#also literally do not doubt me for if some reason in s5 he says and acrually means ''i have feelings for robin still'' i would .. stop

[shopcat]

people will see two characters who are good friends ... best friends even ...live in each others pockets ... are incredibly important to each other and a really lovely and sweet and very simple example of friendship being important and fulfilling and meaningful and beautiful and not "just" friendship because there is no such thing... and then they will turn around and they haven't even finished the previous sentence before being like Oh but if this one wasn't a lesbian she would be in love with her male best friend and vice versa. obviously. or he has feelings for her but he "let them go" because she's a lesbian if she wasn't though they would date. in fact if this was a magical world where he was a girl all along they would be in love because all that stuff i said about friendship and importance was actually just words ?!

and like beyond the sheer lesbophobia and sheer CRUELTY for him to even consider either of them in that light on a regular basis i would honestly prefer people own the fuck up to what they're apparently trying to say here and fully commit to going "No, i DON'T actually think friendship that stays platonic and that factor of it will NEVER change can be equally important or MORE SO as other kinds of relationships and in fact i don't think the very idea exists i was just saying all that stuff about platonic nonromantic soulmates to just say it". right before the apparent mission statement of so many that is "if a lesbian is friends with a man i think her sexuality is getting in the way in one way or another". i wish you people just literally got your phones taken away and a parental lock put in place.

#i wish when you blocked people it hurt them. #he. and obv you know who i'm talking about. DOES NOT HAVE FEELINGS FOR HER #and she. DOES NOT HAVE AND NEVER HAS AND NEVER WOULD AND NEVER COULD HAVE FEELINGS FOR HIM #you're NOT going oh in another life we would've got married if i wasn't gay you're not DOING that #you're being WEIRD. STOP IT. ITS SO FUCKING EASY 😭😭😭 #if you seriously can't conceptualise any of those dumb hypotheticals where he's like a girl the whole time or shes Not a lesbian #where the end goal isn't ''oh so they can date now :)'' it's.... so they're still friends.... THEN YOURE INSANE ‼️‼️‼️ #AND POSSIBLY FUCKING EVIL‼️‼️‼️ #so they ''CAN'' date now sends shivers up my spine #this is what i mean when i say i hate that codependent shit now. no one can be normal about it and now i hate it all #i'm going to make anti codependent hcs to put negativity out there to balance it out. i don't think steve knows her last name #also anyone who thinks steve as of s4 has any sort of feelings for robin that is literally so gross 😭 why would you even like him if you #thought that. case in point and i'm NOT even exaggerating here that is what people who Hate steve say #as proof for hating him. cuz they think he has feelings for her. which is something you would hate him for #also literally do not doubt me for if some reason in s5 he says and acrually means ''i have feelings for robin still'' i would .. stop #liking him... it would be easy..... #sts #anyway. this isn't about trans content either that's a whole other . Thing. which i don't really care about right now

[raayllum]

What are your thoughts on Viren's feelings towards Soren, and how they have or haven't shifted over the course of the story (and may or may not continue to shift through the next three seasons)? (I see a lot of people arguing that Viren literally just never cared about him or something, but that feels like a very shallow and frankly boring interpretation.)

Received this ask pre S5 and only getting to it now so - apologies but I think there's enough in S3 for this as a whole so here we go

I think the heart of this lies in 3x03, since it's Viren and Soren's first interaction since 1x06 (and in some ways, their last "Soren hasn't defected" conversation, as he starts to majorly shift in 3x05) and partially because there are two conversations going on in well, said scene.

The first conversation is between Claudia and Viren, in a lot of ways, as Viren, after a brief, "I'm so glad to see you safe" (which, given Claudia's white streak and Soren's literal injury, is more than warranted) before he gets down to the heart of the matter:

V: The council is more concerned I broke a few rules. But none of that matters. The egg. Did you get it?

Viren delegated tasks to their children based on their personality and skill level, yes, but also, I think, per each task's importance. For Soren, Viren gave him a task that already had an out; the boys could very well die by the Moonshadow elf's or the landscape's harshness, leaving Soren not having to kill them. And killing the princes is important in Viren's machinations (it leaves the throne empty for him long term, and permanently so) but it's not the most important thing.

That, as he says, is the egg, and it's not surprising to me that that's the task he gives to Claudia. As he says to Claudia, the most important thing is that she comes back with the egg, both in 1x06, and in 3x03. The thing is that Soren, unlike Claudia, had zero context for any of this. And Claudia, unlike Viren, was the one who brought up the concept of having to choose between Soren and the egg (which she, for lack of a better conception of it, was also responsible for losing) in the first place. And whenever Viren is presented a problem or question, he answers it even if no one wants to hear or likes the answer.

Then Claudia explains that she let it fall back into Xadia's hands, offers up 'excuses,' and Viren asserts that Soren almost dying "doesn't matter". This isn't news to Claudia as she knew about it previously, but it is a reiteration she's going to have a harder time to ignore, and it leaves the seed of doubt in her to sprout that maybe Viren really did ask Soren to kill the princes, because "everything I do, everything I ask of you, is for the future of humanity".

She challenges him, yes, but she's also quick to buy the alternative he gives for reasons I've gone into more detail elsewhere, but mostly because if she believes him it lets her keep her dad and her brother. If she believes Soren, she only gets to keep him and it fractures their family further.

So Viren is not only saying stuff to Soren, he's also saying specifically what will work best to convince Claudia, since he's willing to throw Soren under the bus in order to keep her.

That being said:

The second conversation is still between Viren and Soren, because Soren actually knows everything, and Viren knows he knows it (and that Claudia does, to a degree, too), and Viren is also trying to convince Soren that what he thought was wrong. If both Soren and Claudia are back on board, that's the easiest way to proceed further.

After Viren says he's glad they're safe, he immediately inquires about the egg. He doesn't ask about the egg at all, and isn't upset all (as far as we know, he's aware that Ezran is in power before the deal with Kasef in 3x04, which I'm inclined to think) that Soren has failed his mission. He's only upset/angry when he finds out Claudia has - his primary concern is still "for humanity" > necessarily having power for himself, the throne another means to an end - and only upset that Soren that was seemingly the reason.

Nor does he seem very concerned that Soren is still doubtful/conflicted upon leaving. Definitely not happy about it and the way the conversation has gone (Viren in 3x07 is still fairly confident he has Soren's trust and is angry when his son doesn't go through with the 'gift fire' spell) but he seems to know that Claudia's bought into it all, and that's what matters to him the most on that level.

But the scene really is a great example of how Viren placing notions of the greater good legitimately over his family is what ultimately caused his downfall in arc 1. In the 5x03 dreams/flashbacks, Viren says "You're going to be okay, that's all that matters" -> "Soren could've died!" "That doesn't matter!"

It's like he's gotten so wrapped up in his own self importance / his vision for the world at large being one that his immediate family can exist 'safely' in he's looped around to being willing to throw them away like trash when they displease/disobey him (Harrow, Soren). Viren says he's always been willing to do anything for his family, but that isn't true in basically any season (he'll let guards, Harrow, and himself die in 1x02 rather than relinquish the egg to Xadia) and that's always been his biggest difference from Callum, tbh, to me. Because Viren says it, but Callum legitimately means it

It's the classic "He cares about his kids/Soren but not enough until it's like, way too late" (whereas Callum cares too much and then it's too late but like. meta for another day) which imo is way more realistic. Most people do love and care for other people. Whether that love and care is enough, or is understood/expressed by either party, is where things get tricky

#tdp viren #morally ambiguous family #s3 #3x03 #arc 1 #ljf613 #requests #analysis series #analysis

[unsanedes]

S5 Theo may have been slightly evil, but he was also pretty whenever he appeared, so there's that...

I'm going to talk about (and rate) 9/technically 10 of Theo's best appearances/outfits from my screenshots folder of season 5. I'm doing this in no particular order by the way.

1. First of all, this look was nothing shy of ✨ANGELIC✨ I loved the plain black V-neck shirt; it was simple, but *chef's kiss* simple.

This was also one of the few times I actually really liked his hair being cut that way.

Oh, and the lighting was AMAZING with how it really drove home that angelic look.

10/10 without a doubt 💫

2. Okay, so Theo wasn't completely decent here. I have respectfully covered him up a bit with a nice shirt (I tried to, but the marker doesn't scale and I wasn't painting the entire torso.)

This appearance was top tier from the way he terrorized Liam and Mason after chasing them as a wolf, for some reason. (I still don't know why Theo did that.)

From his smirky face and snarky attitude to the god awful night time lighting, this scene has it all. (I was uncomfortable when Theo walked away and we saw his bare ass legs, though. No, thank you.)

7/10 because Theo was very entertaining, but them bare legs was a no for me 😔

3. For this one you get a double feature simply because he's wearing the same outfit.

I loved the class scene with Theo's fun little confident air about him. I also loved the superhero landing scene as Theo went to confront Liam and Stiles about stalking him in the woods.

Theo just had to turn the tables on them and hide in a tree, then he just HAD to jump out of it and land like Superman to show off.

His hoodie was also very lovely and nice. It looked very comfortable 🥰

Only 8/10 for this one, though, because the drawstrings should have been black.

4. Anyone who has ever read some of my posts on here knows how much I LOVE this look and scene!!!

I am very biased, but every aspect of this scene was breathtaking and masterful.

From the very good mood lighting in the rain (I love rain) to the perfectly shaped eyebrows on his face.

Oh, and you can't see his outfit, but that jacket with red and black plaid sleeves was so GOOOOOD looking. It suited him so well!!!

10/10 because Theo was amazing here and his look went hard in that rain 🤭

5. This scene was amazing for both Thiam and Thayden reasons.

I'll be the first to admit that his outfit wasn't great. His hair did save the day along with his posture and the way he looked at Liam, taunting him 🫣👀

From the way Theo was standing close to Hayden to the way he kept his eyes on Liam almost the entire time, this scene has it all.

9/10 because while the outfit sucked, the scene itself was top tier 😘

6. Now, I haven't gotten to this scene in my (second) rewatch and I don't totally remember it, but the look goes HARD.

Theo's hair looks amazingly evil here. His jacket is top tier with how cool it looks. The lighting is just going to prove that Theo is a literal angel sent from below. Last, but not least, the WAY he's looking away is ALAKAKSSJSHJSJSSJSN.

10/10 and must I say why? 😉

7. I don't totally remember this scene either other than Theo talking about first loves in that jacket. Plus, a very soft scene with Scott that makes you think they were childhood crushes.

That memory alone has been ingrained into my brain so I love this look on Theo forever now.

Regardless of that scene, Theo looks amazing in that black jacket and his hair looks perfect!!!

11/10 because his scene with Scott really sold it 🥹

8. This look was just so hrrrrrm. In a good way.

The pompous flirty boy attitude and the JACKET that sells it ALL. I love that jacket so much, I want to wear that jacket. Not because Theo has worn it, but because it's a really nice jacket and it accentuates all of his torso so well. He has such canonically good taste.

