#fuck fakeclaimers

[talkingattumble]

Hi guys! Here’s some advice from a cane user on how to spot a fake cane user/disability faker!

YOU CANT

You can not spot a “fake disabled” cane user. You can not know if someone’s “really disabled”, much less by just looking at them. Here are some common misconceptions.

“Cane users always need their canes. If they walk without it or put it away when it’s inconvenient, they’re faking”: WRONG! Many cane users are what we call “ambulatory” cane users. This means they don’t always need their canes to walk. I’m an ambulatory cane user, and I experience really horrible leg pain on the daily. However, I don’t always use my cane, and when I don’t need to walk or stand a lot in a certain place I don’t use it. And when I do use it, I may lift it off the ground or carry it in places that are sandy, gravelly, or otherwise hinder my cane.

“Cane users walk abnormally without their canes, someone who walks normally without their cane is faking”: WRONG! Many ambulatory cane users can walk in a way that seems “normal”. This doesn’t mean they’re not in pain, or not “really disabled”. This just means that their condition doesn’t cause a noticeable difference in walking, and likely manifests in a different way.

“Cane users always need their cane, someone who doesn’t use their cane at home is faking”: WRONG! Cane users may not use their canes at home, because at home they may be able to do things like sit down wherever and whenever, regain more spoons, and use other mobility aids. Additionally, some ambulatory cane users only need or use their canes when they are doing something physically taxing, like going on a hike or standing in a long line.

“My cane user friend told me this person looks like they’re faking, so it must be true”: WRONG! Being a cane user doesn’t immediately make you an expert on all different conditions and experiences. Your friend does not know the random cane user walking down the street, they are going off looks and stereotypes. Disabled people are not immune to being ableist.

“They enjoy their cane too much/they’re too happy/they decorate their cane, so they can’t actually be in enough pain to need a cane” WRONG! We’re people like everyone else, and we experience positive emotions too, even if we go through a lot of pain. To me, customizing my cane is like getting a tattoo or putting streaks in my hair, it’s a way of self expression. And we deserve to be able to talk openly about our full experience, which include the parts we’re neutral or happy about.

“They’re one of those cringey teenagers who name themselves arson and like dsmp, so they’re probably faking” WRONG! Do I even have to explain why saying someone isn’t disabled because of their name and interests is messed up and also stupid? Or did you already know that and just wanted to make fun of a disabled teenager?

“They’re too young to be using a cane, so they must be faking” WRONG! there are lots of disabilities or injuries that can cause young people to need a mobility aid. For example, I use a cane for my fibromyalgia.

“They only use it in private places, and never in places where people recognize them, so they must be faking” WRONG! In a world where anyone can just randomly take out their phone, take a picture of a cane user, and post them online to be made fun of, it can be stressful to use a cane in public areas. Also, they may not want people to ask questions, or they may feel embarrassed about it.

“I saw them switch hands, so they must be faking” WRONG! There are different reasons a cane used might do this, but I’m going to use my experience as an example. My fibromyalgia is not consistent. Sometimes one leg hurts more then the other. But as I said, fibromyalgia is inconsistent, and sometimes my other leg will start to hurt more or need more support, which is when I switch hands. And when both my legs hurt equally, I may switch my hand if it’s getting too sore.

“They told me they feel like they’re faking when they use their cane, doesn’t that mean they don’t really need it?” WRONG! Imposter syndrome is strong in a lot of disabled people, especially when for a lot of our lives we were told by doctors that we were fine and just being dramatic. Anxiety is also comorbid with a lot of physically disabilities, which only strengthens this. To add to this, something that I’ve felt and seen other disabled people talk about it, when their disability aid lessens the pain, they start thinking “well I’m not in that much pain so I don’t really need it” even though the reason they’re not in that much pain is because of the aid. I know it seems dumb, but imposter syndrome can be that strong and affects disabled people a lot.

“They don’t have a diagnosis, so they must be faking” WRONG! First of all, diagnoses are expensive. On their own they’re often already expensive, but counting the tons of tests you have to take to confirm the diagnosis? Absolutely ludicrous. Some may also choose not to get a diagnosis, so that they don’t have to deal with the prejudice and setbacks of being diagnosed. Also, some people use a cane for injuries, and for stress or fatigue related pains.

