham and then Blackgate happens. Batman and Robin (2009) #23 - #25 happen as depicted, minus the part where Jason rigged the entire fucking civilian tram line to explode. After Jason and Scarlet fly off into the sunset together, they come back to Gotham and keep fighting.

Sometime after he's free again he does Roy a favor. I haven't decided what exactly, but it's big. I’ve toyed with the idea that he broke him out of prison because he doesn’t want to see Liam grow up without a dad in a move very similar to the Outsiders thing and roughly analogous to how he meets Roy in Red Hood and the Outlaws (2011), but that seems a lil repetitive and why would Roy even be in jail, so idk.

By this point the events of Red Robin are over and Tim has joined Dick and Damian in fighting Jason. Sometime before the climactic battle, Scarlet leaves for [FANFIC SPOILERS] reasons, so it becomes just Jason again. He goes through with something like the plan from Battle for the Cowl, luring Tim to his Batcave and offering him a place as his Robin. As in comics, Tim's answer is to pick up a crowbar and wack Jason across the face with it! Jason wins the fight and stabs Tim in the chest, knowing it's not gonna kill him, but fine with it leaving one hell of a scar! Dick's fight with Jason afterwards, and Jason jumping from the train into the harbor, happens as it did in BftC #3 with the exception of Dick wearing the Batsuit instead of Tim.

Starfire contacts Roy for help with a lengthy, off planet mission - one that absolutely needs a Bat on board. Every single Bat is up to their eyeballs in fires to put out and projects to run... except for Jason. Roy knows a lot of other Heroes with very good reasons to hate him, but in his personal experience, Jason’s always been a reliable if shady and asshole-ish guy working for the greater good. Ya’know. A Bat. It helps that they both think Bruce treats Dick like garbage sometimes and thus are inclined to be sympathetic towards Jason's beef with him. Roy vouches for him and brings him on board. They work well together, they save the days in outer space, and after a particularly dangerous mission they have a "thank fuck we're not dead" threesome together. This replaces the New 52 version of Red Hood and the Outlaws.

During the trip back to Earth, Jason confides in them about his woes and they encourage him to sort his shit out and get his life back together. Jason agrees and after considering it for a while he asks Roy and Starfire to help negotiate a truce between him and the rest of the Bats. They agree and thus begins two years of ceasefire and getting more friendly with the other Bats.

During those two years, the events of Dark Knights: Metal occur. The Source Wall is broken, and all the peoples of all the earths are plunged into a nightmare world. No one really remembers what happened, it’s all very vague and drifty, like remembering a dream, unsurprisingly. People have been referring to this event as The Nightmares.

This two year period also contains my version of Rebirth Red Hood and the Outlaws. Jason attempts to infiltrate Black Mask’s gang because the real Black Mask should be super dead and super unwilling to work with him. He’s a LOT more competent about it than in comics tho.

The biggest change is what goes down with Cobblepot. Jason’s original intention was to fake the penguin’s death and take all his power and assets from him, as he did in comics. However, he loses Artemis and Bizzaro before he goes through with that plan instead of after. At the last minute he switches the blanks out for lead. The Penguin is super dead.

He fights back when Bruce confronts him, but it's still a brutal fight and ultimately Roy has to separate them. Then Jason follows his father’s trail to the experimentation prison thing like in comics. Roy doesn’t die along the way, we don’t have the scene with Bruce at the diner, but in the end it turns out that his father is actually dead. No one survived that place. He only found boxes of dusty, decaying files, a grave out back, and Dr. Fate. Once he was convinced there was nothing more to find, Dr. Fate took him to John Constantine and The Contract, and that’s just about where our story begins!

Have another link, and I hope some of y’all enjoy what I’ve got so far!

#Damian's Tomfoolery #fanfic #jason todd #tim drake #jaytim #jason todd/tim drake

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ja50nt0ddwa5h3r3 · 2 months

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Batfam AU: Alfred Pennyworth never existed

When the Waynes die, Bruce is sent to a boarding school somewhere in Pakistan, under Headmaster al Ghul (Listen. Talia wanted an undercover gig. He was like- nawr, so, erm, he went undercover instead. Lil Tally is a menace.)

