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#I seriously have no idea how these two became canon lmao
schnuffel-danny · 1 year
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I’m actually obsessed with Skulker/Ember, because it’s like - Either they’re both adults in the 20s-30s age range Or... - Ember really is some 16 year old girl and (because I don’t think they would put an adult/minor relationship in a kids show) that would mean Skulker is also a teenager, which is absolutely hilarious to imagine
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creepylittlelady · 5 months
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wait, I don't understand why fanon Masky is so hated?? /genq (I was never really that interested in him tbh so I only know shit about him.)
OKAY, I can answer this one!
I'm happy that the whole fandom turned around on Fanon Masky recently (at least, I believe it must have been recently considering Cheesecake Masky was a thing before I 'left' the fandom), since that version of him is a bit problematic lol
If you've watched Marble Hornets, then you'll know that Masky and Hoody are REALLY scary (seriously, I had nightmares about Masky for absolute weeks), and work against the Operator. However 'fanon' Masky is a loyal employee of Slenderman/The Operator (I'm gonna make a post addressing the differences one day), and isn't really all that scary?? From what I remember, he was mainly joked about as being the 'Sensible one' of the Proxy trio (Him, Hoody and Toby), who was basically the dude always tired of their bullshit. Not only is this the complete opposite of how Masky is, as he would NEVER work FOR his enemy, who literally ruined his life from childhood, but it also sort of flanderised him and no longer made him scary, which is something the Creepypasta fandom tends to do a lot lmao
Another thing is his sudden change of character design. A lot of old Creepypasta fanart depicting him from 2013-2017 show him with lighter brown hair and a yellow jacket, which isn't what he looks like at all?? Actual Masky has much darker hair and I don't think he's ever seen with that ugly ass highlighter coloured jacket.
There's also the complete change in his body type, definitely one of the most controversial things about Fanon Masky. Let me first say that I do not believe that Tim Sutton (Masky's original actor) is fat, I'm not sure WHERE the old Creepypasta fandom got that idea from. Fandom in general, especially the Creepypasta fandom, is quite 'fatphobic' from my experience. What this basically means is that if you're not a skinny twink you will be body shamed in every way possible. The Creepypasta character market has always been oversaturated with men who basically were twinks, with slim and pale bodies, such as Jeff the Killer.
I believe that making Masky so thin came from the fact that when the Creepypasta fandom really took off around 2013-ish, a lot of Creepypasta fans looked for content and eventually I believe that a lot of them must have stumbled across Marble Hornets. Upon seeing Masky and Hoody, two characters that could have passed off as Creepypasta characters (as most of the other characters in Marble Hornets looked like ordinary people), the fandom probably adopted them and adapted them to 'their tastes', no matter how good they were or not. It might have also been a game of telephone too, as maybe a Creepypasta fan's friend of a friend told them some info about Masky and they misunderstood and instead of who Masky actually was, saw him more as the silly goofy masked guy. And to be honest, I don't think the Creepypasta fandom has ever really been known for actually doing their research, so that misconstrued version of him just became canon in everyones minds.
Not that it was always that innocent though...
One titular thing about fanon Masky was his strange love of Cheesecake. I myself saw a lot of it in 2016 sewed into every bit of content for his character, and was confused on where it came from. Then, I found out that it was meant to be a joke SHAMING him for 'being fat'. I originally stumbled across this for the first time in a satire comic, where one of the panels is Hoody chastising Masky for eating cheesecake, stating that Masky will become fat. The cheesecake joke is one I've seen in some fandoms before, albeit in different ways and with different foods. For the life of me I cannot figure out why everyone decided to associate him with Cheesecake, but everyone just did.
Fanon Masky is a perfect example on how fandoms can flanderise characters to the point where they're unrecognisable; pull up a picture of Masky in the Marble Hornets and then a Masky fanart from 2015. The difference is STAGGERING. The Creepypasta fandom is very much infamous for flanderising characters, such as making Jeff a misunderstood bad boy, Toby a waffles-obsessed manchild, and Masky a Slenderman-loving, Crayons and Paper-having, Toby-hating, Cheesecake-eating twink.
TL;DR: Fanon Masky was made as a shitty misconstrued fat joke.
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aamleh · 2 years
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Mike’s poster and Devilman parallel
Disclaimer: this is not a theory as i am well aware there is nothing implying the topic of said work— i am well aware of the post about its printing date (1967-1972) while Devilman started in 1972 so this is just crack, my mind finding things which correlate to me lmao so don’t take this seriously!!