I, unfortunately, have to digress that this scene is not 10/10 for me because of its atrociously depressive lighting. Somehow, Jeff Davis managed to ruin this perfect scene (aside from the dumb flirting with Malia) with some bottom tier level lighting.

3/10 fck you, Jeff 🤬

9. HRRRM.

Last, but, ooooooOooOOOOH, so not least. This scene wasn't anything special really, but the OUTFIT. The hair is okay, but the OUTFIT.

I love, love, LOVE this top on Theo so much. It suits him so well!!!!!!

Oh, and the POSE. HRM.

20/10 because I make the rules and I'm a simp for Theo Raeken 🥳

#theo raeken #teen wolf #rating outfits #theo raeken is beautiful and amazing #he commands every scene he's in and is an angel #the people he murdered just got in his way (jkjkjk)

[nelllover]

This is all so true! Logan constantly gaslights Rory, makes her doubt herself, talks her out of her feelings and ends up making her feel unsure of herself, he literally toys with her and plays mind games with her at first and ghosts her leaving her wondering what she has done wrong. He makes her feel so bad about herself while at the same time not being able to leave him even when he does. Exactly like Dean is shitty but Logan is so so shitty and people overlook his red flags so often and pretend he's perfect. Like yeah they had a few cute moments and where he wasn't a total ass but the overall time of there relationship he was horrible to her and he did cause her to start changing herself for him to the point where she started to feel lost! He cheats on her then gaslights her and invalidates her feelings for it! Like some people may or may not view it as cheating but the fact of the matter is Rory felt cheated and he completely invalidated her! He blame shifts all the time. The conversation where he starts yelling at her in the pub about "I didn't tell her to quit Yale you did that" like she wasn't even talking about him but he made it all about himself flipped it around to make it like "don't you dare blame me" she wasn't even blaming him. I could go on and on about all the reasons Logan makes me so mad! It's so cathartic that you feel the same! Sorry about my long rant I saw your tags and yeah it's all so true!

First of all, never apologize for ranting it's my favorite thing and second I agree 100% with you!!

The scene with Rory crying on the bathroom floor will always make me sad and the fact that I've seen so many of the Rogan shippers talk about that scene like it's proof that he's the bf that Rory loved the most (no I'm not kidding they really count that scene as a win) when personally I think it's the start of the toxic cycle that is their relationship.

The cycle is: They get together something happens they fight instead of dealing with it Logan ghosts her and then he shows up out of nowhere and expects everything to go back to normal (and sadly most of the time Rory lets it slide :( )

My biggest problem with Dean is that he gives me the vibe that at any second he could get physically abusive but at least in canon he doesn't do anything as bad as Logan (altho he definitely manipulated the hell out of Rory and Lindsey in the S4 arc) and like I get why he's the most hated but at the same time, I really think that title should go to Logan (Dean's biggest crime in canon is having absolutely no personality).

Honestly to me, any cute Rogan moment gets overshadowed by the fact that Logan treats Rory like a rug 99% of the time (also most of those moments are so cringy like the 'workdork' thing were the S7 writers trying so badly to make them have a 'booktease' scene I'm sure of it)

On the Rory changing thing I agree 100%. Rory in S5 was trying to play a role she was trying so badly to be what she thought Logan wanted that she lost herself (which I think contributed to the breakdown that she had in S6) and Logan didn't even realize because let's be honest he doesn't know her! The man didn't even know her birthday!!

And yes people need to understand that if to Rory it felt like cheating then it was cheating (granted I don't think there is any way to not make it sound like cheating but don't ask them to make sense) and his weird Ross Geller like speech doesn't change that!!!

The scene in the pub is so funny to me in the sense that she didn't say shit about him she was talking about herself but he got so butthurt! like damn you called yourself out! she didn't have to say anything!

The thing is that yes, Rory is an adult and she made a choice but that does not change the fact that Logan was more than happy about it he didn't try to talk to her about it. I'm not saying that he should have dragged her back to Yale but he didn't try and as her boyfriend, he needs to be real with her and call her out when she's doing something stupid! (and guess who actually does that)

See no reason to apologize about the length of your rant I did worst!!

#logan huntzberger i will always hate you #rory my love you deserve better!!! #anti logan huntzberger #anti dean forester #nell is obsessed with gilmore girls tag #gilmore girls

[chirpsythismorning]

What do you think about Byler's first kiss being like kiss #1 or #3 from this Eyewitness video? https://youtu.be/twVy0GJQnXo

#1 ! It already fits their dynamic a little too on the nose, and at this exact point in Stranger Things as well. Like the whole you're amazing line reminds me of the painting scene. Also the blocking feels very much like the cabin scene at the end of s4. They could very swiftly put Will and Mike in a situation just like this one. sooner than later, with Mike making the first move and Will being confused about it, not even making the move to meet him halfway at first. Though, I don't see it going much further than that bc tbh I actually picture this more eloquently as an almost kiss?

Whereas #3 is giving more so second kiss? Like after a stressful confrontation or something? We know this literal scene from Eyewitness, with them in the garage in front of the car, could very well have been used as inspiration for the s3 byler rain fight, so that could fit the idea of them kissing after their highly anticipated potential 3rd fight in s5?

I do think their first kiss is something that we've all assumed has to happen at the very, very end of the season. However, I've come to realize that's sort of a cliche? Not saying they can't kiss at that point (again) or that they can't find some way to stretch it out at all, but I do think waiting until that very last moment at the end for their first kiss would be a little too expected.

Like for example, I could see a first kiss actually being an almost kiss? Similar to #1, but with them getting interrupted or something of that nature. It's interesting that in s4 Mike made a point to close the door behind him when entering Will's room, and we saw how the rest of s4 went with them being focused on very intimately, both alone and with other people, often interrupted. And so I think it's likely Mike is going to either make a real effort to be alone with Will or they're going to be in a situation where it wasn't their choice (ie. all the byler alone together in UD foreshadowing).

But, let's just say in early s5, it gets to a point where Mike is just really really needing a moment alone with Will, bc they haven't been able to actually talk about things properly. And there's this building up of tension between them, where Mike is starting to think Will returns his feelings, and it leads to this moment somehow, but someone knocks on the door and Mike's just like JESUS!!!!!

Them building it up in a unique way, where they're maybe almost kissing once or twice. And then it happens!?!? And then they're all in danger again so the stakes are high and so maybe they're having doubts again, that the other doesn't feel the same? And THEN they fight and things get emotional and real and then they kiss for a second time. It would feel like 2 first kisses essentially.

The reason I think this would really work, is because on Will's end especially (and in some homophobic viewers' minds), Will's going to be telling himself that he's the one that is wrong and if Mike has feelings for him, it's bc he doesn't actually have feelings for him, he's just been corrupted by Will or something. Like I think he would probably notice Mike's nerves in the moments after they kissed, as Mike being uncomfortable/having doubts, and that would cause Will to distance himself and then Mike would do the same as a result of having those same doubts too, as a result of them both misunderstanding each others fear for rejection.

And THEN, after Mike finally confronts Will, his first time being the one who is fighting for their relationship with Will sort of giving up atp (for good reason) we get second kiss, directly following their final boss fight (Reminder: Will successfully packed a blue shirt in his backpack that he brought with to Hawkins...).

I just think that could allow the second kiss to be more tender and give a lot of appreciation and layers to those past fights, now knowing that this is kind of what they've both wanted for a long time? And I think that #3 kiss is what makes it fit perfectly, as it would terrifyingly tie back to the s3 rain fight it inspired

And when it comes to the like official first kiss, I do think it could be them both feeling it in the moment and both clearly being into it, but bc of the high stakes scenarios surrounding them, you just know they would be hit with some crazy ass shit right after and have to deal with that, which would lead to the confusion between them despite them both clearly feeling the same.

This is not me saying this will 100% happen, obviously. This is an ask and I'm just giving detailed answers! Also just in case something along these lines does happen, I want to have it written down somewhere!

I do think them going with like an almost kiss approach followed by a heated first kiss and then a slow second kiss, and then a third endgame kiss would be cool. They wouldn't even need to kiss in the epilogue for me atp.

And that's how I can appease both the action packed byler first kiss truthers and the soft quiet/intimate byler first kiss truthers...

#byler #ask #first kiss #i'm most looking forward to their first hug since s3-4 tbh #like there's going to be so much hiding in plain sight in their body language when they hug again for the first time #especially on Mike's end

[heronpoxed]

I used to think that Tara stayed in Charming only out of love for Jax, but now I think maybe she felt guilt or like she owed him. I was rewatching season one, and after Jax kills Kohn he tells Tara, "not to go anywhere". Then in the season finale he tells her, "you got what you wanted from me, used me to do your dirty work". I think that Tara felt that leaving Charming after Jax essentially saved her was too low of a move. I definitely think that Tara stayed largely because she loved Jax, but I also think that she could have felt obligated to stay after what he did for her. Also, it can be argued that Jax saying, "you got what you wanted from me, used me to do your dirty work", was said to make Tara feel guilty. What are your thoughts?

You're making great points!!

OMG yeah! Jax definitely said all that to make her feel guilty not only about deciding to leave Charming in 1x13 but also about leaving Charming 11 years ago because when Tara decided to go all those years ago it meant leaving not only the town but also him. That's what hurt him the most and even 11 years wasn't enough for him to get over it.

Even though the reason she came back to Charming was her safety, I don't think it was her intention to have Kohn killed. She just wanted him to leave her alone.

But don't forget that it wasn't just Jax who dealt with Kohn. It was Tara too. She didn't need Jax to save her life - she was the one who shot him first in self-defense and wounded him enough to make him immobile and with that her life was no longer in danger at that moment. And Jax only killed Kohn out of his own cold blood. My point is, Tara saved herself.

The reason she decided to leave in 1x13 wasn't because her "dirty work" was done. It was the fact that she got scared of what she was able to do aka being capable of fatally wounding someone and complicit in murder. That's what she wanted to run away from.

Tara was a top-notch surgeon, good enough to have the biggest medical career out there yet she stayed in a community hospital with unfair pay. Once Kohn was no-longer an issue (and I'm not saying that she was hoping that Jax would k!ll him; I think she just wanted him to leave her alone), there was absolutely nothing left that could keep her there - she literally had no friends, no family and no fair-paying job plus she wasn't exactly fond of the club life. So yeah, it was just Jax. and later on Abel.

She stayed because she loved him and I think all the other reasons stemmed from exactly this one. I feel like at first, against her better judgment, she was looking for valid enough reasons to not go and to just stay with him, but overtime it turned into something more complex. I do think that on some level, she felt like she owed him, but most importantly, she believed that leaving Charming without him would mean

having a family that he wouldn't be a part of

betrayal (she says so in s5 finale) - betrayal of the club, the town and him and she literally didn't want to do that. That's why she stayed for so long.

No matter what, despite all the events of season 6, Tara never wanted to be the one who betrayed Jax. Even her initial plan - as twisted as it was - never involved her ratting on him and being the one to turn on her sons' father. She says that numerous times that season, but I digress lol!!

