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damianbugs · 7 months

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with all this gotham war stuff (most recently the comic sc you posted on your twt with jason and bruce), can u explain what is actually going on? like, i’m not that far so i haven’t read it, but… like is it actually bruce saying all that stuff about the kids? or is it this zur person people keep talking about?

oh my friend, it's crazy around here, but i will try my best to explain it!

A GUIDE TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING TO BATMAN IN GOTHAM WAR:

firstly, the comic reading list to catch up with gotham war is: as of 01/10/23 (the ones in italics are core issues to the story)

for some background on what happens leading up to gotham war:

Batman (2016) #125-136

(Optional) Knight Terrors: Batman

(Optional) Knight Terrors: Catwoman

and then the actual gotham war story:

Batman/Catwoman: The Gotham War - Battle Lines

Batman (2016) #137

Catwoman (2018) #57

Batman/Catwoman: The Gotham War - Red Hood #1

this is everything that is out right now, but from the third of october to halloween we will also be getting: Batman #138, Catwoman #58, Gotham War: Red Hood #2, Batman/Catwoman: The Gotham War - Scorched Earth.

secondly... who is Zur En Arrh.

Zur En Arrh taking over Bruce, Batman (2016) #126

zur en arrh, in the simplest way of explaining, is this alter ego/personality (it's unclear) bruce created for himself should batman (bruce wayne) ever be psychologically compromised or brainwashed. it's not him, but a more sadistic and crueler person that is the "ultimate batman" who doesn't care about anyone or anything but getting the mission done.

during Batman #125-130, zur takes over the role of batman because bruce was losing very badly to the robot Failsafe (which is zur's own creation, that bruce has no memory of making). after getting vaporised by failsafe and sent travelling through dozens of alternate universes, losing his hand and fighting a flying shark (Batman #131-135), bruce returns to gotham incredibly mentally unstable.

During a peaceful dinner with his family, Bruce suddenly imagines the entire world on fire, Batman (2016) #136.

during everything, bruce managed to mentally fight back and kind of... merge their ideals together in order to survive and win in the moment.

and then successfully trapping failsafe back into his mind where he can no longer take over!

Bruce uses some sort of mental technique to lock Zur away in his mind, Batman (2016) #136.

except he didn't succeed! at all!

you see, when travelling through all those universes, bruce somehow brought back every single version of zur en arrh with him. now all of then combined, plus his already deteriorating and weak mental health from the last few years, bruce is currently operating under the impression that he's locked zur away, when he actually hasn't.

zur is the one partly, or even entirely, in control. right now, he's just pretending to stay locked away so bruce continues to do what he thinks is 'right' despite them being incredibly out of character for the run.

During his eight week coma, Bruce sees Zur 'locked away' and he is, apparently, not alone, Gotham War: Battle Lines (2023)

an example is when zur referred to robin as batman's solider, bruce mentally fought back to make it clear that tim was his son. but then, a few issues later, bruce refers to his children as his soldiers and that they've all betrayed him, implying that zur has always had control and isn't locked away.

Bruce and Zur get into a fight inside his mind about Robin [Tim Drake], Batman (2016) #127

so yeah, zur is not bruce! they're both batman, but zur en arrh is like his somehow unimaginably even worse twin. if you're interested more in him, i would suggest giving his character history a read! be warned it gets changed A LOT and is definitely not everyone's cup of tea (personally i hate him and need him shelved for another forty years).

now that that's all done and explained, the current state of gotham war is Bruce (thinks he's okay) fighting everyone else (except Damian) because in his (Zur's) point of view, they're all against the mission and therefore are now his enemies (he's lost his mind). totally not convoluted.

to answer your original question, yes, this is all bruce saying and doing these things but he is being HEAVILY influenced by Zur. we can't tell for certain how much of this is bruce and how much is zur, but we can definitely prove zur is partially or completely controlling him again.

even jason points it out after bruce implants that fear toxin chip into him in Batman (2016) #138:

like we can see the intention is to keep jason out of this, because compared to everyone else, jason was the most directly opposed to bruce. but zur is twisting how this concern gets expressed, since forcing jason into feeling fear everytime he gets an adrenaline rush is hardly the reformation bruce is usually encouraging. the other batfam members also talk about how uncharacteristically violent bruce is being.

"He's out of control." / "He's gone [In more ways than one.]" Batman (2016) #137

as the story progresses we see more and more of zur replace bruce, but because he can't have bruce trying to stop him again, zur is playing along and convincing bruce he's locked away. so really, bruce is at war with not only his entire family, but also his own mind. just another average tuesday for batman. he's being tricked and is unknowingly doing exactly what he was trying to prevent.

to understand what the actual war in gotham war is, give the comics listed above a read! if you find the story boring/ridiculous/stupid, don't worry, it is! the social commentary leaves a lot to be desired, as does most of the characters writings (especially selina's).

bruce and his one sided battle with zur is sort of an overarching story happening alongside it (along with a bunch of other ongoings. i don't even understand how detective comics and batman and robin are going to tie into this once it starts up again).

sorry the answer isn't a simple one, but unfortunately nothing is ever simple with bruce. also apologies in advance if any of the future gotham war comics come out and completely debunk all of this! who knows what will happen in this dramatic family drama.

#bruce wayne #gotham war #dc meta #saki anons #saki comic talks #i have such a toxic relationship with this run #i have nothing but complaints and hate for it #but its so terrible i cant wait to see how it all crash and burns #the most “it gets worse before it gets better” storyline for batman i have EVER seen

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ao3feed-jaytim · 1 year

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Power Construct

read it on the AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/46944580 by Reddinwing Jason comes back to Gotham with a plan, a grudge and a newfound urge to kill. Not necessarily in that order. Except that his intel on the current state of the city must be out of date at best, because by the time he returns to Gotham, Timothy Drake owns at least a third of it. Words: 3905, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English Fandoms: DCU, Batman - All Media Types, Red Robin (Comics), Red Hood and the Outlaws (Comics) Rating: Explicit Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: M/M Characters: Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, Kon-El | Conner Kent, Damian Wayne Relationships: Tim Drake/Jason Todd Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Crimes & Criminals, Crime Boss Tim Drake, Smut, Bottom Jason Todd, Top Tim Drake, This is Gonna Get Kinky Guys read it on the AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/46944580