So, this, is Mike’s poster
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We can see a wizard (probably Will) summoning some sort of dragon/human out of a cauldron. Nothing too fancy, just very gay-coded. And i got to think, that human like creature reminds me of something else.. yes! a demon! And not some random one but him:
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The Devilman (Akira Fudo). What really made me think of it was not only the colors: red, green and yellow, but the fact that a Devilman is a human possessed by a demon but still remains his human heart inside, he’s in total control. Akira is possessed by Amon, a powerful entity, the most dangerous demon in hell. He is human like, strong, tall, buff and his ears looks like the wings we saw in Mike’s poster (he has wings himself if im not mixin the og work with 2018 crybaby)
So, introducing the story, which is pretty interesting
Akira reconnect with Ryo Asuka (Satan), his childhood best friend (as the story goes we learn that it’s not the entire truth so i don’t think it’s important but i find it funny iykwim) who tells him that the world is in great danger as the Underworld (demons) plan to conquer the world and swallow it all (rings a bell?), and the only way to save it is for him to become a devilman. For that, a ritual (sabbath) is necessary— just like the wizard on the poster needed an incantation to summon the demon.
Ryo (Satan) is canonically head over heels for Akira, he has for eternity, Akira is his true love; the author himself confirmed it and there’s like, the proof of it lmao, he is a canonically queer character
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In Devilman Lady, Akira state to Jun Fudo that he in fact loved Ryo too.. Pretty interesting.. considering he is the embodiment of the "devil" something looked upon, feared, loathed..A bit like queer people at that time, don't you think? How they were possessed by evil and all such things, how impure it was
Akira is canonically attracted to women, and Ryo so… bisexual king ?😋
[EDIT] as i recollect memories of what i read in the past, Akira being able to remain still with his human heart is because of Ryo himself, he is his guiding light, he trusts him and loves him, he is his heart. that's where the parallel stops, because after that, they became foes even if their love remains. The only thing that broke them apart was the miscommunication between those two, which is a main problem now for Byler but it will be resolved, in this story? Not so much..
ANYWAY THE THING IS!! What’s interesting is not the story in itself of Devilman but the sub-text
The idea of Devilman was born in an era of war (Vietnam) and was a subtle critique of how vile humans can be, how loathing and fearful they can be of the unknown, of being different, all around the whole story, it shows that no matter what greater evil can swallow this world, the only thing that can destroy it is humanity itself. Because it is revealed and showed that paranoia and fear of the other, the rejection of other being different bc you think they are evil (the devilman) was the downfall of humanity, because they feared demon, they couldn’t understand that some of them were good that could help them restaure the balance, because they are intolerent, they ended up killing each other and vilifying the Devilman. It’s a story about pure madness of the pit of humanity, it’s the worst case scenario, but there is hope for us, lecteurs about how if we continue to eat each other, we will doom ourselves, so we better start understanding and love each other, Rings a bell? Devilman talks in sub text about a lot of taboos and other subjects people want to look upon, frown upon, it’s depicted in a war state in the world cause that’s all we’ll have if we continue in that plane of thinking.
[EDIT] the only true evil in this story is the lack of empathy and understanding as bigotery, kind of reminds us of the core theme of the show. Love has to prevail, Devilman is like at the antipode of ST for this, it shows us the darkest downfall of our world, where love didn’t win, but it can, it always can.
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beevean · 9 months
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Sonadow and Sonudis?
Oh, spicy :P
Sonadow
• when or if I started shipping it.
I think I shipped them during my teens, judging by the plethora of fanart I saved during the years. Or maybe I just liked their aesthetic. I honestly have no idea what attracted me to them...
• my thoughts:
I don't understand it. I don't feel any chemistry between them. I know that the idea is that they're rivals who respect each other, but 1) I don't even feel their rivarly lol, I don't get how is Shadow supposed to be a mirror of Sonic, and 2) I far prefer X/Zero for this :P
• What makes me happy about them:
bonking sonic over the head during the fight with diablon
That one cutscene where Shadow is like "not you again" and Sonic is like "nice to see you too :V". Best interaction in the whole series. More seriously, ShTH has my favorite interpretation of their relationship, even if Sonic feels like he snorted sugar at times.
• What makes me sad about them:
their overpopularity :P
• things done in art/fic that annoys me:
You guessed it, the ukefication of Sonic and the semefication of Shadow. I hate it lmao. Sonic is not super loving and affectionate and bashful and Shadow is not a bastard who secretly crushes on Sonic.
Oh, and the shipbait in official works :)
• things I look for in art/fic:
I actively avoid it. yet it still finds a way.
• Who I’d be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other:
Well, since I prefer Sonamy, that goes without saying :P
I don't ship Shadow romantically with anyone.
• My happily ever after for them:
Nothing, really.
• what is their favorite non-sexual activity?
Getting on each other's nerves :P
Sonudis
• when or if I started shipping it.
I don't remember the chapter, but I'd say halfway through Beyond the Stars, when it became clear that the two were developing a crush on each other.
• my thoughts:
They cute. lol
They have that Sonelise appeal, if that makes sense. Sonic just bonds naturally with quiet, introverted girls, they bring out the best in each other.
• What makes me happy about them:
The very natural chemistry between them, even more impressive due to how... delicate canon/OC ships tend to be.
• What makes me sad about them:
That Trudy is not an official character :(
• things done in art/fic that annoys me:
Since it only exists in a fanfiction, and what I read was excellent, this can't apply lol.
