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hi thank you for all the aradia love this blog
do you have a favorite headcanon about her, even a very small/niche one?
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well i assume u mean aside from the one in the blog title lol
a fun one is this dumb imaginary report card i imagine sometimes
obviously i interpret her as autistic, but i also think shes asexual, sssomewhere on the aro spectrum? and agender! which is all fun because her name also starts with a. call that a straight-A student
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melancholysway · 1 year
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TMNT Imagines: Guide to Being their S/O!
Pretty lengthy, but for each version of the guys I'm giving a guide to being their s/o! if you guys haven't noticed, I'm not the best at writing for Mikey, I literally see him as a younger brother, not someone i would have a romantic interest in if that makes sense.
TMNT 2003
Leonardo
Okay yall
Please give him some time.
He's so hardworking and spiritually driven, that he's always getting caught up working on himself that he may lose track of time
It's not intentional at all, and he doesn't mean it, it's just that he's so determined to be the perfect leader that he has tunnel vision.
When he's not doing this, he's almost always with you, getting in tune with you, understanding your mindset. He's patient.
He's patient with you. If you don't want to tell him something or if something's bothering you in your life, he'll wait until you're ready. He doesn't pry, he knows that some require more patience than others.
meditate with him! He's very spiritual, and it's important that he continuously keeps up with the traditions his father taught him and grew up doing. He would really appreciate that you're participating in something he's passionate about.
Going back to him losing track of time and getting caught up in being perfect, TELL him he needs a break. He may not want to hear that, but you can tell he's in need of one. Try and get him to do something else that's less physically demanding, something to get his mind off of trying to be perfect
Cook for him! Yes, it's a universal rule that Leonardo cannot cook, and it's one less thing he can be great at, so, make something for him! He usually relies on Mikey to cook anyway, so he'd very much appreciate it if you cooked for him!
Be his eyes and ears. I feel as though 2003 Leo would love a s/o who's very in tune with themselves and has an open third eye. You may be able to see the things he misses (this is metaphoric btw) or hear things he may miss- become self-aware, become one with the world and nature, and your aura is something he'll love about you the most.
Raphael
Honestly, don't piss him off. He's already furious about the world around him.
If you're his s/o, you obviously haven't pissed him off, so, good job! You've also gotten close enough to where you cause him to actually have romantic feelings. Woohoo!
So, you wanna date 2003 Raph?
First off, don't mess with his family. Treat all his brothers with respect as they do you. Joke with them, spend time with them, and genuinely provide a great friendship for them. Raphael would not date anyone who he thought would hurt the family dynamic.
Do not be the mediator nor the instigator between him and Leo. it's simply sibling rivalry, and if it does get to a point where they physically fight, leave them. It may sound bad, but it's better for them to let it out than hold it all in just for it to blow out of proportion. Most of the time, they just have the steam to let out on each other.
Let Raphael know everything. Everything means the people in your life. He wants to know which guys are strictly friends, which ones you're hanging with, etc. He gets slightly insecure at the idea of you hanging out with other regular guys like yourself, but as long as you assure him that he's yours, he'll be fine.
Have him be your savior. It's not a burden to him at all, he WANTS to be your one and only protector! if you're walking alone and sense someone following you, call Raph. He'll be there in a heartbeat.
Be the one to bring him back to reality. He may let his anger get the best of him (this is very rare- like I've said before he's usually laid back, but he has his moments.) Calm him down, tell him to just yell it out and speak to you to better get his anger out instead of taking it out on innocent inanimate objects. He'll find he goes to you more when upset or mad about something, not the dojo (although this will take time.)
Be patient with Raph, he's new to this boyfriend thing, so let him know when you don't like something that he does, do NOT let it bottle up or keep your mouth shut, he WILL notice!
Donatello
Alright 2003 Donnie lovers!
Just to say, unless you really really, REALLY do something that would fuck up Donnie's head (ie; cheating) he will not yell at you. He's a pacifist. He doesn't yell, he doesn't scream. He won't lay a finger on you. NOT saying that the other turtles would, they absolutely wouldn't do that. But Donnie, it's impossible for him to.
It's not in his nature to be mean or violent. He's not like that. He will treat you like the god/goddess you are as long as you let him.
Dating Donnie is honestly fairly easy and can be very rewarding for both of you. He's smart, he can help you with just about anything. As long as you give him the time of day, he will.
He honestly thought he would never experience a romantic relationship, so he often wonders if it's actually happening.
Yes, Donnie, it is.
He also will seek advice or for your thoughts on something he's doing- if he knows you'll tell him something in his best interest, he'll always come running to you for some wise words.
He usually becomes obsessed over inventions or projects until they're finished, so, like Leo, he gets tunnel vision. Try and get him to take breaks, don't completely forget to check up on him, please do! If you're his s/o, he'd really love it if you gave your opinion on things he's making. Raph is usually the first to compliment his inventions, so try and beat Raph to the metaphorical punch!
Dating 2003 Donatello is summed up in one word known for pacifism: peaceful.
Michaelangelo
Mikey with an equally as chaotic s/o will equal absolute mayhem.
When you start dating 2003 Mikey, he'll persuade you to get in on some pranks around the lair. Do participate, especially if it's Raph. He's always smacking Mikey anyway LMAO so it's understandable why you'd prank him too.
When he wins the Battle Nexus Champion, he won't shutup about it. Not that you mind it at all, but listen to him bask in his awesomeness! His brothers are tired of hearing about how much better he is than them because he's the B.N champion, anyway.
He's decent at making dinner food but really good at making breakfast food. Come down and cook with him, show him some things he may not know yet, or different ways to cook food. Get him on the poached egg wave instead of scrambled. It'll piss Raph off, but hey, a poached egg is hard as fuck to make for some. Mikey would love it if you show him some new techniques to enhance the enjoyment of his hobbies!
TMNT 2007
Leonardo
Okay, if you're dating Leo before going to Central America, he will be absolutely torn before he leaves. He isn't sure if he should suggest a break while he's gone so you won't be hung up waiting for him, so he'll be struggling with this internally.
But, please tell him that you'll wait for him. If he suggests a break for your benefit, shoot it down instantly. 2007 Leonardo will always put your feelings before his own, but please let him know that his feelings matter just as much as yours. He doesn't have to be selfless in your relationship 24/7. He's not leading anything or carrying a burden, he's just dating you.
I'm torn between whether or not Leo would ever be upset at you, he has a lot of patience. You'd probably have to be ignoring him or bottling up your feelings for him to be upset. Always be direct with him and say what's on your mind. Because he will definitely tell you.
"Now, you and me both know I'm not a mind reader, love."
Don't make Leo's life more stressful than it already is. He's constantly fighting for his and his family's safety, all while carrying the weight of being the leader on his shoulders. Just, be there for him. Be his therapist in a way, hear him out, and listen to the trials and tribulations of being the leader in blue. He'll love you way more if you do this.
Raphael
This Raph is actually the most laid-back, he will literally stay in his own lane.
But, when you pique his interest, he will try everything he can to make you happy once you get into a relationship.
He tries, he really, really, tries. He knows he can't take you anywhere fancy, so he has alternatives. Hope you don't mind a bike ride! He'll do that often. Or, he'll (beg) I mean...ask Donnie for the shellraiser so you guys can take a fun road trip.
He's also VERY overprotective in this version, if you start dating him while he's the Nightwatcher, expect him to always check up on you while he's on patrol alone.
He appreciates little things about you- so, refrain from trying to impress him. You dating him is impressive enough. If you have a job, he would love to hear about it, he likes the fact that you have something going for yourself.
He definitely loves a confident s/o, but if you're slightly insecure or still finding your self-confidence like Donnie, Raph will be there to remind you every time that everything about you is amazing.
When you're dating him during that whole Winter's era and Leonardo getting taken, he'll need you. Please, take him in with open arms. He'll probably break down in front of you, so please, do not think of him as weak, he'll never open up to you again if you think this. Let him know that you'll be there to listen.
"You're not weak at all, everyone has emotions. Thank you for trusting me enough to see you like this. I don't think of you any less."
He'll appreciate that.
P.S- I actually have a fanfic devoted to 2007!Raph, if you're interested, it's called Serendipity! I'd appreciate it if you would check it out.
Donatello
Okay, guys!
This Donnie is definitely the more chill ones- I swear!
So, if you’re dating Donnie during Leo’s absence, please check up on him. He’s taken the unofficial leader role while he’s gone, trying to keep his other two brothers in line as much as he can.
If you’re with him after the whole Winter’s thing, still check up on him! He’s not doing that terrible I.T job anymore, but still, he’d love it if you came in unannounced like you used to when he did have the job.
2007 Donnie will be in absolute love with you- that being said, do not shy away from showing him love! Shower him in kisses, hugs, anything! It’s a constant reminder that you’re actually his. That after all this crazy shit that went down, he has someone to look forward to seeing and holding.
He’s not as obsessed as he used to be with making inventions- he’s actually getting better at managing his diet and has even a little experience making food! So, he has more time to spare, and a lot of the times he’ll spend it with you.
He loves to read! I think you should buy him a few new books he’s been talking about wanting to read but being unable to find them online.
If he comes over to your place (which is very often) he may suggest a documentary about a serial killer or the life cycle of mammals. It honestly depends, but he has a wide spread interest in a number of things, so you’ll never be stuck with something. He especially likes analyzing interrogations with those channels on YouTube, so be ready to hear about it!
Donnie is very lovable, he’s also pretty easy to talk to. He understands that some people can’t comprehend what he says at times based on his vocabulary, (he doesn’t dumb it down for you per se) but he explains things more in depth so you don’t not understand what he’s saying.
2007 Donnie is truly someone you can spend all your free time with and never be bored!
Michaelangelo
Being a kid's party host is not the best thing in the world- and Mikey knows this firsthand. If he's dating you, patch him up after getting beat up by little kids! It's better than getting scolded by Donnie. Plus, Mikey thinks you're much more gentle than he is.
He's older in this installment, so he isn't as hyper. He still has energy, but not as high as the other versions of him. He'd much rather have a s/o that he can lay back and watch TV with.
I have a headcanon that 2007!Mikey has a spending problem, so expect him to spend his job money on you at times. He'll buy you cute things, once he gets your shirt size and pant size it's over.
I also think Mikey would love a girly girl and tomboy mix, he'll love that you can switch up your clothes and energy so easily!
