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yr-martyr · 1 month

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Did you know that John Laurens was a spy?????

I really didn’t til today. Greene appointed him as his personal spymaster and he did a damn good job as an intelligence officer! Really, that is such an interesting fact about this man nobody acknowledges.

“John Laurens returned to his home state after the capture of Cornwallis’s army and Gen. Greene made him his spymaster. Having chaired the legislative committee that wrote the Confiscation Act, Laurens was well poised to obtain exemptions for loyalist planters willing to spy for Congress.” (- Woody Holton, Liberty is Sweet)

#amrev #amrev fandom #the american revolution #American war of independence #John Laurens #spies #history #historian tumblr #the martyr speaks

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theinquisitxor · 10 months

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Researcher and doctorate @NoraEpstein on Twitter just posted a video of the new tattoo she got commemorating her PhD.

And… she footnoted the artwork, with a literal footnote 😂 I love this so much

#medieval #medievalist of tumblr #history #art history #tattoos #historians of tumblr #check out her Twitter she seems like an awesome lady #plus she has her MLIS #bonus points there

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ineffable-aaaaaaaaaa · 4 months

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manifesting the lesbians for season three :))))))

#fashion historians pls don’t blight my crops #I am but a humble tumblr artist who only wants to draw my bible lesbians in vaguely medieval clothing #but lacks the attention span to do any actual research :’)#good omens #ineffable husbands #ineffable wives #crowley #aziraphale #my art

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fanfic-gremlin-ft-trauma · 3 months

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I HAVE BEEN INFORMED VERY LATE THAT IT IS THE PRINCE AND THE FOOL ANNIVERSARY. (school has been kicking my ass I am a bit behind 😭) how people saw this and STILL think zukka is an ‘out of the ass’ and ‘nonsensical’ ship is amazing to me

anyway is that all you and sokka were, or were to one another?

no, i think not

iroh said:

#atla #zukka #zuko x sokka #zukka fanart #atla fanart #the prince and the fool #AHHHH HAPPY ANNIVERSARY HELLO #did two goofy sketches for this so enjoy #that exact letter fuelled my zukka drive before I had tumblr #like.#come on that’s soooooo ‘and they were roomates’ ‘historians will say’ ‘they’re really good friends’#tell me I’m wrong I’m not

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palidoozy-art · 11 months

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Tereza and Florette, and their Octopath-esque sprites.

#palidoozy arts #artists on tumblr #digital art #the eclipse has officially happened #kjosev has managed to convince these two to join them #so now the party consists of:#a tree hobo with weird teeth #a necromancy-obsessed elf with dementia #a blind bunny man #a genderless guard who is also a rabbit #a useless ass commoner historian #and her daughter that the party has decided is now their daughter #their next session? raise an undead horse and steal a bunch of adorable sheep then flee the city

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elidyss · 6 months

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OC doodle dump

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greekgodssitcom · 2 months

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Hermes: The only thing I commit to is crime

Aphrodite: And also Apollo

Hermes: And also Apollo

#historians will say they were best buds #greek god sitcom #greek gods #greek myth memes #greek mythology #incorrect greek gods #incorrect greek mythology #god #hermes greek mythology #hermes god #hermes #apollo greek mythology #apollo greek god #Hermes and apollo #how is that not a tag???#disappointed in the entirety of tumblr #fuck you all I’m making it a tag #aphrodite #aphrodite greek mythology

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amylouioc · 5 months

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The arrival of Lugh to the court of the Tuatha Dé Danann 💫

(This is my November postcard! If you’d like to be sent one, you can sign up here)

#irish mythology #artists on tumblr #illustration #amylouioc art #celtic mythology #fantasy illustration #lugh #nuada #tuatha de danann #celtic polytheism #praying the fidchell historians don’t kill me #The Coming of Lugh

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pinatadulce · 13 days

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"The poet and the painter" (Mini comic?)

Historians will call them close friends ♡

That moment when you befriend the poet by literally just looking at him

Damn I can draw backgrounds???

