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alexlovesfanfics · 2 months

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Part 2 of changes I would have made to Heros of Olympus.

Obligatory disclaimer: I do not think I am better than Rick Riordan and what he has created is amazing but that doesn't mean we should not criticise it and it's important to be able to step back and see the issues or missed potential of a piece of writing

There would be at least 1 year gap b/w the PJO and HOO and both Percy and Annabeth would be 17, making them significantly older than most of the cast who all (with the exception of Jason for reasons I will get into) would be 13-15. This means Percy and Annabeth would be mentoring them.

Also as a benefit of the gap I would love to see Nico and Percy's relationship be slightly better though that's just because I love them

Grover would take the place of Coach Hedge and help Percy and Annabeth with mentoring the others. Also he and Nico would talk about Bianca as he was in the quest with her and her friend. Grover would help Nico with accepting that Bianca's death was mainly the fault of Talos.

Jason would still be 16 along with Reyna and Octavian. The three would have been friends pre-HOO (I have a whole trilogy planned for them that I will Inshallah write in the summer) and Octavian would start dating Jason shortly before TLH. He would also assume that Reyna would have assassinated Jason for political reasons (credit to @percabeth4life for this entire arc idea)

Jiper would become canon shortly before Mark Of Athena in the months after The Lost Hero. Octavian would be extremely upset about this and this would probably cause issues.

Percy would be called Perseus among the Romans

Percy would help Octavian search for Jason and get all the water life and Pegasi to look for Jason which would bring the 2 close and create a point of tension between Percy and Jason as Percy would be upset on Octavian's behalf that Jason went and dated Piper without even breaking up with Octavian (BC he didn't remember their relationship at first)

Percy also wouldn't sleep for months and instead wake up at the owl house (it was supposed to be wolf house but it's funny so I'm'n keeping it) at the same time as Jason showed up on the bus and he would be Praetor for several months slowly regaining his memory

Instead of just remembering Annabeth, he would also remember Grover because of the empathy link

Nico and Hazel's relationship would receive more focus. In the Cupid Scene, Hazel is there instead of Jason and Cupid instead of out right outting would instead subtly hint at him to do so. He'd talk about queer ppl in the myths and how being gay is okay and how you should accept yourself and not hide it and make Nico promise to try before giving them the staff. Hazel would ask and Nico would admit his crush on Percy. While surprised (40s kid) she would accept him unconditionally because that's her brother

Frank would be 14 and they wouldn't get together until a few years after the books

Hazel and Frank would have more focus and would have interest they still took part in like Hazel still drawing (maybe doodling in the corners of pages during meetings)

Percy and Annabeth wouldn't be as interested in moving to CJ. Like yeah Annabeth would immediately use it as a reference for New Athens but Percy hates strict rules and CHB is both Percy and Annabeth's home. It's also close to where a majority of their support system (Sally, Paul, Chiron, Annabeth's siblings, Clarisse bc you pry her friendship with them out of my cold dead hands, e.t.c). Also Annabeth is v ambitious and seems like someone who would eventually want to go to a very prestigious university. Emphasis on eventually as I think both she and Percy would take a break from school to recover from their trauma and get in a better headspace for dealing with all that

Tartarus would be far worse but while Annabeth would freak out at the Akhlys thing, she certainly would understand why Percy did it and wouldn't make him promise not to use those powers again

Piper and Annabeth would not get along at first. Annabeth enjoys girlie things and was friends with Silena so Piper insulting the Aphrodite cabin and looking down on girls for being feminine would not fly with her. While I do think this would change as Piper accepts her femininity (see previous post ABT changes I would make to HOO) I think Annabeth would be closer to Hazel and be like an older sister to her

Also Hazel would have dark hair and dark eyes like a normal black girl. No exotic bs. Same with Piper.

Frank would have dyslexia too because I am living proof that Asians can have learning disabilities too.

These are all for now. Will probably add more

#percy jackson #annabeth chase #heros of olympus #jason grace #nico di angelo #percy jackson and the heroes of olympus #rr crit #percy jackon and the olympians #anti hoo #hoo crit #piper mclean #hazel levesque #frank zhang #reyna avila ramirez arellano #octavian #shut up alex

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doevademe · 2 years

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I keep reading the fake memories prompt over and over and trying my best not to cry or laugh thank you thank you it's too good to be true and it's too good to not become a full Novel length fic. I can just imagine Percy hearing that Jason and piper also had the fake memories shit and are now dating for real and just drags then because gods I need your help and they ask for context of their relationship and by the time he's finished, they're like: what kind of telenovela drama worthy stuff is this?

What would happen next? Would Percy and Annabeth fall to Tartarus? Would Nico fall with Percy instead? If it's like canon I can imagine the cupid scene with Jason changing and Jason thinking oh gods it's mutual pining. How would their happy ending happen?

I mean, if someone wants to write it, they are more than welcome to (as with any of the prompts I recieve), but a lot of plot points I would come up with would be too similar to my fic Love is not Soft and Fluffy for my liking, so I'd have to pass on writing a full-length fic of that one (I may do another scene if I get a prompt about it, though).

Still, if you'd like a summary of what I'd do...

Yes, during the trip to Rome, Percy would hound Jason and Piper about their relationship. Whether they even like each other if they didn't have these memories of a relationship that didn't exist. Piper would be the one to tell him that she's not sure if the feelings are real, but that she wants to pursue things with Jason because she does like him, and wants to find out if it can be more. If it's already more. Jason never finds out it's Nico they are talking about.

I would have Percy choose Nico, of course, because he realizes that he cannot focus on Annabeth at all while Nico is in danger. He tells Annabeth this during their Italian lunch in Rome, and Annabeth leaves for the Mark of Athena distraught.

When they rescue Nico, he is avoiding Percy, so he can't get him alone to talk about it before Annabeth does her thing and blows up a hole to Tartarus.

Percy, who still loves Annabeth (but is no longer in love with her), goes in to save her, and falls with her, promising Nico to see him on the other side. Nico takes this as proof that, with his memories back, he chose Annabeth.

Percy's trek through Tartarus stays mostly the same, but there's a talk between him and Annabeth, and he tells her everything. Annabeth and him break up properly, and while there's some hard feelings, their friendship is stronger than any romance they may had lost.

Nico's encounter with Cupid is different. It would be revealed that it was him that planted the fake memories. Not as a prank, but to have Nico accept his feelings. A twisted way of "helping". Nico rages at him, but admits that yes, he accepts who he is now. He loves Percy, and he hates himself for it.

Jason puts two and two together, but no matter what he says, Nico is convinced Percy chose Annabeth.

The story would end after the two reunite after Tartarus. Percy would catch him as he's tying up the Athena Parthenos, and tell him how his memories had barely been altered. How it just needed a little kiss here and there and he never even questioned that they were together.

Nico would ask about Annabeth, and Percy would admit that he loves her, but it's Nico who keeps him going, and that their promise was what made him survive Tartarus.

He loves Nico, and maybe he always did, and wants them to go back to being boyfriends like those few days back in New Rome.

Nico accepts, reluctantly, but filled with hope, and makes him promise again, to come back alive and he would do the same.

Their real story together has yet to begin, after all.

#percico #my writing #kinda #just a summary #but i hope you enjoy #ask #anonymous

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thetimetraveler24 · 3 years

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So recently I was watching a YouTube video on how badly the Peter Johnson movies messed up and the question of how the film makers expected to continue the series was posed. So I’m going to give you my admittedly crack predictions.

The Titan’s Curse

Emo Nico from the beginning.

Bianca would probably be in love with Percy and refuse to join the hunters.

She’d also survive the quest and then join the hunters at the end of the movie.

The writers would probably skim Nico’s wiki page and see that he’s gay.

We’d have the Cupid scene like six books too soon.

Or worse they’d make him straight and remember some girlfriend he had in the 1930s or something.

Percy would definitely fight Atlas instead of letting Artemis do it.

Luke would probably be a cyborg because Polyphemus definitely ate him when Luke got stuck in his cave at the end of the last movie.