#IFTTT #Ao3feed #Jaytim #DC

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ao3feed-jaydick · 2 months

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Family Chaos

read it on the AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/53828158 by batgirl_sadgirl OC, Alayadara/Alaya. She is the third adopted child of Batman/Bruce Wayne. Adopted more than a year before Jason’s death she grew close with him. She enrolled in Gotham Academy and was there for a day before they informed Bruce that she tested high enough to take a GED test. Attended Gotham University and graduated with a specific focuses in environmental development and business. She is not a vigilante instead she remains the most public of the family, dealing with publicity of the family and her position within Wayne Enterprise. Many different scenarios, relatively chronological. Words: 1212, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English Fandoms: Batfamily - Fandom, Batman - All Media Types, Batman: Wayne Family Adventures (Webcomic), Nightwing (Comics), Nightwing (Web Series), Red Hood and the Outlaws (Comics), Red Hood: Outlaws - Patrick R. Young & Nico Bascuñan (Webcomic), Red Robin (Comics), Robin (Comics), Batman and the Signal (Comics) Rating: Not Rated Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Characters: Dick Grayson, Haley | Dick Grayson's Dog, Bruce Wayne, Titus | Damian Wayne's Dog, Ace the Bat-Hound (DCU), Alfred Pennyworth, Alfred the Cat (DCU), Bat-Cow (DCU), Goliath (DCU), Damian Wayne, Damian Wayne's Pets, Tim Drake, Jason Todd, Cassandra Cain, Duke Thomas, Stephanie Brown, Lucius Fox, Luke Fox, Justice League (DCU), Original Batfamily Member(s) (DCU), Batfamily Members (DCU), Artemis of Bana-Mighdall, Bizarro (DCU), Original Characters, Original Female Character(s) Relationships: Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Jason Todd & Bruce Wayne & Damian Wayne, Tim Drake & Reader, Cassandra Cain & Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Duke Thomas & Jason Todd & Bruce Wayne & Damian Wayne, Duke Thomas & Reader, Damian Wayne & Reader, Cassandra Cain & Reader, Stephanie Brown & Cass Cain & Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Duke Thomas & Jason Todd & Damian Wayne, Stephanie Brown & Reader, Jason Todd & Reader, Dick Grayson & Reader, Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Jason Todd & Damian Wayne & Reader, Bruce Wayne & Reader, Dick Grayson/Jason Todd, Alfred Pennyworth & Bruce Wayne, Batfamily Members & Alfred Pennyworth, Alfred Pennyworth & Reader, Batfamily Members & Original Female Character(s) Additional Tags: Family Fluff, Family Shenanigans, Bruce Wayne is Batman, Dick Grayson is Nightwing, Jason Todd is Red Hood, Alfred Pennyworth is the Best, Good Grandparent Alfred Pennyworth, Bruce Wayne is Good With Kids, Bruce Wayne Tries to Be a Good Parent, Bruce Wayne is Brucie Wayne, Good Parent Bruce Wayne, Good Parent Talia al Ghul, Protective Talia al Ghul, Talia al Ghul is Jason Todd's Parent, Tim Drake is Red Robin, Damian Wayne is Robin, Cassandra Cain is Black Bat, Stephanie Brown is Spoiler, Duke Thomas is Signal, Duke Thomas is a Batfamily Member, Alfred Pennyworth is Bruce Wayne's Parent, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Canon Compliant read it on the AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/53828158

#IFTTT #AO3feed #Jaydick #DC

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ao3feed-brucewayne · 2 months

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Family Chaos

read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/U5JEIKt by batgirl_sadgirl OC, Alayadara/Alaya. She is the third adopted child of Batman/Bruce Wayne. Adopted more than a year before Jason’s death she grew close with him. She enrolled in Gotham Academy and was there for a day before they informed Bruce that she tested high enough to take a GED test. Attended Gotham University and graduated with a specific focuses in environmental development and business. She is not a vigilante instead she remains the most public of the family, dealing with publicity of the family and her position within Wayne Enterprise. Many different scenarios, relatively chronological. Words: 1212, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English Fandoms: Batfamily - Fandom, Batman - All Media Types, Batman: Wayne Family Adventures (Webcomic), Nightwing (Comics), Nightwing (Web Series), Red Hood and the Outlaws (Comics), Red Hood: Outlaws - Patrick R. Young & Nico Bascuñan (Webcomic), Red Robin (Comics), Robin (Comics), Batman and the Signal (Comics) Rating: Not Rated Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Characters: Dick Grayson, Haley | Dick Grayson's Dog, Bruce Wayne, Titus | Damian Wayne's Dog, Ace the Bat-Hound (DCU), Alfred Pennyworth, Alfred the Cat (DCU), Bat-Cow (DCU), Goliath (DCU), Damian Wayne, Damian Wayne's Pets, Tim Drake, Jason Todd, Cassandra Cain, Duke Thomas, Stephanie Brown, Lucius Fox, Luke Fox, Justice League (DCU), Original Batfamily Member(s) (DCU), Batfamily Members (DCU), Artemis of Bana-Mighdall, Bizarro (DCU), Original Characters, Original Female Character(s) Relationships: Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Jason Todd & Bruce Wayne & Damian Wayne, Tim Drake & Reader, Cassandra Cain & Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Duke Thomas & Jason Todd & Bruce Wayne & Damian Wayne, Duke Thomas & Reader, Damian Wayne & Reader, Cassandra Cain & Reader, Stephanie Brown & Cass Cain & Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Duke Thomas & Jason Todd & Damian Wayne, Stephanie Brown & Reader, Jason Todd & Reader, Dick Grayson & Reader, Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Jason Todd & Damian Wayne & Reader, Bruce Wayne & Reader, Dick Grayson/Jason Todd, Alfred Pennyworth & Bruce Wayne, Batfamily Members & Alfred Pennyworth, Alfred Pennyworth & Reader, Batfamily Members & Original Female Character(s) Additional Tags: Family Fluff, Family Shenanigans, Bruce Wayne is Batman, Dick Grayson is Nightwing, Jason Todd is Red Hood, Alfred Pennyworth is the Best, Good Grandparent Alfred Pennyworth, Bruce Wayne is Good With Kids, Bruce Wayne Tries to Be a Good Parent, Bruce Wayne is Brucie Wayne, Good Parent Bruce Wayne, Good Parent Talia al Ghul, Protective Talia al Ghul, Talia al Ghul is Jason Todd's Parent, Tim Drake is Red Robin, Damian Wayne is Robin, Cassandra Cain is Black Bat, Stephanie Brown is Spoiler, Duke Thomas is Signal, Duke Thomas is a Batfamily Member, Alfred Pennyworth is Bruce Wayne's Parent, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Canon Compliant read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/U5JEIKt

#IFTTT #bruce wayne #batman #the caped crusader #the dark knight #dcu #ao3 #ao3feed

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arty-shadow-morningstar · 3 years

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Treasure Hunter AU

I binged watch the Mummy trilogy while i had no wifi/internet for a while and I had an idea for a treasure hunter Mari with Daminette.

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Damian was bored.(age: 22-28 years old.)

At a gala party.

Meets Marinette who was equally bored.(abt the same age as D)

He finds out she was the finder of this famous artifact on display.

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Damian tugged at his collar, scanning the crowd. His father needed a plus one to show up with and everyone else were busy.

He grabbed a champagne flute and made his way to the edge of the room.

He found a woman in a black evening gown, looking as bored as he felt. short dark hair. Blue eyes.( I suck at describing people after the third time doing it. It feels overrated)

"Hello, stranger. You bored with mingling in with the assholes on their high horses?"

"Should I be offended?"

"We will see. Depends on you."

"How about you? A beautiful lady like you not kissing up their asses to climb the social ladder. That is strange."

She made a face. "Trust me. I don't want to be here but my friend wanted family time so I came in his place. What about you? Why are you here?"

"I am pretty sure my father wanted someone to get him out if the vultures came too close."

"Vultures, adept descriptions. I am glad no one realized who I am yet or i would be in their claws."

"Who are you representing, anyways?"

"Myself but Adrien or Kagami usually comes in my place but tonight, they have their son's play to go to."

"Adrien and Kagami. Aren't they the Agreste-Tsrungi?"

"Yep."

"You are the Marinette Dupain-Cheng. Globe trotting Treasure hunter and also world-class designer, MDC."

"Now you know. What's your name, handsome stranger?"

"You don't know?"

"Hey. Like you said globetrotting treasure hunter. I am not up-to-date on the news front. And when I am in Paris to do designer stuff, i am too busy to look at the news."

He gave her his hand, "Damian Wayne. Son of Bruce Wayne who is a billionaire and owns Wayne Enterprise."

She shook it.

"Pleased to meet you."

She stills design but like sent her designs to Adrien at least once every month, who had rebranded Gabriel to Miraculous Designs.

Some ppl thinks he did it to spite his father, who is in jail. Adrien and Mari has a partnership thing.

Mari also makes clothes but for a few months. And the rest of the time is spent travelling.

Exclusive designs from MDC are rare but the designs hand made by her are rarer so they are like a really big deal. They have the most amazing details. Really expensive and limited edition.

The rest of the time Mari spends finding Miraculouses (Miraculi ?) lost in the world so if she happens to find a few priceless artifacts that aren't the Miraculous. She donates it.

Alix helps and sometimes go find them with her.