She also does say that even when she's in surgery she has doubts on being there but its never the case when she's with Jax so I believe that guilt and the fear of potentially betraying him wouldn't be there if she didn't love him that much.

#soa #sons of anarchy #tara knowles #jax teller #tara knowles teller #jax x tara #charlie hunnam #maggie siff #tara x jax #jara

[lucassinclaer]

1, 3, 12 for the choose violence ask game?

helloooo thank you so much kal!!

1. the character everyone gets wrong

can't in good conscience say that everyone gets them wrong, but i definitely have some Opinions on lonnie and ted, specifically from season 1, like... ted asking karen if he should go talk to mike after will's "body" is found?? the little tie scene? the simultaneous reflection of any blame bc if he doesn't do anything, how could he be doing anything wrong...

and then lonnie... i'm eating my hat over here! joycelonnie and the fact that she doesn't believe he has anything to do with will's disappearance - that they hold hands on that couch - that he calls her babe still. and then jonathanlonnie and the fact that he does have something to do with will's disappearance. jonathanlonniewill and lonnie's specific idea of masculinity. his talk with jonathan by his car, when he tries to get jonathan to doubt his mom even further and insinuates that hopper is a mess (which, tbf, he is, which makes it even more interesting and realistic, that weaponization of the truth and what people already think.) the charisma of him...

i've seen some great discussion on this and some amazing fanfic portrayals, but i also often see reads on them that i disagree with.

3. screenshot or description of the worst take you’ve seen on tumblr

the worst take is that jonathan will die in s5. not bc it's unrealistic, but bc i firmly object.

the actual worst take is that clerics are boring. i will lose it.

12. the unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them

erica isn't unpopular, it's just that she's paid too little attention, so i will go a different route - hear me out!

number 1: kali prasad. she should have got to meet joyce and nancy. but actual reasons to think about Her: she literally escaped. she's A final girl. she has cool illusion powers. she represents a part of anger as an energy. she's a criminal. literally she's so soft with el and so young but commands that crew. she would love max and max would love her. she escaped, she got out, girl of all time.

number 2: carol perkins. she's terrible, but she's funny. and the fact that tommy actually defended her when steve insulted her is intriguing to me, idk.

choose violence ask game

#thank you soso much!! #emanswers

[aemiron-main]

about the will’s birthday stuff, tbh some of the evidence is way too coincidental that i really don’t believe they just “forgot” but what gets me the most is how some people don’t understand why they’d lie?? like, if they didn’t forget, it’s most likely a huge plot point for s5 and will’s arc. i highly doubt it’ll just be like, a thing that makes the roller rink scenes sadder in retrospect, but rather something that was done intentionally by an outside force, if you know what i mean…

like, vecna literally has time manipulation powers and people won’t consider that maybe having something to do with it??? i also see some people saying that joyce and jonathan would never forget will’s bday, which is fair, but also gives me reason to believe that if they did forget, it was almost definitely out of their control. like idk about you but vecna is totally the kind of guy to make everyone will loves forget his birthday so he can get him with a “they don’t care about you, but i do” speech later on…

does this make any sense or am i crazy lol

IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE ANON!!! I 1000% agree, the duffers would absolutely lie about it, and if they’re lying about it (they are), then it’s a larger plot point than just making the roller rink scene even sadder.

AND EXACTLY YES EVERYTHING ABOUT VECNA, Y E S!! I think it was either out of their control, OR circumstances just happened to align (joyce being preoccupied w hopper being alive, Jonathan being stone out of his mind 24/7), but it’s still going to tie to vecna somehow.

#stranger things #birthdaygate

[thestobingirlie]

Yes big brain to your Stancy post. If Steve was the one who acted like Nancy people would constantly bring it up regardless of how much time passed. They wouldn't even doubt him cheating like they do with Nancy.

See I didn't like Stancy and I was rooting for Jancy but the way it happened made me absolutely sick. I couldn't even enjoy them getting together because it was literally cheating and nobody really acknowledges in the show and even in the fandom a huge part still denies it. They blame Steve for Nancy's behavior, because of s1 Steve but they fail to realize that one year has passed and he isn't the same person in the beginning of s2 than in s1. And then they blame him for not being supportive enough, even though he goes to the dinners with the Hollands. They bring up the library talk as evidence how unsupportive he is while failing to realize he tries to protect Nancy from herself. She wants to go after the government you know the people who killed Benny for simply helping Eleven and are known for watching over them, he is terrified something will happen to her and their families if Nancy acted on that. Him trying to distract her isn't him being a shitty boyfriend, people tend to forget Barb died in HIS pool it's probably a coping mechanism to simply try to live a normal life.

The only shitty thing he did in s2 is leaving her alone at the party after she told him he was bullshit, he should have made sure she is okay regardless but that's it.

Nancy on the other hand pretended to love him for a year, she admitted to emotionally cheating while talking to Jonathan, she said to him she waited for him to make a move and then got mad when he brought up Steve you know her actual boyfriend. I swear if Steve would have said that to another girl while dating Nancy people would have lost their minds.

And she never apologized for it either she let Steve know till this day he was the major reason why things ended. I mean Nancy always has problems with accountability, the way she treats people in the show is sometimes gross and I'm sick that the show overlooks her flaws and paints her as perfect. And I'm also sick for being called a misogynist for pointing out that Steve didn't deserve Nancy's treatment or in general for calling out her flaws.

Steve probably doesn't even love Nancy, he loves the romanticized version she played for a year with him. Why else would he try to win her back with his dream, which is her nightmare. I hope he realizes in s5 he deserves someone who actually loves him and shares the same dreams with him.

anon, i am in love you. you get me in a way no one else ever will

people like to pretend that nancy didn’t cheat, but she did. nancy was very adamant in murray’s basement that she loved steve, and they were together. and that night she slept with jonathan.

i never cared much for either stancy or jancy, i don’t really care about ships in the show, like i can just read fics, you know? but s2 very much put me off canon jancy. the choice to have nancy lust after jonathan the entire time she was dating steve is fucked, and uncomfortable. it’s like some weird nerd fantasy, that the girl dating the popular jock actually wants the nerdy loner.

and it’s so weird how people act like s1 steve and s2 steve are the same person!! it’s been a year! and with steve’s behaviour in s1, nancy willingly chose to get back together with him, knowing that he had aided his friends in slut shaming her, so her behaviour in s2 can’t be explained by saying steve was an arse in s1 because she chose to still date him.

and the way people talk down steve’s trauma in s2 drives me insane! like steve is scared the government will come after them and their families if they tell anyone. nancy never explained her little plan to get proof and anonymously share it, she just said she wanted to tell barb’s parents the truth, which sounds like a fun way to get killed.

and with leaving her at the party, i’m not even sure he does! we see him pop outside to cry, and jonathan looking back at him, and the next day jonathan knows exactly what the argument was, and what nancy said, and says that steve told him to take nancy home. and jonathan doesn’t seem the type to lie to make steve look better! so i honestly believe him.

that scene in the hotel is literally insane, and people use it for cute jancy edits?? it’s nancy admitting she’s wanted jonathan for the entirety of her relationship, and then getting pissed when jonathan says “what about your boyfriend”. what about that screams healthy relationship? and the way they get together is insane too. what shared trauma do jonathan and nancy have that steve doesn’t also have? and trauma is not a good basis for a relationship, whenever we see jonathan and nancy outside of end of the world events, they don’t even seem to like each other much? she literally calls him oliver twist.

nancy honestly treats every single person in the show like shit, and you can say it’s because of trauma, but she treated barb like shit too, so i think at some point we’re just gonna have to accept that that is the way nancy is. she likes people when they’re useful to her, and if they aren’t, she’s snide and kind of cruel. (nancy changing this about herself could actually be a really cool character arc, but the show will never admit that nancy is anything but perfect, so we’ll never get it)

and yeah, it’s insane that steve still thinks he’s to blame a year and a half later when she literally cheated on him. like steve was as supportive as he could be, what do people expect him to have done? say, yeah we absolutely should reveal government secrets and probably get killed? he was trying to help nancy in the only way he knew how.

and with nancys dream, she’s never told steve about it. we see her say to jonathan that she doesn’t want to end up like her parents, but she never has that convo with steve. probably because he was just a placeholder for her until she could get jonathan, so why get attached?

honestly, i don’t hate nancy, i think she’s a really cool character (or could be if she wasn’t written by men), but the way people girlboss-ify her behaviour, and the way she treats other people is just horrible. and the more people excuse her actions, the more i dislike her. and i don’t hate stancy or jancy either. there are some fics of the relationships that i love, i just think in canon they’re honestly horrific, and the love triangle never should’ve been brought back in s4.

#also. sorry it took so long to answer this #stranger things #steve harrington #nancy wheeler #jonathan byers #anti stancy #anti jancy #asks #anon

[violet-heaven]

Okay folks, let’s talk rarepairs. The House M.D fandom, much like any other fandom, managed to get me thinking about ships other than canon ships. And my mind immediately jumped to ships that haven’t even met, as you do. Now, I doubt any of you are strangers to rarepairs. Certain ships have no canonical basis behind them but they’re cute and would be fun to think of!

One of my favourite ships that this fandom came up with is none other than Chase x Lucas — aka one of House’s Ducklings with the private detective he hired who inadvertently became his personal therapist to listen to him pining about Wilson. You’re probably thinking, “what the hell?? This has no canonical basis or reason to be shipped” and you’d be right.

BUT! I’m here to convince you. Or at least, coax you towards the idea that this is a ship that could work!

FACTS AND THEORY

Let's start with the facts. Chase and Lucas have only one canonical connection, that being House. Chase used to work with him but during season 5, he was no longer part of the regular team. Despite that, he had connections with House and also still worked at PPTH! Lucas on the other hand was hired by House to figure out information for him that House couldn't obtain (legally) and after some point, Lucas began to investigate Wilson to as per House's request.

Coming to the more theoretical aspects: Remember, the first time that House's team met Lucas was when he worked as a 'coffee machine repairman' in 5x02, Not Cancer.

Taub: He's a genius coffee repairman.

Kutner: Coffee repairman wears argyle socks? [Taub looks]

Lucas: I thought I already talked about not judging.

House: What kind of idiot wears argyle socks with construction boots?

Lucas: Uh, I'm not an idiot. I'm just… I'm not good at disguises.

Foreman: Who is he?

House: He's apparently a very bad private investigator.

This establishes that Lucas has been in PPTH more than once and as a private investigator, he's also probably gotten a lay of the land, knowing where everything is. And he also probably knows about House's teams. Which means that he knows who Chase, Foreman and Cameron are.

It's not too far of a leap to assume that he's done some investigating on his own -- or maybe House put him up to it, who knows? -- and met one or all of the original Ducklings. Going by this logic, Lucas could have met Chase in the hospital since as mentioned earlier, Chase still has a job at PPTH. My personal theory that they could have met during the same time as the s5 team meets Lucas as a coffee machine repairman.

