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romanticizingmurder · 2 years
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The Absurdly Long Jason Comics Post
This is all personal! I’m not claiming what’s canon or not and I’m not the final judge for anything - this is just what I like and what I don’t! Also this generally isn’t talking about the overall quality of the comics and the writing unless I specifically mention it, just how I feel about Jason in them. So....recs and unrecs, I guess, under the cut! I mostly just cover the well known ones, maybe one day I’ll do the less well known or really short ones.
Foundations:
These are what I personally view as the base of Jason characterization, this is the basics of what I’m going to use to gauge future characterization and where I get some fundamental character characteristics from. 
Robin Years (Detective Comics #568-#582, Batman #408-#426, The Cult) 
Robin Jason is the bedrock foundation of all Jason for me. When I think about post-resurrection characterizations of him, my primary concern is “Does this make sense as a progression from Robin Jason? Is this a person he could concievably become after x event?” If the answer is no? I’m out! 
Important character takeaways for me here are: Violently upset by abuse, strong desire to punish people who hurt women, experience with an addict mother, a father who turned to crime, and himself turning to theft to survive, very empathetic.
Under the Red Hood
🎵the boy is back in town 🎵
Bruce’s characterization here is shaky
narratively, this story is gorgeous. this is a greek tragedy in a comic.
the scene where he beats the joker is the most pure and cathartic expression of a victim’s rage i’ve ever seen. this is a comic about coming back from trauma screaming and vicious and demanding blood.
that said? the things he does here can be rough to square with his later character developments and i do think parts of this are best just accepted as a thing that happened that won’t ever be addressed because they decided they didn’t want to go with that character direction.
A-Listers
These are things outside of what I consider foundational that I think are Excellent.
Lost Days
This doesn't get put in foundational because it actually came out 5 years after UTRH but it's one of my favorite Jason comics. I wrote a whole post on how I think this tackles the subject of Jason & killing better than any other comic.
Task Force Z:
I went into TFZ knowing nothing about it except the concept and expected it to be awful and instead it became my favorite Jason characterization of recent comics.
I'm really grateful that Rosenberg is pushing back against the narrative that Jason died being reckless and is presenting Jason as competent and highly skilled - which he should be! The idea that *any* former Robin wouldn't be an excellent detective and fighter is just absurd, even if we don't take Jason's own history into account.
That I said really strongly dislike having Jason say he wants to do better than just street vigilante work. I think I don't mind the idea they were going for here? Like I think they were trying to echo Jason's frustration at how cyclical and futile all their work is? But it's worded So poorly and I think Jason should always fiercely love Gotham, the city that made him and killed him and brought him back.
Jason as a smart fighter! Built like a tank but agile as a gymnast and smart as hell, that's my man.
He chokes someone with his thighs, what more do you want?
Robin 80th Anniversary Special
Fun fact this is actually my hands down favorite thing written about Jason ever.
The way Robin Jay and current Jason are tied together. The melancholy fondness, Bruce and Jason loving each other but there still being a gulf between them.
It's very short, I don't have a lot to say, it's just quiet and fragile snapshot of two people who love each other deeply, even after all this time and all this pain and a distance that seems insurmountable.
RHATO Rebirth 1-11ish
Look. Lobdell is an awful writer and horrible person. He is a sexual predator and it does show in his writing of women.
Most of RHATO is garbage and not even the fun kind. The early issues of rebirth are, somehow, genuinely good despite all that.
Jason showing his love for Gotham! Jason being caring and gentle with Bizzaro! Jason's immediate ride or die loyalty (some fatal flaws continue even after death, huh, Jay?). Jason having severe and vivid flashbacks and hallucinations of his death and himself as Robin!
Also the premise of the initial arc of this one makes more sense to me as something Jason might do than most other outlaw plots, like Jason knows Black Mask is planning something and is worried about it - that makes sense for Red Hood to investigate. Jason is actually showing....concern for his city, which is a good thing. 
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WFA
The thing about WFA, for me, is you cannot go into it expecting normal comics characterization.
I view WFA as like the comics where everyone gets turned into kids. You know going in this is meant to be lighthearted and will remain so even at the cost of characterization.