WH OC Trivia: Luddy (the purple looking grape dude) has social anxiety, which he's trying to overcome. His anxiety is quite severe it causes him to go completely mute in public/around those who aren't close to him (which makes it hard for him to communicate). However, as mentioned earlier, he is working on overcoming it, and he's slowly but surely making progress with the help and support from his beloved neighbors....but especially from a certain little peanut.

《☆》

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oldshrewsburyian · 30 days

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Honest question, I get where you're coming from, but don't you think you're being a bit harsh on that book by that Prof. Roberts? Scientific fields overlap everywhere, and one often gets the most helpful new impulses in a field from these overlaps - if she's a medical doctor in research, wouldn't her insight into historical diseases be of scientific interest? And (at least as far as the image on the post, anyway) the cover isn't claiming she is a historian. It gives her legitimate academic title and says she's a bestselling author, which I'll presume is not untrue. I don't have a horse in this race, but i'm honestly interested in your take - as someone who struggles a lot with a historian community in my country that I've often experienced as needlessly gatekeepy and set in their ways in frustrating ways, I personally don't see anything wrong with books like this (and would probably reach for them at least as much as historian's works).

Hi! My answer is that my quarrel is not so much with the book as with its marketing. As a paleopathologist, are Prof. Roberts' insights into skeletal remains of interest and use to historians? doubtless! But the subtitle of the book is not something like "Old Bones and New Science," or "The Archaeology of Life, Death, and Disease." If it were, I would have reblogged without being tempted to despair.

What I'm objecting to is the implicit claim by a visual design and title that says "look, a social history of the Middle Ages!" and the "bestselling professor!" points which, while not untrue, as you point out, are, I would argue, misleading in this context. I'm all for academics (like Prof. Roberts) writing for crossover and trade markets in their subjects. I'm all for interdisciplinary work. What I object to is well-paid, camera-ready scientists with named chairs getting this kind of work published while I and my colleagues in the humanities have to cry, scream, and beg to get jobs, or to avoid having our jobs axed from under us. What I object to is the world and the publishing industry treating this kind of book as more valuable when written by a scientist than when written by a historian.

#history side of tumblr #my historian soapbox

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s0urk1w1 · 4 months

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I’m cooking

#stridercest #dirkdave #realised I would be depriving the tumblr historians in 2124 if I don’t tag this

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yr-martyr · 1 month

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The death of John André.

John was an army intelligence officer and in 1780, he set out on his final mission. He was smart and a talented artist, musician and actor and quite awfully pretty. He was a flirt, both with women and men. He was kind and charismatic, he was sweet. And he had a downfall.

He joined the army just before the American Revolution began and was quickly sent to the colonies. His skills in art proved useful for espionage and he quickly became a valuable asset to the British forces.

He assisted in the treason of Benedict Arnold, but in their careless haste, John was caught. Plans for Westpoint (the fort at which the event occurred) were found in his shoes, which were stolen. With all this evidence, he was quickly found guilty for espionage and treason.

He was due to hang for his crimes and as a sort of trade: a spy for a spy. Four years prior, a man called Nathan Hale was also arrested and killed for spying: Howe’s treatment of Nathan continued Washington’s treatment of John. Many of John’s captors were opposed to him being killed. Ben Tallmadge, Nathan Hale’s own best friend (or lover- there is historical debate), didn’t agree to the revenge killing. Alexander Hamilton, Washington’s aide, said to the effect of ‘he was too pretty to be hanged’.

While John André was treated better than Nathan Hale, his stay on death row was longer- he became friends with the men who were ordered to kill him.

Finally on a fateful day in Tappan, New York, John was brought to the gallows and his crimes were read. He mounted the stair and gave a show of courage though he had sadness in his face. (You can see it yourself, he drew a self portrait on the eve of his death! The fact he was composed enough to do this is impressive but he’s still melancholy, he’s a human.) Before he was pushed from the scaffold he spoke; “I hope you will all bare me witness that I meet my fate like a brave man.”