Obviously, Chase has no idea who he is and assumes that he's been hired by the hospital, just like everyone else did. Lucas plays along to not get caught but there's no way he wouldn't at least have a brief idea of who Chase is in relation to House. His job as a PI has him investigate his employers, which includes House.

Right, so we've talked about a possible scenario where they could meet. How would their meeting go?

Well, I think Chase would figure out who Lucas was soon enough because as Lucas himself says, "I can lie. I'm just not all that good at it." Considering the fact that he wears argyle socks, he's a pretty obvious target to pick out in a crowd.

And I think their relationship would start out rocky. Chase wouldn't appreciate people investigating him or his friends despite investigation literally being Lucas' job and despite knowing that House would most definitely pull a stunt like this. Lucas wouldn't have the heart to lie to him further, but he's also not great with his emotions so he wouldn't be able to convey what he wanted to say properly (been there done that, Lucas).

Eventually, Chase would see him around the hospital and near his home, which would prompt a more forceful confrontation but the two of them would become friends... It'd just take a while.

HEADCANON ASPECTS

Alright, now we're entering headcanon territory. As someone who ships them, you can bet that I have a bunch of headcanons that align with my perception of the show and these characters. So keep in mind that these are not what you'll see on House M.D and that it's my headcanons (as well as a few of my amazing mutuals) !

First I want to establish a relationship between both Chase and House as well as House and Lucas because House is their connecting point, the only commonality in the show.

House and Chase have a very strong father-son relationship. I've always loved the idea that House assumes the role of Chase's dad, especially after meeting his real dad. So Chase is essentially his son, and the rest of the Ducklings are also his kids. Found Family supremacy

House and Lucas are good friends. Of course, Wilson is House's best friend but Lucas noticed how much House cared about Wilson and how badly he wanted Wilson back before even going to investigate Wilson ("You want to find out he's pining."). I love Lucas, and to give him a more prominent role on the show, I'm essentially strengthening his relationship with a lot of the characters, including House.

This line from 5x02: "She's not your type. Your type is much stupider than her." House says it to Lucas and it makes me laugh because I think he'd say that about Chase too.

For the sake of all of you reading this post, I'm going to end it here but expect more posts detailing this ship and a lot more headcanons! I'm also planning a fic to explain my version of their meeting and I'd love for people to start taking notice of this ship. Thanks for reading!

#house md #robert chase #lucas douglas #chase x lucas #gregory house #man this post got long #i've got a lot more to say about this ship though #folks we're at the tip of the iceberg #enjoy my descent into rarepair hell madness and don't forget to grab a bucket of popcorn on the way

[izukusjoyfriend]

Deku and Bakugou analysis,a bit of a KatsuDeku theroy post.

Warning!!! This thread is very long and has suggestice themes. Please proceed with caution.

"After that, he lit a fire under me like that"

That's way to sus.

One thing I've noticed too,Deku refers and reacts to Bakugou differently than big heros,even ones that he strongly admires,like,really admires,like all might.

Which makes me thinks..Is all the romantic-like shit done on purpose?

Stuff like this:

That first line translates into: The burning longing in my chest will not disappear.

Second line:I want it to change

He said he daydreams about him and Katsuki in some opening I don't remember.

Stars are VERY prominent with them to,after when Deku said that sus line,he looks up at a star,and saids,he wants it to change,ya know,there is also another song about Katsuki and Deku,Its Polaris. It being about Deku and Katsuki,makes a lot of sense.

Heres why;

"If I could go back and give up everything I had,I would never hide my scars for anything. No not for no one"

When Katsuki bullied Deku,he was scar-ed.

It makes sense. He regrets what he did to Deku. Hes trying to Atone. He absolutely hates what he did to Midoriya,and The line saying,"No,not for no one". It makes sense!

Katsuki hid his scars and tried to act like a big and tough boy,which in reality..

He was the weak one. That's canon,that was touched apond in the manga

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"Say goodbye ,I don't have the strength to let it all end,I would give all and everything if we could mend,All I wanted was you to stay and not disappear,I've decided I will follow my heart,Promise yours will always be right near me.."

Makes a lot of sense. Let me explain,The "Say goodbye" line is a play on deku leaving U.A,and after that..Bakugou saids this,

"I don't have the strength to let it all end!"

Which is..f***ing heart breaking.. Alright let me bring this up,

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Yes, Izuku's exhaustion and pain is the primary focus, but those tiny details imply that Katsuki Bakugou, the guy who has had a strict bedtime and diet his whole life, who puts every bit of effort into his own health, has completely disregarded his self-care to go after Izuku. Which also implies that his body didn't just move on its own when he risked his life for Izuku. It's further evidence that he isn't just trying to atone for his own sake. This guy straight up stopped taking care of himself because he was WORRIED for Izuku. He stopped sleeping in favor of searching. He reaggravated a very serious injury (one that he got already protecting Izuku) in order to protect him AGAIN.

Which..Makes sense... It shows more of a..Softer caring side of Bakugou. It explains it itself.

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"I would give all and everything if we could mend,All I wanted was you to stay and not disappear,I've decided I will follow my heart,Promise yours will always be right near me.."

Wow. If this is Katsuki..Its makes a lot of sense.. He would give..A lot for him and dekus friendship to be better again. That's why he did the training with him.

He would do anything to make the connection with him and deku because..He,wants to mend with Midoriya. Repair the friendship..

But what is really interesting and important is,that,He said "I've decided I will follow my heart,promise yours will also be right near me!" Which means,it wasn't just not his mortal compass..It was also where his,Heart was leading him too..

Which means,Bakugou doesn't just want to mend things for sake of mortality and heroism,but also,it's because..He feels that he should. And I would say he feeling like he should do this because he feels bad for deku,BUT,he said he wants deku heart to stay near his..which means:

"Close to your heart" is an English idiom describing something or someone dearly loved. It can be used to describe anything that has earned a great deal of affection from a person, often through familiarity with it over time. The meaning of this phrase comes from the fact that the heart is considered the organ of the human body that is the source of all love and affection. As such, anyone or anything that resides close to it will be on the receiving end of those feelings."

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OHHHHHH----- KATSUKI---

It could be platonic-- but...he wants..There..Hearts to be close?? That's oddly specify..He could just say he want them to be close..The thing is,he didn't even have too say anything about hearts..Hearts are symbolized as,a love thing.

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You're probably asking "Why does this matter???" Well..Ummm..Look at the background. There bubbles,the trope which is used is called love bubbles.

A romantic moment in anime is often accompanied by a pastel background with lots of bubbles. Nobody knows who wanders into all these series with an invisible bubble machine, but maybe they should stop before they get soap in somebody's eye...

Is..Is he blushing..? That explains the bubble and sparkles..

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HuH..???? HOW-

Look I don't know what to tell you.

But if that's not romantic,then I don't know what it is.

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Peace sign is confirmed to be a bakugou and deku song. He calls this story,MY HERO ACADEMIA,"OUR STORY"...huh..Remember the song "Datte atashi no Hero?" He also called bakugou his hero. Let that sink in.

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Remember shout baby...? Heres more crap to make Bakudeku romantic.

Let's go over that one line again..

Can't sugar code it. Nope. That's romantic in nature. Unless deku has fucking heart problems,this is romantic. No doubt on my end.

Heres something that just plain romantic.

"It’s frustrating that this unusual scent of hair made my heart flutter. So I hid my lips that’s forming a smile under my scarf.."

Wow... This sounds like Bakugou.

Let me explain why it does sounds like Bakugou. Frustration. About something small as that seems like him. It sounds like him too. And also,Bakugou rarely smiles.. I wonder what they where doing which made his heart flutter.

And why it's romantic..? Hear the way that's worded. The person hide the lips after their heart flutters.

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Alright let's go here. This is a song that supposedly between Bakugou and Deku.

Let's see it here,

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And the kanji used for this song is not helping.

They use the words like "Suki" Suki is only plantoic when revfiring to non humans. Deku uses it to Katsuki at the end of the song in another translation like this,

Suki da suki da suki da suki da

Context clue:

Suki da,

好すだよ。

Suki da yo.

I like you.

This phrase is commonly used in everyday life. It reveals to the interlocutor that you have feelings for him. It is up to him to interpret the strength of your love.

To avoid misunderstandings, do not tell people with whom you have friendly relations. I already imagine your Japanese friends feeling uncomfortable because they think you are trying to get out of the friend-zone. 

Kimi ga daisuki da yo.

大だい好すだ。

Daisuki da.

I really like you.

Daisuki implies that you are a big fan of something when you talk about an object, food or a sports team. This is also the case when you talk about an artist, an athlete or some other famous personality.

But when you say that to someone, it implies that you have strong feelings for that person. These feelings must be beyond normal friendship.

........

*Sigh*

Here's more of the song

"Update! I want to fly, to fly, just to fly so far away, away from here. It can’t be anybody else, I don’t want anybody else. Because I don’t want to regret, I’ve got to say it now,I love, I love, I love, I love,I love being here with you."

The more I read into it. The more the song sounds like Katsuki. And it make sense if somewhat of update is sang by Katsuki.

Think about it. The song said this,

"It's not what you do,or what you say,it who you're with."

And if you think about,someone of these song lyrics sound like Katsuki himself.

This song is blunt. Blunter,then fuck,and you know who's blunt..?

Katsuki.

I'm not saying he sang all of it.. No. Update actually in the outro points about Deku and makes him the main focus. But,these lines make more sense for Bakugou then Deku,

"If you are, you are, you are, you are,If you are with me,Not back, not down, but the reason I was able to see the front only was,You were here"

Those lines make more sense for s5 bakugou and up,then s3 deku. Let me explain why. "The only reason I was able to see the front is because you where here" remember the apology..? If you don't it's chapter 322

Also for a second,let pay attention to this

It can’t be anybody else, I don’t want anybody else.

That's literally at least saying that Katsuki is VERY special to deku. And the context for this is that,who he'd run away with. It's basically saying he'd spend his life with Katsuki away from everybody else..and he would be..Fine..?

That really saying something about his favoritism to Katsuki-

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SEE WHATS WRONG...? If ya don't then,here;

It's really just explains itself,Katsuki and Deku are the only ones here.