She has Tikki and Plagg and maybe Wyazz all the time to look for curses and counter it.

She has also met John Constantine. They have an arrangement of sorts. A few magical artifacts that doesn't have to Miraculous business are given to him in exchange for any miraculous stuff he has or found.

Adrien funds her trips.

He is married to Kagami.

Kagami goes with Mari and Alix for a few months sometimes. Adrien likes being a stay at home dad.

Their kid is named Marin/Martin because it was Mari who got them together.

The few trips Mari dragged him on was enough to make him stay behind and run the business.

(Back to the story) Damian fangirled a little because Mari had been doing stuff like this since she was 18.

It was an amazing reputation she has.

She invites him to her next trip after questioning his skill sets.

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"Are you good with heights, dark scary places and adventuring into the unknown?"

"Yes"

"You any good with guns, swords, knives, booby traps and keeping calm under pressure?"

"Yes. I have many experiences with them."

"Can you keep a secret?"

"Yes. Why are you asking me this?"

"Wanna join me on my next trip to the jungle of China? There are myths about some hidden temple."

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Damian was a little conflicted.

He hadn't have the chance to explore the world much. He had been somewhere else for a mission (for the League of Shadows or JL business) but never for pleasure.

Being a vigilante by night and working at Wayne Enterprise by day gets a little boring after some years.

His brothers had a chance to travel the world on their own for a while. Sure, for reasons other than sight-seeing and looking for something to break out of the rut he was in. But still.

This was an exciting opportunity but a tad suspicious.

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"Why me?"

She looked surprised at that.

"Oh. Well, my friends enjoy coming with me on my adventures, treasure hunting and all that every now and then except Adrien but they have other things in their life to come with me all the time. I can mostly survive on my own most of the time but it gets lonely travelling on my own and it's nice if someone is there to watch my back. I understand if you don't want to come. It's just that I enjoy your company and you aren't like those assholes on their high horses. My gut feeling says I can trust you. You are not after the treasure or see it as one big game. You are looking for an escape. You would definitely catch me if I fall. As you know from my choice of friends, i have a bad habit of pulling rich kids from their stuffy lifestyle and take them on potentially life-threatening adventures." She joked. Then she lowered her voice, "Besides, it might be handy having a former assassin around."

She said in Arabic.

His hand went to his hidden knife and found it not there.

"Looking for this?" She said, holding it.

"How much do you know?" He hissed back in the same language.

"Relax," she gave back the knife, "my mother was one and I have accidentally came across a few in my adventures. I know one when i see one. I took a stab in the dark with your middle-eastern background. Speaking of, you know Talia Al Ghul by any chance."

He narrowed his eyes.

"She's my mother. Why?"

"You look like her. Met her a few times. Nice lady but scary. Mine's Sabine Cheng, goes by the Blue Reaper." She said it so casually like their parents weren't dangerous deadly assassins and had normal jobs.

"You aren't normal, are you?"

"What gave it away?"

"That you willingly gave away blackmail material to me."

"Normal people don't have assassins for mothers. And you and me aren't exactly meeting the minimum standards for normal. Besides, I just told you a family secret that you would have found out anyways with a through background search and a little digging. So far all I know about you is that your parents are Talia Al Ghul and Bruce Wayne-I wonder how an assassin got together with a billionaire-, you are a former League of Shadows assassin, you are great with weapons, keeping secrets and so far meeting the criteria for an adventure buddy. That's all I swear. And that you have some pets. A cat, maybe."

"How you know about my cat?!"

"Cat hair on your clothes." She was good. "If it will ease your mind about me, you can ask me 5 questions that I will truthfully answer. "

"So why are you doing this?"

"That's question 1. Well, I really want whatever this is between us to work. Partners, Friends, Companions, Comrades. Whatever you want to call it. Like I said, I get lonely sometimes and need some human interaction to at least keep myself sane. You looked like you want to be somewhere else and I thought this is perfect. I am not going to tell anyone about you or push you to join me. I swear on my mother's sword."

"Are we killing anybody?"

"Mostly I try to avoid that as much as possible. Sometimes I get into situations with no other alternative. " She looked away guiltily.

"Fair enough."

"Not judging me for that. That's a first for me."

"I am a former assassin and have killed before. I have no right to condemn you for your past."

"How much are you willing to tell me about this hidden temple?"

"That has to do with a secret. I would tell you more when there are less ears around. But this temple was said to hold a magic jewel that grants some powers and it is located really deep in the jungle. Getting there might take months."

"You forgot to mention that last one."

"Oh yeah. You think you can get away for some months. This kind of stuff usually takes a while. Like I said before, no pressure. Anyway, 2 questions left."

"What's my salary?"

"Aren't you a billionaire?"

"My father is. I have a trust fund and I get a salary for doing my job at the company. You are lucky that I just finished with most of my assigned projects so I might be able to come."

"I am so sorry about just assuming things about you. You can say no to the offer. The temple is said to hold some other treasures but I mainly want the jewel. We could auction off a few bits and pieces. I usually just donate them to museums and universities or sell them to those who really appreciate the history. I would also pay for the entire expenses for the trip."

"Can I think about this?"

"Sure. Here's my number. I leave on the 1st of next month. Gimme an answer a week before that so I can make the proper arrangements. It has been fun talking to you, Damian."

She walked away, going towards the buffet table.

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Back in the car on the way home to the manor.

Bruce asked, "Who were you talking to for that long?"

"Who?"

"The one that gave you her number."

"Oh. MDC. She invited me to join her in China next month to find some hidden temple."

"She did?"

"Yes. Not only that she found out about mother and know what I did before I came here. She doesn't know about Batman, Robin or Crow. And she said she wasn't going to blackmail me but just wanted a companion to go with her. Ideally, it would be best to silence her before she digs any further into me but I trust her. I sincerely believe that she meant it when she said that she's not going to tell on me. And I am really tempted to take up on it."

"What do you want to do?"

"On one hand, i would be gone for months so there won't be Crow in Gotham for a while and I have a few projects I need to finish up. On the other hand. Father, I have been a vigilante for over 10 years now and I haven't really done much out besides that, school and now work. I have appreciated all you have done for me over the years. But I want to go with her. Do something that is not connected to Batman or Wayne or Al Ghul. Just a little something different for myself."

"You can go if you want. I am not going to stop you. I will make arrangements so the projects would be done by someone else. The others can cover your patrols. You are still young so it is understandable to want some fun every now and then."

"Thank you, Father."

Bruce put his hand on his shoulder.

"I am proud of you as Crow and as Damian Wayne. But if you want to go find some hidden temple in China just for a break from this life, to be just Damian, go for it. There are worse things you could do. Just tell me if you are going to go on any future trips like that." (I don't know DC much, sorry if that is a little OOC but I like good dad! Bruce.)

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Damian dialed the number on the card.

"Hello"

"I accept your offer, miss MDC."

"Damian? Right, text me your email address. I will sent you things you would need to pack and flight details. And can you come by to the Gotham Rose Hotel tomorrow? I will give more details on the temple."

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Damian comes by the hotel.

Marinette tells him of the kwamis and miraculous and makes him swear to not tell anyone unless they already know.

The hidden temple actually might have a miraculous.

Damian gets a little interested in the akuma situation she mentioned.

Mari doesn't say anything about it much.

When he got back, he goes to the Bat-computer and did some digging.

Ladybug looks a little familiar. Pulls up younger picture of Mari and look at that, she used to be a superhero.

Wonder Woman was kept informed of things and made sure no one goes to Paris without her knowing.

Zatanna helped capture the villain Hawkmoth and end his 2 year reign.

Fast forward, they are in Beijing now, sleeping off jetlag.

The next morning, They get out of the city somehow to the city limits and somewhere remote.

Mari uses Kalki and transports them to the jungle.

They set up camp. Cue Campfire stories.

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"I thought getting here would take months."