These are only a few of the things I commonly hear from fakeclaimers, and I wanted to just put out a reminder that fakeclaiming hurts the disabled community much, much more than it does ableists. Next time you see someone with a cane switch hands, or someone with a wheelchair stand up, or someone with crutches put them down, before you immediately call them out to a friend, take a picture, or write a post: does your fakeclaim rely on stereotypes? Are your reasons things that apply to ambulatory aid users?

If so, just stop. Be mindful. Please.

#fuck fakeclaimers #fakeclaiming cw #anti fakeclaiming #disability #cane user #mobility aid #ableism mention #fibromyalgia #mobility aid user

[yrfemmehusband]

Debunking popular fake claiming points when it comes to tics and tourettes:

"I saw an older video where they didn't tic once!"

1. A trait of tourette's is waxing and waning tics. This means the diagnostic criteria takes into account that some people will go days to months without ticcing, or without ticcing severely.

2. Many of my tics are nearly microscopic. How do you know they weren't? Did you have a full body view of them? How do you know they weren't wiggling their toes nonstop, or maybe those couple of sniffs you wrote off were tics.

"their family/friends came forward and confirmed they're faking!"

1. My little brothers literally forgot I had tourettes. It can also be completely missed in childhood, many women and other people who were AFAB go undiagnosed until adulthood. Sweet Anita? She wasn't diagnosed until 27.

2. Family isn't always a reliable source and many people are estranged from family members, if you aren't very close with a person and their family, don't take their family's word at face value. De

"sometimes they tic a lot, and sometimes you don't see it at all for hours/days/weeks!"

See point one about tics waxing and waning. You are literally describing a symptom.

"Every time someone brings up tics around them they start ticcing!"

This is literally how tics work. If you are reminded of them you will have them. Especially if someone brings up a specific tic.

"you can see they put thought and effort into their tics, tourette's doesn't work like that!"

Clearly, you don't know how it works if you're saying something like this. No one knows how it works or feels unless you have it. Sometimes it looks like I put effort or thought into a tic when it was entirely involuntary. Sometimes, I do put thought into a tic. There's a part of tourette's called a Premonitory urge and it's the feeling you get before you tic. If you wanna get the feeling to go away, sometimes it's better to force out a tic.

It's not helpful to anyone to claim someone is faking, EVEN IF THEY ARE. We will NEVER have any way of knowing if some random online is faking tourettes and honestly the tourettes community has bigger things to worry about, and so should you.

#tics and tourettes #tourettes community #disability #anti fakeclaiming #fuck fakeclaimers #ableism #tourettes #tic disorder #ticpunk #tics

[fairie-angel]

i think our funniest fakeclaiming experience is when someone said we’re not a system because we’re not transmasc 💀 the did leaving our body when we use she/it

#fuck fakeclaimers #this was funny though #traumagenic system #endos dni #anti endo #osdd #did #system things #actually did #actually osdd #did system #osdd system #plural system #system stuff #sysblr #osddid

[systememergency]

Okay I can't believe I have to say this: I am 100% against fakeclaiming. Meaning if you even squint in the direction of someone who says they have OSDDID, I don't want you near me. My last post was explicitly anti-fakeclaiming, and if you read it as some mild in-between of "Well, I don't mind it when people fakeclaim in SOME instances uwu" NO. Not a single one.

Fakeclaiming completely destroyed my ability to trust my mental health professionals. I was convinced they'd believe I was faking it. I haven't told most people in my life despite desperately needing accommodation, because the first (and only) time I opened up about it to someone, they instantly fakeclaimed me. I already doubted myself and it took me MONTHS to disclose my DID symptoms to my psychiatrist because I was so scared I was secretly faking it. I still cannot properly believe myself, and I was diagnosed nearly a YEAR ago. I have been petrified of being open as a system out of fear of being harassed on the streets.

Fakeclaimers cannot see that they are damaging people with OSDDID, because they've convinced themselves their fakeclaiming exists in a bubble. They thrash wildly in every direction and just hope they're mostly taking down fakers. But if they take down actual systems? Collateral. Maybe don't act like such a faker next time. There was literally no part during my life where I felt as though fakeclaimers AT ALL helped me. There was no point in my life where I ever wished "Man, I just really hope this random 14-year-old system on TikTok gets harassed or I'm gonna have a rough day."