He's very loving, so reciprocate that back. He would enjoy it if he could use your lap as a pillow so he could get ample rest.
TMNT 2012
Leonardo
2012 Leo might be my fave- he’s the cutest bro fr
That being said, please treat 2012 Leo with the upmost respect in the relationship. 2012 Leo would most likely date someone that has similar views and admirations as him. This comes into the relationship as well, he knows the power of holding a grudge and how it can truly break someone.
So, if you guys ever do get in a disagreement or argue, he’ll always make sure it ends with both of you coming to terms with each other. He always makes it to where you won’t go to sleep knowing the argument didnt end well. No matter what, Leo is always making sure you and him are good. Whatever issues you may have or things you want to discuss, let him know instantly. Point out something he may do that you don’t enjoy or like- do not hold a grudge against him. He will never do the same to you.
It takes him awhile to trust because of Karai- she truly put up a front in the beginning- so please always tell him the truth- it would hurt him if he found out what you may have said was a lie.
Cuddle with him- he wants something to hold. Sit on his lap while he’s watching Space Heroes, have him teach you how to use a weapon, anything that involves touching you or being near you, he’s down.
This Leo also really likes traditional Japanese meals- knowing he can’t cook, get him something that’s impossible to fucking break bro
A rice cooker!
Since lots of Japanese meals have white rice, get him that! I know FOR SURE Leo sucks at making rice if the man can’t toast some bread. Show him how to use it, you literally press one button, and it has a timer based on the weight of the rice you place in it. It’s really, REALLY hard to fuck up, so it’s a great fit for him! He would love it if you got him something that at the very least makes him think he’s cooking.
Raphael
2012 Raph has shown time and time again that he's the caring type. It's actually canon that he has ADHD, so good on the writers for shedding light on what ADHD can look like!
He's very unpredictable and emotionally erratic. That being said, he may not be the same person when you talk to him the next day. As in, his emotions change, all the time. They may even change about you, because, he's unsure if it's real or not.
Let him know always that you're his, in fact, all versions of Raphael need this constant reassurance.
Once Spike became Slash and part of the Mighty Mutanimals, he doesn't have anyone to confide in. Part of the reason he confided in Spike was that he would always listen, and wouldn't talk back.
So, be his Spike.
Let him talk your ear off on whatever he's feeling, whether it be about his brothers or you.
Yes, even you.
If something's really bothering him, do not let it escalate to an argument. Rather, let Raph get everything he has to say out in one big rant, and then you proceed. Vice versa as well, Raph respects your opinion because you respect his.
"Your feelings matter to me, Raph- I love you because you're vulnerable in front of me."
He'll love that. That you recognize his vulnerability and his absence of toxic masculinity beliefs that most men harbor.
Be kind to Chompy Picasso. Don't be a dick. Pet him, feed him while Raph's on patrol, and babysit him! He'd love that you watch over the things he really cares about.
When you both are dating, let him teach you a thing or two. He'd especially love it if you were able to learn how to use his sai.
He's sarcastic, DO NOT take anything he says to heart. He's a jokester, seriously. He has the best one-liners for any situation fr fr
A lot of the time, he uses his sarcasm or one-liners to lighten up a situation!
Donatello
2012 Donnie is super sensitive. He's kind-hearted. So, once he (finally) gets over April, he'll (finally) see your feelings for him.
When you do both start dating, he's torn on whether you'll ditch him for another guy. He was so invested in April, that he's scared to actually love someone.
So please, kiss him whenever he thinks this. You can tell on his face when he thinks like this. Donatello wears his heart on his sleeve, people can tell when he truly cares for them and loves them.
It's not hard to read Donnie.
Unlike with April, he isn't some nervous shy schoolgirl, it may be because he's 100% sure you like him because you're dating, but he isn't chasing you like a cat to a mouse. He's got you. You're his.
Donnie doesn't expect compliments, but he'll always try and compliment you. He starts off oddly because he isn't sure what to compliment you about without sounding weird.
"I...I really like the way your smile...accentuates your facial features."
It may sound stupid on his end, but it comes from a good place!
"Wow...thank you, Donnie! That's so sweet of you to say!"
Respond like this; like I said, Donnie is sensitive! If he genuinely means something, take it in! He's trying, and that's what matters. He's already out of his comfort zone by straight up telling you what he likes about you.
Compliment him! Out of the blue, when he least expects it. If he's just working on the shell raiser and he's covered in oil, take this opportunity.
"You know what I love about you? Your work ethic, combined with your good looks, and you're perfect, Don."
He'll be over the moon, guaranteed. He'll stumble over his words after this trying to come up with the words "thank you," it'll be comical to watch!
Michaelangelo
2012 Mikey is very sweet- he wants to be loved.
He's used to people not liking him based on his appearance, so when he finds out you like him and you eventually start dating, he's honestly shocked.
He confides in Raph a lot of the time about you.
"What should I get Y/n dude?!?! I need help!!"
You'll be closest to Raphael if you're dating Mikey, he wants to make sure you're taking care of his little brother, and he even helps you how to handle the orange-clad jokester.
Raph may bonk Mikey on the head every time he opens his mouth, but he truly cares about him yall.
His love other than you is Ice Cream Kitty- always be nice to Ice Cream Kitty. Like Raph, Mikey really loves animals. Don't be a dick to Ice Cream Kitty.
Spending time with IC Kitty will cause Mikey to love you even more, as you're showing him that you're taking part in one of his interests and caring for his little kitty!
BAYVERSE TMNT
Leonardo
He's undeniably all for you. Like Raph, he is all about you!
That being said, please appreciate all of what Leonardo has to offer. He doesn't wear his heart on his sleeve like 2012 Donnie, but he lets you know how much he cares for you.
He's very family-oriented, so he would really enjoy all the time you spent in the lair with him and his family. Of course, he likes time alone with you, but to see you interact positively with his family- it's everything to him.
All Leos stop at nothing to become perfect- he's constantly trying to be Mr. Perfect. He may beat himself down over little things, but please, always let him know early on in the relationship that it's okay to be imperfect.
"Ah...I forgot that you're allergic...I'm sorry, Y/n."
"Leo, it's okay! I love that you tried, really; we can't remember everything."
Watch how you talk to him and your mannerisms. Leonardo deals with Raphael on a day-to-day basis- he can read body language like a pro. He can sense when your tone is off from its normal state, and he will ask you about it. Don't beat around the bush, always tell him what's on your mind- unlike other versions of Leo, Bayverse Leo may pry a little or ask you about it head-on.
He's also very cautious, so, he may be uneasy about doing impulsive things together. He likes to plan stuff out, so, do the planning for him sometimes! Plan a date in your apartment, have dinner on the rooftop, and watch a shitty rom-com that both of you would fall asleep cuddling each other to!
Raphael
Bayverse Raph is one big teddy bear, we all know this! But, he's afraid.
He's afraid of being alone. As much as he may take time to himself, train by himself, knit by himself, the thought of not having anybody worries him.
When the chance to be human arises, he takes it. He lies to April and Casey to get the ooze because, he wants to be seen in public with you. That's the main reason why. He wants everyone to know he's yours and you're his.
When you find out about his attempt to be human after all of this, please reassure him.
"I'm with you for you, Red. Mutant and all. Now come here,"
He's constantly wondering if he's good enough for you. Would you get bored? He needs to be reassured often. Don't take it as he doesn't trust you, it's just that, he's a mutant.
Be interested in one of his hobbies! If you find yourself in a Michaels or other crafting store, get a starter knitting kit for yourself as well as some other balls of yarn for Raph, he'd love you for that.
He appears tough around you, but you can read him. He would probably date someone who can tell when he's not doing well on the inside.
Let him know that he doesn't have to be tough in front of you 24/7, and that it's okay to show you how he truly feels.
He becomes soft when it comes to physical touch- it's his love language. He'll kiss you on your head or forehead, ruffle your hair, anything. He also really loves your hands, so more often than not he'll want to hold it.
You better let that man hold your fuckin hand or else-
sorry! anyway, dating bayverse Raph is enticing! Expect handmade gifts and lots of touching. He also gives the best hugs!
Donatello
Okay, this Donnie is seriously nerdy!
Less sensitive than 2012 Donnie, but still pretty techy and has a wide vocabulary.
He would love a s/o who is cool, calm, and collected. This Donnie isn't as chaotic as his counterparts, but he may have his moments while working in his lab.
He barely gets sleep. That being said, please try and get this turtle to bed. Try and bribe him, he honestly can't say no to you once you both start dating.
"Don, if you drop that invention you've been working on for the past 24 hours, I'll give you the best cuddles and massage known to man."
He's torn between the two choices, but he ultimately picks you! He cannot say no with the aching of his muscles bothering him. He would also love to have you in his arms!
This being said, he loves you being around! He might not say much all the time, since he talks way less than the other incarnations of him, but he enjoys your company, really. Just sitting there with him and watching him work, he loves it.
Going back to his nerdiness, don't be shy and send him things that might pique his interest. He loves that you know just exactly what he likes, any new podcasts about the latest scientific theories or conspiracy theories! Let him have it all! He'll get that notification from you and immediately change his music to the podcast or video while he works.
"Love, thank you so much. I'd love it if you came over and listened to it with me, *eyebrows eyebrows*"
He also texts like this LMAO
But yes, dating Bayverse Donnie is very calm- he's laid-back like 2007 Raph, but has his panicking moments like on patrol or a mission.
If you also wear glasses, he'll be so happy. He's dating someone who has the same issue he has, this lack of eyesight.
"Hey, four-eyes,"
"Says you, lovey!"
It's cute. You guys poke small fun at each other, with irony looming over each minor joke. It'll either end up in a playfight or a laughing fit between the two of you.
Michaelangelo
Aight yall- this Mikey is an attention whore, he wants all of your attention! Give it to him! It could be little things, he may find a funny meme or something on his shell-cell, or he wants to show you a new move on his board. Either way, give him your undivided attention.
it's obvious that Mikey is hurt by how humans view him and his brothers, so when you present to him that you view him in a romantic way and you both start dating, he's happy.
Happy because someone in this world likes him for who he is, he doesn't need no purple ooze to turn him human. Genuine people exist, and you're dating him to remind him about this constantly.