• things I look for in art/fic:
I'll trust Crusher to deliver that good chemistry :P
• Who I’d be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other:
Sonamy again lmao.
And I don't ship Trudy with anyone else.
• My happily ever after for them:
crusher publishing his fic.
• what is their favorite non-sexual activity?
Exploring Viridonia! At Trudy's own pace. And maybe they'd like reading together :>
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becomingpart2 · 1 year
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why do you think cordy ended up being such a better character than caroline? they’re both mean girl characters but i like cordy way better (though i hate c*ngel)
Ohh that is an interesting question. My first instinct is to go with an obvious answer that we usually don't like acknowledging: bias. At least for me I know that played a huge factor. I have no real explanation for why I like certain mean girl characters more than others. Characters like Cordelia, Ruby Mathews from Sex Education or even Jackie from Yellowjackets are all popular mean girls (some more than others) that can grab my interest while others like Regina George invoke PTSD-like responses in me lmao
This ended up being huge so...
Speaking about those two characters in particular, Cordelia and Caroline are similar characters that occupied similar positions in their respective narratives. They also have similar personalities but while both of them are "vain" and have no filter, I think Caroline was always more "vulnerable" and "whiny" than Cordelia. Cordelia didn't show her vulnerability very often; when she did, we viewers were the only ones privy to it. She also didn't put her "failings" on anyone's account, the times she did accuse anyone, it was often Buffy, but those accusations were always so ridiculous that it was hard to take it seriously. I don't think they were ever to be taken seriously. And that's one of the things that made her more "palatable", imo, the obvious humorous tone in the way she acted and the things she said. I know people that do take her seriously and don't like her for those very reasons but honestly I never could. I think those things made her a fun character to have around.
Caroline, on the other hand, was meant to be taken seriously at least to some extent. We were supposed to empathize with her struggles living in Elena's shadow. So I think that's one of the main differences between them that could make people like one more than the other.
Even after both of them become "rehabilitated" by their narratives, I can still see Cordelia taking a more independent, leadership role in ATS; she often challanged Angel's ideas, she fought for respect when she felt she wasn't getting much from him, and she basically had her own life separated from him. When cangel started being a thing, there wasn't any manipulative 'uwu poor me' tactics from any party to get with the other, which is a big thing for me.
Caroline's independent phase didn't last longer than S3. Her character became very man-focused after that: a Stefan cheerleader in S4; then she was possessive and jealous of him when they weren't even a thing in S5; then there was the whole manipulative, guilt-tripping story in S6*. Her story with Klaus also didn't help her image and made her look like a big hypocrite in relation to everything she stood for and relentlessly preached (not to mention how unfair she was to Tyler through it all). It didn't help that both fandom and show seem to hold her to such a high level, almost as the protagonist of the show who could do no wrong while the actual protagonist was so relegated and shitted on.
One thing one could say Caroline had over Cordelia is that she got to be a more complicated (?), successful (??) character in the end. Cordelia suffered a lot from the misogyny in ATS, while Caroline kinda thrived on it.
But ANYWAY lol I think those are a few reasons that make Cordelia be a much more likeable character to me. Some of these are flat-out my own bias, some others have some canon justification (but still, rely on my bias in some extent) lol
*I didn't watch S7 or S8, so I can't speak for those.
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angelhotchner · 3 years
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It’s already Sunday for youuuu, so Sunday prompt request: Second Chance Trope with the “shut up and kiss me already” speech prompt. (Only if you want to 💕)
Also smooches for Marley 😘
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smoochies <3!! Okay so I do have a one shot similar to this idea called Way Back When so I'm gonna try and avoid replicating that <3
Happy Sunday Linds, you gorgeous lil creature!
Marley’s Prompt Sunday Masterlist
Speech Prompt 2: "Shut up and kiss me" Contents: Fluff, Pining, Lil Bit of Heartbreak Pairing / Characters: Aaron Hotchner, Fem!Reader Format: Drabble CM Timeline: Non-canon - Haley and Jack aren't present within this universe. Word Count: 2470
[ok so this became a little long for a drabble, don't @ me lmao]
It was March when you first saw him. He was just a glimpse in the corner of your eye, possibly the nostalgic feeling that you'd been succumbing to playing tricks on you. You were locked in a conversation with Agent Thompson, as he gave you a tour of the offices, and felt it rude to break eye contact with him - so you'd been forced to let the glimpse remain just that, never turning your head to try and confirm your thought.
In April, your thought was confirmed true. Your transfer to Organised Crime in the Quantico office had gone through and your first day was a mass of paperwork, with Thompson lingering around your desk every ten minutes. He was over-welcoming, which was nice in a way, but the constant asking of 'Do you need anything?' was starting to wear your patience thin. You asked him for tea, just to get him out of your hair for a little while. He wandered over to his desk and picked up the phone.