Or in some bs move, Luke would be dead and Ethan Nakamura took over the army.

THE DAM JOKES WOULD NOT EXIST!

Nico’s the villain because as we all know, Hades is evil and so are his kids.

Thalia wouldn’t join the hunters.

She’d go off and join with Luke.

Zoe would be made out to be an asshole not a hurt victim that eventually connects with Percy in a meaningful way.

Or, you know, she’d try to kiss him because that’s what a really devote hunter like Zoe would do.

Also riptide wouldn’t be her’s.

The Battle of the Labyrinth

Nico would try to kill Percy.

Bianca just wouldn’t be in it at all.

Rachel would be a Rich Girl™️ that doesn’t give a crap about the planet.

She and Nico would probably kiss or something. Gross.

Calypso and Ogygia would be cut out.

Daedalus and Nico are secretly working together to take down Camp Half-Blood.

Pan would be cut out.

The Panic would be written in as a power all satyrs have.

No Juniper. We all know Grover’s too much of a womanizer to settle down like that.

No Clarisse and Chris arc. Which would be forgivable because you do have to cut some stuff but it adds to Clarisse’s character I think.

The Last Olympian

No Beckendorf. Percy would blow up the boat himself.

No visit to Poseidon. There’s literally no point since he tells Percy to ask Chiron to hear the prophecy and Percy already learned it in SoM.

Silena isn’t the spy. She was already revealed to be on Luke’s side in SoM.

It’s actually Annabeth because love triangles and Thalia is her BFF.

Ares cabin doesn’t back out of the fight because Percy and Clarisse have their dumb friendly banter and she agrees to fight with them.

Nico kidnaps Percy and shoved him into the Styx without getting Sallys blessing and it works?

Nico shows up to the battle at some point without his dad and offers Luke and Thalia his help. Only to turn around on them at the last minute but he literally summons a fricken legion of zombies that would be impossible for him to do without dying?

During big battle, Thalia removes Luke’s prosthetic arm and stabs him because she had a change of heart and/or was a double agent the whole time.

And everyone finds out Annabeth was a spy but it’s fine because she and Percy are dating now after zero romantic buildup.

Also Thalia joins the hunters because they need to squeeze that in for the spin off series Heroes of Olympus. Apparently that comes up a few times based on the wiki page the writers skimmed.

Apollo cabin isn’t there when Percy destroys the bridge.

(Michael’s death is going to be brought up in passing in The Lost Hero or Will Solace was just head counselor the whole time which totally makes sense because he’s like eleven or twelve when Lee dies)

Rachel would just… show up and suddenly be the Oracle now.

Percy’s wish from the gods would remain the same (except for Calypso since she was cut out) and just wouldn’t make sense because it’s not in line for the character they wrote him as in the movies.

No underwater kiss. It would be on Olympus and everyone (even Athena) would be clapping and cheering.

(Heroes of Olympus crack predictions to come)

#crack predictions #Peter Johnson movies #percy jackson and the olympians #the titans curse #the battle of the labyrinth #the last olympian #percy jackson movies #percy jackson #annabeth chase #nico di angelo #thalia grace #luke castellan #rachel elizabeth dare #bianca di angelo

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the-ghost-king · 3 years

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About the cupid scene, Nico was forced to come out, but its also made very clear that Cupid is the bad guy. So is Aphrodite to an extent. They have a twisted and fundamental misunderstanding of love and how it works for mortals. I get that people could be mad about how Nico was forced to come out and putting him through more emotional trauma, but I also think its very realistic in showing how callous and cruel the gods understanding of love is.

I am reminded of the quote by Madeline Miller, "There is no law that gods must be fair..."

I also understand why the scene might be traumatic for other young LGBTQ+ readers, I've seen a lot of people talk about the fear of being outed in regards to them reading that scene as a kid. I completely respect their feelings on that, and I understand that as well. However, as someone who had been forcibly outed once before reading that scene, that scene really helped heal me. I don't think the Cupid scene is inherently homophobic, and I'm often bothered by the lack of nuance regarding around how it's handled.

I recognize it's a very emotional scene, and that people may have a hard time fully separating their emotions from that scene, but at the same time if there's a group of people saying "hey I understand why you disliked this scene but it was really helpful to me as a child because of the different experiences I had" maybe slow the breaks and hear what others also in the community have to say before determining if the scene is homophobic. You don't have to like the scene, and yeah maybe the scene did hurt you but that doesn't make it homophobic.

I want to specify on my word choice there a little closer, because of course outing someone is an act of homophobia, and the scene is homophobic in that sense. However often times the conversation about homophobia in this scene goes to "Rick was homophobic for writing this" where personally I would say this scene toes the line at being too far without ever crossing it. Some people may think this depiction crosses the line into "Rick was homophobic for writing this" which is fine, but just because something depicted homophobia and hurt you doesn't mean it was homophobic. Something doesn't have to out rightly be stated to be bad, in order to be read as bad*, and the Cupid scene does a wonderful job of depicting this.

I talk here about how Nico is shown what love is, and how love is treated by Nico, and how it affects his character. I think it's important to note that Nico's entire storyline can essentially be encompassed in an Orpheus-like or Odyssey-like tale. Nico's undergone this huge emotional and physical labor all in the name of having some form of unconditional love. I think that post is a really important read in the context of this one because I very carefully outline how love shapes Nico and how Nico shape and chooses his own definition of love, but I want to specifically dig into the Cupid scene on this post.

The big criticism often seen is "it's homophobic" which I covered above, and I want to clarify I'm not upset with or mad at or trying to tell anyone they can't dislike it or even say you can't say it's homophobic (my words on my one post are a bit off I'll admit) but the problem I have is when people believe they hold a moral high ground for thinking it's homophobic, or they remove all nuance from the discussion with "it's homophobic". Which is frustrating and annoying because it's a very complex scene, and it really changes Nico's arc and personality and it does help characterize him.

The big reason it shapes him so much is because of the other largest reason the scene is criticized, Cupid's behavior. What often fails to be recognized in those scenes is that Cupid is intentionally painted as the villain, this is very important to the scene.

In the context of this scene Nico makes an unspoken choice, a choice of "what is love to me?". I talk about how Nico claims his narrative in BoTL when he overcomes Minos, and he partially peaks that arc by convincing Gods to join the final battle of TLO. Following that arc however, Nico falls into his second arc, his crush on Percy was important in PJO, but not as important as it is in HoO.

By HoO Nico's entire character revolves around Percy, how to help Percy, how to aid Percy, etc. All of this has to do with Nico's crush on Percy, but also as an act of repayment because Nico hurt Percy- Nico lied to him about knowing him at New Rome in SoN, and he goes to Tartarus shortly after... This mirrors what Percy did after Hades tricked Nico... Percy choked Nico because he was upset with him, so Nico tried to win back Percy's affection by bathing him in the river.

The Cupid Scene is the resolution of Nico's arc, he is essentially given a choice- Cupid or Jason?

For this reason, we do see Nico recognize love for what it has been vs how it could be.

Cupid is there to represent what love is, to Nico love is brutal, and painful, and a lot of hard work... Nico has made himself utilitarian in love simply because it is the only way he can find any affection. Love to Nico is about flaying yourself for the benefit of others, to trample any and all parts of yourself simply to appease those you care for, because you want them to love you so much as you love them. The parallels I could draw between Nico and Orpheus, or Nico and Odysseus... I'd be here a long while...

In that scene Jason represents the alternative form of love which Nico chooses after his interaction with Cupid.

Jason says during the scene that he "preferred Piper's idea of love" which has to do with kindness and caring, etc, and then Jason becomes the embodiment of that idea during the scene- which showcases the alternative of what love can be, thus making Jason a personification of love in the context of that scene.

Jason looks to Nico, he doesn't ask for more, he simply looks to Nico with understanding and acknowledges him for who he is, and he does the exact opposite of what Nico expects:

Jason loves Nico where he is, without conditions, without forcing Nico to become something more. Jason didn’t force Nico to say more than what was necessary for him to understand, Jason looked at Nico and he called Nico brave.