"No actually, finding the temple would. According to my research and the map I copied through less than legal means, it is somewhere in this general area. There used to a city around here too and the king or emperor pissed off some powerful priest or wizard, take your pick. There was a curse. The city crumbled down and the temple is the only thing standing because the king went there and prayed to the gods for protection. The one who answered his prayers and protected the temple in doing so the king was pressed into service of the god. The king did everything the god said for a while but later, he started to hate it and began disobeying the orders. The god cursed him for his disobedience. The temple he was protected in became his tomb and he was tasked to protect the chest inside the temple for the rest of eternity. Anyone who opens the chest would gain the ultimate power to rule the earth. Thankfully, we are not after the chest. Some powerful crack-head with a misused miraculous tried to find it and open the chest for more power. But he never returned. My theory is that the miraculous is still in the temple. As long as we don't wake up the king or go for the chest, we would be okay."

"What are the guns for? And How did you get them past security?"

"In case of emergencies, an army of undead was mentioned and guns are surprisingly good repellent. Well, most of the time. It's useless if there is a no weapons can kill 'it' rule. Then, it's just a stress reliever. I kept them in a pocket dimension. Makes it easier to get around."

Damian vowed to never let Marinette meet Jason. Judging by the pile of guns and occasional knives and other weapons she took out of the brown satchel which apparently holds a pocket dimension, Jason would adopt her. He wondered if that was all that was inside in.

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They packed up and started searching the jungle for hidden temple.

It was a month and a half before they found it.

They bonded a lot during that time.

They had a moment after drinking a little alcohol which Mari has in the pocket dimension. Or Drank a lot of alcohol and had sex.

It was awkward and they both agree to not talk about it again.

Soon after, they found the temple. But it is still a little far away.

But the temple is not the only thing they found. They also found a campsite with many people milling around. Some of them carried guns.

Somewhat rich bastard who overheard their conversation at the gala. Heard treasure and found out where Mari's next expedition is.

Had the help of some scholar who wants to be famous for the greatest find since King Tut.

They found the temple even though they had no magical help, they left 2 weeks before Mari did, so yeah.

Rich Bastard's name is 'Philip Anderson'(This sounds familiar to me for some reason and I can't find out why.) and Scholar is 'Harry Scott'

They have armed bodyguards and some 'hired' help to get the treasure.

Anderson is still rich but his company had been getting losses the past 2 years and this is a quick, easy get rich scheme.

Mari and Damian: "Rich asshole on his high horse."

Anderson doesn't know about the chest but Mari and Damian thinks he does and it was what he was after.

They set up camp a little further ahead of Anderson's

Unfortunately, they were found by Harry. Somehow.

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I am going to continue this when I am more awake.

#damian x marinette #daminette #maribat #mlb x dc #treasurehunter! Mari #explorer!Mari #there isn't much of this

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fantastic-nonsense · 3 years

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Hearing that Robin is LGBTQ my dad got me a subscription to the current Robin title. my ask is Robin's new love interest one of the guys in the tournament if not does he show up later? The 1st 2 issues arrived today so I can't tell. Also in the web series that my pal suggested, Robin's much younger. Is that series set in the past? He's also darker in the web series. Not complaining since I guess it's stylistic choice. Thanks in advance. New to comics and really enjoying both comics series

Hi! Sorry for the delay in answering this.

Have some bad and good news for you:

Hearing that Robin is LGBTQ, my dad got me a subscription to the current Robin title. my ask is Robin's new love interest one of the guys in the tournament if not does he show up later? The 1st 2 issues arrived today so I can't tell.

So, the Robin in the Robin title your dad got you a subscription for is Damian Wayne, the fifth and current Robin, who (as of now) is straight. The queer Robin is Tim Drake, the third Robin, who's been known as Red Robin for the past decade or so and is currently Gotham's acting Robin while he's having an identity crisis and Damian is off doing his thing in the Robin book. Yes, it's confusing having two Robins at the same time; we can all sympathize. But they're different characters, which accounts for most of the confusion you're expressing.

Damian's new love interest is probably(???) Flatline, the girl with the rad skeleton and heartline aesthetic who killed him in Issue #1:

Tim's new love interest is Bernard Dowd, an old school friend who was previously a semi-regular character in the later issues of Tim's Robin book:

So the book you're now reading is focused on Damian rather than Tim, which is not the book you want to read if you want to learn more about Tim, but it's still a great book focused on a great character, so if your dad wants to keep getting it for you I would keep up with it!

Also in the web series that my pal suggested, Robin's much younger. Is that series set in the past? He's also darker in the web series. Not complaining since I guess it's stylistic choice.

I'm guessing this is about Wayne Family Adventures? The basic answer is that WFA is basically a canon AU; it takes place in an alternate reality that is completely out of the main continuity, so it doesn't have to worry about whatever's happening in the main universe and can basically do what it wants. This accounts for the majority of any age/canon/etc discrepencies that you'll see.

WFA appears to be set in a universe where Damian came to the Batfam much earlier than he did in canon (canonically, he was ten when he first met Bruce; WFA apparently has Damian celebrating his 9th birthday at the Manor, implying a much earlier meeting and integration than in the main universe).

As for his skintone, Damian (who is biracial and Bruce's biological son with Talia al Ghul) has been portrayed with varying skintones over the years, ranging from "basically white" to "very visibly brown":

The WFA artist/colorist has, in the vein of artists like Patrick Gleason and colorists like John Kalisz, deliberately chosen to color Damian darker and make him more visibly biracial instead of the carbon copy of Bruce some artists like to portray him as.

Neither are inherently particularly wrong ways to depict Damian (given that he was canonically white-passing in his early appearances and noting the changing visual appearances of both Ra's and Talia over the years), but personally I think it's value added when Damian a) isn't visually a tiny version of his dad, and b) visually reflects his mixed heritage.

Thanks in advance. New to comics and really enjoying both comics series

Not a problem. If you'd like to read more about Tim (including his coming-out story), I'd recommend you check out my Batfam starter comic recs list! It pretty much lays out the comics you'd want to read if you want to read more about Tim or Damian (or any of the other Batfamily members, for that matter). Welcome to the fandom, and glad you're enjoying both comic series!

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How old would you say Carrie is? Because I know she’s been Robin, but she was also Damian’s tutor in acting. Which number Robin would she be? And got any headcanons about her and Damian?

Technically, she’s been the third Robin + Batgirl + Batwoman (we ignore Catgirl), but she’s also from an alternate universe and her existence is barely canon. I refer to her as Batgirl and I kinda envision her with this costume instead of that bright pink and green disaster one. For me, personally, (and I know I’m way off), I put Carrie at 13 as Batgirl and Damian around 10–12 as Robin, making them the two youngest.

(Also, she can definitely still be his acting teacher because I’ve seen some kid coaches.)