You know what I've wished for? I wished I knew for certain my friends and family would believe me. I wish I didn't have to be worried that the first words off my mental health professionals' lips would be "You're making that up." I wish I could be open about this illness when I'm more stable and it's less dangerous for me without the risk of people assuming my openness came from a lack of pain and understanding, rather than a domination of it. I wish I could casually bring up I'm a system in conversations without being worried that someone is going to interrogate me. I wish I didn't fear waking up one day to someone deeming me one of the cringe systems and launching a harassment campaign against me.

Fakeclaimers are actively stripping this reality away from me. So I'm going to make it clear again: I am not on your side. I am not some mild in-between of "Sometimes fakeclaiming is okay!" If you fakeclaim people, even the ""real fakers"", get away from me. If you actually gave a shit about systems, you would be using that energy to prop up systems and OSDDID resources, not harassing random internet users.

#Every time I make a post or comment being anti-fakeclaim there's always at least one or two fakeclaimers who come along being like #Yes I so agree with you I'm one of those GOOD fakeclaimers who only fake claim actually bad systems #Like yeah that's crazy you're the exact mfkers I hate why are you trying to get buddy buddy with me #actually did #did #osddid #cdd #did system #complex dissociative disorder #did osdd #dissociative identity disorder #system things #system stuff #anti fakeclaiming #fakeclaimers dni #tw fakeclaiming #fuck fakeclaimers

[murielsbottombitch]

"you're faking your disability for attention"

why would I spend a bunch of money on mobility aids just for attention?

I could spend that money on an onlyfans model and get much more attention.

#tw ableism #ableism #tw fakeclaiming #anti fakeclaiming #fakeclaiming mention #fakeclaiming cw #fuck fakeclaimers #fakeclaiming #chronic disability #chronic fatigue #chronic illness #chronically ill #chronic pain #cripplepunk #spoonie #text post

[irritatedprincess]

People will say they've unlearned ableism, but then vilify people with NPD.

People will say they've unlearned ableism, but then call people with NPD "evil," "bad people," and "inherent abusers."

People will say they've unlearned ableism, but then armchair diagnose someone who mistreated or abused them (2 different things, by the way), or just anyone they strongly dislike/hate as "a narcissist" or "a sociopath."

People will say they've unlearned ableism, but then make a stupid joke about autism/autistic people.

People will say they've unlearned ableism, but then fakeclaim others because they don't "fit" their idea of what someone with [insert illness or disorder] should be.

People will say they've unlearned ableism, but then deny that D.I.D is real.

People will say they've unlearned ableism, but then publicly fakeclaim D.I.D YouTubers (for the reasons above), endangering them and threatening their livelihood. (Even "professional" quacks; look at what some loser "doctor" publicly did to Pixielockes.)

People will say they've unlearned ableism, but then shame someone for not taking care of their hygiene every day, or for having a messy/dirty home.

People will say they've unlearned ableism, but then yell that plastic straws should be banned when many disabled people need them.

People will say they've unlearned ableism, but then rage if someone ever shows a symptom or trait of their illness/disorder.

So many people are anti-ableism until-

#ableism #ableist bullshit #fuck ableists #cringe culture is ableist #fuck ableism #anti fakeclaiming #fuck fakeclaimers #narcissistic personality disorder #npd safe #dissociative identity disorder #did safe #pixielockes #dissociadid #rant #txt #tw: ableism #tw: fakeclaiming

[adhbabey]

Just no more gatekeeping. I know it sucks when people pretend to have shit, but most of us don't have a widespread platform where you can spread misinformation willy-nilly, you can block most of those people.

But the further you try to conspiracy theorize about fakers and attention seekers and shit, the more that you hurt the community that you're in.

Most of us have wildly inconsistent and abnormal symptoms, different from a textbook definition. Sometimes we have regular symptoms and abnormal ones. Sometimes we just mask and hide it really well. Sometimes we have outrageous and crazy symptoms that are so strange that you'd think we're making it up.

And that's what some people say. That we're making it up when we're experiencing crazy shit. Or when we're being visible or open about our disabilities or symptoms.

You are hurting us. You are hurting the disabled community by searching for fakers and assuming that people are guilty until proven innocent! No one, and i mean no one, no one has to explain or justify their disability to you, and if you can't handle that, you're fucking ableist.