"Hey, it's Thompson," He said, and your head snapped up. Was this man seriously calling someone to make you a tea? "Do you still have those tea bags?"
He nodded as he listened to the voice on the phone, as if the other person could see him, before he called over to you.
"What kind?"
"Any,"
He returned back to the phone. "I'll come and grab it now. Tell Garcia I said thank you. Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Hotch,"
And just like that, as Thompson purposefully strode to the elevator, it was confirmed. There was only one Hotch. Aaron Hotchner. Your ex was in the same building as you.
He didn't see you in person until June. Whether he'd heard of your transfer, you didn't know, but judging by the small surprise hidden within his expression when you locked eyes, it seemed like he had no idea that you'd been working in the same building as him for the past two months. Of course, it happened in the elevator. You'd arrived earlier than usual, determined to catch up on reports that you should have filed yesterday. You were on the ground floor, waiting for the elevator, flicking through a file that you held in your hands, trying to bring your tired mind up to speed with your current case work. You heard the doors open, and you didn't glance up for a moment in aid of finishing the sentence you were reading. You felt someone in front of you and you looked up, allowing them to pass by out of the elevator. And that's when you locked eyes with him and saw his surprise, even if it was only minor. You didn't say anything and neither did he. Both of you were speechless - small talk didn't seem fitting, given how the relationship had ended, and 6:15am was not the time to ask all the questions that both of you had kept for years. He just glided past you, and you went into the elevator, trying to shake off the feeling.
You saw him more often since that day. Sometimes ahead of you in the security queue on the ground floor, sometimes leaving the gym in the basement as you were entering. Neither of you ever said a word, you didn't even look at each other. But with seeing him more often came the pining - the memories of your relationship, almost in another life at this point, would resurface in the most unexpected moments, and they'd plague you when you tried to sleep at night. Thankfully, your brain ignored the memories of the final month of the relationship, where everything went downhill - you really didn't want those memories to resurface, because with that would come that guilty feeling again.
In September, you spoke to him. It was only a few words. You'd stayed behind after work, later than you'd ever done, to finish everything before the weekend hit. It was a rare weekend off for you, and you didn't want to waste it by thinking about unfinished work. You sighed in the elevator, scrolling through your phone, as it stopped on the floor below yours. You offered him a small smile when the doors opened and his tired face met yours, and you stepped to the side, giving him as much room as possible. The elevator was silent as it brought you both down to the ground floor. When the doors opened, you noticed his hand reach out, motioning for you to exit first. "Good night, Aaron," You spoke softly as you left, taking off towards the doors and disappearing outside before he could say anything back.
Then came the incident in November. It was late, again, and you were running on almost nothing, the exhaustion creeping into your bones as you sank into the driver's seat of your car. Your mind drifted to the idea of a hot bath when you got home, with lots of bubbles. Relaxation at it's finest. The sound of your car engine spluttering in refusal snapped you out of your daydream. You repeatedly tried the ignition, but the car was stubborn and made sure that you knew that it wasn't going to start. Cursing, you stepped out of the car and leaned against the door, closing your eyes and trying to regain composure.
"Do you need a ride?"
You almost scoffed at the sheer audacity of the universe for placing Aaron a few parking spaces away from you, watching you as he held the passenger door of his car open. You were exhausted and didn't even think when you nodded, trailing your bag behind you as you sat down in his car.
He started the car but didn't begin to drive, a long pause of silence settling in.
"I don't know where you live," He admitted, almost sheepishly. You offered him a watery smile, telling him your address as he began to drive out of the parking lot.
Neither of you said another word until he was outside of your place, waiting for you to get out the car. Your chest hurt.
This was the only moment that you were going to have. The only moment where you could say what your brain had repeatedly thought since you first saw him in March...and what your brain had repeatedly thought since the day you left him, years ago. You could let everything go, with no work to tear you away or other agents around and less chance for him to dismiss what you had to say. Take the chance.
"I'm sorry, Aaron, and not a day goes by that I don't feel guilty for how I left. I just wanted you to know that,"
Your hands were shaking, concealed in fiddling with the strap of your bag as a moment passed. He had no expression on his face, completely unreadable and distant.
But you'd said it and that's all you wanted. In complete honesty with yourself, you wanted him back although you knew that could never happen. He'd never let you in again.
You let out a short sigh as you opened the car door and got out. Just before you could shut the door behind you, you heard him call your name faintly. You turned around.
"I know and I already forgave you that day,"
You felt like there was nothing more to say. In reality, you had so much that you wanted to get off your chest, to tell him and confide in him about exactly what happened that day, but it was never going to be the right time. So you just nodded and closed the door. He didn't leave until you were inside the house.