Cupid is a more volatile form of love than Aphrodite, Cupid shoots arrows that makes people animals, that can make a god grow insane, but Aphrodite's form of love is about acceptance and humanity (think to how she picked Ares over Hephaestus even if it was perhaps "wrong")- both are about truth but one is about force and the other about acceptance.

When Nico walks out of there, he makes his choice- he is forced to come out yes, Cupid is wrong for doing this, but Jason again stays a figure of love in Nico's life. Jason basically says, "Good job, I know that was hard, thank you for sharing and let me know if you need anything, people will care about you and understand you," again and again and again to Nico, he doesn't tell Nico he has to come out, and he agrees to keep it between them for now. Jason is love as acceptance, Jason is the first person who unconditionally loves Nico, and that's the choice.

Will Nico accept unconditional love? If the answer is no, then Cupid wins and Nico is denying himself. If the answer is yes, then Jason and Nico win, and Nico no longer needs to make himself utilitarian in love in order to be loved.

The choice is made with Reyna and Hedge, most specifically Reyna.

When he accidentally comes out to them, and they accept him without making a big deal of it, without show, just that acknowledgement and "thank you for sharing" and Nico accepts their words and friendship still- Nico made his choice then to accept the love he was being freely given.

“He carried so much sadness and loneliness, so much heartache. Yet he put his mission first. He persevered. Reyna respected that. She understood that. She'd never been a touchy-feely person, but she had the strangest desire to drape her cloak over Nico's shoulders and tuck him in. She mentally chided herself. He was a comrade, not her little brother. He wouldn't appreciate the gesture.”

This is where we see the slow and steady, and healthy, end to Nico's arc in regards to love really grow into itself, and he begins to heal. He no longer sees such an intense need to make himself utilitarian for love, and he begins to heal from his internalized homophobia too.

(Internalized homophobia discussions with Nico also bother me too often times, people too often assume you can't date while struggling with internalized homophobia or at least very heavy handedly imply that which is just not true... You may have some issues in your relationship, but you can work through the internalized homophobia while building a new relationship and be just fine. Also to assume someone has an unhealthy relationship because of internalized homophobia is weird and lowkey reinforces the idea that "broken" people don't need love, but also does a huge disservice to so many LGBTQ+ people who are happily married/themselves but still struggle with these feelings, and to see a healthy relationship depiction despite someone in that relationship struggling with internalized homophobia is fine and good actually. As long as the individual can recognize what they're dealing with, and work through it in a healthy and constructive manner, then there's nothing wrong there...)

When I started this post to be honest I thought I would have a lot more to say, it's a scene that touched and changed me so deeply as a person, and beyond that in a more objective experience it completely changes Nico's character, by turning his arc around and beginning his healing process. To be honest, there probably is more to be said on it, I just haven't found the words yet... I know parts of this post are clunky and in a year I'm going to read this and see all the places it could be better but for now I'm content with it.

Whether or not someone considers the scene homophobic is a subjective experience, but I think this is a very well written scene purely for the characterization and symbolism, intentional or otherwise. I don't really care that much to debate if it's truly a homophobic scene or not, I can see both why people say it is and why people say it isn't and that can be culminated into "people have different needs" and "minorities aren't a monolith". Personally my much larger complaint is the complete lack of nuance and insight scenes like this are handled with, not the matter of personal opinion an individual reaches on the scene.

*the post uses the word "adult audience" and yes, fair point, children should not be able to decipher symbolism to the extent adults can. But older children and young teens, which the RRverse series are sold for, is when critical thinking skills and media analysis do begin to become parts of classroom curriculum. The scene does an excellent job of not outright stating Cupid is evil, but of depicting that in a very clear cut way.

#nevermind i lied here you go #nico di angelo #meta #long post #anon #ask #internalized homophobia #fandom homophobia

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whitecheddargrooves · 4 years

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things/changes i want in the pjo and (hoo and toa) adaptions!

ALL the sally jackson

hazel and frank just being friends (maybe w/ hazel having a crush on him and him being v flustered abt it!!!!!!)/aging frank down because a 3 year difference at that age is a bit ick

camp half-blood orientation vid with the actors/music of the lighting thief musical

seeing will trying (and failing) to save lee during the battle of the labyrinth

just more of will

more nico and hazel sibling moments

hazel seeing that nicos sad after cupid and not knowing what happended but still comforting him

omg a training montage with nico learning how to fight for the underworld peeps set to toxic by britney spears

nico in tartarus!!!!

black!grover!!!

also just making the campers (like katie, lacy, etc.) poc!! and having some be disabled!!

hazel/nico not understanding the modern world

montage of bianca and nico living in DC by themselves after maria died

also their (and everyone’s!!!) childhood/their mortal parent meeting their godly parent

percy and grover being best friends

also the camp first finding out that percy and annabeth and in tartarus through grover collapsing/being hysterical bc of the empathy link

just grover while they’re in tartarus!!!

seeing nico/percy/annabeth’s mental issues after tartarus

fight scenes w fun music playing (like in the umbrella academy)

this is kinda random but i want to see different variations of the chb shirt. like long sleeve, hoodie, windbreaker, hat, etc. and in different colors

jason and reyna being best friends at camp

having it said that nico and will started dating a couple days before the hidden oracle bc it would’ve taken them AT LEAST 6 months to get together

argo shenanigans/seeing the seven bond

more of piper and leo’s friendship/them at wilderness school

not having frank get skinny/muscley in hoh

just having frank and clarisse be plus sized!!!

i honestly don’t think nico would’ve come out to percy that fast after being outed and with no time to process it so i think they should just drop that scene

instead show chb campers/cj campers saying goodbye to eachoher before cj leaves!!! nico not saying goodbye to hazel and reyna makes NO SENSE.

the last shot of moa being percy’s face, closing his eyes and pulling annabeth closer

i would like will wearing a star wars shirt

nico and jason being buds!

annabeth and leo being buds!

i doubt they’re gonna do the sword of hades thingy so they need to find a way to get bob in the picture

lester being poc

ok i def have more but this is all i can think of at the moment

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quackitiddies · 3 years

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PJO, HOO & TOA SPOILERS! AND TW FOR MENTIONS OF SUICIDAL THOUGHTS AND DEPRESSION

So this year I started to read Percy Jackson and I'm gonna go on a little rant here, more specifically a Nico rant.

So Nico, I love him he is easily my favorite character in the whole PJO universe, I relate to him a lot but I have some issues with the plot or the events.

NICO'S OUTING.

As someone who had issues coming to terms with her sexuality and even hating myself for being who I am (and I still have to work with it) the whole thing were Cupid outed Nico just felt awful to me, "Tell him, Nico Di Angelo. Cupid said. Tell him you are a coward, afraid of yourself and your feelings" -House of Hades I literally cried during this part, I felt anxious just reading how Nico was forced to face his feelings and even say them OUT LOUD, I'm a closed off person like Nico I have a hard time talking about my feelings especially if they are bad feelings I hate being vulnerable, then after years of not knowing who I was I came to the realization that I was definitely not straight and it hit me like a fucking truck. I hated myself for it, sure I never had an issue with the LGBTQ+ community, but I'm a Latina who was raised in a Christian household, I was the daughter with a promising future, my parents have high expectations for me, and I've always tried to be this perfect daughter so when I came to terms that I am bi I realized that this perfect future my family envisioned for me crumbled. I hated myself for not being "the perfect daughter" anymore, my religious guilt made me feel even worse. This year was the worst year for my mental health, I started to have suicidal thoughts and overall I'm not having a good time, I took these books as escapism and when I read the Cupid scene I realized I was reflecting myself in Nico and found comfort in him. I've come out just to my two closest friends, and the idea of Nico not only being outed, he wasn't even in terms with his feelings, but also in front of someone who he didn't trust (or at least to that extent) terrified me. And later it wasn't addressed, I just think something as big and as traumatizing as that should be addressed and talked about.