He tries to find what your sense of humor is and will adapt his jokes so they suit your taste. It's a weird headcanon I have LMAO but Mikey definitely has set jokes based on someone's sense of humor, especially his s/o's!
RISE!TMNT
Leonardo
This Leo would rather sit and lounge with you than anything else. Honestly, just having you in his presence is enough for him. He actually...is pretty lazy!
Counteracting his Bayverse persona, this Rise!Leo is spontaneous as fuck. So, it really depends on the day for him whether he's thinking about spending the day doing nothing & being lazy with you or doing everything he could possibly think of with you.
He's usually upbeat and would like it if you matched his energy. He knows- some days are bad days, so he'll try his best and lift your spirits.
He's also...pretty competitive? Doesn't care who you is, he's beating you in whatever game ya'll are playing. You're no longer his s/o, you're his opponent. Don't play Uno with him.
Play leisure games, like mancala or go-fish together, he's less competitive in these since the stakes are way lower. Will bet on the cuddle position you guys do over a game
"If I win, I get to be the little spoon this time,"
He's also confident- so, he doesn't really think about you leaving him for someone else. He thinks it would be your loss if you ever did.
Really, REALLY enjoys making out with you. He'd pretty much clear a slot in his day just to have a makeout session. That being said, he's a jokester, so expect some jokes during the session.
"Oh, my goodness, how lovely your lips feel on mine,"
Will joke as his lips are on yours, doesn't even let up for air or to speak, just speaks in your lips.
Kiss him on the cheek sometimes, will you? It gets him all giddy!
Raphael
Raphael is sweet as pie- don't do anything to hurt him.
He's not one to hurt your feelings, so don't hurt his!
He's also very, very massive! That being said, he really would enjoy giving you a piggyback ride every now and again.
Because he's so big, he's very gentle with you, he thinks one of these days he's gonna hurt you, so he'll need some reassurance.
"I trust you enough that you know your strength, Big Red."
He comes to like nicknames as well. He'll probably call you "Cutie Pie" almost always!
Surprise him with something he can take care of. It's obvious Raph is an animal lover, get him something he can care for! Like a gerbil or hamster, they'll easily fall in love with him, too.
Raph is big on affection, he'll dedicate time just for loving you. He's a great lover, he makes sure you're straight always and you're both on the right page. He never will raise his voice at you, like 2003 Donnie, it's just not in his nature to yell at his s/o. That being said, do the same, and do not yell at him. It'll hurt him more than it hurts you.
Donatello
Rise!Donnie is...interesting. He doesn't really enjoy physical touch. So, limit the hugs. He's also known not to cry, either.
Dating him might seem difficult, but once you get used to his chaotic ass, it's simple.
Unless he initiates a physical touch first, try and limit that. He constantly has to be doing something, as he's restless. So, if you try and hold his hand, interlock your fingers with his and swing your arm back and forth, so he's not so constrained. It'll be moving, and that's what he likes.
Speaking of his likes!
He enjoys lyrics, a lot.
So, if you tell him something, like a special day or occasion, he'll remember it in song.
" ♪The day of your birth is the absolutely positively day of the fourth~♪"
or, something like this, if he's taking you home but you think he'll forget the directions. He'll sing the song.
 " ♪Take 5th street then up 10 blocks, down the ave and pass the cops♪"
Yeah, like that.
If he does kiss you, (unless he's really into it at the moment) it's always a quick kiss. He's getting used to showing his love with physical touches since it's something he's not really into. But, seeing how much you appreciate him and his little quirks like that, he's willing to try.
Rely on Donnie! Yes, it may go terribly wrong, but who cares! If you need something fixed, call him! It may come out the complete opposite way you expected it to, but it allows him to do something for you that you'll appreciate. He wants you to see his efforts! He's trying, seriously.
Also, praise him! It's not a kink or anything, but Donnie really loves being praised for something. It may be an ego thing, but he would especially love it if his s/o praised him!
"You made that? You're so smart, Donnie!"
He'll love to hear that from you.
Michaelangelo
Okay, with this Mikey, it's always something!
He's very playful, so be ready to playfight, always! He'll try and John Cena you or something. He enjoys all kinds of hobbies, so he would love that you join him in the fun.
He's very intuitive, and he's all about being vulnerable with each other. He lays his heart out, and is an open book emotionally. He doesn''t leave things left unsaid, he WILL say what has to be said.
If you're more to harboring emotions and not showing them, he'll encourage you to tell him how you're feeling. He'll want to be the one you go to when you want to talk.
He wants you to be the best you can be! So, he's encouraging. He doesn't want you to give up, at all.
He wants you to be the best version of yourself with him, as his s/o, you shouldn't hold back.
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Dirty Alphabet: Simeon
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A = Aftercare (What they’re like after sex)
He is the king of aftercare. He’s very gentle with you. He’s cute as well, with lots of blushing and gentle pecks, making sure you’re alright and aren’t hurt anywhere. Any accidental bruises caused by his natural strength he will immediately heal. He’ll run you a nice warm shower as he cleans up the bedroom and then he’ll clean himself up or join you in the shower and help you scrub clean.
B = Body part (Their favorite body part of theirs and also their partner’s)
Simeon isn’t a self-conscious person but he doesn’t focus much on his physique either. If he had to choose something he likes about himself he’d say his muscular abs or whatever part of himself you praise the most.
When it comes to you he really loves to play with your chest (no matter the size) he loves playing with your nipples and gently kissing and massaging your chest. It’s not that he’s most sexually attracted to it, he just simply loves it.
C = Cum (Anything to do with cum, basically)
Simeon genuinely and strictly believes that sex is for reproduction and to avoid getting into trouble for having sex he will always release inside you and as much as he can. He feels lewd for you to take his cum into your mouth but he won’t stop you if that’s what you want.
When it comes to your cum he likes to take it in his mouth as he kisses and licks you gently.
D = Dirty secret (Pretty self-explanatory, a dirty secret of theirs)
Despite being an angel he has a small corruption kink. It’s a part of himself he tries to hide for the sake of keeping his job but when you’re squirming beneath him he gets a sly grin and wants to hear you beg him for more. He may let this slip out on occasion but usually, he keeps this side to himself.
E = Experience (How experienced are they? do they know what they’re doing?)
None previously. As an angel, it’s forbidden. The fact you are partially angel and not completely human is the reason he’s been granted permission to live with you and fulfill your human “needs”
Of course, he was worried at first but it was as if he’d done it a million times before. As a mostly all-knowing angel, he knows exactly how humans do things, what makes them happiest, their complete anatomy and physiology, etc. so it definitely does not appear like he has no experience.
F = Favorite position (This goes without saying)
Missionary. Considering that biblically this is the only one allowed, it’s his favorite. He does experiment with other positions but he loves the traditional aspect of the missionary position. Of course, he’s also willing to have this flipped on him and be the one beneath you, he becomes a blushing mess when you take control like this.
G = Goofy (Are they more serious in the moment? are they humorous? etc.)
Simeon is somewhat serious in the moment, he wants to make sure he’s doing things satisfactorily and is big on communicating your desires and his desires as well as what he’s about to do and wants to do. Once you have more of a rhythm he’ll make small light-hearted comments and jokes as you enjoy yourselves.
H = Hair (How well groomed are they? does the carpet match the drapes? etc.)
Angelically well-groomed if that makes sense. Not a hair out of place, not too long, not especially curly, etc.
If you have any preferences in this matter then be sure to let him know because he won’t mind switching things up to fit your tastes.
I = Intimacy (How are they during the moment? the romantic aspect)
He’s very romantic. He’s praising you, guiding you along, leaving kisses on every inch of your body that he adores with all his being. Sex with Simeon leaves no room for any insecurity, embarrassment, or shame of any sort. No matter how sexually intense it may get there is not a moment you will forget he is doing this to express his love.
J = Jack off (Masturbation headcanon)
He doesn’t. He considers it shameful and a pointless temptation. Before you, he never had moments where he felt the need to pleasure himself and now should he get that feeling he turns to you or waits patiently until he can get to you.
K = Kink (One or more of their kinks)
As much as he tries to hide it he is a bit of a sadist. In no way would he hurt you but he derives pleasure from you begging for him, calling him your master, he wants you to always need him. When he gets jealous it will show in the bed, he will be a tiny bit rougher than usual, and you might hear a growl or snarl as he behaves more instinctually than consciously.
L = Location (Favorite places to do the do)
Simeon prefers the bed in the privacy of your room. He finds couches and desks and almost anywhere else to be very uncomfortable. He’d rather completely spread you out and hear the bed creaking as he grinds into you. He’d much prefer to see you entangled in the sheets, trying to hide your face in a pillow, scrambling for something to hold onto as he has his way.
M = Motivation (What turns them on, gets them going)
You do, more than anything else. When you’re being extra sweet and attentive he feels a stronger urge to get as physically close as you can.
When you’re being a badass, showing off a new powerful spell, or keeping the brothers in line he gets a little horny. He likes seeing you act powerfully knowing how easily you’ll give him control in the bed.
Every once in a while seeing that power makes him want you to use it on him and act dominantly.
N = No (Something they wouldn’t do, turn-offs)
Anything that’ll hurt you or expose you he will absolutely not do. He also won’t play out fantasies involving unforgivable sins like r***. It goes without saying anything involving his father or mocking him in any way is also off the table.
O = Oral (Preference in giving or receiving, skill, etc.)
He much prefers to give. He doesn’t see much of a point in receiving it as he feels it would be a waste of his seed. He does however love your warmth spilling into his mouth as he massages you with his fingers and tongue.
P = Pace (Are they fast and rough? slow and sensual? etc.)
Simeon is slow and sensual for the most part. He likes to take his time to warm you up and whisper in your ear. When it comes to actually thrusting he isn’t too fast but he doesn’t draw it out unless he’s in the mood to tease you. The only time he’d be described as fast is when he is jealous and has a harder time reigning himself in as he claims you.
Q = Quickie (Their opinions on quickies, how often, etc.)
He’s not a fan of quickies as he finds it difficult to find a comfortable way to do so. If you opt for the bed then he’s likely to draw it out and take his time as you’re far too tempting to be over and done with in a few minutes or less.
R = Risk (Are they game to experiment? do they take risks? etc.)
He’s okay with some risks as long as his job isn’t at risk. He’s willing to experiment with positions and maybe change locations if he finds a suitable spot where you’re sure to be comfortable. As far as risks go he won’t even leave a window cracked or the door unlocked, not out of fear of himself being caught but because he absolutely won’t risk anyone else getting to see you the way that he gets to.