For the first time since March, you allowed yourself to really think about him. Not just the memories that you relived every zoned out moment you got, but the ones you'd tried to avoid. The arguments, the crying and then the nail in the coffin - the day he joined the FBI, the day you couldn't do it anymore and you left without nothing more than a note on his bedside table. Then it was November. You'd grown quite close to the BAU's technical analyst Penelope - she'd bought you a box of tea to try with her after months of sharing her own personal stash, and the friendship grew from there. If the BAU weren't working a case or out in the field, you'd hole up in her lair during your lunch hours, putting the world to rights and photoshopping different outfits onto each other, the more extra the better. Penelope was the only reason that you found out Aaron was now in the BAU as a Unit Chief. The last time you saw Aaron before moving to Virginia was in New York, where he worked in the FBI field office. You'd mentioned nothing about him to Penelope, but she had noticed a small wince in your usual smile every time she mentioned her boss.
"Why do you pull that face whenever I mention Hotch? He's not that scary, peach. He's a softy...sometimes," "He's my ex," You admitted, catching yourself off-guard at how you announced it without thinking. "Oh," was all she said, and then quickly changed the conversation - that, you were thankful for.
Everything changed in December. Penelope invited you to a party on Christmas Eve and you happily accepted - you didn't really have much else in the way of friendships, and you really didn't want to spend Christmas Eve at home or in some bar full of strangers. What she did not tell you was that the party wasn't hers, but one of her superiors in the BAU. David Rossi, almost like a breathing legend in terms of criminal profiling, was hosting the party at one of his houses, and Penelope had mentioned to him about bringing a friend. After Rossi didn't believe her when she said it wasn't that kind of friend, she blurted it out. "It's Hotch's ex. She works in Organised Crime," "...and why is that going to be a good idea?" "I saw a photo of her in Hotch's wallet," "How did you get ahold of Hotch's wallet?" "I didn't, Prentiss did - she sent me a photo. Come on, Rossi, I mean - don't you want the man to be happy?" "I do, but his ex?" "Well, she hasn't got anyone else to hang around with at Christmas," "Fine, but if this goes badly, it's not on me,"
It was December 24th and you arrived at Rossi's house, Penelope just in front of you as she rang the doorbell. Rossi ushered you both inside, and your eyes marvelled at the people in the house, all dressed up with glasses of champagne, someone playing piano in the far corner. "Come on," Penelope mumbled as she grabbed your wrist, pulling you through the gaggles of people until she stopped in front of a group stood by the patio doors, leading to the garden. Your breath caught in your throat when he turned around. Dressed completely in black, the shirt catching tightly on the muscles on his arms - it was enough to make your chest begin to hurt again, though this time accompanied with a fire beginning to burn in the pit of your stomach. The most surprising part was the way he looked at you, mirroring your exact expression, looking you up and down as if you couldn't see him doing it. Checking you out.
Silence seemed to be the default setting for you both, as you barely spoke all night. You got on well with the rest of the BAU team, and spent most of the night drinking and laughing with them, your throat becoming dry whenever he came near you.
It wasn't until the 'Merry Christmas!' moments had passed, around one a.m, that he spoke to you. You were sat on the steps of the deck outside, the cool air gracing your bare arms and face, relaxing you into a false sense of calm.
He sat down next to you, your knees touching. The contact made the fire burn brighter, hotter, and you refused to move away from him, even if you felt like he wanted you to.
"I'm sorry, I didn't know you'd be here. Penelope didn't tell me," You began, but he cut you off with a shake of his head.
"It's okay. I mean, it's a party, right?"
You nodded. There was that damn silence again. But the champagne and the festivity had made your mouth soft and loose, turning the moment into honesty hour.
"Look, Aaron, I didn't want to leave you. I just couldn't cope at the time, we both knew that. I should have told you, given you a better explanation, but I wasn't okay and I felt like if I opened up, I'd bring you down with me and I couldn't do that. I loved you. I still love you."
Nothing. You took a deep breath, trying to rectify the mess that had become this moment.
"Shit, I'm sorry, I shouldn--"
"Would you just shut up and kiss me?"
You physically recoiled - not in disgust, but in complete shock. The man had been avoiding you, barely speaking to you for nine months and now suddenly a switch had flipped in his brain.
"What?"
"Y/N,"
That was the first time he'd said your name in years, and it made your mind hazy, soft, fluttery.
"I keep trying to find words and I can't. I know why you left, I completely understand. I've been trying to figure out how to talk to you for months,"
For the first time since finding each other again, your eyes were locked onto each other for longer than a few seconds. Staring - searching for any warning signs within the other, but finding nothing but fondness and longing, a sweetness that you both still held for each other.
Your hand ran along his jawline, settling on the side of his cheek with the pads of your fingers running soft circles along his skin. He moved forward slightly, brushing his nose against your cheek before his lips found yours hesitantly, as if he was still unsure that you were okay with it.
You pulled him closer with both of your hands, gripping his face as you kissed him back, your chest tightening as every loving feeling that you'd ever had for him came rushing back like a flood, cascading straight over you. He responded immediately, interweaving his hands into your hair and tipping your head back to give him more access.
Completely breathless, you broke the kiss sharply, keeping him as close as you could.
"I love you too," He mumbled, his tone was soft and low, definite.