NICO'S TRAUMA.

So you're telling me that a 14 year old boy, who was born in the 1930's and is gay, lost his sister when he was only 12, was avoided for being Hades's son, took care of himself since he was 12, went through Tartarus alone, was kidnapped and kept in a bronze jar with no idea if his friends were going to rescue him, was horribly outed, suffers from depression, almost vanished for shadow traveling so much, could do nothing to stop a teenager from killing himself, and felt the moment his kinda friend, Leo, died did not received the help of a professional? Since camp half-blood is a safe space for the demigods and said demigods go on dangerous death threatening quests and most of the time come from neglecting/abusive and overall not safe households or environments you'd think that they'd have at least ONE professional adult psychologist/psychiatrist to help them.

During HOO, specially House of Hades and Blood of Olympus, I had a recurring thought "When is Nico gonna break down?" after all that trauma it would be normal for Nico to have a meltdown and then he would grow from it, he could start to heal but it never came.

SOLANGELO.

Listen I'm currently reading The Hidden Oracle, and I like solangelo. Tbh I knew about it before I started to read Trials of Apollo so I when I started reading it I did not expected it to come so fast. I read their interactions during Blood Of Olympus and I liked their banter, I thought "I'd love to see more of their relationship" and when I found out they were a couple I was excited to see their journey but they were alredy in a established relationship in The Hidden Oracle and ngl I was kinda dissapointed bc I wanted to see Nico's journey of accepting who he was, him developing a healthy friendship with Will, the realization of his crush on the Apollo son, and then the confession.

PERCY AND NICO'S RELATIONSHIP

I haven't seen anyone talk abt this, but maybe someone has, so here, I want to see more of Percy's and Nico's relationship after the confession. this is just my wishful mind talking but I want to see how their relationship go from "how do I interact with you?" to friends, Percy being the sassy endearing person he is, and Nico being so done with him but also keeping him around cuz okay maybe the dude is funny and a good person and friend.

That's all i could think at the moment but there's probably more. This are merely my opinions, if you want to point out more things or correct me please do it!

#percy jackon and the olympians #heroes of the olympus #trials of apollo #PJO #pjo/hoo #pjo stuff #toa apollo #nico di angelo #will solace #solangelo #the hidden oracle #house of hades #percy jackson #leo valdez #jason grace

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myopinionhi · 4 years

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Solangelo as LGBTQ Rep and Possible Issues

I do not represent the LGBT community because I’m sure a variety of LGBT fans would have various reactions to Solangelo. As a shy, bisexual person myself, I’ll speak only for myself.

I’ve noticed some people praising Solangelo for being positive LGBTQ rep and then others thinking it doesn’t deserve the praise. I can see both sides.

I think Solangelo overall is positive LGBTQ representation. It’s not perfect. I’m glad Rick made Nico gay. However, Solangelo has one huge problem. It actually kind of suffers from a sort of harmful gay trope. The trope isn’t nearly harmful enough to take away Solangelo’s positive representation, but it’s there. I’ll elaborate more on it at the end of this essay.

Here are things I’m mostly not bothered with that others are regarding Nico and Will’s LGBT rep.

1. Nico being outed by cupid. The infamous Cupid scene made me uncomfortable, and seeing Nico forced out of the closet hit too close to home. I could relate to a young teen struggling to accept the truth about himself. Some LGBTQ characters in media appear in an amazing LGBTQ utopia that pretends LGBTQ individuals don’t have issues with self-acceptance. Heroes of Olympus doesn’t sugarcoat Nico’s issues, because the struggle can be real for some LGBTQ individuals. Yes, Nico was forced out the closet. But he was mainly forced out of the closet to himself. It was supposed to be some sort of emotional release and self-awakening. If he stays in denial, more harm than good will come out of it. What Cupid did was cruel and was supposed to be cruel. I’d have an issue with the scene if Nico was forced out of the closet in front of a group of people, but since he was only forced out in front of Jason and then Jason respectfully keeps Nico’s secret and supports him, I actually don’t have an issue with it.

2. Nico and Will constantly argue. Nico and Will argue since Blood of Olympus. Will is aggressive with Nico. I’ve mentioned this before in a previous essay; Will has to be aggressive because Nico is on the verge of death. Nico is about to disappear into the shadows and hasn’t properly taken care of himself in a long time. After not seeing Nico in months, Will must have been devastated seeing the state of Nico’s health and seeing Nico being so stubborn and anti-social about it. Will’s anger is justified, and Nico needs that push to start being healthy after so long. Nico’s anti-social and self-depreciation also probably frustrated Will. Nico thought no one wanted to be his friend and is going to leave Camp, so Will has to be assertive to convince Nico he is wanted.

Nico and Will’ s bickering in Lost Oracle is more affectionate bickering. They have very different personalities, so they’re going to disagree and let it be known. They have more harmless and playful disagreements. It’s actually more cute, if anything.

The only real issue I have with their arguments is in Blood of Olympus when Will snaps at Nico by claiming “Nobody at Camp Half-Blood ever pushed you away.” and “You pushed yourself away. If you’d get your head out of that brooding cloud of yours for once...” The harmful implication of this statement is the dismissal of Nico’s real experiences of rejection and that if he’d just stop brooding he’d be happy. The implications are....unfortunate. Don’t get me wrong. Will likely lost his patience with Nico’s stubbornness after hearing Nico say he’s leaving Camp, likely never coming back. I understand Will’s devastation, especially since he wants to be Nico’s friend and knows others who do too.

The statement isn’t problematic because Will simply said it. It’s a human to say hurtful things. Will is an exhausted teen who’s on the verge of losing Nico. The real problem is the book doesn’t acknowledge Will’s statement as harmful. Will doesn’t apologize or acknowledge how he was wrong. Will says it and then Nico suddenly agrees to stay at Camp, implying Nico’s isolation was brought completely on himself. Hypothetically, if Will acknowledges his mistakes later, like in Tower of Nero, then this unfortunate line is more forgivable.

3. Nico has barely accepted himself. He’s not ready for a boyfriend. I’d accept this argument if Will and Nico started dating at the end of Blood of Olympus. Fortunately, they don’t. Nico doesn’t even acknowledge having feelings for Will to himself. It’s only implied. I find the many fanfictions having Will and Nico dating after Nico stays at the infirmary for three days unrealistic and rushed. But not this. Will and Nico aren’t a confirmed couple until Hidden Oracle, which happens months after Blood of Olympus. If Nico gets emotional healing and bonds with Will for months, it’s not unreasonable for them to be dating. Even their official relationship in Hidden Oracle seems pretty casual and low stress.

4. Will has Nico on a short leash. No Will doesn’t. After Blood of Olympus, when Will tries to save Nico’s life, Will isn’t controlling. He may tell Nico to be nicer or would bicker, but nothing too overbearing. Will teases Nico for not calling him his boyfriend and doesn’t get angry when Nico shadow-travels in Hidden Oracle. Nico seems to want to be around Will on his own accord. He enjoys being around Will, hence the doctor’s note.

5. Will “fixed” Nico and/or Nico became too dependent on Will. No, the reason Nico is happier in Hidden Oracle is because he has learned to accept himself and he has family and friends supporting him. Some of the most important loved ones for Nico include Hazel, Reyna, Jason, and the rest of the Seven. Blood of Olympus gives more focus and development to Reyna and Nico’s relationship than Nico and Will’s relationship. Will is the straw that broke the camels back, but it’s the accumulation of impactful events and support that gets Nico to happiness. Will helped, especially with Nico’s physical health. When Nico decides to stay at Camp Half-Blood, it’s likely he sees his home in Camp Half-Blood than Camp Jupiter. Bianca trusted Camp Half-Blood to take care of Nico. Nico and Will’s relationship did grow after Blood of Olympus, and Will’s support helps Nico, but there’s no indication of Will be Nico’s “fixer”. He’s just Nico’s friend and boyfriend.

Here’s an interesting argument I’ve been pondering.