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[heartslobbf]

let’s talk about perfuma. imo, she’s one of the best characters in the show despite being underdeveloped, and i wanna explain why. she could’ve been extremely average, just some lanky flower girl that doesn’t believe in violence and loves everyone, but she is so much more than that (and it pisses me off that y’all reduce her to that).

in her introductory episode, perfuma is clearly in denial about the horde almost destroying plumeria. she doesn’t want to acknowledge the problem, wants someone else to take care of it for her. she’s scared of change, and that is because change makes you vulnerable. if things always stay the same, there’s a whole lot less danger and uncertainty, and therefore you’re safe. secure. perfuma’s kingdom is dying and she can’t bear to accept it because it is unknown to her. it’s putting her in a position where she is no longer secure. this fear of vulnerability can also be seen at the beginning of 1x10 when the princess alliance falls apart and she literally says ‘being together makes us vulnerable.’

the thing is, perfuma isn’t wrong. look at her choice of words. she says that being together makes them vulnerable, not weak. here, she kind of has the words mixed up, but we see that by s5 she has come to understand the difference. that’s what’s so great about perfuma, her motivation to do better, her hunger for self-improvement. it’s why she’s such an important part of catra’s redemption, actually, because she embodies the kind person catra is or wants to be.

let me explain: perfuma is an angry, impatient, short-tempered character. we are shown this again and again with her passive aggression to others and how easily mermista can annoy her with trivial things (sitting in her seat in the war room, for example). catra is also an angry, impatient character, but perfuma works every day to manage those emotions. she knows she needs them, she uses them as a tool (calling catra out, for example, is a time they were practically pivotal for getting her point across) but she also acknowledges they can hurt the people she loves. we know she does a meditation ritual each morning and we see in 4x02 how quickly she can unravel without it. she wants to be better. she puts the work in. that is such a valuable lesson for a character like catra who has always felt she’s just not good enough, she’s always going to be this angry and unlovable and no one can do anything about it.

so, 4x02. it’s a brilliant episode for perfuma’s character, really, and the first proper development we’ve had since 1x04. we see her anger, her impatience, but we also see her self-doubt. her belief that she’s inadequate, ‘just a flower girl.’ this is also when we get introduced to her little mantra that becomes a bit of a motif later on, ‘i can do this.’ we know perfuma doesn’t wholeheartedly believe this, but she says it anyway because she wants to. perfuma wants to be better. she will do whatever she can to be her best self, whether that be actually conquering her gripes with cacti or realising there’s a loophole with the roots (love that conflict resolution by the way, another good deconstruction of hero bs by spop).

this episode is also significant because it comes back to perfuma’s fear of change, of vulnerability. she’s thrown into a situation she doesn’t want to be in, one she feels miserably unprepared for, and she hasn’t done the one thing that puts her at her best beforehand, but she pulls through in the end because she is surrounded by people that support her, that listened to her and consoled her when she was vulnerable. 4x02 teaches perfuma the power of self-worth and the power of true, mutual, unconditional love, which can only come with vulnerability.

and this is where her character gets really interesting, in my humble opinion. ngl, one of the reasons i love perfuma so much is because she’s a pisces and i am too. i’m not gonna go astrology hoe on you rn, i’m just using this to demonstrate the part of her character that teaches others. pisces, if you don’t know, love to play therapist. we like to help the people around us with whatever strifes they may have because we think we’re fucking great at it. perfuma actually is.

you know how i said perfuma learns the importance of self-belief and vulnerability? yeah, she teaches both of those lessons to other characters in s5. like i said, perfuma is a character who values self-betterment and also happens to be a pisces, so when she sees scorpia, riddled with so much self-doubt and such low self-esteem, her immediate response is just i’m gonna teach that bitch how to love herself. and she does!

i’ve seen some people say they don’t like scorfuma because it seemed as though the writers just decided to ‘fix’ all of scorpia’s problems by giving her a girlfriend. that’s very dumb, first of all because they aren’t even together by the end of the show, they’re just interested in one another. second, the whole point of she-ra is that we’re stronger together. scorpia doesn’t go through growth in s5 because a girl likes her, she goes through growth because someone is showing her support and love for the first time in her life and that empowers her. you know, the worth that scorpia finds in herself doesn’t hinge on perfuma, like it did with catra. it’s about her as an individual, and perfuma so clearly makes it about that when her big lesson revolves around singing. scorpia loves singing. perfuma tells her she should do it because she enjoys it, a sentiment you’d never hear in the horde, and when scorpia does sing, she is actively rejecting the people who did make all her self-worth hinge on them catra. she’s doing something for herself, because she enjoys it, because it makes her happy, because she can.

it’s that same mantra: i can do this, i can do this. i really love how this was brought back from 4x02, how perfuma repurposed something that taught her such a valuable lesson for someone else. perfuma and scorpia are great foil characters actually, both constantly underestimated and thought of as weak by their groups, but some of the strongest characters in the show due to their deep value of love and self. i can do this, and i know i can because you believe in me, because i believe in myself. it’s brought back again in 5x10, when the last thing perfuma says before scorpia breaks the beam is ‘i know you can [pull through]’. she tells catra she believes in scorpia. it’s that belief, that support from other people that empowers the self to believe it too. we are stronger together, you know??

anyways, onto vulnerability. return to the fright zone is in my top ten episodes of the whole fucking show and you might think that’s a bit weird but i don’t. 5x10 encompasses so many important themes of spop so well and tells them with scorfuma and spinnetossa, our two side lesbian couples. this is significant since perfuma literally draws a parallel between her and catra at the end of the episode, and catradora and spinnetossa have always been significant to one another. i’m gonna say it, perfuma is the reason catra is finally able to confess to adora in 5x13. i’ve already talked about how important perfuma is to catra’s motivation to improve, but she literally makes catra rethink everything about strength and vulnerability, two words catra has a lot of feelings about.

catra fears vulnerability. we know this. she has such a deep love for those important to her but is never able to articulate it because she worries she’ll be taken advantage of, shot down, laughed at, whatever. all of this stems from the abuse she suffered at shadow weaver’s hands and her attachment issues, and it’s also why catra pretends to hate scorpia’s very open displays of affection and love: she sees it as weak because she has been taught to, but it’s all she ever really wanted to be.

we also know perfuma used to fear vulnerability. she doesn’t any more. the entirety of the episode leading up to her and catra’s heart-to-heart is her being vulnerable, putting herself in a position where she’s in danger but believing it’s worth it. and it is. despite what everyone said to her, perfuma is right: it was worth it. she got through to scorpia, even if it was only for a moment. she literally spells it out to us and catra with one of the best lines in the whole show: it’s hard, keeping your heart open. it makes you vulnerable, but it doesn’t make you weak, and i have to believe it’s worth it.

back in 1x10, perfuma was right: being together makes you vulnerable. horde prime tries to use people’s relationships against them, that’s literally the plot of save the cat, the point of pitting catra and adora against one another. he sees them as weak, just like shadow weaver deems adora’s feelings for catra ‘confusing’, just like light hope insisted adora was a danger to her friends as long as she was around them. they were all wrong. yes, they’re vulnerable. perfuma acknowledges that vulnerability puts you in danger, that it’s difficult to do that, but she knows it doesn’t make you weak. weakness vs strength is a big conflict in 5x10 literally introduced to us with netossa’s theories on everyone’s weaknesses in the first few minutes.

like perfuma says, friendship isn’t a weakness. it’s her greatest strength. her belief in love is literally what saves her and adora’s lives, it’s what saves everyone who got chipped, glimmer, bow. belief in love, both of others and yourself, is what saves adora in her dying moments. perfuma summarises she-ra’s entire fucking message to us repeatedly in 5x10 and she tells it to catra because catra is the one who will do the most with it. that glance at adora, it’s obvious what it means. perfuma is telling catra she should be open with adora about her feelings because you have to believe it’s worth it.

you won’t get anywhere waiting for other people to make the move. she-ra couldn’t heal plumeria’s lands, so plumeria had to fight their own battle alongside her no matter how much they felt unable to. the rebellion couldn’t move mara’s ship, so perfuma had to despite thinking she wasn’t strong enough. the reason they always win in the end is because they have each other, they have love and support and people motivating them to do better. just like perfuma motivates herself to do better.

it’s the mantra. i can do this. i can be vulnerable and still win, because i have love. and it’s hard, it’s so fucking hard to be vulnerable when you’ve feared it all your life and you’re so angry, so hurt, but you have to believe it’s worth it. and it is. it is, it is, it is, love is stronger than anything and being vulnerable for the people you love is the only way you can ever get what you want from them. perfuma as a character embodies that, having learnt it herself, and teaches the lesson to one of the characters who needs it the most.

adora is dying, and catra loves her, and she knows she does, and she just has to believe. adora is dying, and she loves catra, and she knows she does, but she doesn’t believe. not until catra teaches her too, in that moment, to realise they were all wrong, light hope, shadow weaver, horde prime. adora doesn’t need to let go, she needs to hold on and believe she will be pulled back up by the girl she loves. she needs to believe she deserves it. that it’s worth it.

and it is.

#ANYWAYS I FUCKING LOVE PERFUMA THANK U QUEEN FOR BEING THE BEST SIDE CHARACTER #sjdjeksmnf sorry this is long i tried to keep it short #I HAVE SO MUCB TO SAY ABT HER #shut up daisy #spop #perfuma #scorfuma #catra #scorpia #catradora #adora #spop meta

[criminalmutantsins]

Top 10 Favorite Young Justice Characters

10. Jaime Reyes/Blue Beetle

Starting off the list is Blue Beetle. Young Justice introduced me to him, and I was hooked. He’s probably the most mellow and calming voice. His arc and relationship with Bart (friendship or not) were my favorite aspects of S2. They bounced off each other in every scene. I was very disappointed when Jaime and Bart were sidelined so much, and hope S4 changes this (particularly with Bart).

Jaime in the number 10 spot since he doesn’t really have much of a memorable personality. Still love him to bits though.

        9. Will Harper/Red Arrow

Funny enough, I did not like Will. He was an asshole in S1; S2 kind of changed my mind about him but not enough since he didn’t appear as much. What really changed my mind was the episode “Private Security” (S3 Ep.4). I started looking back into Will’s storylines and, I have to admit, his is probably one of the best character development.

The first season had him unwillingly living a lie and betraying the people he cared for. In season 2 he was so consumed into finding the original Roy for five years, not even caring or focusing about his own life. I felt really bad for Will because he was probably going through an identity crisis and thought he couldn’t live his life without finding Arsenal. Probably felt guilty.

Seeing him living his own life and being happy with his daughter was so heartwarming. I smiled every time Will appeared in the latest season (totally ignoring the Will x Artemis fiasco), especially with Lian. I’m very proud of him.

I feel bad for putting him so low, yet I adore the next characters more.

 8. Garfield Logan/Beast Boy

I have been a massive Beast Boy fan since Teen Titans so you probably can imagine how excited to see him. His origin story was unique and his brother-sister bond with M’gann was very sweet. It was pretty weird seeing how much younger Gar was than Dick, but I got used to it. I was bummed that Gar wasn’t in S2 as much; however, S3 truly made up for it. 

After watching Beast Boy being a great leader in S5 of Teen Titans, I wanted a leader-like and more mature version of him. Young Justice truly delivered with Gar being the leader of the Outsiders. It’s nice to see him treated with respect rather than as a joke because that was my biggest gripe with Teen Titans. Though it was weird seeing him not crack a joke at all.

Gar’s story with his mom was heartbreaking to see. I literally cried seeing his reaction to revisiting his trauma in S2 and S3; I just wanted to hug and tell him how awesome he is. My only complaint with Gar in S3 was that the Outsiders weren’t established until near the end of the season.

His voice actor being Greg Cipes also gives him extra points (He’s a chill guy and radiates BB energy).