Headcanons below the cut

Carrie is great at acting and Damian’s not too bad himself, so when Jason’s in a bad mood they’ll act out Shakespeare for him

As the youngest, they get away with pinning a lot of things on their older siblings. Steph and Tim are the main victims

Carrie convinced Damian to buy matching Heelys as a “tactical advantage”

Damian can no doubt hold down his own in a fight, but still, the batfamily better not hear about anyone messing with their baby brother. People can expect Dick’s lectures or Jason’s guns, but it’s Carrie they fear the most because she’s ridiculously protective and no one knows when or how she’s gonna strike (she once flooded a kid’s bedroom for calling Damian a bad word)

They watched Star Wars one time and they decided to engineer real lightsabers (and Duke took the heat for it ‘cause he showed them the movie)

These two are not allowed to be on the same snowball fighting team on account of the time Carrie slingshotted snow-encased rocks and Damian carved an ice blade

They’re the resident snitches that the rest have to look out for. Carrie usually does it accidentally because she’s a chatterbox who talks before thinking. Damian does it intentionally

Carrie makes an agreement with Jon Kent so there’s always someone cheerful and optimistic to balance out Damian

They recreated Homeward Bound with Ace, Titus, and Alfred the cat

Carrie mastered the puppy eyes. Damian mastered the tantrum. Together they can get whatever they want (especially from Dick)

They have blackmail on each other. Damian has receipts from when Carrie lied about her age to rent The Wolf of Wall Street while Carrie has video evidence of Damian calling the cat a “pwecious wittle kitty-witty cutie-patootie”

One time when the Riddler was monologuing they just pushed him into the harbor

They tried to get into a club with a fake ID and the “two kids in a trenchcoat” trick. It failed, and now there’s a running where the others point at tall objects and say “look, it’s Damian and Carrie”

Damian’s jealous of Carrie’s Girl Scout badges because those are a measurable sign of achievement, so she buys a button maker and creates ones for Damian for things like defusing bombs and adopting animals

Carrie is great at rollerskating. Damian is hilariously terrible

Bruce can carry one under each arm

They’ve declared Wayne Manor an animal sanctuary and nobody is allowed to call an exterminator on the bugs and rats

Carrie, for some reason, loves playing Rainbow Road on Mario Kart, which is why Damian refuses to play with her

They once got their fidget spinners and throwing stars mixed up, so Damian wound up bringing five Spongebob fidget spinners into battle and Carrie got detention for playing with a shuriken in class

Damian tracked down the Rogues’ hideout and Carrie went there with pots and pans like “I ain’t get no sleep ‘cause of y’all—”

#ask #damian wayne #robin #carrie kelley #batgirl #batfamily #batfam #batbros #batboys #batgirls #batkids #batsiblings #batclan #batman family #dc comics #headcanon #tw gun mention #tw violence mention

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Chapters: 5/7 Fandom: Super Sons (Comics), Batman - All Media Types, Superman - All Media Types Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Jonathan Kent/Damian Wayne, Jonathan Samuel Kent/Damian Wayne Characters: Damian Wayne, Jonathan Samuel Kent, Maya Ducard, Collin Wilkes, Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, Duke Thomas, Cassandra Cain, Alfred Pennyworth, Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, Lois Lane, Kon-El | Conner Kent, Kara Zor-El Additional Tags: Roommates, Domestic Fluff, adopting a pet, High School, Jealousy, Running Away, Partners in Crime, Fake/Pretend Relationship, getting caught, Heartbeats, Not Actually Unrequited Love, Alternate Universe - Royalty, Masquerade, Family Vacation, Marriage Proposal, JonDami Week 2021 Summary:

Hey hey hey! 5th day of the @jondami-week and here I am throwing some angst at your face.

Chapter 5: Heartbeat | “i thought i lost you” | Not actually unrequited love

You can also read it under the cut

When the giant ships appeared in the middle of the sky, the Justice League took no time in moving their biggest assets against them. Superboy was supposed to be one of them, but he was too busy mopping on his bed. His father had told him they had it covered, it was a race that had tried previously to invade them and Batman had a good plan to stop them, but still it did not make him feel better knowing he should be helping instead of being a dramatic teenager. But he could not help himself if his heart had been broken like that. He had spent years crushing after his best friend, thinking that maybe someday his feelings would be reciprocated. And for a moment, he thought there was a chance, they had held hands and went to the cinema together. It should count, right?

So why had he caught Damian kissing another girl then?

The images did not stop playing in his mind. How Damian put his hand on her shoulder, how he bent to join his lips with her. How his heart had shattered into a million pieces. But the worst is that he could not really complain about anything, because Damian and he were nothing, it was probably all in his head. Robin would continue his life without knowing his best friend was in love with him and that was fine. Really. Super fine.

But still, he could not avoid tunning sometimes to the steady rhythm of Damian’s heartbeat, even if it was just so he could keep a connection with him. So of course, when the invasion started, he kept listening just in case, to make sure Robin was all right. Until the third day of the invasion, the sound stopped.

Jon had never gotten up from bed faster in his life. He reached the last place where he listened to the heartbeat in mere seconds, still in his sweatshirt and shorts. The place was complete wreckage, with debris everywhere and parts of alien ships crushed against the floor. A few green batarangs were laying on a corner, where the trail of blood started.

“Robin!” he screamed, the fear obvious in the trembling of his voice. “No, no, no, no, please Rao don’t take him,” the red path led him to a little corner where he could see a familiar green boot. “Damian!”

And he could almost hear his voice complaining about using his real name on the field, but he could not care less about this when he discovered his best friend in a pool of blood. A few lead plates had fallen over him, so he threw them away with his super strength. The material was probably the reason why he could not hear his heartbeat, there was still hope. He took his body into his arms and started flying into the closest medical wing.

“Please, Damian, there are so many things I haven’t told you,” the tears were falling down his face but the boy in his arms did not move. “You can’t leave me, you are my best friend, my partner, you… you are the person I love, Damian, and I know you have a girlfriend now but I don’t…”

“W-what g-g-girlfriend?” the sound barely escaped his lips.

“D!” he smiled. “Oh please, don’t talk, we are almost arriving, just hold on a little bit and…”

“What girl?” asked with more emphasis.

“The girl from last week? You were kissing her and…”

“I was taking something from her eye you stupid moron,” he groaned. “Why the heck would I kiss someone when we are dating?”

“Wait, we are dating? Since when?”

“I asked you to come with me to that stupid movie! We held hands! I paid for your popcorns!”

“I’m… I’m not sure how that means we are dating.”

“Grayson said that what I should do,” Damian tried to move but violent coughing stopped him.

“Okay, fine, we are dating, just please stop talking. It would really suck if my boyfriend suddenly dies in my arms.”

“I’m never going to listen to him again.”

Jon could not avoid smiling a little bit when Damian snuggled against his chest and when a few hours later his heartbeat was still ringing in his ear, he let himself relax. He almost losses the person he loves today but he was going to make sure he enjoyed every second from now.

#jondami week #jondami week 2021 #damian wayne #jon kent #jonathan samuel kent #jondami #damijon #super sons #batman media #superman media #fanfic

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Chapters: 6/? Fandom: Batman - All Media Types, Under the Red Hood Rating: Mature Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings, Graphic Depictions Of Violence Relationships: Dick Grayson/Jason Todd, Dick Grayson & Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson & Donna Troy, Tim Drake & Dick Grayson, Barbara Gordon & Dick Grayson, In which Dick Grayson collects people like Pokemon and everyone is too fond to stop him, Minor or Background Relationship(s), Garth & Dick Grayson & Roy Harper & Donna Troy & Wally West, Tim Drake & Damian Wayne Characters: Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Bruce Wayne, Tim Drake, Damian Wayne, Alfred Pennyworth, Barbara Gordon, Donna Troy, Roy Harper, Teen Titans (DCU), Joker (DCU), Stephanie Brown, Cassandra Cain, Jim Gordon Additional Tags: Dick Grayson gets the support system he deserves, Big Brother Dick Grayson, Dick Grayson is Nightwing, Jason Todd is Red Hood, Alternate Universe - Same Age, the same age robin au no one asked for or wanted but they're getting anyways, Dick has Issues™ no one is remotely sure how to deal with any of these issues, Timeline What Timeline, Dick Grayson's Unrelenting Stubbornness™, Protective Jason Todd, Protective Dick Grayson, Private Investigator Dick Grayson, Grossly self-indulgent, Alfred Pennyworth is the Best, Bats in Gotham have a bad habit of collecting people in general, Families of Choice, Bat Family, Protective Bruce Wayne, Bruce Wayne's C+ Parenting, Fluff and Humor, Angst with a Happy Ending, Hurt/Comfort, Codependency, Obligatory Jane Austen References, POV Third Person Limited, Resolved Sexual Tension, Mutual Pining Series: Part 1 of Same-Age Robins AU Summary:

Gotham has twin birds that soar her skies, one to flitter about and distract, the other to misdirect and attack. The Bat calls them both ‘Robin’.