S = Stamina (How many rounds can they go for? how long do they last?)
He is among the warriors of the celestial realm, the archangels. However, there hasn’t been much war lately so he isn’t building up stamina like he used to and mostly works in his chair writing. Regardless, his angelic healing (stamina included), and superior physique to humans means that compared to you his stamina can be overwhelming especially if he gets really into it.
T = Toys (Do they own toys? Do they use them? On a partner or themselves?)
They don’t exist in the celestial realm, he certainly wasn’t buying one in the Devildom, and he’d immediately be spotted in the human world by a brother if he tried to purchase one, not that he even wanted to.
If you have any he may use one on you just to see how it works and if it helps build you up faster for him. But for the most part, he rejects the idea of toys and prefers to do things the natural way.
U = Unfair (How much they like to tease)
He does enjoy the slight teasing. While he’s most concerned with your satisfaction, he also enjoys seeing you squirming and blushing and enjoys overstimulating you or making you wait for his hands and especially his dick. He doesn’t do this often but he does have a playful side to him that brings his teasing out on occasion.
V = Volume (How loud they are, what sounds they make, etc.)
Simeon finds it embarrassing but he’s rather loud only because he’s not used to making such sounds and how to hold them back. He also notices how much you seem to enjoy it so he doesn’t try to hide his moans completely but they are still always louder than he thinks they will be.
Aside from moans, he may emit a soft whimper or low growl every once in a while depending on exactly what it is you’re doing.
W = Wild card (A random headcanon for the character)
His wings pop out when he gets really turned on, much to his embarrassment, not to mention the irony of a horny angel.
X = X-ray (Let’s see what’s going on under those clothes)
Simeon was once the highest-ranking angel he was extremely powerful and as an archangel, a race of warrior angels, he is still in good shape physically. He has a muscular chest that remains rather smooth and somewhat muscular arms. His ass isn’t firm but not overly plump and his dick is perfect. As a near-perfect being, he was made to appear his best for humans, even in reproductive terms so his dick is considered very large in the human world. As a being who can also shapeshift into a human from his natural angel form if he is too big for you, he can use magic to adjust himself accordingly.
Y = Yearning (How high is their sex drive?)
Ever since he was allowed to be with you, it’s been fairly regular. He doesn’t see sex as something he absolutely needs but more as a way to spend time with you and make you happy (it pleases him as well) if he ever feels an urge and it’s a good time he will approach you but if it’s in the middle of school or an inconvenient time he can suppress his desires and meditate to lower his sex drive until he can have you in his arms.
Z = Zzz (How quickly they fall asleep afterward)
Fairly quickly. While he may appear forever youthful he is on the older side and as an author is mostly sedentary in his work life. He uses most of all of his stamina for you so when he knows he can relax he will immediately fall asleep, even more quickly if he has you to cuddle close to him.
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summershouto · 1 year
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baby 5 & sanji- the role of gender
I’m definitely not the first person to say this but Sanji’s women obsession is very similar to Baby 5’s need to please and I wanted to expand on it more bc the thoughts keep bouncing around in my brain 
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Sanji and Baby 5 have the same core need to find love and it effects their actions- especially in matters with romance/the opposite sex. While both of their fixations are often treated as jokes, they still reflect underlaying issues tied to their backstories.
The way they act on this romantic drive is somewhat different, as they both assume the traditionally expected roles in accordance with their gender. They’re putting on a performance, behaving over-the-top in effort to please, while still varying in how they portray their love-sickness to remain a model man/woman. these differences set them apart, and I feel in Sanji’s case it can result in his behavior being brushed off as simply a weird quirk (unlike Baby 5, who’s actions remain lighthearted but are recognized as a trauma response).
They both have the same reaction to potential interest/attention, but remain strictly on the opposite ends of the spectrum of Man vs Woman in a conventional relationship. 
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Baby 5 maintains a caretaking, flattering-focused obsession of the opposite sex rather than transforming into having pervy gags. She wants to be needed but she also enjoys (and sometimes imagines) being swooned over.
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Looking at Sanji in the beginning, before the annoying nosebleed/creep gags became more prominent, he was also rather romance driven rather than motivated by lust. He, similar to Baby 5, saw many as potential suitors; a hopeless romantic at heart. While Baby 5 strikes at the first sign of interest from a man, Sanji equally treats every woman as someone he needs to look after . 
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Baby 5 jumps into the role of a caring wife. She blushes like a schoolgirl and assumes that every man who is kind is showing interest in her. Meanwhile Sanji, filling the role of a traditional man in the relationship, seeks to provide. He wants to aid women in any way possible- whether thats with cooking or actual physical protection. His pervy gags could also be read as a way to fit this norm- as a man it’s more societally acceptable to be lust driven- (and in some cases, lust/sex is a way to “prove” ones manhood).  This is especially prominent after his time apart from the crew surrounded by people that challenged his notions of gender.
Overall their use of these traditional gender roles are safe; an easy way to get attention. People in real life often use romantic attention as means of fulfillment, and I read their actions as the same.
Baby 5 and Sanji are both people pleasers. Baby 5 is named as such, noting she can’t deny anyone anything because she longs to be needed. Sanji’s lack of self-worth causes him to always put others first, even at the cost of his own wellbeing. They see themselves as existing to fulfill a needed role, bidding their time until the moment arises. 
Other people have noted how similar Baby 5 and Sanji are in this way, joking that it’s good Sanji and Baby 5 never met because they’d get married instantly. I think it would actually be very interesting if they had met. Two people pleasers in a relationship is a recipe for disaster, especially with people as passionate as Baby 5 and Sanji. Their way of dealing with conflict would be to.. not. Neither would ever want to say the other is at fault. Their approach towards romance is seeking a sense of fulfillment, which would create an interesting dynamic with their exaggerated swooning. 
Now there are some people who truly are greatly motivated to pursue relationships, but with Sanji and Baby 5’s backstories revolving around a lack of love,  it’s safe to assume that it’s a bit more of an inorganic reaction for them. Especially when looking at the situations their love gets them into, such as when Baby 5 fell head over heels for a man because he was kind to her once despite not showing any prior attraction. 
Sanji is on the opposite side of the spectrum, finding /every/ woman beautiful and himself unworthy. Where Baby 5 aims to prove her worth from any one person and seeks a reason for her receiving kindness, Sanji places himself below all the women he meets and grovels in attempt to please as they stand on their pedestals. 
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Sanji was raised by Zeff- someone who had a strong influence in how Sanji perceives and treats women. Sanji’s hunger for love was enhanced by the teaching of strict gender roles and emphasis on chivalry. While Baby 5 longs to be the helpful wife, Sanji becomes the pursuer- acting like a white knight as he sought women’s attention. That’s not to say his attraction isn’t real, but his extreme reactions to women reflect his desperation to please. 
Sanji also has the added factor of the men vs women in his life prior to Zeff, with only his mother and sister showing him kindness. Women were safer; and Zeff furthered this belief through his teachings.  
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They’re both self-sacrificial to a dangerous degree. To them, their lives are indispensable; meaning if someone needs to die for the greater good then that’s the role they feel they were made for. Their life IS other people.
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This is also interesting to consider in the perspective of non-heterosexual relationships. Sanji has a complicated past with gender/sexuality, so his aggressive actions towards men reflect what he feels a “real man” should be. Feminine attention is good, acceptable to enjoy, but male attention is something to scorn.
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For Baby 5, we don’t really see her react to the kindness of a woman. She grew up around predominantly men and men appear to be the ones who most often take advantage of her. It’s curious to consider if meeting another woman with good intentions would allow her to be more sincere. 
I guess in conclusion I often see Baby 5’s actions being recognized as a response to her past, but I don’t often see Sanji’s explained similarly. Personally I think Sanji’s behavior is greatly effected by his starve for love, and he throws himself into it just like Baby 5. However, the way theyre perceived is greatly effected by their gender and their according behavior to fit the norms. Regardlessly, he and Baby 5 both rely on other people to find their worth- and the quickest way to do that is to turn to romantic love. 
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gaiuskamilah · 1 month
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been thinking about the dinvali-kilvali split in blades. on the surface i think it seems to us a more "progressive" way to view relationships as it's reminiscent of the split-attraction model and is very aspec friendly as the only thing actually needed for marriage is emotional loyalty, not necessarily romantic or sexual at all. QPRs can be married without the usual romantic and sexual associations attached to it as is for many in real life.
however, in a diegetic sense, this structure of relationships is to the detriment of elves in blades the same way romantic and sexual monogamy (and even polygamy in some cultures) can be for many in real life. these relationships do not work in a vacuum and this structure of relationships was directly influenced by religion - the old gods made it so in order to exercise (unjust) power over the lives and bodies of elves, and that included their interpersonal relationships. to elves, to be monogamous is controversial. that tyril creates a whole new word to describe his (in-universe) monogamy is radical because it goes against the hegemonic control of dinvali-kilvali philosophy.
this also extends to tyril's kilma, who never took a dinvalir. tyril wonders how much she must have suffered for doing so, i.e. not conforming to elven customs.
i choose to view this as a critique on how pervasive power systems and philosophies extend their power down to the smallest units in society, starting with the interpersonal foundations of the "family" - the smallest unit of such. it does not matter if one is strictly monogamous or more in favor of "open" relationships as is with the elves, the fact is that these relationships are strictly mandated by institutions of society - in this case religious ones - and that to not follow is to risk social rejection and lack of support. changing the model of relationships on the surface does not erase that the foundations of setting that "standard" were done with imperial and controlling intent.
same can be said the with "matriarchy" of orcs. to many of us living in patriarchal societies, the idea of women having power is an appealing one. however, that does not erase that despite the orcs in blades being a matriarchy, elements of imperial monarchic control remain. inverting traditional gendered power dynamics does not remove the fact that the hegemonic, unequal rule of a gender binary remains. the overturning of one system without destroying the root of said system only allows for the continuation of inequality in society but with a different face.