 7. Dick Grayson/Nightwing/ Robin I 

Sorry to all the hardcore Nightwing fans.

I love Dick (don’t get any ideas), but he doesn’t get enough development in the spotlight. One of the things I really wanted to see from him is his growth as a main leader, and his journey to becoming Nightwing. I was really bummed when these happened between the first two seasons.

To be honest, I don’t have as much to say about him other than straightforward qualities I enjoy about him.

1.His Voice (it’s so soothing)

2.His Personality (very charismatic)

3.Very Handsome (Probably in the top 3 my most handsome YJ Men list)

I put him higher than the others since he made a lot of contribution to the story and his new words (gotta love that aster!)

6. Megan Morse/M’gann M’orzz/Miss Martian 

If I made this list during S1, M’gann would have probably been in my top 3 (maybe even No. 1), but S2 didn’t give her any brownie points.

I really liked S1 Miss Martian because of her kind heart, awkward girl next door personality. Her trouble fitting in the beginning reminded me of when I was going through a time in high school; seeing her having trouble as well helped me feel not so lonely. M’gann powers were (still are) my favorite since I am a big fan of mind-like powers. I would feel so powerful. Watching her identity crisis(?) arc was great too. I’ve had trouble feeling comfortable in my own skin as well as my social anxiety (I’m a mess) and I could understand how scared Megan was of her friends’ thoughts on her true form. 

Oh boy. Season 2 basically ruined her. Learning what she would do to enemies was terrifying to see and left me wondering what happened to Miss Martian that made her step this far. What she almost did to Superboy was almost unforgivable. You do not try to manipulate with your boyfriend’s mind when you guys have an argument! Shame on you M’gann. If Superboy hadn’t forgiven you then I wouldn’t have either.

Good thing S3 somewhat redeemed her. Her kind heart was noticeable again and she refused to do that mind trick again (thank god). Very excited for the Superboy and Miss Martian wedding! Please creators, I beg of you to not skip over it. I want to cry my eyes out in happiness!

 5. Kaldur’ahm/Aquaman/Aqualad 

Now we’re in the top 5 with Aqualad (*ahem* Aquaman) starting it off.

Creating Kaldur was the best decision the creators ever did. I love him with all my heart!

He added diversity to the original team and was a great leader. S1 was not his breakout season, though the second season definitely was.

Kladur played the villain so well that he deserves an automatic Oscar. I never doubted that he was with the heroes, but he didn’t disappoint. My favorite part about Aqualad’s performance was when he rose from the ocean slowly like a cliché villain (he made it work), and the line he said right after he “killed” Artemis; it sent me chills. Love it! 

Pretty disappointed that he didn’t appear as much in S3. Very happy that he is a part of the LGBTQ+ community and is in a happy relationship. I’m a part of the community and loved that there was finally some representation in one of my favorite shows. Even so, I have to criticize how rushed and sidelined it was. I hope Kaldur and Wyynde’s relationship gets development.

 4. Kon-El/Conner Kent/Superboy

Like Will, I did not like Superboy at first. Mainly angry and volatile characters were never really my cup of tea. I do understand why he was upset and felt bad for him; I just handle anger the direct opposite as him. My love for Conner started growing around the end of S1. He was very sweet towards Miss Martian (bless him for not caring about her appearance) and his anger was in control.

Season 2 pretty much switched my opinions on him and M’gann. It was awful what M’gann almost did to him. That scene with him being so sad that what she did ruined that special bond they had almost made me cry. I wanted to give him a hug. He grew so much too since I don’t think he would have handled the whole M’gann drama as well in S1. A lot of furniture would’ve been broken.

I gotta admit something. I almost put Conner near the bottom (maybe no. 7). A comment in a poll in Amino changed my mind. I wrote a poll asking other fans who did they prefer SB or MM. At that point I said SB, though I didn’t think much of it. Someone (specifically yjfangirl) responded “Superboy has the best development in the show.” This had me thinking about how far SB has gone. In the beginning, Conner was an angry guy who felt alone and rejected by the person who he was meant to emulate. Now he is happier and living for himself rather than to be the next Superman. He’s getting married people! A little detail I noticed when rewatching S3 was Superboy mentioning to new characters that they weren’t obligated to be a hero because of their abilities. I adored this! The main reason why Superboy was created to be Superman if the original ever died, and another one of Luthor’s puppets. But he strayed from that pressuring path and is doing his own thing. Conner doesn’t want other people to feel like he did. What an absolute pure soul.

Also, yjfangirl, first I want to say Hi (*waves*)! Then say thanks for writing that comment. It made me really think about the bigger picture with SB and my love for him as grown exponentially. You probably didn’t mean to do that, but I still want to thank you. 😊

 3.Wally West/Kid Flash

We’re in the elites now.

I don’t know how to explain it, I just love Wally. He makes me laugh, and his character growth was great. At first, Wally was this cocky flirt who didn’t take the hero work as seriously. That changed in “Cold-hearted,” one of my favorite episodes in the series. This was when I really started seeing more of Wally than being this dumb flirt. It was great seeing him actually caring about helping people since I believed for a long time that he wanted to be a superhero to just have powers rather than actually protect others. The regret in his eyes when he thought his impulsive behavior killed Perdita helped me see who he really was- this somewhat arrogant speedster who had a kind heart. Episodes that can make me change my perspective on characters are truly special.

I was very upset that he wasn’t in S2 a lot. I understand why since he gave up the life, but I was still bummed. Seeing him being so loving and protective towards Artemis was amazing. Spitfire is my favorite ship and I will not give up on them. All I want is a happy ending! The penultimate episode of S3 was a hint that it will happen. Watching the S2 finale was heartbreaking, I cried watching him disappear, his love for Artemis being the last things he said. Artemis’ reaction did not(I just wanted to hug her). 

I have more to say, though I’m leaving it for another post. 😉

 2.Bart Allen/Kid Flash II/Impulse

Picking between Bart and Wally for second place was tough. Took me a while to decide; I’ll talk about it later on.

The moment Bart made his appearance, I absolutely adored him. He is amazing and I live for his hyper, fun attitude. His arc and relationship with Jaime were my favorite aspects of S2. What can I say, their chemistry is great to see.

That scene when he was meeting the Flash family was so adorable. His excitement was infectious and spoiling his dad and aunt’s births was hilarious! I watch it occasionally whenever I need a good laugh or reason to smile.

Unlike most time travelers- at least the ones I’ve seen- Bart was very involved with what was going on and befriended his biggest enemy- evil and weirdly huge future Blue Beetle. He was pretty careful about disclosing very important information and took things very seriously. You never know if disclosing everything was the thing that brought the world to chaos.

What I found interesting was his choice on how to interact with everyone. He seemed pretty gloomy in the future, but decided to portray this cheerful, devil-may-care attitude to be more likable. I understood (still kind of do). I had terrible mental health issues and I pretended to be happy in front of loved ones because I thought they wouldn’t care about me anymore. Bart got some brownie points for that.

I was dissatisfied when his role was greatly reduced. I wanted the creators to go further with Bart by revealing his past and how it affected him. He was pretty much comedy relief. You couldn’t imagine how disappointed I was, especially with it involving my second favorite character. Season 4 better change that.

I know that you shouldn’t assume a character’s sexuality, yet I really hope Bart is gay. There needs to be more clear representation and Bart can be one of them. I’m also a Bluepulse and Bartuado shipper (fine with either one as long as Bart’s bond with each of them stays strong).

Anyway, I mentioned that I would explain why I chose Bart for 2nd place over Wally. It mostly stems from wishful thinking. I really want S4 to have Bart as a main character since I believe the future will be strong plot point in the season. Development could surely happen such as Bart opening up more about what he went through. Let all those feelings go.

I’m going to write an article on my hopes for S4 when a release date is announced. Bart and Wally will most definitely be talked about.

 …..

We are finally near the end!

And my No. 1 favorite character is…

Drumroll please!

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1.Artemis Crock/Tigress/Artemis

That’s right people!

Artemis Crock, original member of the Team and daughter of villains!

She is such an inspiration to anyone who wants to go their own past without their parents’ support.

It’s hard to describe how much I love Artemis. She’s brave, strong-willed, and a kind person. It’s crazy how great of a person she is after all the terrible things that happened to her. I look up to her because I don’t have a healthy relationship with my parents (verbal and mental abuse) and there are times I don’t feel strong enough to stand on my own. I want to carry the amount of strength Artemis has as my own.

After all that happened in S2, it was amazing to see Artemis come back to the team and train the new generation. It must have been hard to walk away from a safe, comfortable life for a chaotic, dangerous life. I admire that in everyone, but I hold more respect for Artemis since “the life” “killed” Wally. I wanted to hug her so bad.

She’s also one of the kindest people in the show, the events in S3 being the best example. When Zatanna was crying about her dad, Artemis was there to comfort her. It was so sweet! Roy and her also took in Halo and Terra like they were a part of the family; the archer treated them like the best big sister. That rainstorm scene was heartwarming to the core.

Wouldn’t Artemis be an amazing mother? Lian and her have a strong bond like a mother and daughter; I loved it, and Lian is in good hands with Roy and Artemis. Though Jade deserves a chance to be a mother. Artemis also seemed to enjoy taking care of those kids in that S1 episode. Wally too. You guys know what I’m guys insinuating. 😉

Get ready for some fanfics on that someday.

My favorite Artemis-centered episode was the second to last episode of S3. I was waiting for this episode centering around Artemis missing Wally and learning to move on. It was great yet heartbreaking. Nothing bad happened. That Will and Artemis kiss never happened. Everyone makes a mistake. No matter how terrible it was.

Anyway, seeing Artemis and Wally living their lives and having a baby gave me life, even if it was fake. It was a vision of the future. I will believe this until there is confirmation that Wally will not come back.

Did anyone else cry when Artemis was so desperate to, but Wally wouldn’t let that happen (the real Wally would do that)? They are a great example of a healthy relationship with all the love and support they have for each other. I want that.