The AU wherein Batman having two Robins is a staple of a stable timeline and Dick Grayson gets an impulse control in form of a Crime Alley mutt.

New chapter update!

#jaydick #dickjay #strific

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An Amateur Review of Ridley Pearson’s Super Sons

Please be aware: This will contain some spoilers for the Super Sons graphic novels written by Ridley Pearson. If you do not wish to be spoiled on plot or character development, please stop reading this and come back once you’ve read through the books yourselves. Otherwise, enjoy this amateur review.

INTRODUCTION

As someone who grew up reading comics from Marvel, DC, IDW, and Archie, it was always fun when legacy characters were introduced or focused on. Characters that were students or the children of characters that my parents grew up with always felt nice to me, and even relatable when they were introduced or shown to be growing up in a similar or the same time period as my friends and I. Taking this into account, it’s no wonder that by the time I was in high school, some of my favorite comics involved Damian Wayne/Robin and Jonathan Kent/Superboy. Yes, I was definitely older than them by the time their series came in, but some of the problems they faced, even the small ones, seemed familiar to my own. Problems such as Jon’s reluctance of moving away from Hamilton County to Metropolis where he’d be leaving behind people he’s known for years into what is essentially a foreign environment for him, or both characters having to live up to the examples their parents have set; something I’m sure many of us can relate to as children are always compared to their parents or successful family members. The growing friendship between them was always a highlight no matter what type of adventure they were on.

In 2019, Ridley Pearson and Ile Gonzalez released the first book in their 3-part series starring Jon and Damian in a sort of rebooted universe. Fan feedback at the time was mixed, with some fans unhappy and others just happy they were getting more content featuring their favorite duo. Personally, I wasn’t paying attention all that much; I was in the middle of college and my focus had drifted away from comic books that year to focus on my studies, but with the recent pandemic and more time to read I’ve fallen back into the rabbit hole of super heroes and villains. I remember there being an outcry against the books when the previews began to be released, but after they did release and finished their run, I didn’t hear anything. No one really actively talked about what the books were about and most of what I heard seemed to come from people who read a handful of pages, if at all, and then never finished it. So, I decided to put my two cents in and read them. I’ll be looking at them as someone who has been a fan of their main-like counterparts for years, and as someone who also acknowledges that this isn’t canon to it and is an alternate universe (or alternate Earth in the cases of the DC comics multiverse), if anything to look at it from a neutral perspective.

It should be noted that this isn’t the first time I’ve read through Ridley Pearson’s work. In middle school and even through high school, I couldn’t get enough of Kingdom Keepers and Peter and the Starcatcher, even getting tickets to see the touring cast of the latter’s theater adaptation when they came to my state. I’ve read a few interviews on his work with the Super Sons before going into the books themselves, and he doesn’t neglect to say that this series isn’t connected to the normal DC canon (whatever that is these days; any comic book reader knows that reboots, especially for DC in the last decade, usually happen quite a bit). Okay, that’s probably a given, and it makes things easier considering the main target demographic are kids aged 10-14. There’s a lot of content to go over when it comes to everything connected to Damian and Jon, even more so for Batman and Superman, so this makes it less difficult for kids who don’t have much experience with DC outside of the occasional tv show and movie to get into it.

But what about the story itself?

THE STORY

(The majority of the story spoilers are beyond this point since I summarize the books. This is your last spoiler warning.)

The story itself takes place in an alternate future. America is called Coleumbria and the global climate crisis has gotten to the point where it’s a race to find a way to stop the rising temperatures and constant flooding. While Batman and Superman spearhead the projects set to stabilize and then reverse the Earth’s temperature, their sons are moved from Metropolis to a city called Wyndemer with other refugees looking to find somewhere safe from the floods. This causes tensions in the city to heighten as refugees, called “flood runners”, are harassed by locals. Without going too in-depth into the books (otherwise, we’d be here all day), I’m going to summarize them. Certain characters and events might be omitted, but hey, at least it gives you a reason to read them even if I tell you what they’re about.

The first book introduces us to this crisis and shows us how this world’s Jon (who still goes by Superboy in this) and Damian (who is going by Batkid) meet. While there’s some animosity between them at first, with Jon having a not-too-hidden bias against Bruce Wayne, the two eventually start to work together when they realize their individual investigations are connected. Jon and his classmate, Tilly, have been looking into a mysterious illness that’s hospitalized Jon’s mother among many others, and Damian has been investigating sabotages against Wayne Tech dams. They also meet a girl named Candace who is trying to uncover a mystery that’s plagued her since her mom’s passing. After finding clues at a food company called Sage Foods, the group is attacked and manages to escape after Jon is told their attackers were sent by a woman named Arvyc. After finding out that Candace and Damian had set Jon up earlier in the book to be attacked by a few gang members, the group have a short fight before they go to the train station to stop Arvyc’s gang.

The second book opens with the boys helping Candace make it to a boat while escaping a group of girls called The Four Fingers. While they didn’t have as much of a presence in the previous book, had been shown as adversaries of Candace’s. Continuing into their investigations into the virus, Jon and Tilly learn that it was man-made as Candace’s visions lead her toward Coleumbria’s capital. The Four Fingers, meanwhile, are adamant about finding Candace, so they’ve taken to stalking her friends, until they realize they’re “dead ends”, so they choose to follow their own leads. It is revealed that The Four Fingers and Candace all have powers that connects them to certain species of animals; with Candace, she has a connection to birds and she states her grandmother was the same. Tilly comes up with her own vigilante persona, Puppet Girl, and stays behind in Wyndemer as Damian and Jon leave to go to Cinapolis to find the virus’s source. However, the boys get captured and Tilly decides she needs to help them. Candace in the meantime has found an anointing oil her mother had left clues for her to find, which is the key to the throne of Landis, the country she and The Four Fingers come from. It ends with the Super Sons and Tilly saving Candace and helping her get on a boat back to Landis while Arvyc escapes from prison.

The third and final book opens with Jon, Damian, and Tilly trying to track Arvyc down and it’s obvious that they’ve been at this for some time now, but they soon become the hunted. Candace makes it back to Landis and finds one of the rebels her mom had led before she was arrested. As Candace continues on her journey, Jon, Damian, and Tilly are sent by Batman to a LexCorp lab to retrieve a virus sample, only to find it isn’t there. They decide to go to Landis since The Four Fingers were heading there with the virus (and Candace had gone with intentions to stop them), but Tilly needs to stay behind again. The boys and Candace continue their respective journeys through Landis, however a man who’s been pulling the strings from the shadows for the last two books, Sir Reale, has decided to send Arvyc after them along with Talia. Talia and Arvyc attack the boys who manage to outsmart them for the moment, and are reunited with Candace who has been tracking the virus with two warriors named Kizuka and Archer. Tilly, back in Coleumbia, is sent out to retrieve Damian and Jon by Bruce’s assistant, Patience. After meeting up with Tilly, the group find a lab where The Four Fingers have been preparing vials of the virus in order to release it via bombs, and a battle ensues where they learn that sunlight can kill the virus and that Talia is Damian’s mother. Learning that they couldn’t stop all of the shipments, the group gathers the people of the local town to help them in storming the factory. They succeed in killing the remaining virus, save for a vial to be used to create a cure. With Superman’s mission a success and Batman working on a cure, the book ends with Candace being crowned the new Empress of Landis, Jon’s mother waking up, and Batman making Damian Robin.