And honestly? I don't think it does that bad of a job. This isn't my Jason but this is a person I could see Jason becoming if the world had been kinder to him and the other bats.
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Titan Tower
My view of this issue is very negatively influenced by how it has Raven trash Robin Jason as “always wanting to be the best” in the same issue after the attack, when Jason’s time in the Titans in canon was him being incredibly empathetic and mature for his age, and actually admitting that he was too young to lead them when Donna tried to make him. 
The thing about it is I don't think "Jason being an ass to Tim" is ooc it's just this specific bizarre situation? Why does Jason suddenly care about Tim, specifically, when all his anger has been at Bruce before this? 
The most out of character thing here though is that they gave his Robin costume pants. I know my man is brave enough to rock the scaly panties again.
Brothers in Blood
I think my hottest take in this post is putting this one higher than "no" but like hear me out!
I really like that this shows Jason and Dick both saving each other and despite everything genuinely have some? Strange bond? And it think it's cute.
I also appreciate how differently Dick reacts to Jason killing and I think this is one of the more realistic reactions he could have. He doesn't try to engage Jason about the actual killing as much as it's effects - Jason killed a kidnapper in front of a child, probably traumatizing her, and he's damaged Nightwing's reputation and Dick is rightfully pissed about it.
Speaking of. Why is he dressed as Nightwing. Did he get a two for one costume deal when he was commissioning his adult sized robin one? There's never a good answer given for this one. Even if he didn't want to bring back Red Hood as his persona at the time, surely they don't expect us to believe he's so uncreative he can't think up a temporary identity. If he was actually shown to *want* to ruin Dick's reputation, that might be a reason. But he doesn't seem to hold any ill will towards Dick here so it's just ????
Even worse, though, is that he makes some creepy comments to Cheyenne. That's something I find unforgivable in a Jason characterization. Make him mean, make him cruel, make him a callous asshole - but nothing about his Robin years shows us a boy who would grow up to be disrespectful of women. Robin Jason would punch this Jason.
Seriously though why the tentacles.
RHATO (nu52)
Kori we're gonna get you out of there
I do like the little flashback of sick Jason staying home with Bruce. That’s it.
RHATO rebirth 12ish-end
I know everyone focuses on how brutal Bruce is with his son in #25, and that's absolutely fair, but frankly I think this is just beyond the pale for what Bruce should or would do to *anyone* in this situation like I think even movie and game Bruces would look at him here and say he's being a bit much.
We aren't touching that weird abuse apologism Willis storyline with a 10ft pole.
Urban Legends: Cheer
I would honestly take a villainous and his own code of ethics breaking but competent Jason over this dumb brute shit Zdarsky feeds us.
Jason killing while emotional I can believe. Jason "took over a crime empire and bought out part of WE at 18 and fresh from the grave" Todd suddenly unable to track down a drug without harassing addicts I cannot.
Jason is a good detective. Jason is someone who plans things meticulously. This is not Jason.
What is with the Robin Jason and guns flashback. Does Zdarsky think guns operate using some sort of psychological curse upon their user, and Jason was infected and became obsessed? I can only assume that because otherwise there's no reason for this section.
10 year old Jason apparently murdering someone? Does Zdarsky walk around poor areas worrying about getting merced by traumatized grade schoolers?
Jason works as an interesting character because he should be presenting and embodying an actual moral conundrum but the morals in this storyline are so vapid and shallow that Zdarsky can't actually have a well written Jason.
The plot makes no sense because the kid couldn't have gone home with his father either way so making it into "but now he's Jason's responsibility" is SILLY okay okay deep breaths I'm done
NO:
These are comics I will under no circumstance consider as in character. I don't count them as canon. I don't take them into account when I write meta. They may as well not exist to me.
Battle for the Cowl
This is a just travesty for everyone involved, not only Jason. Jason going on a murderous rampage. Jason shoots Damian. Bad for everyone, bad for Jason, terrible story, let's all pretend this was a fever dream.
Hey at least Jason is presented as relatively skilled though.