Will can’t be both Nico’s doctor and his boyfriend. This argument interests me because if Will had a crush on Nico during Blood of Olympus, he maybe shouldn’t treat Nico as a patient. I’ve seen too many creepy fanfictions of Will using his authority as Nico’s doctor to get closer to Nico. However, Will likely is also the one who knows what’s best for Nico’s health. He’s a better healer even than Apollo. He may also be the only one who knows how save Nico from fading into the shadows in Blood of Olympus since Nico’s powers are unusual. Will’s emotional investment in Nico interferes with objectivity. Then again, Will may be emotionally invested with many people in Camp-Halfblood as well, and Will is the one with the best healing. Will’s doctor’s note for Nico to sit at the Apollo table does touch upon Will’s professional conflict of interest with Nico. It’s possible Will can keep it completely professional as Nico’s doctor since he’s a natural-born healer, but it’s relying on the good-faith of a teenager.

It seems unfair to deprive Nico of the best medical care because Will is his boyfriend. Especially during the winter, it’s possible Kayla’s and Austin’s healing abilities are very inferior to Will’s. At the same time though, there’s conflicts of interest when Will has Nico as his patient.

Here’s one issue I have in regards to Nico’s crush on Percy.

We don’t know how Nico gets over his crush on Percy. We’re never shown Nico’s POV until Blood of Olympus, so it’s very possible Nico goes through some self-realization after the Cupid scene. I find Nico’s dropped crush on Percy disappointing. I would have liked to see Nico admit there’s still some lingering, painful feelings towards Percy for a little while during Blood of Olympus. It would have been interesting seeing Nico accept the heartbreak and move on. Percy was Nico’s first love and someone who Nico invested in for years. House of Hades seems to imply there is still some lingering feelings, but then it’s dropped in Blood of Olympus, and Nico says to Percy “you’re not my type.” It’s lazy writing. It’s like Rick made Nico gay for Percy for that gay angst but then didn’t feel like following through. Nico’s crush on Percy affected Nico for years. How is it dropped within two books?!

The main issue I have with Solangelo

Their romance and relationship is hidden. Okay, if Will didn’t call Nico his boyfriend and Apollo didn’t gush over their relationship in Hidden Oracle, we wouldn’t know they’re in a romantic relationship. All their actions are completely platonic. I get that Nico’s probably not into PDA. I get romantic pet names may be too embarrassing for Nico. I get they may not want to flaunt their relationship. I get they may not want to hold hands. I get they’d want to keep their relationship private. I get they’re young. I get Nico doesn’t like being touched. I get Trials of Apollo is only from Apollo’s POV. That’s not the issue.

What actions do they have that imply they’re boyfriends instead of friends? The most affectionate they’ve gotten is Nico resting his hand on Will’s shoulder, Will casually leaning on Nico before the three-legged race, or Nico grabbing Will’s hand once to shadow-travel to the chariot. There’s not really any tiny romantic actions. There’s no clear romantic flirting, loving gazes, hand squeezes, hugs, legs touching, footsies, kisses on the head, or hugs. Only a couple of these small romantic actions are all that’s necessary. Nico and Will don’t have to go as far as kissing and cuddling. The relationship gets brownie points for using the label "boyfriend”, but then homophobes don’t have to be squeamish about two guys getting even a tiny bit of romantic affection. It’s too easy to censor the explicit gayness of their relationship because there’s not much to possibly censor.

Their absent romantic affection is only half of it though. Another major problem is Solangelo is only in two books. Even when they’re in those two books, their relationship doesn’t get a lot of scenes. In Blood of Olympus, Will and Nico work together and bicker during the battle against Gaia. It’s heartwarming, but they don’t even meet up until more than halfway into the book. In Hidden Oracle, Nico and Will are only in a handful of scenes, and many of these moments are brief. When Will and Nico are shown, they have chemistry. They clearly care and support each other. But this groundbreaking relationship of theirs doesn’t have much. Will is the son of Apollo, and, not including Tower of Nero for now, only appears in Hidden Oracle during Trials of Apollo. Why does Will Solace only appear in 1 (2 including Tower of Nero) books in Trials of Apollo even though his dad is the main character? We don’t know. He could be strong LGBTQ rep with a boyfriend, but....nope.

The same-sex ships get tiny crumbs, and then you’ve got all these straight ships shown and developed in more than two or three books. I’m worried Solangelo is falling under the “But Not Too Gay” trope, where an author wants a gay couple for representation credit, but then won’t give them the same appreciation as straight couples.

Don’t get me wrong. I’d much rather have Nico be gay, and I’d much rather have Solangelo be a couple. I think their relationship is wholesome, and what’s shown of them has positive representation. I don’t find Nico’s LGBTQ representation too problematic. It’s just sort of....missing something important that could make it really positive. For what it’s worth, I appreciate the Solangelo crumbs, and it meant a lot to me growing up.

#solangelo #nico di angelo #will solace #rick riordan #riordan universe #percy jackson #pjo #blood of olympus #spoilers #trials of apollo #house of hades #lgbt #lgbtq #long post #lgbtq rep #representation #meta #anaylsis

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stitchpillowpet · 4 years

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Why I think Valgrace should've been canon: a compromised list

(this is just my opinion and it's fine if you don't agree but please don't put ship hate in my notes)

Firstly, both Jason and Leo got put into really forced relationships. Jiper was rushed and both Jason and Piper deserved better than that. They both should have been allowed to develop their own relationships instead of the one Hera forced them into. Caleo really just felt like comphet or giving Leo a girlfriend at the end of of sympathy. The age gap is also insanely gross. Rick has a history of writing weird age gaps into his stories. When they get together Leo is like 16 or 17 and Calypso is thousand of years old. He is still very much a child while Calypso is a full grown ass adult. I also think that Calypso's story shouldn't have ended with her having a romantic interest. I think her story would've been a lot more interesting if she was freed from the island and still ended up at the waystation but realized that she doesn't need a man in her life to be happy.

Second, Leo being gay would've fit insanely well into his story. If you look at the way the Leo describes the other guys during his POVs, especially Jason, it's very easy to read him as a mlm character. The way Leo talks about women during most of HOO feels forced and like he's trying to appear aggressively straight and failing. As an lgbt person myself, I really related to his struggles and could compare them to my own struggles with my identity. Leo being gay would've really rounded out his story and made his character arc feel more complete.

Third, Jason being gay would've been really cool. The Cupid scene would've been so much cooler if Jason was gay and was able to relate to Nico. It also would've helped develop Jason's character more as a lot of times Jason just gets treated like a discount Percy throughout the series. It would've added so much to Jason's story and character arc.

Overall, it just would've fit really well into the books. Although the representation Rick into his books was good, he still did the bare minimum. It would've been amazing to see another mlm couple in the series and to see more lgbt+ characters in the books.

This is all I have right now, feel free to add more!

#valgrace #leo valdez #jason grace #heroes of olympus #trials of apollo #piper deserved a girlfriend too #piper mclean #calypso #rick riordan #Rick is a coward

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hellswolfie · 3 years

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House of Hades review

From the Heroes of Olympus.

THINGS I DIDN’T LIKE :

- Jiper. I never liked this relationship, I don’t even understand their dynamic or why they like eachother so much, sometimes it just feels like it’s because they find eachother pretty and that’s it. Also they tend to bring the worst out of eachother, which could actually be interesting if it was done on purpose but since it’s not it’s just bad. By that mean I mean Piper charming up Jason when he so much as thinks about another girl who happens to have a crush on him. Her tendency to use her charm speak is really worrying at times, how she uses it on her friends and even boyfriend so casually like that’s mind control !!! And he thinks it’s “fair game” which NO it’s not it’s extremely messed up to be that insecure that you feel that you have to brainwash your boyfriend to make sure he doesn’t leave you. Ask Voldemort. Also there is the fact that Jason actually KNEW about Reyna’s feelings for him. I don’t blame him for not outright rejecting her because come on that’s an extremely awkward conversation to have, especially with someone you’re supposed to work with everyday to lead people. But like, I already thought he was an asshole because the first thing he said to Reyna when he came back after months of dissapearing was that he wanted to make his girlfriend visit New Rome. Now it just makes it worse.