And sure, there are facts to how some disorders form and exist, and people spreading misinformation is harmful. But we have the power to educate others instead of focusing on gatekeeping resources. We have the power to inform and share and create spaces. We have the power to build a stronger community. Don't go wasting that on infighting and lateral aggression.

Fight against the oppressive system, but mind your own fucking business when you don't full understand someone else's experience. Stay in your goddamn lane.

#babey posts #important #actually disabled #disability advocacy #disability pride month #anti gatekeeping #fuck fakeclaimers #cpunk #madpunk #dyspunktional

[sirenium]

If you're against self diagnosis, that's ableist. If you're against neopronouns and xenogenders, that's ableist (neurotypical allistics use those things as well, but it's commonly used as a tool by neurodivergent people to express their gender. Myself included).

If you preach about 'narcissistic abuse', you're being ableist. If you say autism isn't a disability, that's ableism (it's a spectrum disorder for a reason!) if you fakeclaim people, that's fucking ableist.

If you use a crazy font or typing quirk and don't provide plain text translations, that's ableist, and so is not adding banner IDs for your DNI banners and similar stuff. Edit for this one: if you can't do these things for any reason, that isn't being ableist; I mostly had people who refuse to do these things cuz it'll ruin their 'aesthetic' in mind.

Feel free to add on.

#ableism #neoprns #neopronouns #xenogender #autism #narc abuse does not exist #adhd #disability #screen readers #fuck fakeclaimers #self diagnosis #self diagnosis is valid

[the-100-percent]

Guess what (not out yet) endo system had to hold back tears when their mom was talking about how endos aren't real! 🤫🧏🎉🥰

Oh oh! And guess what? She kept bringing up "Alastor" as a sign they are faking being a system! And guess who was co-fronting with me when this was happening? 🥳🥳

-🏳️‍🌈

#all systems are valid #plural #plural system #plurality #system #endo system #endogenic safe #endogenic system #fictive system #fictive heavy system #pro endo #endo safe #endo friendly #endogenic #paragenic #system stuff #system vent #vent post #vent #plural vent #tw fakeclaiming #fakeclaimers dni #fakeclaiming mention #anti fakeclaiming #fuck fakeclaimers

[debunkingfdc]

So anyways I want to talk more about r/fakedisordercringe fakeclaiming diagnosed people

So usually, they used to just casually ignore the fact that some of the people they were fakeclaiming were diagnosed, but now they've gone more mask off with their ableism

Instead of passively ignoring, they've started actively fakeclaiming diagnosed people, and saying that their diagnosis was fake/faked.

Some of their arguments include shit like "They just diagnosis shopped for doctors", "They aren't diagnosed, they're just saying they were", and "Diagnosed people can fake their symptoms", which can be easily debunked if you just realize that 99% of people seeking a diagnosis aren't doing so in bad faith, and that even if they were, the doctor would just... not diagnose them.

And this is extra shitty to neurodivergent people, because if even diagnosed people can be fakeclaimed while openly saying they're diagnosed, then there's no coherent definition of "faker" beyond a subjective "it looks fake!"

And at that point, it's literally just devolved to straight up ableism.

#fakeclaiming cw #anti fakeclaiming #fakeclaimers #ableism #ableist people #fakeclaiming #sanism #fuck ableists #fuck fakeclaimers #ableist bullshit

[wxrmeaterz]

systems are not treating CDDs like its a fun game just because we're happy sometimes or because some of us are grateful for/love our alters

maybe, JUST MAYBE

we want a break from the awful reality of this trauma-based disorder that is literally disabling

maybe FOR ONCE

we want to just feel normal

AND MAYBE SOMETIMES WE ARE JUST FUCKING HAPPY AT THAT MOMENT

how dare you claim someone is faking for experiencing fucking emotions

#endos dni #fuck fakeclaimers #actually did #polyfrag did #did system #did alter #did osdd #osdd #cdd system #osddid #endos fuck off

[sappy-sabbath]

as a society can we stop making mental illness/neurodivergency trendy and romanticized. i know more mf who faked claim than ppl who actually had the condition. at the end it just makes the people who are diagnosed with the condition the butt of the joke or look disingenuous.