All you could do was nod as you pulled his lips back to yours.
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alfredolover119 · 3 years
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I looooove your zukka rec lists! I recently became Avatar-obsessed, never got a chance to watch it as a kid and only just got through it all! I was wondering if you'd consider doing a specifically angst rec list? I love fluffy zukka everything, but sometimes you just gotta have your heart ripped out of your chest and put back in after being thoroughly blended.
thank you! i relate heavily to “recently became Avatar-obsessed” haha. as for the angst list, i sure can try! warning: all of these have happy endings because im a crybaby who can’t read unhappy endings. also, p much all of the fics in the completed section were featured on my other lists but this is specifically the ANGSTY ones >:^)
angsty zukka wips
first, most obviously, feels like we only go backwards by @oldpotatoe
-currently at 102k with 19/27 chapters posted; rated teen
-the amnesia fic. the amnesia fic. the amnesia fic. you know. i haven’t actually read it yet because, as previously mentioned, i’m a crybaby and am waiting for it to finish up but, from my understanding, this fic will murder you in a dark alleyway with no remorse. if u like zukka angst, you’ve probably already read this, but just in case!
An injury leaves Sokka with amnesia. His last memory is of the failed invasion, of leaving his father behind in enemy territory on the Day of Black Sun. Of hopelessness. Rage. // But then he wakes up, and the war is over. Suddenly, he must come to terms with the fact that years have passed, and that he's somehow the Southern Water Tribe Ambassador to the Fire Nation. He is also supposedly friends with banished-Prince-turned-Fire-Lord Zuko, of all people. Close friends.
Yeah, nah.
and i’ll do anything you say (if you say it with your hands) by @goldrushzukka
-currently 38k with 6/8 chapters posted; rated mature
-holy shit. holy SHIT. modern au based on the “my cat likes my fuckbuddy and i am falling in love” trope(?). maybe it’s just because of how the last chapter ended, but oh my god. this one made me cry. made me want to commit violence. when it’s not angsty as hell, it’s pretty funny, but holy shit. ao3 user nebulastucky please.
It’s supposed to be a one night stand. Pick up some guy at a bar, barely remember his name and never learn anything real about him, send him packing in the morning with a thanks for the ride and a cup of coffee to-go. That’s how it’s supposed to go. // But then it’s the best sex Sokka has ever had, and he thinks he’ll hate himself if he never gets to have it again.
Violet Blossoms and Celestial Objects by @hollypunkers
-currently 15k with 2/? posted. rated teen.
-this is the sequel to blue (an angsty, zukka rewrite of book 2-- go read it if u havent!)! !! this is a book 3 rewrite. only two chapters in and mrs hollypunkers is really abusing the miscommunication tag, as zukka writers seem to enjoy doing. im excited to see how the world and story develops with the changes to the story! you should be too!! its very good! obviously spoilers for blue lmao
Having sided with the Avatar in Ba Sing Se, Zuko not only must navigate his new relationship with Sokka but returning to the Fire Nation as a banished enemy. His own journey of self discovery and personal growth must now coexist alongside the personal struggles of every other member of the Gaang as together they blaze a treacherous path toward an unsure victory against Zuko's own father and nation.
breakable heaven by @fruitysokka
-currently 71k with 9/11 chapters posted. rated teen
-swt ambassador zuko! soon to be chief sokka! fake dating ur best friend to get out of an arranged marriage! what could go wrong!!! i also haven’t read this one ((see: i’m a crybaby who is being hurt by too many zukka wips already)), but it has been hanging out in my marked for later for months. from what i understand, this fic has: angst.
With his twenty-first birthday looming just around the corner, the Southern Water Tribe Elders have decided that Sokka, next in line to be Chief, needs to get married. Sokka does not want that, but he does need to get them off his back until he can figure his way out of it. What better way to do that than to pretend to date his best friend (and newly minted Ambassador to the Southern Water Tribe) Zuko? // Seriously, this is a foolproof plan. Maybe one of Sokka's best. Absolutely nothing can go wrong.
angsty zukka fics (completed!)
(i’ll put these in wc order)
lighthouse beam by @incorrectzukka
-7k, rated g
-a modern college au!! zuko’s inner-monologue is very angsty in this fic. typical zuko. also per usual, theyre both fucking dorks. they sort themselves out in the end, but not before The Angst. zuko is semi-deaf in this fic and also he has a bit of internalized homophobia.
Sokka’s breathtakingly beautiful and he’s smart and makes other people laugh. Zuko has a half-burnt face and a deaf ear. It’s not rocket science. // Or, Zuko falls in love with the boy in his Philosophy class.
This Isn’t My Idea of Fun by @khaleeseas
-9k, explicit
-moon spirit/nwt prince!sokka, no war to be found here! admittedly this isnt THAT angsty but like. the angst IS present. zuko is still the prince. a lovely childhood friends (though they hated each other for a minute haha) to lovers story. 