Frank’s physical change. It was just so unnecessary and...kind of send bad messages. What was so interesting about Frank was that he was NOT a stereotypical Ares kid, he even hated the idea of being one at first. Him being all chubby added a lot to his character and it’s really disappointing that now he’s super athletic and I’m so tired of the “he has to physically change and become more of a stereotypical hot dude to complete his arc” .

Hazel’s magical powers. Look i wouldn’t say I HATE it but I just don’t see the point of it? It doesn’t add anything to her character, only powering up more even tho she was already far enough powered up already imo. I think maybe it would have been more interesting to give this arc to Piper since it’s in line with her Charm Speak.

The lack of Nico x Leo. Yeah yeah I know it will never happen but at least one conversation between them could have been so interesting? Like this two are so alike in so many ways! They both have extreme self worth issues and see themselves at the outcasts. They both have a tendency to run away (Leo mentionned that in his first chapter in the lost hero) and hiding their feelings. They both lost their only family and have a lot of trauma. Also they both are real sweet boys inside even though they don’t like to show it too much (let’s not forget Nico was the only one who was nice to Hestia and Bob, and Leo really did something so kind for Frank there). So they could understand eachother like no one else could, but also bring eachother something because they have both different ways of coping with that : Leo is desperate to belong, being the joker and doing everything he can to be useful to the point he doesn’t think anyone would like him for him if he wasn’t all that so he kind of has to play a role in his mind, while Nico just withdrawns himself and rejects everyone around him. They could really balance eachother out. Like imagine their relationship development, going from dislike, Leo being creeped out by Nico and Nico finding his jokes annoying, but then they get to talk and realize they’re not so different and...I’m so frustrated we didn’t get that!!! (PS : if you know a fic where that happens during HoH please give me the link!!)

- It was too short to have 7 POV. Well actually, this is more of a compliment because that means I love the characters so much and I wanted to see more of them. But that almost means that each character didn’t have that much screen time in they POV which made their developemnt in there pretty rush.

Coach Hedge. Look, I really liked him getting more depth with his girlfriend being pregnant and his dead mother but all along the book i couldn’t help but wonder...What is he good for? Why is he even here? I mean he’s supposed to be the protector right? But like, it’s always the kids (the KIDS) who have to take care of him and handle him so he doesn’t do anything stupid. So he’s supposed to be the protector but he never does anything useful, in fact he always finds a way to make the situation worse like when he makes Jason lose his sword because he wanted to beat up a giant turtle so bad. He never helps when it comes to plan because the only thing he says is that he wants to fight even though honestly he’s the weakest of them all. I mean maybe he’ll finally do something useful in the final book, who knows? I still liked knowing he’s the one who brough Clarisse to camp, though, makes so muchs sense...

THINGS I LIKED :

- The POV characters. I loved seeing more of Frank, finally, when he was in the background in the last book, and I loved seeing his development and him being more and more of a leader. Of course I loved Percy, Annabeth and Leo that’s a given. Even though her new powers annoyed me, I still enjoyed Hazel’s POV because she’s still very interesting to follow and I love the way she thinks, she’s very clever. I also liked Piper’s chapter yeeeeaaaaahh !!! And same for Jason, FINALLY AFTER FOUR BOOKS I ACTUALLY LIKE HIM (because he finally has a personality) !!! This two can become very interesting once they stop being so wrapped up around eachother. Like Jason’s struggle between his Roman side and Greek side was really cool to follow, and Piper showing how badass she can be but always wanting to be more? Yes I like that ^^

- Friendships !!! Friendships !!! Finally !! Yeah I was glad this book focused a bit more on friendships than the last one. I loved the Jason x leo stuff, how Jason really seems to admire Leo and how he was the only who realized how sad Leo were after Calypse. Leo x Hazel finally became a friendship instead of the weird thing they had going on thanks god. Leo confectioning something to protect Frank’s staff was so adorable and kind of him like that’s my sweet boi !! I LOVE the potential of Jason x Nico and also maybe Frank x Nico. Piper crying and hugging Annabeth when they are reunited awwww !! And Piper and Hazel bonding over Hazel learning Piper how to fight and Piper helping her with her magic I really liked that (even though I would have like it better if Rick would have showed it instead of just telling us about it). Even Frank and Hedge were pretty heartwarming.

- The Tartarus plot. WOW. It was just...WOW. It was so well written from start to finish, i could feel the horror of this place and how it changed Annabeth and Percy (especially Percy) which was so interesting. Of course the Percabeth moments gave me life. And like...the monsters that give them curses when they die, Nyx, The Nice Titan and The Nice Giant, Tartarus himself...It was just all so good and hurt in the best of way. The “Bob says hello” went straight to my heart. Favorite part of the book.

Caleo : Do i think they should have had more time to develop if Leo is supposed to be THAT in love? Yes. Do i think Nico x Leo would have been so much better and interesting and had so much more potential especially at a slow burn romance where they both become best friends and fall in love in this book but are to afraid to admit yet (again, please give me a link if you know a fic that does that)? Also yes. But I have to admit, they were hella cute. I liked their dynamic (we’re all sluts for ennemies to lovers, no?), and i get how Calypso can be good for Leo : she also has abandonment issues and they work very well together, she’s not afraid to tell him off and he really seems to have grown up after meeting her (and getting his first kiss, which again : hella cute). And I also see how he can be good for her : he’s not like the other Stereotypical Hero she met on her Island, she actually had to get to know him instead of falling in love instantly, and got more in touch into her more mischevious side which I liked to see. Also if he does come back to her (and I better hope he does because he deserves it), that could be an adorable scene and they could have their shop they talked about and...Yeah I like them.

NICCOOOOOO : my baby death boy finally got more screen time and damn it was so good. Of course there was the Cupid Scene. I didn’t like how he was basically forced to come out but I still loved the intensity of this scene, and the revelation that he was in love with Percy and he hated himself because of that? My baby needs a hug (and while it hurt, it was also pretty funny in the end how Percy was so confused about Nico’s aptitude towards him, always and forever oblivious to when someone has a crush on him). But also that makes so much sense. His relationship with Jason? Loved it, loved how Jason gave him advice about opening up more to people (and I totally relate to Nico, I’d much rather raise the dead and hide in hell than doing that) while still being kind of scared of him but wanting to be supportive and seeing how this child fucking needs therapy !! I can’t wait for Nico to finally feel like he belongs (which he would have with Leo!!!!). Nico x Hazel has my heart, their dynamic is just so fucking sweet, like even though she doesn’t totally understands him because he still keeps her at arm lenghts, you can see she loves her brother so much and it’s clear it is mutual. Like forehead kiss my heart (forehead kisses are a weakness of mine) !!!! The scene of him and Frank sharing their interest about Mythomagic was so pure and broke my heart at the same time, I mean like Percy said he’s not that little kid insouciant kid anymore :( (also props to Percy for not being an ass to him which doesn’t really happen often). Anyway I LOVED seeing more of him. He’s such a great and interesting character and i love him so much. Also of course, like always, he was a total badass and I have to asmit, even though I want him to belong, it was kind of amusing how this scrowny, pale and needy of sleep 14 years old terrified the all powerful demi gods on the ship (well ok he is the most powerful of them all but still). His vibe is just that good. But I really want him to have this someone who manages to make him slow down his walls, you know? (even if it’s not Leo snif).