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visgrapplinghooks · 8 months
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friendlinghood: a proposal
skip to "terminology" if you don't want the long explanation
QPRs are really difficult to talk about because of the way the modern queer community has kinda framed it as like "dating but without romantic attraction"
when that's not entirely true
I mean, you COULD say that's a kind of QPR but it'd be a mistake to frame all of it that way. this is in large part to internet misinformation and shit as well as amatonormativity from which a lot of relationship discourse is framed against
queerplatonicism, from my pov refers to what is essentially the natural byproduct of queer and neurodivergent people having close friends
the queer community has been aware for a while that its members would have close friendships that in some way violated traditional social norms for behavior outside romantic relationships or family, etc.
when you sit outside the neurotypical and patriarchal norm, the conventional social understanding of what relationships are kinda breaks down for you
you display levels of closeness and intimacy and affection that are "inappropriate" for neurotypical and patriarchal society. in most cases they're not formal relationships, but natural evolutions of friendships between queer and neurodivergent folks
cishet people actually do have variants on this like the concept of "blood brothers" where two men who love each other basically make a pact to always have each other's backs and be their support and they do the whole movie thing where they mix blood to bind them together (it's a very cinematic thing, but the point is it exists in the popular consciousness)
"romance" and "friendship" each refer to a set of social norms and expectations. there's like a whole narrative constructed around those concepts and people internalize and have their own versions of them
a lot of people probably have friends they want to fuck or kiss or cuddle or declare their undying affection for but it'd just be "weird" within the social boundaries of acceptability and so people pigeonhole their relationships into either friend or romantic partner.
queerplatonicism (from my pov) is essentially accepting or practicing relationships which are neither platonic or romantic or even strictly familial. many queer people have them with other queer people they're close to. if you know queer folks then you probably know what I'm talking about - the friends they have that they're not dating but seem intensely attached and close to. they usually have weird names for each other that go beyond friendship like they'll jokingly call each other wives and husbands and siblings and partners... but it doesn't feel quite entirely joking. they'll express a lot of physical affection in the casual way you might typically ascribe to romantic partners. they'll prioritize time with those people as much as any romantic partner they may have etc.
straight and cis people and neurotypical people obviously experience them to some extent, it's just that patriarchy was built around cishet neurotypicals in particular, so it tends to cling to their mindsets more strongly, and once you're already outside of the "bounds of normalcy" by being queer, ND, etc. then it's a lot easier to feel like it's okay for you to be in relationships that aren't "normal".
because like the idea of loving someone with your entire fucking being... it's so tied up in these cultural ideas on how to behave about those feelings and it never made sense to me, because if you just let yourself feel those emotions you start to realize there are people in your life that maybe you love so much more than friends. but "more than friends" is so washed up in romance that you force those feelings down and think "this is fine, I'm happy with being just friends, what else can we be?"
maybe I don't want to have sex or hold hands on a ferris wheel or get. married or kiss or any of that. maybe I just want to exist in the same room as that person know that that person is in my life and know that person cares about me just as much as I do them.
terminology
I've started to use the term "friendling" in my day to day life, now. the term is a portmanteau of "friend" and "sibling" and "loveling" (the english cognate of the German word "lieblings" which can mean "favorite", but is also a term of endearment).
to me, it's probably the most accurate way to describe the Everything All At Once feelings that are simultaneously your weird friends that are your found family and also "romantic" but twisted beyond recognition where the term stops meaning anything.
I'm just throwing this word and explanation out there for anyone who feels like me and wants to use it too. not exclusive to queer people or neurodivergence or anything, I just think it's often easier to be cognisant of those feelings when you are queer and neurodivergent.
that being said, I do NOT want this to be folded into another "attraction label". this is, as far as I can tell, not a unique form of attraction but quite literally the opposite. it's an abstraction of the core impulses of attraction that ALL humans experience without the labels or social structures built around it. I do not want the language that I've spent so long trying to find for my experiences losing all of its value and being reapporpriated into the amatonormative, allonormative, and cisheteropatriarchal framework.
"friendlinghood" - is what I see as an attribute of relationships and the extent to which they deviate from socially conventional definitions of a relationship.
"friendlingship" - used grammatically like friendship. referring to any complex relationship acategorically.
"friendling" - used grammatically similar to friend. referring to those involved in any complex relationship acategorically.
all of this shit is nebulous and doesn't really mean anything beyond what meaning you choose to give it. I think any relationship can have some amount of friendlinghood and I don't think there's a clear line between friendlingship and friendship or romance or family, because it's not a type of relationship in the first place. it's just silly words I made that helped me.
language and labels
so the biggest problem with terminology like this is you can end up creating labels. my point was to create personal terms for myself and my relationships because that's what helped me personally process my own feelings.
that's not to say everyone needs or benefits from them. you can just vibe and do whatever you want and many people are happy with that.
I don't think words like this being codified and standardized really helps anyone. it's unavoidable that we as humans like articulating feelings, but the entire point of my interactions with friendlinghood is about certain things defying labels and language. language in this sense is just a tool, it's a hammer for a nail. it's not embodying the concept itself, it's just useful shorthand.
I will still freely refer to friendlings as close friends, best friends, found family, and other words. as long as I know the intention behind it is all that matters. I just needed that initial bit of language to articulate the feelings before the other words felt right to me.
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Hey Slug! I've been baffled over this for a while now and realized I could just ask you for your opinion. Names. Specifically, Hypmic characters mostly using first names to address each other. I- I'm obviously not all that familiar with Japanese traditions, I'm just the usual anime nerd, but I thought I had a grasp on how people use names over there by now and Hypmic is kinda confusing me? Why do they all use first names to address each other? But sometimes people still use last names??
Short answer: Because, for the most part, the people talking to each other are close friends in casual settings.
Long answer: Using first names vs last names has to do with the level of emotional distance between speaker and listener. Regardless of language, we all adjust the level of formality we speak at depending on whether we're talking to close friends, acquaintances, strangers, or authority figures. It's not socially appropriate to present yourself as best buds with your boss or teacher. Similarly, you might jokingly call a close pal a bitch, but this level of closeness would be inappropriate for a coworker. In Japanese, emotional distance is more strictly codified than in English via varying degrees of polite language, name honorifics, and first name vs last name, but the basic idea involved isn't especially different from English. Most of the people we talk to on a day-to-day basis are classmates and coworkers. If you speak Japanese in your work or school setting, you'll likely use last names for the classmates and coworkers you don't know especially well ("Yamamoto-kun's the guy I sit next to in math, but we don't hang out after school or anything." "Satou-san and I both have the opening shift on Tuesdays, and I chat with her whenever we're on break at the same time. But we don't text outside of work or anything." These kinds of people.) because you have a sense of emotional distance from them. For those you feel closer to and would consider a friend, one way of indicating that closeness is by using their first names. For really close friends or romantic partners, you can drop honorifics altogether to indicate that you feel super, super close to them. (As a side note, some people aren't comfortable doing this at all and still refer to best friends and romantic partners with honorifics. That's largely a matter of personality.) We see Hypmic characters doing this for their classmates and coworkers in rare instances of classroom or workplace scenes, but the majority of Hypmic takes place outside of these settings. Since each team is comprised of close pals hanging out, there's no need to put up a barrier of emotional distance. Some notable exceptions:
The characters who were once close pals but have since had falling outs still largely use first names for one another sans honorifics. This is meant as a deliberate insult, since they're no longer close enough for this lack of distance to be acceptable. Sound confusing? Let's go back to the bitch example for a minute. Calling your best friend a bitch? Probably fine. Calling someone you had a fight with a bitch? Yeaaaah, no, that doesn't fly. Same deal here.
Even when they're friends in TDD, Ichirou still calls Samatoki "Samatoki-san" because he treats Samatoki like an older, respected figure. He doesn't want to try and portray himself as on Samatoki's level. The "-san" is dropped after their fallout because he no longer looks up to Samatoki.
Jirou and Saburou call Ichirou various affectionate derivatives of "oniisan" or "aniki" instead of his first name. "Aniki" is a matter of respect, but "Ichi-nii" and "niichan" are more about social custom than respect for Ichirou based on his individual merits. Even if you're an English speaker who feels very close to your parents, you probably aren't on a first-name basis with them due to social customs. It's the same idea here. Japanese-speaking siblings can be super close to one another and still use variants of oniisan/oneesan even while otherwise speaking to their sibling like a close friend. Many other languages share similar customs.
Ditto for Nemu calling Samatoki "oniichan."
Ramuda calls almost everyone by their first name (usually without honorifics or with overly familiar honorifics) in a way that is socially inappropriate. He's stating that he feels very, very close to the listener, regardless of whatever the listener thinks. This is in line with Ramuda's extremely outgoing persona and the "everyone's idol" trope. He gives his love to EVERYONE! He's best buds with EVERYONE! But plenty of people (rightfully) find it off-putting or boundary smashing. It's another example of the way Ramuda breaks social conventions, especially in a cute or childish way. Like "Oops, tee-hee! I'm just too young and adorable to know better! I just wanna be your friend :3"
Even when they were close friends, Jakurai never called Ramuda by his first name. He instead uses "Amemura-kun" (as an aside, Jakurai attaches "-kun" to most of the cast members' names because they're a fair deal younger than him. It's not demeaning. It actually conveys some degree of warmth) which leaves some measure of distance between them at all times. It's not explicitly stated exactly why he does this. It's reasonable to assume TDD!Jakurai has some reservations about getting close to Ramuda, although it's debatable whether this is due to suspicion about Ramuda's behavior, trauma from his fight with Hitoya, or simply an attempt to establish socially acceptable distance because Ramuda utterly fails to do so. (Also, I think Jakurai might combust into a ball of embarrassed flames if he tries, but that's neither here nor there.)
Very, very significantly, Doppo and Hifumi never refer to Jakurai by name, instead using some variant of "sensei." They mean this in a good way--they respect him a lot--but as Jakurai occasionally comments on, this creates a sense of distance between them that he doesn't like. He wants to be treated like an equal instead of being placed on a slight pedestal above his other two friends.
Since I'm talking about honorifics here too, Juushi calls Hitoya and Kuukou "Hitoya-san" and "Kuukou-san" even when they don't return the favor. Like I mentioned previously, this strikes me as a matter of personality. It's not that Hitoya and Kuukou disrespect Juushi or that Juushi doesn't consider them to be close friends, but he's just a bit shier than either of them. Well, it's not hard to be shier than Hitoya and Kuukou...
Rei is on a first-name basis with Ichijiku in an effort to be rude with her. She presumably does not want him to call her "Ichijiku-chan," but Rei most certainly does not care.