He is interred at Westminster Abbey. He wasn’t married, he was childless but that’s because he was just 29. He kept a journal, a scrapbook of letters and drawings.

Sou rces

#John Andre #the american revolution #Amrev #the martyr speaks #spies #johndre #john my beloved #historian tumblr

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sorenhugo · 8 months

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You know what fuck you *travels back in time to join a revolution and we fight and drink and share homoerotic tension. We have one last drink and song with our buddies and try our best to defend ourselves and tend to the wounded with our cravats but we end up dying together in each others’ arms all bloodied but looking into each others’ eyes.*

#les mis #les mis memes #enjoltaire #gay memes #tumblr memes #hamilton memes #historical gays #and they were roommates #omg they were roommates #close friends #historians will say they were close friends #achilles and his pal #sappho and her friend

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puroleine · 8 days

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Shared loneliness

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lovefortayley · 3 months

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An assortment of Lucy Dacus edits from my Instagram lettertoagaypoet.

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patrochillesvibes · 2 days

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Het were achilles and patroclus cousins? It's never been said in the illad yet people say that patroclus's grandma is achilles's great grandma , even though the illad never says this??

Maybe.

Here's Achilles' family tree per my Caroline Alexander translation:

I don't have a digital copy of Emily Wilson's translation, but it is relatively similar.

As you can see, Patroclus is not in the family tree.

Homer does mention Patroclus' father, Menoetius, a few times. He also mentions that Menoetius is the son of Aktor (or Actor). No mention of a mother.

Pindar suggest's Menoetius' mother being Aegina. Sound familiar? It should because Aegina had Aeacus who had Peleus.

Weird, right? Wouldn't that make Patroclus a peer of Peleus. Of course Aegina is a nymph and and nymphs are immortal, so a generation could have passed between her having her two sons.

I remain skeptical. I think if Patroclus had such a famous mother she would probably be mentioned by Homer as Thetis was mentioned. BUT THEN AGAIN these people were SUPER sexist so 🤷‍♀️

Here's the infamous Google family tree to explain the possible relation:

Here's a better one.

What is that like first cousins once removed?

So given it's not explicit in Homer and the connection and understanding of other sources is dodgy at best, it's really a matter of how /you/ want to define what is canon.

Is your canon The Iliad? Is it the entire Epic Cycle which we only have parts of? Or is your canon all works of Ancient Greece?

I mentioned this in another post, Greek mythology is fucking frustrating for this very reason. We know of a bunch of ancient authors who wrote about mythology and they each had their own headcanons. And of course no two headcanons are the same, just to fuck with us some more I swear.

For emphasis, here's a summary of the different hcs for Patroclus' mother:

But back to the cousin thing...

At least in various civilizations in Europe, marrying your first cousin was a thing up through the mid-20th century. Just Google search any European royal family. We mainly only now find it "weird" or "creepy" bcs of our modern understanding of genetics.

Google is telling me it was common in some periods and some areas of Ancient Greece. So if they were cousins, it most likely would not have been considered "icky" by their contemporaries through Homer. I mean those ppl in Athens created ritualized pedophilia so I think cousin incest is pretty tame in comparison

Many of the headcanons floating out there by all these dead famous white men are contradictory. For example: there are multiple versions of how Achilles gained his powers, there are multiple versions of Achilles' death. It can't all be true! So pick what you like and move on. Or better yet, make up your own canon for yourself! Don't stress about it.

#don't ever let the armchair historians of tumblr make you feel bad for your hcs #fight them instead #ask #patroclus #patrochilles #achilles #it is fun to research these things and chat about it but it's nothing to get worked up over #oh and not to be /that/ person but yes the Troy movie is valid #it's a shitty white cishet hc but they have the right to make up hcs too #and yes we have a right to make fun of them #gosh i love chatting about patrochilles hcs and conspiracy theories

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