So that was it. I don’t know it that’s ineresting for anyone but I like to vent so ^^

My reviews for :

The Lost Hero; Son of Neptune; the Mark of Athena

#house of hades #pjo #valdangelo #heroes of olympus #hoo #hoh #my pjo review

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pastelwitchling · 4 years

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Finally finished rereading The House of Hades, and I just wanted to post my rating this time around, and some of my thoughts:

Five stars. The first time I read this book around five years ago (I think?), it was my least favorite. I didn’t care what the group was doing without Percy there, and the Tartarus parts dragged on. This time, and I didn’t think I’d say this, but The House of Hades, so far, is probably my favorite in the Heroes of Olympus series (so far, I remember The Blood of Olympus being my absolute favorite, so there’s still that to get to). I enjoyed it that much. The Tartarus scenes were the scenes I looked forward to because I just wanted to see Percy, I’m so happy Nico was part of the team and more involved, and even Hazel and Frank grew on me.

Nico. I cried like a baby during his scene with Cupid and Jason, and... there are no words. He’s my precious everything, and I just want him and Percy to have a series all to themselves.

I cried and laughed so many times. When Annabeth and Percy finally made it out? I sobbed with relief. Never again, Tartarus. Never again.

I was lucky enough that the edition that I have included a short story at the end called, The Sword of Hades, from Percy Jackson and the Olympians: The Demigod Files, and it is about Percy, Thalia, and Nico going on a quest, and it was set in the time of the original series, and it was everything I could’ve ever hoped for and more. If Uncle Rick ever wants to create a series with those three as the focus, the children of the Big Three, I would never stop crying of sheer joy. Just putting that into the universe.

#rin reads #heroes of olympus #the house of hades #the house of hades spoilers

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couldnt-think-of-a-funny-name · 6 years

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Reasons To Love Jason Grace, in no particular order

was literally raised by wolves and yet still managed to be The Most Polite Boy In The World

hadn’t formally met Apollo but knew they were technically brothers so he still stuck his neck out for him

lost his glasses on the top of his head all the time

when he was trying to relay information to the group but kept getting distracted by how hot his girlfriend was to the point he had trouble forming sentences

when he grew his hair out and started tugging at it whenever he got stressed so it was always sticking up in a million directions

when he was reading that informational pamphlet on Hercules’ island and was so interested in it that he walked straight into a tree

got stabbed through the gut and the literal first words out of his mouth after were ‘I finally stayed conscious for a whole battle’

when he was fighting with the werewolves and he knew his sword wasn’t gonna work so he deadass got on all fours and started growling like he was literally about to go head-to-head teeth-to-teeth with those wolves omfg

when he got caught in that net trap the dwarves set up and he’s hanging upside down and Leo goes forward to cut him out and he was literally like ‘no, Leo, go on with out me, I’m done, do not cut me out of this net, I genuinely want you to leave me here to die, please leave, I really just need a moment alone right now’ asdfghjkl

when he was too busy having A Moment(tm) with a batch of brownies and a jar of homemade peach jam to focus on the merpeople’s warning

when he was getting attacked by his former Camp Jupiter friends and every time he shocked or hit one of them he personally apologized

“I’m breathing Dylan?!?!”

when he didn’t remember that he could fly but instinctively threw himself over the railing at the grand canyon to save Piper anyway and as he was falling he was like ‘well at least this is probably noble and cool or whatever’

his definition of teenage rebellion was stargazing on the roof of his own cabin

when he got so close to telling Zeus to go fuck himself that even Percy was like ‘w h a t a r e y o u d o i n g’

he knew Leo so well that by simply looking at what Leo was drinking he was able to figure out the boy was upset about something

he knew Piper was upset that her memory of their first kiss wasn’t real so he tried to recreate it for her

when everyone told him not to join his legion bc it was the worst and he was like ‘then I’ll make it the best’

he and Reyna used to geek out over history together and had a whole future itinerary written up

when he somehow had enough patience to deal with that wind god for like 2 weeks without once trying to strangle him...icon

“Thank you, General Eisenhower!” the snark....

canonically had to hug people whenever he got excited

the stapler incident(tm)

the fact that he never really wanted to be a leader but always took the job without complaint because he knew that’s what people wanted from him

when he made the MOST dramatic entrance of all time in that tower- lightning, flying, winds, yelling, the whole shebang- only to discover Leo had already defeated the dwarves and he was like. oh.

swore to never drink alcohol after Thalia told him about their mother

briefly thought turning into a tree was somehow a puberty thing for children of Zeus and was terrified

the whole scene with Nico and Cupid

when he made that huge lightning bolt to kill all the guards attacking them and Apollo was like ‘well there goes the element of surprise’ and he was just like ‘sorry I got a little over excited’ asdfgb

when Percy got out of Tartarus and Jason just yelled out a relieved and emotional ‘DUDE!’ and gave him a bear hug

he didn’t know when his own birthday was for sixteen years someone please hold me

the fact that people at Camp Jupiter apparently made ‘Our Saving Grace(tm)’ jokes often enough that he was annoyed by it even when he had amnesia

when Piper fell asleep on him during their first quest and he just looked at Leo like ‘Are you seeing this??? This is happening???? What do I Do???’

all the head injuries.....we love a clumsy bitch

his first appearance in the series he had amnesia and his last words was ‘Remember!’....the absolute drama.....

didn’t he wear like fucking dress shoes or something into the big battle with all the giants at the Parthenon

the action figures

searched for Leo for months before Chiron literally made him stop and enroll in school

his favorite color was purple

that little speech he always did when he wanted to intimidate someone like remember he’d use the winds to make him taller than whoever he was fighting and got all ‘I TOPPLED THE BLACK THRONE OF KRONOS AND FUCKED KRIOS UP REAL BAD AND THAT SEA MONSTER WAS A PUNK BITCH-’ like remember

trusted Nico enough to drink poison

made Frank praetor

was so incredibly dedicated to getting recognition for all the gods so history wouldn’t repeat itself

he made a fucking diorama guys it was so cute

was completely respectful of Piper’s decision to break up even though he didn’t have any second thoughts in the relationship and a love god literally told him they were soul mates

when he had an identity crisis over the Roman camp or the Greek camp but decided he could be both(tm)

listen Jason Grace was the sweetest, most dramatic nerd of a hero out there and I.....miss......him......

#Jason grace #hoo #toa #rick riordan #asks #molly mumbles #his birthday....approaches #help me #lol

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maeumsim · 4 years

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my thoughts on house of hades by rick riordan :

UGHHH THIS WAS SO GOODDDD

it’s been a while since i last read a rick riordan book but im so glad i picked this one up

i finished in less than two days (that was great for my confidence)

it was so funny!!!! like i lov reading abt teenagers saying stupid shit!!!!

i luv leo valdez,,,, adhd gang!!

i cried during the chapter with cupid like i fucking knew nico was gay but that he was in love with percy???? it crossed my mind once or twice but when it was confirmed i just screamedd im so sad for him if he doesn’t get a bf im gonna be so mad

(jason trying to comfort him was soo funny like ok straight dude i know ur trying to be nice but it’s not working)

the action scenes r so fun and make me feel really energized everytime, i luv the pace of the story in general like rick riordan never writes anything boring

i actually care abt all the characters, even jason sjvfhgbdk we get to see their flaws, their mistakes and i absolutely love all of them (especially nico, annabeth, PERCY, hazel and leo)

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i wish we got to see more of piper :(( i feel like she had less of a role in this one (i love that she finally learnt how to sword fight)

i also cried when hazel saw her father like that was sooo fucking sad and in general all the demi gods have difficult relationships with their parents (for obvious reasons) and i can relate to having an absent father sjvhbkgbd

as for the plot,,, i could guess what would happen like half the time but i still enjoyed the book a lot and it’s one of my fave series

i already downloaded the last book in the series so im gonna read it asap hehe

i want a sword. i really want a sword and i want to fight monsters with a group of friends.