ALSO IF I MAY be real for a sec!!! it’s because of the “destigmatizing XYZ 🥺” tiktoks and self diagnosing that make this happen, i know they are good intent and not all people have resources but its one thing to be concerned about your mental health and another to claim to have a disorder that you haven’t been diagnosed with!

autism, ADHD, schizophrenia, BPD, bipolar disorder, psychosis, OCD have all became quirks than serious debilitating condition and as someone with ADHD and psychotic depression IM SICK OF ITTTT, it’s different with things like depression and anxiety bc you experience that at least once in your life but it’s getting out of hand

#mental health #neurodivergency #actually mentally ill #mental heath support #mentalheathawareness #neurodivergent #neurodiversity #romanticism #tw fakeclaiming #fakeclaimers dni #anti fakeclaiming #fakeclaiming mention #fuck fakeclaimers #fakeclaiming cw #destigmatization #self diagnosis #self diagnosed autism #self diagnosed adhd #self diagnosers #autism #autistic spectrum #adhd #actually adhd #schizophrenia #schizoaffective #bpd #bipolor #psychosis

[cavityinmybrain]

something else that made me personally change my ideas on syscourse was that my system didn’t function like a lot of anti-endos. i relate much more to things that people say are “faking.”

not everyone in my system is aware of themselves as a person. we dont know how many there are, but we have a lot of fragments. pieces will show up and front with specific memories and we can target where they’re from and they’ll never front again. my system kept going entirely dormant/unaware for months repeatedly. i got worse amnesia about my life and lived experiences. i felt like i was doing it all for attention. except its been happening for as long as i remember.

seeing people poke holes in others experience to say they’re “faking” was really bad for my denial. now im seeing a therapist and thats kinda helping.

so yeah, when you fakeclaim, you hurt people who experience whatever looks “fake” to you.

#yeahhh our system is waking up again thanks to having a new therapist #hopefully she believes us #its really hard to explain whats going on in my head a lot of the time #plural #system #multiplicity #traumagenic #traumagenic system #fakeclaiming cw #fakeclaiming mention #tw fakeclaiming #fuck fakeclaimers #for making me feel like i was crazy #endo safe #endo friendly

[reignybaby]

"endos are faking DID/OSDD/ect!!!" so are gonna ignore the fact that the one thing endos refuse to do is 'fake' DID+

are we also going to ignore the DID/OSDD/ect plurals who have more origins besides traumagenic?

are we ALSO going to forget that traumagenic / DID OSDD system alters can have other origins besides traumagenic?

#anti fakeclaiming #fuck fakeclaimers #fakeclaimers dni #anti endo dni #anti endogenics dni #anti endos dni #anti endos will always make no sense to me #if youre aware systems are already marginalized #why further marginalize your own community #by being a hater? #youre just making is worse #get your money up not your funny up #</3 #i said what i said #pro endo #endo safe #endo friendly #pro endogenic #endogenic safe #hazardqueer #coralqueer #anti sysmed #anti syscourse

[mysidaesm]

How fakeclaimers tell if you are faking a disorder!!!!!!

-you have a less than super common disorder

-you dress in any way that isn't casual

-youre queer in some way shape or form

-you act "cringe"

-youre a minor/you are young

-you show symptoms

-you don't show symptoms

-you don't follow stereotypes

-you follow stereotypes

-you use popular social media

-you have more than one illness/disorder/etc

-wait what does any of that have to do with anything

-im starting to think that fakeclaimers are just bigoted

-who could've guessed

#tw fakeclaiming #fuck fakeclaimers #anti fakeclaiming #did system #did osdd #mental health #mentally ill #mental ill health #physical disability #physically disabled #borderline personality disorder #actually bpd #bpd #narcissistic personality disorder #npd #personality disorder #tourettes #bipolar disorder #disorders #eating disorder

[gillipopmoji]

I don't understand DID

I don't understand age regression

I don't understand typing quirks

I don't understand personality disorders

I don't understand gender

I don't understand how endogenic systems form

I don't understand ID

I don't understand therians.

BUT GUESS WHAT?

I also don't understand the human brain. Just because you don't understand doesn't mean you have to fakeclaim or bully.

#not an emoji #tw fakeclaiming #anti fakeclaiming #fakeclaiming mention #fuck fakeclaimers #fakeclaiming #bullying #tw discourse #discourse tw #cw discourse #discourse cw #discourse