#artemis young justice #artemis crock #wally x artemis #bart allen #impulse #Wally West #kid flash #Superboy #bluepulse #bartuardo #top 10 list #top 10 favorites #top 10 #kaldur #kaldur'ahm #aqualad #conner kent #kon el #kaldur x wyynde #miss martian #M'gann M'orzz #megan morse #dick grayson #nightwing #garfield logan #beast boy #young justice outsiders #young justice cartoon #Young Justice #red arrow

[angelhummel]

Hey! Sorry if this is inappropriate or weird, it's gonna be a long ask, feel free to ignore if u like, anyway, to the point... a friend of mine asked me to read a Kurtbastian fic (I'm a multishipper but always Klaine above all), I usually stick to Klaine fics but I've already read 1 Kurtbastian and liked it enough so I thought I give this one a chance... I'm already invested and I have this thing where I have to finish things even if they're not really my cup of tea, but this fic is just so toxic against Blaine and Klaine in general, I don't know how my friend managed to like it and still ship Klaine, (I still do, don't get me wrong) but even tho it's an interesting read, it takes some canon s5 things and twists them in a emotionally manipulative way and it even gives me headache, it's just so well written and logical that makes me doubt about Blaine, they are some things in canon that I never understood but ignored them, like the cheating of course, how he blamed Kurt for it and this fic claims that Blaine is jealous of him and doesn't think he's as talented as him or Rachel and is selfish, and judges everything he does, like his workout and eating habits, or only does good things for him when he wants something in return

Or saying he's agressive for lashing out to Finn and Sam, and that thing in the car in Scandals

And also that Kurt only slept with Blaine because he was afraid he would go with Sebastian, because they've been texting a lot, and they we're dancing all night, and honestly I never found a way to explain that myself, cause it does look like Seb made him a little horny and he wanted to blow some steam with Kurt

So they use plots like those to say he would eventually hit Kurt (the episode bash does not exist in this au) and that he was always manipulating him but mostly in s5...so I guess I could use some reassurance if you're up for it, I really like your metas and headcanons about Klaine, I know neither Kurt or Blaine are perfect but they're still some behaviors I never understood myself but ignored them and this fic gives them logical but toxic explanations (also in this fic Seb changed a lot and apologized to Kurt and is this very sweet guy who has a perfectly logical explanation as to way he was the way he was to Kurt in high school, so that's why he seems better than Blaine in comparison in this fic lol) (also this fic claims Blaine would cheat again if Sam was gay or bi, and he did cheat in this fic and they paint him as a compulsive liar who lies to everyone about his relationship, to Kurt, to Sam, to Burt)

So what's your opinion I guess lol, why is Blaine not like this fic says?, I know he's a ray of sunshine who loves Kurt and would never hurt him on purpose but I'm kinda forgetting why, I'm scared lol

(this isn't hate of any kind to Blaine, I don't believe any of this things but I guess I just need a reminder that all of this isn't true lol)

Hiding under a cut because you know I got a lot to say lol

Mm okay first of all Blaine antis will do anything they can to paint him in the absolute worst possible light. No room for nuance or reason, he's just evil and manipulative and abusive. I've seen plenty of Blaine discourse but only ever purposefully read (at least part of) one anti Blaine fic where Blaine literally stole Kurt's NYADA acceptance letter and forged a new rejection letter and put it back in his mailbox. Just so he could comfort Kurt after his "rejection", then for some reason talk him into going to NY anyway, and also apparently planned for them to grow apart solely so he could have an excuse to cheat and then get mad at Kurt for getting distant? And people in the comments were like "This makes everything make so much sense! This is totally something Blaine would do! This explains everything!" like I was literally in shock lmao. I could not believe my eyeballs

And with Sebastian, literally any good trait you give him is 100% fictional. Whatever boohoo poor little rich boy story is given to him in fic, I can only imagine. But there's no evidence of that in canon. All we get in canon is that it takes Karofsky trying to kill himself before Sebastian realizes he's been an asshole to everyone. And even that's being generous bc he literally only says "I've treated everything like a joke. ... It's all fun and games until it's not". So being a rude and racist piece of shit and literally putting someone in the hospital was all for shits and giggles I guess

The whole "jealous of each other" thing I think is an old standby argument to explain why Klaine are incompatible. Bc they'll always be competing in life. So obviously it's better that they find a partner that won't push them to be better or challenge them in any way, I suppose. Y'know, bc there's no way a relationship can have two strong personalities and talents in it :|

And yes, he does have some pent up anger that, like I said, can manifest itself in unhealthy ways. I see where he was coming from in 3x08 but he definitely went too far and struck a nerve with Sam. But Sam was the one that physically lashed out first. But honestly, even if the fight hadn't been broken up immediately, I don't think it would've lasted that long. Blaine only took up boxing in the first place as self defense. He'd rather go toe to toe with a punching bag than actively try and harm someone else. And he would never lash out at Kurt like that. None of their fights ever got close to physical. Except for, again, stage combat class with prop swords. That's not exactly on the same level

For 3x05... Kurt was already self conscious and worried about boring Blaine before Sebastian even came along. But Blaine reassured him that he was "the single most interesting kid in all of Ohio". Kurt didn't want Blaine to be unsatisfied, but Blaine assured Kurt that he was fine taking things slow, and that no matter what happened, the important thing was that they were both comfortable. It's obvious that during the week, Sebastian ends up getting under both their skins. I think they go to Scandals just to keep up with Sebastian but that's it. If Kurt's only reason for having sex with Blaine was to keep him on the hook, he would've forced himself to get physical with him in the car in the parking lot. But he didn't. He put his foot down and told Blaine this wasn't what he wanted. And Blaine didn't understand at first, but did once he sobered up. And he made sure to apologize, and reassured Kurt that Sebastian meant nothing to him (lots of words of affirmation this ep!) Kurt cracks a joke, they kiss, and Kurt makes up his mind on his own that this is the right time for them, and they go back to Blaine's place. No manipulation in sight

I've talked a lot about Blaine cheating before so here's a couple of more recent posts that have pretty much everything I still feel x - x

As for cheating on Sam... That really is only an anti Blaine fanfic problem bc it could not happen in canon bc canon!Sam is only straight. Sorry bout it :/ Even if he was bi in canon, the closest we ever saw Blam was in s4 when Klaine was broken up. They could've gone for it then and it wouldn't have mattered. But in the show, even when Blaine was at a low point, there was never anything to suggest he was looking to stray again. Early s4 was a special kind of low point for Blaine and he never got there again. Even with his troubles in s5, it's not like he was turning to Sam for comfort or reassurance. He confronted Elliott once in anger, but every other time we see him and Kurt sit down in the end and talk out their issues. The only way it would make sense for Blaine to seek out someone else is if some random fanfic writer said "I'm going to make Blaine seek out someone else" and then rewrote everything around it to make their story make more sense. Which, again, is twisting canon into something it's not

And the liar thing doesn't even make sense. Like I mention in the cheating post, he's literally one of the veryyy few people that does wrong and then immediately tries to make it right instead of hiding it as long as he can. He goes to NY to confess to Kurt right after. And he tells Sam exactly what happened, too. Like we literally see a flashback of Blaine feeling awful and regretting what he did, then Blaine tells Sam he felt awful and regretted what he did. Idk where the lie was supposed to be. Some people will come up with anything they can I guess

I think that covers everything! Hope it helped ♥️

#glee #kurt hummel #blaine anderson #klaine #my thoughts #anonymous #long post #anti sebastian smythe #anti kurtbastian #anti blam #just to be safe #suicide tw #assault tw #anti blaine antis #lol #just over 1k words of nothing but blaine and klaine defense

[teamfreewill2pointo]

Sam’s Emotional Arc 1/3

I hated the finale immediately, but I’ve spent some time with it and talked to friends who loved it. I can see now what it was about, and I’ve come to appreciate the story they were trying to tell, even if I think it didn’t land right.

I’ve been told that my meta on this has helped other people come to terms with the finale, so I thought I’d compile it in one place from across various discord channels and twitter posts. If you are struggling with the finale, I hope it helps you.

Part of this actually started with a shit post. I was making a joke about Sam being psychic since he was scared of clowns when Dean died by one. I realized that may have been deliberate. I dug into the story more and now I’m convinced it was. Then I came across some excellent meta that fit with the themes I was finding and opened up the series even more for me.

Happiness isn’t in the having, it’s in just being. It’s in just saying it.

Cas said it. Dean accepted it. Sam lived it. First, Sam’s journey. 

Clowns pop up in s15 before the barn scene. In 15.01, which was written by Dabb, Sam is injured by a clown. Castiel is able to save Sam and heal his injury. The clown keeps coming after Sam, with Sam having fight scenes with the clown, while others attack the other ghosts. The clown is kicking the shit out of Sam again, and Castiel saves him once more. Sam is unable to fight off the clown on his own both times.

They run until they are able to escape outside a magical barrier. Sam turns to the clown and says, “shut up”. 

This is literally Sam running from his fears. On top of that, this isn’t just any clown, but the ghost of John Wayne Gacy, from an episode also written by Dabb.

Dean: A serial killer clown. I mean, this is, like, the best/worst thing that’s ever happened to you, you know, ‘cause you love serial killers, but – but you hate clowns.

Sam gets nervous and struggles with the lighter before he’s able to get rid of the clown, for now.

I believe this is a metaphor for hunting in general: it’s both the best of Sam’s life and also the worst. The clowns symbolize his relationship with Dean.

Plucky Pennywhistle's Magical Menagerie was co-written by Dabb (see the pattern?). Sam’s fear of clowns was known since season 2. In season 7, Dabb explored where this fear came from.

On the surface, Sam’s fear is just because he found them creepy, but the episode explains that they actually come from Sam’s fear of being left behind by Dean.

This episode comes directly after an episode where Sam worried that Dean would get himself killed

Sam: Look... Dean, the thing is, tonight... It almost got you killed. Now, I don't care how you deal. I really, really don't. But just don't – don't get killed. Dean: I'll do what I can. Sam: Well, what's that supposed to mean? Dean: It means I'll do what I can. All right? You can shut up about it.

Sam is dealing with Hallucifer at this moment, but Hallucifer doesn’t really scare him. Losing Dean does.

Sam has a conversation with an employee about greatest fears.

Recognize the actress? She came back for s15 in 15.06. I don’t believe this was a coincidence. 15.06 featured Castiel helping a parent find their lost child in a season that features Castiel worried about losing Jack. Through his experience with her, Castiel confronts his fears and doubts and then returns to join in the fight against God. [I’ll touch on Castiel’s journey more in his chapter]

Sam’s greatest fear is losing Dean. There’s a lot in the series about how Sam felt lonely and abandoned for much of his childhood. A whole episode, Just My Imagination, centers around this. Sam hated when Dean went off on hunts without him.

source In The Chitters, Sam tells Dean how his fear of losing his family paralyzed him as child. It’s a story where an older brother dies and the younger brother never recovers from it until he’s able to lay him to rest (sound familiar???)

Sam: You know, whenever you and Dad used to leave me to go hunting, and I-and I wouldn’t hear from y’all for a while, I, um, I was always sure that some vamp or rugaru, or take your pick, I always figured one of them finally got ya. I tried to think what to do, you know, the next step to take. I was just lost. Dean: We came back, though, every time.

You might naturally think, “Wait a minute! Sam left Dean multiple times!” Honestly, this was something I had a huge issue with when watching through the show the first time. I didn’t understand Sam and hated him leaving Dean in s8. I was completely on Dean’s side at first. But, on multiple rewatches and talking to others, I’ve realized that when Sam left Dean, he was running from his fear. In this TV Guide interview, Jared perfectly sums up why Sam left in season 1; he couldn’t stand to see his family die. Dabb wrote Dark Side of the Moon along with a comic that explains why Sam left in detail. While the comic isn’t official canon, it shows Dabb’s thought process. In it, Sam sees his family as running towards a horrible end and can’t handle dealing with that.