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Solangelo Thoughts and Nico's Confession To Percy

Not Edited. Okay, I ship Solangelo. It's kind of hard not to, but if you don't, I get it. Like many people, my issue is that it doesn't seem realistic. We all wanted Nico to be happy, and so did Rick Riordan, but I don't understand how he decided 'six months is definitely a good amount of time for Nico to open up, befriend Will, become open about his sexuality, get into a relationship with someone who isn't afraid of it being known...' was actually plausible. I just don't see it. Solangelo seems like a great idea but COME ON, it's NICO. Nico wants to be happy but you can't just fix all his problems with a snap of your fingers. I think it would be insanely more appropriate if Solangelo wasn't actually canon yet. Like, maybe Nico and Will have a thing for each other, maybe it's been extremely hinted at, but in no way would Nico have recovered so much that he's dating Will and everyone just knows and Nico doesn't even flinch at the fact that everyone knows, Also, the scene when Nico tells Percy about his crush. Nu uh. It's cute, it's like, 'Go Nico' and you probably felt like how Annabeth is described, just smiling a ton, but I feel like there should have been a talk, you know? Or at least a suggestion of 'we'll talk about this later' because while not all crushes need to be explained or have such importance (we don't need Rachel, for example, to explain her attraction to Percy because except for Annabeth's jealousy, it isn't really an issue), this one does. Nico's crush? Hella important. And I don't even use the word 'hella'. I mean, Percy is probably seeing a third dimension to every interaction Nico and him have had. Well, maybe not every, but a lot. Because even thing I don't think Rick Riordan planned to make Nico homosexual originally, it really gives a different air to a lot of the scenes in PJO. I also think Percy would realize that he didn't do well by Nico. I'm going to post about that in just a bit, so yeah. Back to Solangelo: I want to see Nico and Will becoming friends. I want Nico to be able to refer to Will as 'one of his best friends' and for them to both be super happy that Nico can say that. I want the underlying affection in gestures that screams they like each other but that they aren't ready to step into that whole mess quite yet. This would, in truth, probably take a year, maybe more, because of who Nico is. And I understand that Nico became fast friends with Reyna, but that worked. I haven't seen a single person doubt that Reyna and Nico's friendship was awesome. The circumstances, the problems they had at the time, their quest, their personalities, it all worked SO well. That, I feel, is realistic, because even if they didn't have such a long time, it seems pretty much fated that they get along. They needed each other. When it comes to romance, Nico first needs a friend, not a nearly immediate partner (which is why I hate Three Days in the Infirmary fics when they get together those three days, like, wth). I like the whole Nico and Jason connection, although tell me not, you probably felt super awkward when you read the Cupid Reveal scene and Jason's just there, and Jason didn't even trust Nico beforehand even if he was thinking 'poor Nico, I wonder how he managed' thoughts during the scene. It's weird. But Jason is pretty good at showing he cares and that would totally work with Nico and becoming friends, given more time. So yeah. I think that if Rick Riordan were to make side book for The Heroes of Olympus there should be some Nico-Centric stuff, because he's a really interesting character. Probably something about Nico and Will being friends, the bond between Reyna and Nico, and a talk between Nico and Percy.

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thelonelyrdr-blog · 7 years

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Thoughts on the Heroes of Olympus series (Part 2)

As promised, see below (God, I’ve written way too many work emails) for the continuation of my review of Rick Riordan’s Heroes of Olympus series! (Look out for big, bad SPOILERS!) The House of Hades Ah, the revelation of Nico’s crush on Percy, which was half the reason I wanted to read this series, to be honest, comes at last! What I enjoyed most about it was Jason’s reaction. Part of the reason that Nico keeps his distance from other people is that he fears that they won’t accept him. As a son of Hades, he has already experienced being ostracized because his differences make others uncomfortable, so why wouldn't he expect the same response to his homosexuality, especially because, as Riodan later points out, he was born in the more socially conservative 1930s? During Nico's encounter with Cupid, though, Riordan demonstrates both the strength of the young heroes' loyalty to one another and the principle that “love is love" without having to preach. The latter, in particular, becomes evident when Cupid gives Jason the opportunity to feel the agony of Nico's unrequited love for Percy and he immediately understands and empathizes with his pain. Nico's love isn't some foreign emotion merely because he's a teenage boy in love with another boy instead of a girl; Jason gets it, and he gets Nico in a way that he didn't before, leading him to develop an almost big-brother-like protectiveness of him that persists throughout the remainder of the series. Brilliant, as is Riordan's portrayal of Cupid - and therefore love - as more unfair and unkind even than death. I love (ha) that a character depicted as infantile in our culture is such a harsh adversary here. Which relates to another point I'd like to make about the characterization of Piper and the other Aphrodite kids. I want to give so many kudos to Riordan for addressing the monsters' and other demigods' dismissal of the Aphrodite kids in this book. To me, devaluing love and beauty equates with devaluing the feminine, as love and beauty are typically considered feminine. The same can be said of acting according to instinct rather than logic. But Piper saves the day using nothing but heart in not one, but three epic scenes: the one with Jason and Percy in the Nymphaeum in Rome; the one with the Boreads on the Argo II; and, finally, the one with Annabeth at the shrine of Phobos and Deimos in Sparta. The first two gave me chills (the chills may also have been caused by the air conditioning on my train, but I choose to attribute them to Riordan's writing). Even without these scenes, though, Piper proves so incredibly useful to the quest even before Hazel teaches her to fight - hello, her charmspeak, similar to feminine empathy in how it operates - that her contributions completely invalidate any symbolically sexist prejudices against Aphrodite kids. As with Nico's homosexuality, Riordan shows rather than tells the ridiculousness of these prejudices; and, as with Nico's homosexuality, it is suggested that the other characters' mockery of Piper stems from their fear of her uniqueness, because it makes her powerful. The implication being, of course, that our differences make us unique and therefore powerful. Talk about an inspiring message for kids. Aphrodite makes this suggestion, by the way, and with the exception of maybe Hades, she's the best damn parent of all of the gods. Just saying. On a related note, I also appreciated the friendships between the girls in this series, particularly the one between Piper and Annabeth. In addition to the fact that there is a dearth of well-executed female friendships in children's (hell, all) literature - both the Harry Potter series and the original Percy Jackson series suffer from this flaw - their friendship is important because it illustrates that both emotion and logic can be vital to decision-making and the successful completion of a task. The above ties in with Riordan’s defense of Aphrodite and the feminine too. Wrapping up, I feel the need to comment a bit on Percy and Annabeth's journey through Tartarus because 1) I alluded to the fact that I would in my previous blog post and 2) it comprises a significant portion of the book. First, I loved the oppressiveness of the place, and the sense that Percy and Annabeth had that every part of it was designed to kill them and working hard to do so. I wasn't scared for them - the plot armor in this series is impenetrable - but at times I did feel...uncomfortable? Tense or anxious, maybe? My anxiousness was never more intense, though, than when Percy (SPOILERS ahead, for Avatar: The Last Airbender too - not as random as it sounds, I promise) tries to drown Akhlys in her own tears. I'm a huge fan of the dark and gritty in children's media, and this scene delivered. It almost reminded me of the bloodbending episode of Avatar: The Last Airbender, which I consider one of the best, except that unlike Percy, Katara does not feel a rush of pleasure and power while bloodbending. Though she is forced to bloodbend to protect Sokka and Aang from Hama, the act repulses her. Percy, on the other hand, doesn't stop his attack on Akhlys until he perceives Annabeth's terror, and even then, it’s only reluctantly. He doesn't seem all that remorseful for his behavior either. I never fully realized, until this scene, how fragile Percy's status as a hero is, to what extent his goodness hinges on his connection to his friends - Annabeth, most of all - and the impulse control that it affords him. I understood, when I finished reading it, why Percy makes other demigods wary. As an aside, if anyone knows of any good Dark!Percy fanfics, please feel free to recommend them to me. I'm sick, guys, I know. So that you don't think the darkness inside of me rivals Percy's, note that my favorite characters in Tartarus were Bob (not Iapetus; they're different) and Damasen. I have a soft spot for redeemed villains, or, in this case, villains who don't want to be villains. They have to be logically written though (Once Upon a Time writers, if you insist on keeping the show on the air, take several notebooks' worth of notes). I'll conclude here, because I wrote "too much" (i.e. too much for maximum reader engagement, I'm assuming) again. Oops? Stay tuned for The Blood of Olympus and (hopefully) my closing remarks next time!

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