Robin Vol. 2 
Jason "no selling to kids or you go in the duffel bag" "killed his teacher for using child soldiers" Todd is going to condone using the "child gangs" of Gotham? No. Absolutely not. Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
Batman & Robin (Morrison)
Why is his hair red. Why would he try to kill Dick or Damian. Why would he poison the prison's food supply. What's with the helmet. Why does he strip Dick & Damian. Winnick tries to salvage the last two issues with him in this run but there was nothing to save in this hideous ooc mess. If I thought this was what Jason was like, I wouldn't like him either.
The idea of Bruce making Jason dye his hair just to get a blonde and a girl Robin later is a hilarious concept though like maybe I’d become a mass murdering maniac too if I found out I did all that and he just let it drop later. 
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furiousfinnstan · 2 years
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@explosionshark i know u said to talk abt the shit i liked but im insane abt comics/webcomics right now so heres a list of everything i read the good shit will be bolded lmao 
1.continued reading the life is strange comics and honestly they must have gotten real boring because i legit cant remember what the fuck happened in strings besides (redacted) still (redacted) so yeah idk the older issues were pretty decent check those out if u havent and see how u feel 
grade:F+ i guess?(the plus is for the mostly fine ish art)
2.saga is back from the war!but im not back to it because readcomicsonline just stopped posting them?idk if there is a new hiatus or what but theres is still nothing on there past issues 56 i believe-anyways a shaky start to a new volume but i had a good time love love the art as always and im intrigued to see where it goes so if u are in the mood for sci fi give it a shot.
grade:B
3.read a bunch of old avengers shit just to see nebula,pretty funny cheesy content also good monica content(rip mcu version of her)anyways tell me if u want to know the exact ones i read i was too lazy to put them all up here.
grade:B+
4.again yes i  was reading it solely for nebula  ok so great art great concept and a solid beginning but after the second half shit got sloppy,also i think comic typical cheesiness of that time worked against this story unlike in the avengers where it kinda flowed with and enhanced it,
grade:D+(actually more of a C- but i hate the ending and there was too much doctor strange so<3)
5.i reallyyy wanted to like this because i love the premise but so far i got nothing else to say except cool fight scenes,the dialogue is a wonky and that a care abt the side characters more then the lead.tho from the stuff ive seen i think this story turns into a more of a ensemble cast later on?which thank god im bored of him 
grade:C+
6.love hard lacquer its my best friend my confidant my babygirl my lover-
grade: A+ im not telling u anything abt it except that its abt lesbian spies <3
7.listen listen i did not make it too far into the webcomic to have a lot of opinions on it but i adore the art,the artist,the idea etc etc so im betting its gonna be great in the long run but be warned that im um obvs biased 
grade:B
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kythwena · 2 years
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DEAR. DOOR - Episode 123
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laboratoryrats · 3 months
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Note to Self - Speaking without Words with Word Balloons
Word gallons are for more than just words. They can be used to emphasis and even add emotions and to a scene
Feeling dizzy? About to pass out?
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A lilting playful swirl (Time and Time Again by Deo I)
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The white and black of the text has been replaced with a sinister black and the words are off tilter (Sword Interval by Benjamin Fleuter)
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The voice is coming from a place deeper and more unsettling and the text is uneven and handwritten
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A dismissive comment literally (metaphorically) stabs someone (Marionetta by Míriam Bonastre Tur)
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Being interrupted before finishing what is being said
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A withering and icy reply (The Secrets of Soulford by the Quincil)
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Wobbly uncertain bubbles that even break apart in some parts from dizziness (The Blind Prince by cozycroww)
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Pain almost appears to be breaking the usually round bubble into uneven and broken balloons. The little smaller balloons around it are reminiscent of sweat or tears (Heir’s Game by suspu)
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irn-bru · 3 months
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my genuine reaction watching batman beat the ever loving fuck out of Jason in under the red hood when the only other batfam media I know is wayne family adventures
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plumbum-art · 5 months
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@actual-changeling wrote the fic moonlight on your lips (i'll be gone by dawn) and answered the question: wtf happened 1941 between the ineffable idiots, that likely prompted Az famous "you go too fast for me?".
As it happens I have a comic WIP with a very similar plot, which is lurking in my drafts for a while now. I don't know if I will ever finish the comic, so I decided to post the raw WIP instead (long post).
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nowwheresmynut · 5 months
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Edgeworth investigates Phoenix and Maya's disappearance. Hope you enjoy these. If you want more of maya's polaroids you can go here.