Nemu is also on a first-name basis with Ichijiku (Ichijiku-san), which I'm chalking up to the fact that she and Ichijiku do seem to be close outside of work.
Also, when characters talk about someone they don't know well, they usually use first and last name without honorific. That's pretty similar to English conventions, too. "Hey, you know that comedian Sasara Nurude?" "Hey, you know that actor Jack Black?" Same deal.
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lukevonhagen · 1 year
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my take on marius von hagen: part two, neglect
hello beautiful world and all who inhabit it, welcome to episode two of "z likes to make marius worse"! in this episode, i'm going to be going over my interpretation of marius' family dynamic in canon, as opposed to how i headcanon it should be (in my humble opinion).
edit: wow this is about 1.2k words and not under a read more, sorry!
the catalyst for this post is a tweet............... that resonated with my version of marius, but i felt didn't make sense for canon marius.
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firstly, i'd like to say that to my recollection, canon marius has never given off any kind of indication his family was neglectful. busy? absolutely. but, with the way he explained things, it always came off like they made sure to always make time for him. for example, he talks about the importance of a lover's tradition he has in his immediate family in his card where he bakes with mc, it's such a profound thing that he says he never understood until he himself fell in love. it's intimate and yet, marius had such a close proximity to his family that he was privy to that.
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in other words, marius' desire for something so strongly [because he saw what his father and brother had] reads as him being around them plenty enough to be able to discern that romantic love was different from familial love. he confirms he knows what a familial love is in the same breath as his confession that he wanted to know what a romantic love felt like.
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the biggest piece of evidence though, to me, is when marius says he hadn't left stellis until he was older because his family was worried for his safety after that traumatic incident that left him afraid of being in dark and claustrophobic spaces.
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contextually, all of these things seem to only prove that marius was not only around giann and austin all the time, but as a child he was likely smothered by them because they were looking to protect him. if his family were neglectful of his person, i feel it would reflect in the way he interacts with them in the present. we've seen his relationship to his father, and there's nothing tense about it; they talk comfortably, and austin even teases him like marius teases others. marius isn't uncomfortable with confiding in his father, and he's fiercely protective of his brother; he loves his family, and constantly makes sacrifices to protect them.
now, because i like to make marius worse instead of fixing him, here is where i shift strictly into headcanon territory.
this is how i feel the von hagen family dynamic should be, based on what we know about marius so far:
marius has a strained relationship to his father. giann was the glue that held the rest of the family together, and in his disappearance, the relationship between marius and austin began to crumble once again.
this =/= me saying austin was abusive or that he was a bad father, i just think that in the grand scheme of things, it made sense that he was emotionally absent and unavailable.
short explanation of my thoughts on the topic: emotional neglect is a thing marius experienced because of the tragedy that changed his family before he was even old enough to know a family that wasn't broken up already. austin certainly wasn't around as much and kinda left everything to giann, not because he didn't care about marius, but because he had no idea how to talk to his younger son and how to process his emotions correctly. he lost his wife and was still grieving, and in the wake of his grief, he was unable to tend to the needs of his son who suffered because of it. giann was better off simply because he was the older son and was able to be more independent.
long explanation: after someone else planted the seed that marius was responsible for this horrible trauma that was inflicted on the von hagen family unit, marius began to earnestly believe that he was responsible for the death of his mother.
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as a result, marius got really sick, physically, because of the stress this put on his young mind and body. austin, in his own mess, was unable to properly tend to his son because he couldn't internalize and work through his own feelings of grief, and was not present to discuss this brush of emotion marius was left to deal with by himself. austin's only solution due to this separation was to try to get professional help for marius' ailment. when that didn't work, he sent him away, thinking a change of scenery would help him in his own grief.
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in this version of events, marius did not heal properly. (as i have mentioned before, i don't believe the ferris wheel story is very realistic or likely, because i don't think marius has the emotional maturity to be able to heal himself from his anguish. he was only a child.) he simply realized that he needed to "atone" for his "sin" of existing by making sure that his mother's death was not in vain. he devoted himself to becoming the picture perfect second son of the von hagen family, in order to protect his family name and make sure nothing befell of them in the future.
after all, he saw himself as a blight that ruins things for the people around him. first, his mother, and then giann when he disappeared. marius worked even harder, by that point, to preserve giann's legacy because it's a tangible thing he could focus on whilst trying to find out where he is and what happened to him. it wasn't that marius didn't not still feel the love of his mother (of course he feels it in the little things that shows she's still always going to be a part of his life, even though he didn't get to know her), but it's more like he felt he didn't deserve it, because he's the reason she lost her life.
all of this trauma and the feelings of self-loathing he internalized as a result of his mother's death forced him to grow up too fast, and he grew up without the emotional attention and crutch afforded from a father. only giann was really there for him in the emotionally complex way he needed to be, but giann had his own responsibilities and his own life to tend to as well.
marius would grow to resent his father as an adult, but would be conflicted in feeling that way, because it all circles back to marius thinking he needs to prove that his mother didn't die for nothing and that he deserves everything that came his way. giann was the person between them that made communication possible, and when he left, marius didn't even have that to fall back on.
i don't mind that in canon, marius and austin seem to have a great relationship; it makes sense that the von hagens stick together when people try to screw them over. it's just not really my cup of tea knowing what i know. if hoyoverse didn't throw in random traumatic events, marius having the picture perfect family and having a more easygoing disposition would be more believable and because of this, sometimes i feel like his traumas do him a disservice. it makes sense that if his traumas were explored in a way that was more meaningful, he and his family would be more broken… and the dog eat dog high society world they live in contributed more to it.
marius' resentment towards the perpetual façade of his fame, in turn, would just be a natural progression of the state of things.
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I wanted to ask, there was a whole discussion about whether masters could have romantic relationships with their apprentices. Although I don't know if there is an immortal Master who has a relationship with their student, I wanted to ask if there has really been such a case? I don't want to assume anything. as I remember that puti avoided sexual stuff because he couldn't lose his essence so to speak and that SWK followed the same advice. However, I understand that an immortal Master is not the same as a normal Master. However, I also understand that Puti was a disciple of Buddha and that Buddhists do not have relationships or have this rule either (correct me if I am wrong). But again, I don't want to assume anything.
…Well, master-student romance is a very popular trope in Wuxia/Xianxia webnovels, especially danmei. Personally, it is not my cup of tea, but eh, Your Kink is not My Kink and That is Okay.
But if you are talking about master-disciple relationship in a strictly traditional sense? Yeah, no, it is much more explicitly paternal in nature, thus the saying "A teacher for a day is a father for a lifetime" (一日为师,终生为父). And by paternal, I mean in the Confucian sense, with a roughly similar level of deference owed to your senior.
From the outset, you can see that there is a major power imbalance and…well, unfortunate implications when it comes to master-disciple romance or sexual relationships, at least for people who take Confucian morality, as well as their vows of celibacy seriously.
You may see it in more marginal folk religions——for cults that didn't take vows of celibacy or disallow marriages, husbands could teach their wives, or wives their husbands (like Hu Yong'er and Wang Ze in 三遂平妖传, but Hu Yong'er is also like, a fox demoness reincarnated, so I'm not sure how applicable this is?), or esoteric branches of Daoism and Buddhism that allowed for sex and intimacy in cultivation (which I know little of, other than how those practices are often misunderstood, and will not attempt to explain).
I suppose Lv Dongbin and White Peony from JTTE could count as a dubious example, in that they slept with each other (Lv Dongbin is kinda a playboy in folklore) and White Peony was given a thing that could help her "transcend mortality" and she indeed becomes an immortal later, but even then, he did not take her in as a disciple. It's more…Daoist friends with benefits.
Still, traditionally, such relationship was very much not mainstream, and likely taboo.
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Meet the Character Monday #3
Ash - Tigerverse (The Caged Tiger, The Freed Tiger, The Pet Tiger)
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[Image ID: A sketch of my OC Ash. The drawing is a shoulders-up portrait of Ash smiling and facing to the right side of the screen. As this is supposed to be before The Caged Tiger, his hair is shoulder-length and he is uninjured. His left eye is blank as if clouded by a cataract. He is shirtless and his muscles are clearly visible. The whole piece is done in shades of orange. /End ID]
(Ash smiling! Wow! Yes, it's possible! This drawing is representative of what he looked like right before his capture: happy, healthy, without major scars, but after he lost his stripes/tail/ears.)
Basic Info:
Name: Moss Pelt (Ash) Catteau
Age: 26(ish)
Birthday: Spring? (Aries) Ash doesn't know his specific birth date
Height: 6' 4" (193 cm)
Hair: Black
Eyes: Green
Favorite Color: Green or orange
Gender ID and Orientation: Is very comfortable as a man but has never thought about it (much more concerned about his status as human vs beast), is attracted to both men and women but once again never put much thought into it. If it needed a label, he might say he’s “my partner”-sexual. While I also wouldn’t call him “poly” per se, he’s not strictly monogamous in the traditional human way.
Pronouns: He/him (never, ever “it”)
Other: accidental autistic rep (oops), tiger-human hybrid creature
What's Ash's role in the story? Ash is a human(ish) barbarian and the protagonist of the Tigerverse series. He is the current partner of Evius, who was previously romantically involved with Ash’s whumper: Ozmund Greenthorn. Ash was originally created as a character for an ongoing DnD campaign, though the stories on this blog mostly divert from the canon of that game.
Fun Facts about Ash:
Due to his tiger heritage and upbringing, Ash can communicate with cats and (with some effort) most other animals. He’s also picked up bits and pieces of other languages based on whomever he interacts with most (including a little Elven from Kane and Infernal from Evius).
Ash, like all tigers, is red-green colorblind. He only learned this after being with the party for some time—he didn’t realize he had orange fur. In fact, Evius’ coppery tiefling skintone doesn’t look much different to Ash than his human disguise. He can, however, distinguish shades of blue and yellow. (I’m just now realizing he probably doesn’t realize Mouse’s hair is pink. Bummer.)
Even in his human form, Ash has heightened animal-like senses which often overwhelm him. For that reason, he tends to dislike crowded areas and sticks close to Evius or Kane in the city.