He comes back to Gotham at eighteen, without training because Ra’s don’t want his daughter anywhere near this idiot rich kid with trauma. Bruce was a bad kid in school.

Dick Grayson’s parents die that day in the circus, Bruce was too busy getting drunk off his ass with Harvey.

Dick stays with Haly’s, eventually getting a new team to trapeze with.

The Court of Owls still goes after him when he’s a little older, and I apologize to the Talon!Dick haters, but Alfred’s not here to set the chain of events to stop it.

Jason doesn’t steal the tires off the Batmobile (Bcuz there isn’t one), and, y’all are going to hate me, but, erm, street kids usually end up picked up by a gang at some point, and for the Irony, it’s Roman Sionis. He quickly works his way up the ranks.

Tim’s put in an orphanage (it’s Gotham, doesn’t matter if they’re rich or not, it’s probably Ma Gunn’s tbh)

He never falls into any dangerous hobbies, but he also doesn’t get good education unless the city pays for it with the late Drakes’ money, but of course they don’t.

Justice League won’t touch Gotham, seeing as how bad the crime is now that the Waynes aren’t there to provide funding for the few good things in Gotham.

Leslie’s clinic is still a big part of the Narrows, eventually expanding to free boarding for homeless kids (after Jason’s already off the streets) and a well known emergency service all across Gotham.

Do I even need to say it? Damian doesn’t exist. Neither does the Joker, etc. HOWEVER, unfortunately, all the rogues that would have become rogues even without Batman’s existence (or Bruce Wayne’s involvement) would still become rogues.

Stephanie succeeds in fighting off her dad, eventually becoming the first vigilante of Gotham, still Spoiler. (She doesn’t have the training from Bruce though, obvi)

Cass runs off from David and Sandra, tries to work with society without the help of the Batfam

#there’s more but #i can’t rn #batfam #batfam au #alfred pennyworth #leslie thompkins #ra’s al ghul #stephanie brown

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ao3feed-superbat · 6 months

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The Baddams Family Adventures

read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/eDxos4P by petting_a_bumblebee Batboy-centric glimpses of the life of the most lovable monster family in Gotham. Can zombie Alfred stick together long enough that the lunch is served without any missing body parts? Why doesn't Dick strangle and swallow Barb like Jason wishes in his furry little heart? Will Tim follow his friend Stephanie to the road of carnage and pitchforks or satisfy his achy new-adult eye-teeth with his human boyfriend Bernard? Fortunately, there is always a vacant spot behind the Wayne family crypt if someone needs a quick resurrection. - inspired by movies and series the Addams Family and Wednesday Words: 2337, Chapters: 1/23, Language: English Fandoms: Batman: Wayne Family Adventures (Webcomic), Batman - All Media Types, Batman (Comics), Superman - All Media Types, Superman (Comics), Superman/Batman (Comics), Justice League - All Media Types, Nightwing (Comics) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: F/M, M/M Characters: Tim Drake, Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Bruce Wayne, Alfred Pennyworth, Bernard Dowd, Barbara Gordon, Clark Kent, Barry Allen, Diana (Wonder Woman), Justice League (DCU), Stephanie Brown, Jim Gordon Relationships: Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Jason Todd, Tim Drake & Dick Grayson, Tim Drake & Jason Todd, Dick Grayson & Jason Todd, Clark Kent & Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent/Bruce Wayne, (if you squint) - Relationship, Bernard Dowd/Tim Drake, Barbara Gordon/Dick Grayson, Bernard Dowd & Tim Drake & Bruce Wayne, Barbara Gordon & Dick Grayson, Dick Grayson & Bruce Wayne, Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Jason Todd & Bruce Wayne Additional Tags: Alternate Universe, Urban Fantasy, Mythical Beings & Creatures, Vampires, Werewolves, Magic, Human/Monster Society, Human/Vampire Relationship, Human/Monster Romance, Adopted Sibling Relationship, Sibling Bonding, Good Sibling Tim Drake, Good Sibling Dick Grayson, Good Sibling Jason Todd, Batbrothers (DCU), Batfamily-centric (DCU), Batfamily Shenanigans (DCU), Vampire Tim Drake, Vampire Bites, (or lack of), Werewolf Jason Todd, Jason Todd is a Menace, Jason Todd Gets A Hug, Dick Grayson is Nightwing, (it is pronounced Nightslyde), Tim Drake-centric, Tim Drake is Robin, Dick Grayson-centric, Protective Dick Grayson, Jason Todd-centric, Hurt Jason Todd, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Humor, Drama, Light Angst, Happy Ending read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/eDxos4P