MY THOUGHTS ON THE STORY

All in all, the story was okay. Personally, I felt like it was rushed in some places, such as how we’re brought from one character or scene to the next with little to no transition or breathing space. The endings were also kind of abrupt, which I feel really brought down the ending for the final book. We don’t really linger on whether or not Superman’s efforts to reverse global worming worked or have a moment where Jon and his dad are able to reunite with Lois. I was also disappointed to see they didn’t go anywhere with the whole “Talia is revealed to be Damian’s mother he had never met before and barely knew anything about” sub plot they had going in book three. People who know me know that the League of Assassins and any character associated with them are among my favorite villains in the Batman mythos, and to see it be brought in only for it to not have anything done with it was disappointing. Heck, you could have taken Talia out of it and the story would have been the same minus Damian being momentarily shaken before getting back to business. At the very least, an ending scene where Bruce confirms she’s his mother would have been nice enough closure for it. This might have been due to there being a page limit (each book was roughly 151 pages long) which lead to things being cut out, but it’s still disappointing nonetheless, especially since I did find myself enjoying parts that had pacing problems.

Pacing and unresolved plotlines aside, some of the things I did enjoy though involved Candace’s story arc. She’s one of the characters made for this series, and watching her figure out her past and come into her own with her powers was really enjoyable. I also felt like small snippets of character interactions between the boys, Candace, and Tilly were really well written. They actually felt like kids.

THE CHARACTERS

Since there are a lot of characters in this series, I’m only going to focus on the four main characters since we’re with them the entire time.

Jonathan Kent is probably the one out of him and Damian who’s the closest to his original counterpart, and I don’t just mean in looks. While he doesn’t have as many powers as he’s come to have in the main DC canon, he does have some of the powers he has early on in his appearances, such as super speed, super hearing, x-ray vision, super strength, and being able to jump high/far. He’s a bit older here though, 12 instead of 10 making him closer to Damian’s age and allowing him to go to the same school as him and Tilly. He holds his dad’s lessons close and seems to be apprehensive about seriously hurting people, mainly in the beginning. Being older though, he’s a bit more mature than his counterpart was before he was aged up, and I feel that this version of Jon is a good blend between the two.

Damian Wayne on the other hand was given the most changes in terms of backstory and how he acts, which goes hand-in-hand. In the original continuity, he was raised by Talia and the League of Assassins, making him spoiled and a literal killer in the body of a child. Here, he was raised by Bruce (how or why, I don’t know. Talia wasn’t brought up until book 3 so I can only assume she gave him to Bruce as a baby and they agreed to never tell him for whatever reason) and Bruce refuses to let him be Robin, leaving Damian to become Batkid (which is a good reference to past incarnations of Batman’s son in older Elseworlds stories). He’s still arrogant and looks for a fight more than he should, but it doesn’t seem like he wants to kill. Beat up a guy who is already out of the fight, yes, but not kill. One thing people who’ve read the books will notice is I’ve been calling him Damian. Well, that’s out of habit; in this series he is pretty adamant about everyone calling him Ian. Why? Again, I don’t know, and part of me is bothered by it because we never find out why he hates his name. I can only assume Pearson had things planned that would explain this a bit more but had to cut them out due to page constraints.

Tilly is one of the characters made for this series, taking the name Puppet Girl as her secret idenity. She’s Jon’s friend and classmate, and is a computer expert, allowing for her to help the team from home until they need her to fly one of Bruce’s machines to them. She hangs around Jon a lot due to going to the same school and because both of them are interning for the Daily Planet. In all honesty, she reminds me of Kathy from before it’s revealed she has powers and is actually an alien since she acts as Jon’s best friend who isn’t Damian, as well as a girl who Jon might have a crush on or vice versa. The blond hair and the purple-pink outfit scheme doesn’t help.

Candace is our final main character and the second character made for this series. We meet her in the books before we meet Jon and Damian, and her story plays a huge role in the overall plot. Candace has been following a string of clues her mother left her shortly before her death, and we learn as the comic goes on that she’s meant to be the next Empress of her home country, Landis, but was forced to flee to Coleumbria when her family was usurped by a general. Over time, she unlocks her power to communicate and control birds, and later to control the weather. I found myself enjoying her story just as much, if not more than the plots that surrounded the title characters, which helps since her story is intertwined with theirs. If I had to compare her to an existing character in the DC canon, I’d say Wonder Woman due to her super human abilities and her being royalty.

THE ART

The art is also good, definitely better than what I can do. However, a complaint I do have is that the characters feel stiff and rigid. It might be the art style, but something felt off at times, mainly with the posing. Again, it’s still better than what I can do, but I feel like it could have been better. I did like how the backgrounds were vibrant and you could tell where the characters were just from a look, and the art is more detailed in general compared to other young reader graphic novels DC has been putting out. Art is pretty subjective, so I’m not going to go into this too much and a lot of these are my own opinions.

The art has come into debate as well, though not for the reasons I mentioned above. When previews for the first book started to be released, a lot of people were critical toward Candace and Damian, particularly toward their skin color. In the preview images, Candace was shown to have a blue-ish-gray tint (you can probably see why this didn’t go over well) and Damian was shown to be paler than Jon (Damian is shown in the original DC canon to be half Arabic and even though he was sometimes shown to have pale skin like Bruce’s, he was also shown to have a tanner complexion due to his mother’s side. Most fan interpretations as a result more often than not have him with tanned skin). After fan outcry, this was fixed with Candace getting a more natural skin tone and Damian’s being brought down to a darker shade than Jon’s. With Damian’s it’s more apparent in the second and third books since in the first one I did notices there were a few panels where his skin tone would be lighter than in others which makes me wonder if it was a last-minute recolor for the first book’s release.

FINAL THOUGHTS

All in all, I’d say it’s okay. It’s not great, it’s not bad; just okay. I honestly think that if Pearson and Gonzalez hadn’t been given a page limit then it could have been better since the pacing wouldn’t be as big of an issue and they would have been able to get through all of the mini arcs they had set up. They obviously wanted to tell a bigger story but were only given so much room to work with.

It’s obviously not for everyone, and it’s definitely not the Super Sons people like me have grown up with, but that’s okay. Some of the kids I used to babysit who fall into the range of “I’ve never really read DC comics and only ever saw a cartoon episode on TV” read these books too and they liked it. Same thing for the few kids who did have prior experience with the Super Sons. What dragged them in was the climate crisis and (for the ones who read them after the world went into a lockdown) the fact the characters were trying to find a cure for a virus that was similar to the flu. Yeah, and these were written way before 2020, so that’s actually an achievement on Pearson’s part.

You don’t have to like them; heck, I didn’t really have any interest in them because of the backlash from people like me until my friends started asking me to make this review. But maybe give them a chance. Find a kid in your family or friend group and see if they’d be interested, maybe you can read it together once the craziness of the last year’s calmed down.

#super sons #robin #batkid #superboy #damian wayne #jon kent #ridley pearson #ile gonzalez #review #book review #amateur review

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Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: DCU, DCU (Comics), Batman - All Media Types, Batman (Comics), Robin (Comics), Batgirl (Comics) Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Stephanie Brown & Tim Drake & Dick Grayson & Jason Todd & Damian Wayne, Stephanie Brown & Bruce Wayne, Stephanie Brown & Alfred Pennyworth Characters: Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Bruce Wayne, Damian Wayne, Alfred Pennyworth, Stephanie Brown Additional Tags: Alternate Universe, stephanie and her brothers, Good Grandparent Alfred Pennyworth Series: Part 14 of Stephanie Brown, Third Robin Summary:

the years are not always kind to this patchwork family, but one thing remains constant even when it feels like everything has changed.

#hey look i actually continued writing something #tag: katie writes things #stephanie brown #jason todd #dick grayson #damian wayne #tim drake #alfred pennyworth #bruce wayne #robin #dead robins club

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teentitanimals · 4 years

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Batfamily Teams

Generally goes oldest to youngest (in terms of average age of the team, not individual members). If a name is italicized, then it is not canonically a name they ever had, just one I made up/headcannoned, or stole from @newyoungjustice (who is AMAZING btw, please check them out!) or Earth-27. This is not every member ever, but I tried to hit all the main and important ones.