A prequel of sorts inspired by Room Service by @oodlyenough
Bonus:
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ammdakin · 12 days
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No, sir. Definitely not.
(Quote Source: Parks and rec)
p.7 of my silly OFMD fanarts 🏴‍☠️💕
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turtleinsoup · 7 months
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based on this: https://www.tumblr.com/carnival-phantasm/731016312565956608/this-should-have-been-in-kingdom-hearts?source=share
(inspired by @nonbayanary :D <3)
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sisaloofafump · 4 months
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I want to see more superbat fics that incorporate their canonical* ways of approaching romantic relationships. I want to see a Bruce like the one who impulse proposed to Selina on a rooftop without sparing a thought to their “work” statuses or what a domestic future together would truly look like. I want to see him across from the same Clark that for decades did not allow himself an official, truthful, or committed relationship with Lois (or Lana) because of his paranoia and fear around identities and bringing them into further harm’s way.
So often in fics, Bruce is painted as the one overanalyzing every potential outcome, hiding his romantic approaches behind layers of masks and secret identities, any denying himself a relationship on the smallest of technicalities—but it’s Clark who tried that for years.
So often in fics, Clark is written as the one to take the leap, to enter relationships with deep hope and trust and commitment—when Bruce has had his heart broken by this too many times in the past.
The way their relationships are commonly written mimic their modern friendship’s development—it is in no way out of character—but I would love to see more that is based on their romantic styles, not just platonic.
*(obligatory disclaimer that this is a mass generalization of some canon and common fanfic depections)
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aseplant · 2 months
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From Natural Satellite by @sixpossumsinatrenchcoat! It's probably my favorite ISAT fic. Sif x toilet paper gone wrong compels me...
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doctorofmagic · 2 years
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Hey there :D Love your blog and all the detailed info you have! It's so cool to see what you're able to find about Strange :D
I wondered if you could recommend a comic that shows his character and/or development really well? And especially where to read it - I usually just buy physical copies or collections but e.g. Nexus of Nightmares is impossible to find (except for Kindle which I don't use ^^°)
Thanks in advance and I hope you have a magical day! ✨
Hello there! Thank you so much for your kindness n.n
Mmmm, okay, this recommendation will come with no surprise but if you haven't read it yet, I'd say Doctor Strange v4 (I KNOW, I ALWAYS RECOMMEND THIS ONE). But truly, Jason Aaron wrote Stephen with such depth and love that we rarely see in other comic book writers, and Bachalo's art is amazing. It's a deep dive into Stephen's depression (both literal and metaphorical) and how he struggles to connect with people and keep a healthy relationship with them while his world is literally dying. The run is from 2015 so you have some good options: physical copies are very common (I have the first printing version myself), it's also on Marvel's app, and you can also check Comixology (not sure if they fixed the app but just in case, double check this one).
I think this is it. You can follow my guide for v4 since it got renumbered at some point, not to mention the Damnation event. And in case you've already read it, hmu again. I'll gladly think of some other story to recommend.
Thank you for passing by!
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kythwena · 2 years
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The Skeleton Soldier Failed to Defend the Dungeon By: Kang Ye-seul, Wolhet, SOSORI, hong suk
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gretahayes · 9 months
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comics fans are so funny. you ask them for a rec/reading list for a character and they give you everything you need to read to be an expert on said character but in the tags or as a sidenote they’ll be like "all of these are horrible writing with shit characterization of everyone else, except for these three select issues, and they’re not even plot relevant at all" like who else is in this kind of hell
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masilvi · 2 years
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Comic commission for @deinde-prandium for the @miraculers-for-ukraine drive, based on their fic “The Clark Kent Effect” 
🌸🌞 BONUS! a discarded sketch because he looks cute!
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incorrectbatfam · 1 month
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Bruce: Why are there six people outside who say they're waiting to meet with me?
Tim: So, you know how you love me because you haven't had a single meeting with anyone since I started working here? That's because every time someone calls and requests a meeting with you, I always schedule it for March 31st.
Bruce: Why?
Tim: Because I didn't think March 31st existed. "Thirty days hath September, April, March, and November..."
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