He does not have a barbed penis, but man do we love to joke about it lol
His intelligence is kind of paradoxical. He didn’t have any formal education, and just about everything he knows about the “civilized” world came from Kane, so he’s not exactly “book-learned.” But, for the same reasons, he doesn’t have a lot of social knowledge either. His intellect is mostly centered around his knowledge of the natural world and survival, as well as his keen skills of observation and problem-solving. When his intelligence increased from the mindflayer tadpole, it mostly just made it easier for him to learn things and put concepts together; it didn’t impart any factual knowledge on him. Almost like he had ADHD and got adderall for the first time lol
That being said, he did become more aware of all the social rules he hadn’t noticed or cared about before. Suddenly, he felt embarrassed at being seen nude because now he could put together that not everyone was as comfortable as him and that most people felt some amount of shame about nudity. It also helped him finally connect the pieces that his attraction to Evius wasn’t just platonic.
Hilarious corollary: Hsa (what the tadpole named itself) has experienced the world through Ash since it was implanted. Meaning, it has felt everything Ash has felt and seen everything he’s seen. It knows all his thoughts and feelings. It has seen aaallll of Ash and Evius’ . . . interactions.
Biggest Secret: Ash would love to have a big family and lots of babies. He’s even fantasized about being pregnant—he’s still a little shaky on exactly how humanoid biology works. (And Evius’ player has forbidden me from writing mpreg fanfic boooo)
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Shag - There Isn't a Rule - Strictly NRC Dancing
Author's Notes: Fun fact, I once met an older lady in a shoe store who actually taught me, my sister, and my mom a few steps of shag-dancing while we chatted. Please note that this all of the shag dancing I haver learned within my lifetime. As such I had to look up this dance style as well. I am sorry to say that I couldn't find any Youtube examples so all I can offer you are my paltry descriptions in the fic below. That said, I actually rather enjoyed writing this fic. It came together quickly and I really hope that doesn't show in the quality. Just like the rest of this AU/series the reader is female for this fic. I hope you enjoy!
If you would like to read more this AU/series, the fics can be found here: Strictly NRC Dancing AU Master-List
Type: Dance AU/female reader/fluff/platonic or romantic (whichever you prefer)
Word Count: 806
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Shag dancing was incredibly simple while also being incredibly difficult, if that made any sense. All I had to do was slip around the floor in an eight-step dance pattern that flew by at impressive speeds as I mirrored the lead. It was meant to be a very fun dance that could be packed full of improvisation and imagination. 
Which was possibly why Riddle had been struggling quite so much this entire time. 
While there were rules for him to rely on, there weren’t as many as there were in the traditional dances that he’d told me he was already acquainted with. 
Apparently his mother had included teaching him the slow waltz, another simple dance, in his early curriculum. As such, he’d been fully prepared for another, rather stuffy dance jam-packed with rules.
Instead, he was being forced to slip and slide across the floor, with me mirroring his motions. I could understand why he’d been frustrated since before our choreography practice. 
It seemed that improvisation and the idea of dancing for fun did not come easily to him.
The slippery, incredibly free nature of the shag was at odds with his more rigid nature. He had the steps down pat, but he lacked the ease and playfulness that was at the heart of the dance. 
Even now, while we were performing, there was a certain strictness to his form. Though he slid across the floor and led me through the dance flawlessly, there was no enjoyment in his motions. Instead, there was intense concentration and a strange rigidity that clashed with the dance itself.
I smiled, almost sadly, at the boy who was so intent on completing the steps perfectly that he’d missed the entire purpose of the dance. To have fun.
He passed the class, but not with full marks by any means. His shock was palpable, as Vargas, of all people, was the one who delivered the blow, “You pass with a C. While your technicality was flawless, there was no freedom to your motions and joy to your performance. The dance itself was hollow, and you hardly even made eye contact with the Prefect because you were so intent on your steps.”
Riddle blinked at the instructors, wide-eyed before he looked towards me. The shock on his face clear as the room began to empty. After all, his had been the last performance for this class.
“I don’t understand. I performed all of the motions perfectly and followed all the rules, but-”
“Riddle,” I gently interrupted the spiraling boy, “It’s alright. You passed.”
“But it doesn’t make sense!” He shook his head, a frown beginning to start as irritation seeped into his tone, “Why didn’t I receive a higher grade when I did everything required by the dance?”
I sighed before walking over to the boombox and silently pressing the play button on the CD player. I gestured for him to join me in the middle floor, “Here, let me show you.”
He frowned, obviously still annoyed, even as he followed me, “I really don’t see the point in doing this again. It will be the same as it was last time.”
I smiled at him as I took his hand in mine and let my other hand rest on his shoulder, “Yes, but this time why don’t you relax and enjoy yourself. The steps aren’t as important as the experience is.”
He was still frowning as his large grey eyes met mine and his frown turned pouty, a subtle show that, despite his maturity, he was still just a teenage boy. “They shouldn’t have docked my grade merely because I didn’t laugh and play around like the others. Nowhere does it say that such things are required.”
I laughed quietly, despite myself, at the boy before at last responding in a quiet tone, “Yes, but you can’t exactly order someone to have fun, can you?”
He blinked at me, seemingly startled, as I continued, “There isn’t a rule that tells you to enjoy yourself because that can’t be forced. You either enjoy yourself or you don’t. The point of shag dancing is to have fun, but that can’t be a requirement because then it wouldn’t be genuine.”
I smiled at him as the song we’d danced to just moments ago began to steadily fill the room with lighthearted music that went totally ignored, “That said, I do hope you can enjoy yourself this time around.” As I spoke, I lightly squeezed his hand and watched as a faint smile glimmered across his face.
He stepped back, obviously ready to begin dancing, belatedly, to the music, “I think… I understand.” There was the gentlest pressure on my hand and his eyes darted away from my face in an almost bashful fashion as he continued, “And I think I’ll enjoy myself this time…”
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Headcanon: loving styles
Russia: He doesn’t see people in romantic sense for the most part, as he usually treats them as friends or family at most if they’re kind and affectionate to him. Not strictly aromantic nor asexual, just that he wants friends and family more than romantic partners so he acts in accordance to those wishes. He’s far from being a prude tho, but because he sometimes has weird ideas about sex or not understanding the ethics well enough he usually needs more mature partners with good boundaries or partners who are similarly strong and resilient so they can handle him well. Gender is of no importance because he doesn’t really see it himself, and maybe he sometimes doesn’t even perceive the differences between men and women because he really doesn’t care (he’s baby).
Mongolia: hard and fast but hardly possessive. Very in-the-moment loving style so he doesn’t really think in the terms of long term relationships. Prefers casual or open relationships but can be loyal if his partner(s) want that from him. Can easily cut his partners off too without looking back if whatever it is between them has expired, or if it’s unsalvageable because he has pretty low tolerance for drama these days. As he’s a very physical person, he channels intimacy through touch for the most part, and sparring can easily turn sensual. Sometimes has multiple partners at the same time, and his partners typically have to be the same relaxed people to avoid problem and drama about basically anything.
He used to be possessive once, and had been treated possessively in return to detriment, which made him think it was so much a pain that he doesn’t want relationships with super possessive people anymore these days, and he stopped being possessive himself after he lost a lot in his life. Not angst or anything though, just acceptance and adaptability. Life is fickle and nothing is eternal, so now he wants simpler things.
Turkey: an inherently dominant person who loves being a center of attention and admiration (even if it’s a bit dulled and masked these days). Loves beautiful women and pretty men, and going on fun fun adventures with them. Wants to establish Turanic harem, good luck Turkey.
Kazakhstan: generally traditional in his loving style; attentive towards his partner’s technical needs, showering them with gifts, and protective like a ~good~ man. He desires long term committed relationships and thinks in those terms as well. This perhaps sounds a bit too idealized and naive for nations like him, but in his defense he’s still pretty young (only 557 years young now) and it’s borne from him lacking personal experience in romantic department. He has many people around him waiting for him to be more relaxed and casual so they can have some fun with him tho, lol. Kazakhstan also happens to be pretty damn naive in regards to relationships, so he often makes funny spectacles this way.
You may ask how is Kazakhstan 557 years old and without romantic experience? The answer is that he’s been working his ass off in order to be Rich and Powerful so there ain’t just no time for funsies.
Uzbekistan: much like Kazakhstan he’s not into casual relationship and is monogamous (they’re after all traditional minded brothers), but since he’s so generally friendly, empathetic and affectionate many people think he must be having relations left and right, when in fact he’s actually pretty damn choosy. Unlike Kazakhstan though, he’s far from being naive about relationships as he has had experiences under his belt (he had more options historically than Kazakhstan) and he’s much better at people. He loves by making his partner feel good; by listening to their problems and offering advice if he can, by taking them out to do fun stuff together, by cooking hearty foods for them, or by snuggles if that’s what his partner wants. When his partner feels good he feels good himself.
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bgtop · 4 months
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get to know the mun ! very long post, under readmore.
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name / alias. theo !
are you over 18 ? yes. no.
WRITING.
are you selective about who you write with ? no (anyone.) semi (most people.) yes (some people.) highly (few people.) private.
i mostly write and focus on discussed plots / dynamics with friends, but i also like small / unplotted interactions ! i do best with people i've talked with ooc, so hmu if you're wanting to write more with me !
are you selective about who you follow ? no (anyone.) semi (most people.) yes (some people.) highly (few people.)
if your muse is canon, how much do you adhere to canon ? not at all. a little. some. mostly. strictly. not applicable.
what post lengths do you write? one - liners. single - para. multi - para. novella. all of the aforementioned.
do you use icons and/or gifs ? no. gifs. icons. yes. sometimes.
do you write on other platforms? no. yes.
selectively on discord with people i trust.
what level of plots do you write? unplotted. open - ended plots. semi - plotted. fully plotted epics. all of the aforementioned.
how quickly do you usually respond to threads ? very slow (more than a month.) slow (3 - 4 weeks.) average (1 - 2 weeks.) fast (less than one week.) very fast (less than three days.) depends on my motivation, this can make it range from days to weeks.
usually around a week / a few days on average, but lately it's taken longer from irl situations.
what types of themes do you like ? adventure. romance. fluff. angst. violence. tragedy. domestic. family*. all of the aforementioned.