If you asked Zuko, he and Azula saw far too much of Chief Hakoda of the Northern Water Tribe’s children growing up. It wasn’t until they were older, and Azula pointed out that - duh - their families were trying to set them all up, that he realized why. // He was told by his mother to be polite. These people were their friends and allies, and though their nations were as different as they came, harmony between nations was the most important thing. // It wasn’t his fault the Chief’s children were so annoying.
put your lips close to mine (as long as they don’t touch) by @celestialceci
-9k, teen
-modern au! zuko and sokka are college roommates. zuko goes to spend the summer with sokka. again,, not really that angsty but-- its there!! the detail and feeling of Home in this story make me happy. zuko is insecure as hell here too. if ur into that. 
Zuko hates his home. He likes college alright, but he likes Sokka even better, his assigned roommate turned best friend. Spending the summer with Sokka will be fun, a welcome change of pace he desperately wants. It probably won't awaken anything in him... right?
the thing about dancing by anodymalion
-9k, teen
-yes. this one right here officer. it makes my heart ache. also trans sokka! which is cool. but the zuko angst in this one. hurts me. not so much relationship angst as it is zuko learning he deserves happiness angst. i’m sure u know The Type.
The first time a attendant spills Zuko’s tea and doesn’t immediately fall to her knees, begging the Fire Lord’s forgiveness, it is not anger but a resounding warmth that fills his chest.
i could (never) give you peace by @zukkababey
-10k, mature
-OUCH. OUCH OUCH OUCH. boys please learn to communicate im begging u. also zuko.. zuko, dude. as the tags of the fic say, hes “really going through it” in this one. YOUCH. post-canon.
Zuko almost said it. He almost said the words I think I’m in love with you, but he choked them back down at the last second. // Zuko would never be able to be what Sokka wanted. They might have needed each other during the summer, when two boys with too much weight on their shoulders found comfort in each other in the only way they knew how. // But now Zuko was Fire Lord, and Sokka was leaving.
this love burns so yellow (becoming orange and in its time, exploding) by @meliebee 
-18k, teen, major character death 
-i lied. THIS is the one, officer. found family.. good mai and zuko and toph friendships.. . ozai escapes prison and tries to overthrow zuko. OBVIOUSLY angst ensues. poor boy. he Does heal in this but it gets worse before it gets better. angst angst angst angst.
Ten months after Zuko is crowned at seventeen, he faces his first coup.
Anything for You by beersforqueers
-23k, explicit
-istg. this is probably one of my favorite zukka fics. its PAINFUL. modern au where theyre broken up but sokka hasnt told his family yet so zuko goes home with him for kataang wedding. a bit smutty, but the plot oh my god ohgm y fuvk. made me cry the first time i read it. (see: crybaby!me) insert that one picture of the horse with the caption PAIN. 
In which Sokka and Zuko have broken up but Sokka hasn't told his family yet. So when Katara and Aang's wedding weekend rolls around and he doesn't want to break Gran-Gran's heart, he asks Zuko to pretend to be his boyfriend for one last weekend. // Things don't go as planned.
Moving Mountains by @thefangirlingdead
-64k, mature
-so. when i read this the first time it was in one sitting. soulmate au set within canon era / the comics, to an extent. soulmates can hear each others thoughts. i will happily say this is slowburn, jesus christ. champagne without the cham. 
Soulmates are chosen by the spirits and can hear each other’s thoughts. Sokka thinks it’s cheesy and dumb. Zuko thinks it’s poetic justice that he doesn’t have one because he doesn’t deserve it. Cruel irony is finding out that the prince of the Fire Nation (and the person currently hunting you) is your soulmate.
In the Soft Light by @voidcenturyscholar and @romancedawning
-83k, teen, graphic depictions of violence
-moon spirit!sokka living in the northern water tribe. zuko is sent to the northern water tribe as a cultural liaison. iroh is the fire lord but while he is away taking care of lu ten after his injury ozai steps up. i cannot express how many emotions this fic made me feel. background yuetara. i would almost say found family?? but. anyway. plenty of angst to spare here with a healthy dose of enemies to friends to lovers.
As the newly appointed cultural liaison to Northern Water Tribe, Zuko is the first Fire Nation Citizen to step foot inside the city's walls in nearly a century. He's determined to prove himself—to the Fire Lord and to his father—even if the Water Tribe's spirit-touched prince seems to want nothing to do with him.
That Midnight Sky by @zukkababey
-103k, teen
-now now now. tms... modern college au where sokka agrees to tutor zuko in physics because zuko has to maintain straight a’s and physics is just not doing it for him. so. thats cool but THEN azula moves in, randomly, with zuko. to hide the fact that sokka is tutoring zuko, they fake date! what could go wrong!! the mutual pining in here combined with the angst... wonderful, tasty. everyone read it rn. also SLOWBURN 
In Zuko’s strict family, needing a tutor is just about the worst thing you could do. Failing a class, however, is even worse. The only rational solution? Take up Aang on his offer to find him a physics tutor and have Sokka—beautiful, smart, handsome Sokka—tutor him in secret. // When Azula’s arrival threatens to reveal Zuko’s secret, it’s up to Sokka to convince her this definitely isn’t what it looks like. See, he’s actually… Zuko’s… boyfriend? // Hmm. There’s no way this could get complicated, right?