Dean: So what are you gonna do? You're just gonna live some normal, apple pie life? Is that it? Sam: No. Not normal. Safe.

There are many more points in the series where we learn about Sam’s fear of Dean dying. This would be 3948573945 pages long if I wrote them all out, so I’m going to focus on the key moments that loop back to this ending, but there’s so much more there.

If you are struggling with this and need more, please let me know and I can do a deeper dive into that subject. We first see Sam’s inability to let Dean go in season 1 when Sam refuses to let Dean die in Faith.

Dean: You're not gonna let me die in peace, are you? Sam: I'm not gonna let you die, period. We're going.

Sam’s whole arc in s3 is him being unable to handle Dean dying. He wants to save Dean, but Dean won’t let himself be saved. This was what Gabriel was trying to teach him in Mystery Spot.

Trickster: This obsession to save Dean? The way you two keep sacrificing yourselves for each other? Nothing good comes out of it. Just blood and pain. Dean's your weakness. And the bad guys know it, too. It's gonna be the death of you, Sam. Sometimes you just gotta let people go.

This is how Ruby gets under Sam’s skin and what gets him to start working with her. Everything Sam did was to save Dean. In s4, Sam’s arc is about him sacrificing himself in order to save Dean. He’s gutted from being unable to save Dean. In 4.12, Sam decides to drink demon blood in order to save Dean

Dean: [says that they will die early] Sam: Maybe we'll be different, Dean. Dean: What kind of Kool-Aid you drinking, man? Sammy, it ends bloody or sad. That's just the life. Sam: What if we could win?Dean: "Win"?Sam: If there was a way we could just...put an end to all of it.

When Sam breaks out of the panic room, he’s suicidal. He’s determined to save Dean with his life as the cost he’s willing to pay. He didn’t think he would survive killing Lilith. He was committing suicide in that moment. The reason why Sam is so willing to sacrifice himself in s5 is because he has low self esteem. He blames himself for everything that goes wrong. In Sam, Interrupted 5.11, also by Dabb, Sam has a breakdown under the weight of his guilt. He hates himself and he feels his rage is out of control. In season 6, we see soulless Sam and, unlike souled Sam, he has no rage. Yes, he’ll kill when necessary, but he’s not angry. It was Sam’s fear driving his rage. He felt out of control of his life and let it lead him down a dark path. In season 7, he sees Dean heading down a dark path and he feels helpless to stop it. He worries about dragging Dean down and tells Dean to let him go. But, at the same time, he’s developing coping techniques. He’s starting to face his fears. 

And then Dean disappears and Sam completely falls apart. Sam didn’t have a healthy relationship with Amelia. They were two broken people clinging to each other. Sam and Dean struggle to reconnect after their time apart. There’s a lot of text addressing the horror of a partner dying and people trying to escape from it.

Mrs Holmes: He could see the end of my days were at hand, and... He had lived centuries all alone, but I don't think he could bear the thought of life without me. That's why he drove off that bridge. You must think I'm a monster.

In Hunteri Heroica written by GUESS WHO!?!? Sam finally acknowledges that he was living in a dream world with Amelia. He was running from his past. We see a flash back with Sam pressing on his scar, which he did to help himself distinguish fantasy from reality.

The episode is about a man refusing to engage in reality and harming those around him. Sam has a big confrontation with him

Sam: Look, it can be nice living in a dream world. It can be great. I know that. And you can hide, and you can pretend... all the crap out there doesn't exist, but you can't do it forever because... eventually, whatever it is you're running from – it'll find you. [CASTIEL appears to be taking Sam’s words to heart.] It'll come along, and it'll punch you in the gut. And then... then you got to wake up, because if you don't, then trying to keep that dream alive will destroy you! It'll destroy everything!

Likewise, when Sam was with Jessica, he wasn’t honest about himself. He was hiding from his family and his past. Running to avoid pain. Sam is avoidant in general. Not just in his relationship with Dean. When he talks with Rowena in 13.12 Various & Sundry Villains about his fears of Lucifer, he admits that he could talk about it with Dean, but he can’t bring himself to.

Sam: I’ve seen it too. What he really looks like behind – behind whatever vessel. It… Yeah, still keeps me up at night. Rowena: How do you deal with it? Sam: I guess I don’t deal with it. Not really. I mean, I pushed it down and, um, the world kept almost ending, so I keep pushing it down, and I don’t know. [stammering] I really don’t talk about it, not even with Dean. I mean, I could. You know, he’d listen, but… That’s not something I really know how to share.

In 15.20, Sam’s past is front and center. Literally. I know a lot of people found the Winchester family portrait odd and upsetting, but it symbolizes something I’ll get to in a bit. Instead of trying to avoid his grief, Sam has moments where he lets it wash over him. He goes and sits in the car. He’s no longer avoidant. He’s no longer running away. He’s letting his grief move through him. He’s literally sitting with it.

Soulless Puppy pointed out that the characters emotional arcs is similar to DBT. Please look through their awesome meta here.

Personally, I see them as similar to the therapy I do called ACT. Both are forms of therapy where instead of fighting against them, you accept painful emotions and allow yourself to feel them. If you don’t do that work, then you can’t stop feeling them and your fears/ghosts will always haunt you.  In Swan Song, Chuck tells us that “Dean didn't want Cas to save him. Every part of him, every fiber he's got, wants to die, or find a way to bring Sam back. But he isn't gonna do either. Because he made a promise.”  In 15.20, Sam initially didn’t want to let Dean go. He’s been refusing to do this since season 1. When he’s separated from Dean he lives a fake life or destroys himself/the world trying to get Dean back. There’s a moment in 15.20 where Sam looks at Dean’s guns. He wants to commit suicide, but he makes the choice to live. For the time in Sam’s life, he let Dean go and lived with his pain. He no longer ran from it. After Swan Song, Dean was unable to let Sam go. He wanted him back. After Carry On, Sam is able to do what Dean couldn’t do. He lives a life outside of Dean. What’s more, Sam has reconciled himself with his past and his family. It’s clumsy and I wish it were better shown, but having the family portrait and their parents in heaven isn’t meant to excuse the way Sam and Dean were raised. In order to move past the trauma of his relationship with his parents, Sam fully integrates them into his life. In Lebanon, Sam was able to confront and forgive his father. In doing so, he can also forgive himself. Mary asks for forgiveness too, and he grants it to her. He doesn’t forget what happened, but he’s able to move forward and leave the intergenerational cycle of violence. He’s able to raise his son, Dean, the way his brother should have been raised.

Happiness isn’t in the having, it’s in just being. It’s in just saying it.

Cas said it. Dean accepted it. Sam lived it.

I can see why people see Sam’s life after Dean as unhappy. I hated it so much because I saw it as horrible and sad the first time through. I had to sit with myself and my emotions first. I think it’s because we’ve been told by society that we have to get rid of our grief in order to be happy. The finale was showing us that it’s possible to do the opposite. [Personally I think it would’ve been better had they showed more overtly happy memories, but many of my friends saw this straight away] When I began therapy, one of the first things I learned was that there aren’t “negative” emotions. When working with our kids, we call them Big emotions. In DBT/ACT, all emotions are treated as normal and natural. Grief, anger, sadness, etc, these are all normal parts of the human existence. We don’t need to run from them in order to have happiness. We can live with them. As interstitial said in our chats, “you can't change the past, you can only change your relationship to it. To accept that your past contained both love and heartache, to miss it, but also know you can do better; that's actual recovery, as good as it gets.” As Soulless-Puppy explained to me, Sam lived in duality. Dean was dead, but Sam lived. Sam was happy, but he grieved. Dean was with him in the watch and the car and his son, but Dean also waited for him in heaven. I hated the finale the first time I saw it, then next watched it with my boyfriend who loved it. As we were watching together and discussing it, I realized that Dean’s death scene wasn’t just about him, but about the show itself. 

Dean promising Sam that he will be with Sam in Sam’s heart is also the show promising us that they will never leave it. That’s why Alex kept posting “The end has no end.” Just as Sam carried Dean with him in his heart, we will carry the show with us. I hope this helps. It’s a terrible thing to feel upset about an ending and thinking of the show this way, recognizing these patterns, is bringing me peace. I still have issues with how it was written, but now that I see what they were doing, I wish all the more that they had the chance to do it right. Please share your thoughts and experiences. I love hearing different opinions. Next up, Dean. Then Castiel.

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Hi, what is for you the scene, episode or season in which Castiel is aware of his love for Dean. And vice versa? Thank you.

Ooooooo this is a good question

I think part of Cas knew he was in love with Dean from the moment he dragged him out of hell, but for me the big moment that is almost a realization comes in “Heaven and Hell” when Anna kisses Dean.  The camera cuts back to Cas and, though he’s hard to read, I always saw it a little like longing.  He wants not only what Anna has (feeling, emotions, love) but also specifically what she has with Dean.  He’s already been called into question for how he feels about Dean at this point (”he has this weakness, he likes you”), and I think there’s a shift for him in that moment, a slight understanding of what he wants.

And just to continue, “On The Head of a Pin” is where he starts to understand the depths of the feelings he has for Dean.  He’s already willing to risk it all for him, already been demoted in some way, suddenly playing second fiddle to Uriel in the beginning of the episode, and then he goes to seek out Anna, saying he feels...something.  Yeah okay, not specifically about Dean, but it’s already been made clear that Dean is the reason for this change in him, it’s already been said repeatedly by this point.  So I guess with Cas I have two moments, one where he realizes he likes Dean more than he should, and one where he realizes he’s in love with him lol.

Dean.  Dean Dean Dean.  My sweet boy.  I actually fluctuate on this a lot, because sometimes I feel like he’s completely oblivious to his own feelings for a good while (sans maybe “aha yeah I have a lil crush on Cas ig), and sometimes I feel like it’s seasons of unending seasons of mutual pining.

There’s just so much good shit with Dean in regards to how he feels about Cas, like how do you pinpoint that exact moment?  Is it s5, “don’t ever change”? S6, when he turns back to look at Cas, trapped in the holy fire? S7, when he says “I’d rather have you, cursed or not”?  S8, Purgatory? S12/13, widower’s arc? S15 as a whole???

With Cas, it was obvious early, clear in every way that Dean was the reason he was doubting, struggling with his orders, that Dean was the reason he fell.  He says it, it’s clear in his actions, literally everyone that knew Cas prior to meeting Dean says it...the writing’s on the wall.  But with Dean, it’s a subtle shift, moving from resigned allyship to grudging friends to head over heels in love.

Dean loves with all he has, but it takes him some trust to get there, so idk if I have an exact moment for you with him, because Cas wormed his way into Dean’s heart over time, I don’t know that there was ever a moment where Dean thought “fuck, I’m in love with him.” I think it became so inextricably linked to how he felt about Cas that he acknowledged it silently, accepted he couldn’t have it, and moved on.

#anonymous #lilly answers #spn #destiel #my meta #i know a lot of people think dean knew and was totally comfortable with it long before the confession but thats never been my vibe #he's oblivious a lot of the time lmao