* family not necessarily in a traditional sense with steve, but as a general liking. angst is a case by case basis, moreso ' vulnerable talk ' than anything super dark.
what genres do you like? high fantasy. supernatural. science fiction. historical. horror. comedy. romantic. drama. action. smut. adventure. espionage. all of the aforementioned.
are there any themes you’re uncomfortable writing on your blog ? (not triggers) no. yes. it depends.
i don't rly do anything super dark / angsty as said, ditto with genuine sexual content.
do you have any triggers ? how do you request it tagged ? technically i do ? none would show up on here tho.
SHIPPING.
what types of relationships are you open to ? romantic. platonic. familial. other. all of the aforementioned.
what types of pre - established relationships are you open to ? romantic. platonic. familial. other. all of the aforementioned.
do you have otps ? no. chemistry only. yes.
do you have notps ? no. yes.
what is your muse’s sexual orientation ? heterosexual. bisexual. pansexual. homosexual. demisexual. asexual. still trying to figure it out. depends on the muse you’re asking.
what is your muse’s romantic orientation? heteroromantic. biromantic. homoromantic. panromantic. demiromantic. aromantic. still trying to figure it out. depends on the muse you’re asking.
are you comfortable writing smut ? no. selectively. yes.
how early in a relationship do you ship romantically ? autoship. during plotting. after a couple ic interactions. several ic interactions. slow burn. plot dependent. never.
are you open to toxic ships ? no. selectively. yes. i am not sure.
are you open to problematic ships ? no. selectively. yes. i am not sure.
are you open to polyshipping ? no. selectively. yes. i am not sure.
are you an exclusive shipper ? never. sometimes. yes. i would be open to discuss it.
does crack shipping ever happen ? nope. yes. depends.
tagged. gotten
tagging. @jellodoc and ermmm whoever would like to
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Wukong's technically gone through many interpretations before the book because of oral tradition! He only became a major religious figure due to the popularity of the book! :3
Because of Xuanzang's tale he started as a helpful monkey spirit/deity that helped lead the monk to India.
Then he was interpreted as a horny demon who had a wife he kidnapped, joked about his private parts and was extremely lecherous that eventually got split and turned into Bajie!
Then were were several at the time of the Ming Dynasty sequels that shipped him with Princess Iron Fan and another that gave him children (in that one it was set after the Journey where he was still a buddha!)
I think it's healthy to explore these interpretations because each journey to Buddhism is different. Some become more monastic. Some become more layman and pursue a family.
I've never heard of those interpretations- wow-
Crazy to think someone made a sequel where Wukong stole his (sworn) brother's girl and had kids with her sfkjgbdfkj that is Stone Cold :P
Each journey to Buddhism is different, yes, but I've seen it largely repeated and emphasized that celibacy plays a major factor. Immortals have been cast from Heaven for having romantic relationships, so to me it never makes sense for Wukong to be allowed to be a Buddha with a partner and biological children. I'm just explaining why I'm confused, by the way, not meaning to be argumentative-
Specifically when I look at Wukong's journey, I take into account that it was during 620+ CE when the celibate side of things was extremely strictly enforced to the point where it makes even less sense for him to pursue romance. Not only that, but in the version I read he was never tempted by any demonesses and would gladly run circles around them, so going off of that celibacy never seemed something he'd want to break...and he certainly wasn't a man-whore. That's almost scary to think about, I guess the Ming Dynasty was his Slut Arc (/silly /not serious)
I will say this, though, you might be the first person I've talked to who takes this fact from a genuinely educational stand-point (and that is a good thing I am genuinely thanking you for). The only times I've seen people refute Wukong's celibacy are when people are for some reason rabidly desperate to ship themselves with a deity while treating him like a character from a fandom, hence why I get just a weensy bit defensive over the matter of his celibacy.
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When you talk about the 'allowed homosocial model', what do you mean? Aren't gay friendships already something that exists outside the allowed homosocial model? What's with the fixation on bros? Isn't it a loaded term in terms of the required gender performance to be a bro?
I mean the way that men are in some sense allowed to form really deep emotional bonds with each other but in a way that's described to be unique and different than the way they connect romantically with women
I have no clue what you're referring to or asking here. If you mean strictly ~platonic~ gay friendships, I never even mentioned those in the post? But.. sure?
There's no fixation on bros. I understand that a lot of gay men are foaming at the mouth over heterosexual dudes because of some weird inferiority complex, but that's not what's happening here, there's just a passing resemblance. I just genuinely like connecting with other men in a way that's usually described as broey and I'm adding my homosexuality into that. It's like a grafted citrus tree
If bro is a loaded/problematic term for you because there's a required gender performance, I wonder how you'd feel about "butch", "femme", "twink", and "bear", lmfao. I hope you understand that it's literally fine to categorize people and patterns as long as you aren't enforcing them and being weird about it. The angle I'm working from is not "gay men! we must renounce our femininity and rejoin masc society!" but rather "hey if you like wearin boots and you'd rather connect with other men in a more bromantic way but with emotional safety and sexuality vs a traditional idea of romance/relationships, youre valid and this is how it's been working for me"
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againstacecilia · 2 years
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Pride Terminology
LGBTQIA+. That's a lot of letters!
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Let's start with the basics, what do each of the letters stand for?
L - Lesbian G - Gay B - Bisexual T - Transgender Q - Queer/Questioning I - Intersex A - Asexual + - To include any and all identities not named above
What started as just LGBT has grown to encompass a much wider range of identities. Just as language shifts, the encapsulating "label" for the community changes.
Some folx favor referencing the community as "the queer community", although that can sometimes cause problems. In the past, "queer" as been a term of ridicule and used as a slur, so many people worry that it's not a proper label to use. I, personally, use it as a self-identifier because it's easier than going through the motions of talking about how the boxes of sexuality and gender don't always feel right, and how I'm bisexual but in a straight-passing relationship, and on and on. You'll see me refer to the LGBTQIA+ community as the queer community in future posts as I believe it's a wonderful umbrella term and feel good about reclaiming a word that has once held such vitriol. Some people also believe using the acronym for the community is ousting for the identities that aren't mentioned, and using queer involves everyone regardless of their identity.
So! With that, let's look just a bit deeper into some of the identities of the queer community. I'll have another post going even deeper into what they mean individually, but this will be a sort of overview for the time being. (All of these definitions come directly from the Glossary of LGBTQIA+ Terms put together by The Pride Center for Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity at Lehigh University.)
Aromantic – Person who experiences little or no romantic attraction to others. Also known as Aro.
Asexual – Person who does not experience sexual attraction. They may or may not experience emotional, physical, and/or romantic attraction. Asexuality differs from celibacy in that it is a sexual orientation, not a choice. Also known as Ace.
Bisexual – A person who experiences sexual, romantic, physical, and/or spiritual attraction to people of their own gender as well as other genders, not necessarily at the same time, in the same way, or to the same degree. Also known as Bi.
Cisgender – someone who feels comfortable with the gender identity assigned to them based on their physical sex. Also known as Cis.
Demisexual – A person who does not experience sexual attraction unless they form a strong emotional connection with someone. It's more commonly seen in but by no means confined to romantic relationships. Is under the umbrella of Asexuality.
Gay – 1. Used in some cultural settings to represent men who are exclusively or primarily attracted to other men in a romantic, erotic and/or emotional sense. 2. A general term for gay men and lesbians.
Heterosexual – A medical definition for a person who is primarily or exclusively attracted to those of a different sex or gender. Also known as straight.
Homophobia – Direct negative attitudes toward and unfair treatment of people who identify or are perceived as non­heterosexual, including the fear of being read as part of the LGBT community. Homophobic behavior can range from telling gay jokes, to verbal abuse, to acts of physical violence.
Intersex – Individual(s) born with the condition of having physical sex markers (genitals, hormones, gonads, or chromosomes) that are neither clearly male nor female. Intersex people are sometimes defined as having “ambiguous” genitalia.
Lesbian – Term used to describe women who are exclusively or primarily attracted to other women in a romantic, erotic, and/or emotional sense.
Non-Binary – A gender identity which doesn't fit in the "traditional" gender binary of "man" or "woman". Someone who is non-binary feels that their gender doesn't fit a strictly "male" or "female" definition, and there are many expressions of non-binary identities. Also known as enby. I will have a whole post on gender expression, and thank you to @colerambles for pointing out that I left this out originally!
Pansexual – A person who has the potential to experience sexual, romantic, physical, and/or spiritual attraction for members of all gender identities/expressions.
Queer – 1. An umbrella term which includes lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, trans* people, intersex persons, radical sex communities, and many other sexually transgressive communities. 2. This term is sometimes used as a sexual orientation label or gender identity label used to denote a non­heterosexual or cisgender identity without having to define specifics. 3. A reclaimed word that was formerly used solely as a slur but that has been reclaimed by some folks in the LGBTQ community. Nevertheless, a sizable percentage of people to whom this term might apply still hold “queer‟ to be a hateful insult.
Questioning – An individual who is unsure of and/or exploring their gender identity and/or sexual orientation.
Transgender – A person who identifies with a gender other than the gender they were assigned at birth. Sexual orientation varies and is not dependent on gender identity.
Trans* – An abbreviation that is used to refer to a transgender/gender queer/ gender non­conforming person. This use allows a person to state a gender variant identity without having to disclose hormonal or surgical status/intentions. This term is sometimes used to refer to the whole gender non­conforming community that might include (but is not limited to) transgender, genderqueer, gender fluid, non­binary, genderf*ck, transsexual, agender, third gender, two­spirit, bigender, trans man, trans woman, gender non­conforming, trans masculine, trans feminine, and gender questioning.
As an addition, please remember that these definitions are always changing. For example, another shoutout to @colerambles for sharing that her enby teen and their best friend define lesbian as "non-man loving non-man" and gay as "non-woman loving non-woman". Language and humanity is so beautiful in this way, that our understanding of things can get better when we all put our heads together and share.
There are so many more identities that I'm very excited to share with you! As always, asks are open and I'm happy to answer questions as best I can!
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Today's resource is PFLAG! PFLAG originally stood for Parents, Families, and Friends of Lesbians and Gays, but the organization now just goes by PFLAG. According to their website, "Our mission is to build on a foundation of loving families united with LGBTQ+ people and allies who support one another, and to educate ourselves and our communities to speak up as advocates until all hearts and minds respect, value and affirm LGBTQ people."
This is a wonderful resource for families to be better allies to their queer family members. Love and support are crucial for the wellbeing of folx in the LGBTQIA+ community. Learn more from their advocacy tools here and get support here.
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