The Justice League (Core members listed only):

Bruce Wayne (Batman)

Clark Kent/Kal-El (Superman)

Diana Prince (Wonder Woman)

Oliver Queen (Green Arrow)

Dinah Lance (Black Canary)

Barry Allen (The Flash)

Arthur Curry (Aquaman)

J’onn J’onzz/John Jones (Martian Manhunter)

John Smith (Red Tornado)

Shayera Thal (Hawkwoman)

Katar Hol (Hawkman)

Zatanna Zatara (Zatanna)

Hal Jordan (Green Lantern)

John Stewart (Green Lantern)

Guy Gardner (Green Lantern)

Jessica Cruz (Green Lantern; alternatively, Power Ring)

Micheal Carter (Booster Gold)

Billy Batson (Shazam)

The Sirens:

Selina Kyle (Catwoman)

Harleen Quinzel (Harley Quinn)

Pamela Lillian (Poison Ivy)

Titans (Founders of the original Teen Titans):

Dick Grayson (joined as Robin; now Nightwing)

Wally West (joined as Kid Flash; now retired Flash)

Roy Harper (joined as Speedy; now Arsenal)

Donna Troy (retired Wonder Girl)

Garth Ranzz (joined as Aqualad; now Tempest)

Koriand’r/Kori Anders (Starfire)

Birds of Prey:

Barbara Gordon (Oracle; alternatively Oracle Alpha; formerly Batgirl)

Helena Bertinelli (The Huntress)

Dinah Lance (Black Canary)

Shayera Thal (Hawkwoman)

Zinda Blake (Lady Blackhawk)

Kate Kane (Batwoman)

Helena Wayne (The Huntress; nicknamed Little Hunt)

Karen Starr (Power Girl)

Cassandra Cain (joined as Batgirl; now Black Bat/Orphan)

Charlie Gage-Radcliffe (joined as Batgirl; now Misfit)

Titans (Joined the founding members later):

Victor Stone (Cyborg)

Rachel Roth (Raven)

Garfield Logan (Beast Boy)

Tara Markov (Terra; deceased)

Artemis Crock (joined as Artemis; now Tigress)

Karen Beecher (Bumblebee)

Barbara Gordon (joined as Batgirl; now Oracle)

Jason Todd (joined as Robin; now Red Hood)

Rose Wilson (Ravager)

Outlaws:

Jason Todd (Red Hood; formerly Robin)

Roy Harper (Arsenal; formerly Speedy)

Koriand’r/Kori Anders (Starfire)

Artemis of Bana-Mighdall (Artemis)

Bizarro II (Bizarro)

Rose Wilson (Ravager)

Kyle Rayner (Green Lantern)

Sasha Todd (Scarlet)

Lian Harper (Little Red Riding Hood)

Titans West (disbanded):

Garfield Logan (Beast Boy)

Bette Kane (joined as Flamebird; now Hawkfire)

Charley Parker (Golden Eagle)

Hank Hall (Hawk)

Don Hall (Dove; deceased)

Lilith Clay (Omen)

John Gnarkk (Gnarkk)

Teen Titans (“Third” Generation):

Kaldur’ahm/Jackson Hyde (joined as Aqualad; now Jekyll)

Tula zin’Marius (Aquagirl; deceased)

Christopher Kent/Lor-Zod (semi-retired Zenith)

Kara Danvers/Zor-El (Supergirl)

Virgil Hawkins (Static)

Tim Drake (joined as Robin; now Red Robin/Drake)

Jaime Reyes (Blue Beetle)

M’gann M’orzz/Megan Morse (Miss Martian)

Cassandra Cain (joined as Batgirl; now Black Bat/Orphan)

Stephanie Brown (Spoiler; formerly Batgirl and Robin)

Billy Batson (Shazam)

Young Justice:

Tim Drake (founded as Robin; now Red Robin/Drake)

Connor Kent/Kon-El (Superboy; nicknamed Kon)

Bart Allen (Impulse; formerly Kid Flash)

Cassie Sandsmark (Wonder Girl)

Cissie King-Jones (Arrowette)

Stephanie Brown (Spoiler; formerly Batgirl and Robin)

We are Robin:

Duke Thomas (joined as a Robin; now Signal)

Troy Walker (The Troy Wonder; deceased)

Daxton Chill (DaxAtax)

Andre Capriani (Dre-B-Robbin)

Riko Sheridan (R-iko)

Isabella Ortiz (Robina)

Carrie Kelley (Joined as a Robin; now Neon Batgirl)

Teen Titans (“Fourth” and “Fifth” Generations merged):

Wallace “Lace” West (Kid Flash)

Don Allen (½ The Tornado Twins)

Dawn Allen (½ The Tornado Twins)

Connor Hawke (joined as Speedy; now Red Arrow)

Damian Wayne (joined as Robin; now Flamebird)

Arthur “AJ” Curry Jr. (Aqualad)

Lian Harper (Little Red Riding Hood)

Milagro Reyes (Green Lantern)

Irey West II (Hyper)

Jai West (Velocity)

Super Sons:

Damian Wayne (joined as Robin; now Flamebird)

Jon Kent (Superboy)

New Young Justice (Name unofficial/a joke):

Damian Wayne (joined as Robin; now Flamebird)

Jon Kent (Superboy)

Kathy Branden (Beacon)

Maya Ducard (Nobody)

Lian Harper (Little Red Riding Hood)

Maps Mizoguchi (Oracle Omega; nicknamed Double O)

Colin Wilkes (Abuse)

Suren Darga (Darga)

Carrie Kelley (Neon Batgirl; formerly Robin)

League of Batgirls:

Barbara Gordon (Oracle; alternatively Oracle Alpha; formerly Batgirl)

Cassandra Cain (Black Bat/Orphan; formerly Batgirl)

Charlie Gage-Radcliffe (Misfit; formerly Batgirl)

Stephanie Brown (Spoiler; formerly Batgirl and Robin)

Bette Kane (Hawkfire; formerly Flamebird and Batgirl)

Carrie Kelley (Neon Batgirl; formerly Robin)

Tiffany Fox (Pink Batgirl)

Nell Little (Little Batgirl)

Teen Titans (“Sixth”, “Seventh” and “Eighth” Generations merged):

Tiffany Fox (Pink Batgirl)

Nell Little (Little Batgirl)

Tai Pham (Green Lantern)

Rani Carter (Bubble Girl)

Cynthia Lance (Sin)

Hippolyta Milton (Lyta)

Cerdian Ranzz (Cerdian)

Mar’i Grayson (Nightstar)

Jake Grayson (retired Robin)

Baby Birds of Prey (Name unofficial/a joke):

Lucy Quinzel (Columbine)

Lian Harper (Little Red Riding Hood)

Nell Little (Little Batgirl)

Cynthia Lance (Sin)

Hippolyta Milton (Lyta)

Not on a Team but Helps Out These Other Teams a Lot:

Julia Pennyworth (Penny-Two) [BoPs]

Harper Row (Bluebird) [BoPs, YJ, Third Gen TTs]

Cullen Row (Oracle Beta) [TTs and NWJs]

Alina Wayne (Oracle Gamma) [Sixth Gen TTs and BBoPs]

Luke Fox (Batwing) [TTs]

Timothy Fox (Vulture) [Seventh Gen TTs]

etc.

NOTES: i thought it’d be cool to have a little thing with Babs, Cullen, Maps and Alina where they’re all “Oracles”, so that’s why they’re Oracle Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Omega. Also, Carrie, Nell and Tiff were all “Batgirls-in-Training” before they got their ‘official’ Batgirl names. Both Helena-Huntresses exist in this universe, yes, as Helena Wayne crossed over from Earth Never-Two And Irey and Jai’s superhero names together make Hypervelocity, which I thought was super cool! :D

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