#ao3feed #superbat #world's finest #Clark Kent/Bruce Wayne #Bruce Wayne/Clark Kent

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starlightshadowsworld · 2 years

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For the three characters thing: Tim Drake, Dick Grayson, and Jason Todd?

Jason Todd: My boi! The nerd! Mr Robin makes me magic himself. Deserves so much and better mother figures…and father figures. Stealing the tyres of the bat mobile, iconic. The emotional one, the one who went out as a hero and came back ready to do what Batman could not. I love him so much, he’s smart he’s so entertaining like yeah ima just show up with a bunch of decapitated heads. Would hug and rest pride and prejudice with him.

Tim Drake: He terrifies me, this motherfucker just stalked his way into becoming robin. Dudes obsession got him to figure out secret identifies. I don’t have anything against him, he’s a wonderful menace to society and got a loving boyfriend. I 2 would throw hands with a 10 year old, I just don’t know much about him but he’s cool….just don’t make ur superhero name meant to hide your identity,…your actual name.

Dick Grayson: OG robin, I like how he’s the actual angry robin and not Jason. He’s fun, the origin of the mantle and he and starfire are cute. Don’t know much else really. He’s ranked low because of the whole sleeping with babs the night before his wedding with starfire….what the fuck man. Also the whole…new order thing…again what the fuck.

#Batman #jason todd #red hood #robin #nightwing #dick grayson #Tim drake #Red robin

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hcrrorbabes · 16 days

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𝐏𝐑𝐈𝐌𝐀𝐑𝐘 𝐂𝐇𝐀𝐑𝐀𝐂𝐓𝐄𝐑 𝐕𝐄𝐑𝐒𝐄𝐒

I gotta put this into more detail and posts on their own but for now this is going to have to do. below are Eddie, Enid and Chucky's verses. they've decided they're the primaries for the moment. I will flesh these out a bit more when I have time. especially Eddie's and Chucky's.

𝐄𝐃𝐃𝐈𝐄 .

DEFAULT V. currently tweaking s4 slightly bc fuck that noise (will post soon but willing to discuss) survived The Incident ™ because I said so spent a ridiculous amount of time in the hospital a town over returns to " Natural Disaster Clean Up " and battle plans

PRE S4 V. running HellFire & attending band practice being a general menace to society casually failing most classes because who cares

WITCH V. ( as a treat ) inherited his mother's penchant for being a kitchen witch spends most of his time helping supernatural beings that no one else really will is essentially a hex / love potion ( always fake ) dealer and backyard surgeon

KAS V. 'dies' in Upside down loses his mind in a way and turns into a bit of a monster not as far gone as Henry but def on his way claws his way out of the cracks caused by the breach secludes himself to the trailer park tearing any bat / demodog that slips through kids hear police talking about 'teens messing around' in the trailer park nosy little shits go to check it out --- because why wouldn't they find Eddie completely 'feral' scuffle ensues, quote unquote adults step in to put a stop to it kids (read: Dustin & Mike) are determined to 'bring Eddie back' devise a plan to 'tame the beast'

𝐄𝐍𝐈𝐃 .

DEFULT V. post s1 currently learning how to deal with her transformation and her mother out of school for the moment

S1 V. contains all of the events of the first season

𝐉𝐀𝐒𝐎𝐍 .

DEFAULT V. reigning bat fam disappointment #1 batman hater Tim Drake's biggest fan currently dividing his time between helping street kids and vigilante behavior

SUPERNATURAL V. Wayne family hunter who's seen the bad side doesn't believe in experimentation or research on supernaturals has the bad habit of black and white thinking dispatch the bad, turn a blind eye to the good begrudging older brother Tim Drake's biggest fan

#𝐀𝐔𝐓𝐇𝐎𝐑 . [ . . . ] out of char /

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