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My HxH ships
Disclaimer: These are my thoughts on my ships to share with my Tumblr friends. If you’re some stranger who disagrees with it and it evokes negative emotions on you, kindly exit. I know the internet has a bunch of trolls/idiots that has a habit of harassing people because the ship is “wrong” or it doesn’t suit them. Well, honestly, I don’t really care if you agree with them because I don’t know you personally? And this is fictional so it’s not something to be taken personally or even seriously. Don’t confuse my personal values with what I like with the ships.
I can’t believe I even need to make a disclaimer on this because a bunch of people don’t know how to be civilized once they are anonymous on a social media platform. I will just block lol; BYEEE.
HxH I love:
Defintion - Actively ships them, willing to make fanfics of them if possible
1. Kurapika x Neon
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This ship is so underrated it hurts. They may not be similar in terms of personality and views of the dead: Neon focuses more on the living and the present (that’s why she doesn’t have sympathy for the dead and tells Chrollo her fortunes are for the living), while Kurapika focuses on the past and mourns for the dead (his mourning for his clan). But I think both of them are very similar in terms of loneliness. Neon doesn’t have friends and lacks affections from her father; Kurapika is lonely because all of his clan members are dead.
I know the common barrier is Neon’s hobby for flesh collecting, but I think this difference is what makes it more complicated and interesting for me. Especially when Kurapika has been in many seasons under the Nostrade Family... it makes me wonder what kind of interactions they had since it was all Killua and Gon on-screen.
2. Hisoka x Machi
I actually had always liked Hisoka with Machi together. Hisoka seems to really like her and enjoys her company. Machi may seem irritated by him but I think she’s more of a tsundere? She still decides to patch him after the fight against Chrollo, and their relationship got a bit more complicated after the Hisoka vs Chrollo fight.
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3. Tserreidnich x Theta
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Okay, I LOVE this ship. This is right out love-hate kind of relationship. It lowkey reminds me of Clarice/Hannibal and I find this ship so fascinating? I don’t see a lot of fanfics of them unfortunately. So Legacy by Alltagsabenteuer is a blessing from heaven because it’s the only TsexTheta tag in AO3.
So far I haven’t found anyone else who loves this ship, so please identify yourself if you do.
I’m starting to think I like those complicated love-hate dynamics....
HxH ships I like:
Definition of like - Actively ships them, may make fanfics of them or not. But doesn’t think of them 24/7.
1. Pokkle x Ponzu
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This was like, a ship that never really sailed because Togashi decided to kill them both. I think this ship had potential and I’m hoping they find happiness in the afterlife.
2. Chrollo x Neon
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I actually really liked how they vibe together during this one scene (although Chrollo targetted to meet her for her fortune-telling abilities). I am a KuraNeon shipper but I like the idea of Chrollo being a 3rd party because I think it fits so well? Chrollo and Kurapika are enemies and I had always found it fascinating how both of them got entangled with the same woman.  Also, people be like “Neon is 16″ uhhh... Hunterpedia states she’s born in 1982, along with Kurapika and Milluki. She’s the same age as Kurapika and Milluki; and Kurapika is widely accepted as 19 now; and it does tally if you see the Hunter x Hunter timeline (although there has been several discrepancies and dubious canonity when it comes to the Official Hunter x Hunter database and the HxH manga timeline). I’m not sure why people falsely remember Neon as a year younger than Kurapika and use it as a common argument to not support Chrollo/Neon when people have no problems (except for some) when it comes to shipping Kurapika with Chrollo.
So... Chrollo be that Mr. Steal Yo Girl and Kurapika’s posessive reaction to it will be astronomical.
I am also hella gonna support the upcoming #kuroneoweek2021 in May! @kuroneoweek
So you bet there will be more fanfics of KuroNeo from me!
HxH ships I support:
Definition of support: Does not actively ship them, but definitely likes the idea of them
1. Killua x Canary
I love how Canary tries her best for Killua and she does care about him. I realised that Killua seems to have an issue with older women (e.g. Bisky, Elevator girl), but I think for girls who are about his age, he’s okay with them. There is a misconception that he can’t communicate with women well (probably because he has issues with his mother), but I think that’s just for old ladies - Canary is cool with him.
2. Hisoka x Illumi
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It drives me nuts how these two have matching outfits. I know that they have a more of a give-and-take transactional relationships rather than purely friends, but this is fab best friendship goals. My friend loves this ship and I absolutely support it.
3. Retz (with either Gon or Killua)
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The unreasonable hate on Retz is insane because “she’s ruining KilluGon”. I think it’s really refreshing to see Killua and Gon hang out with another girl their age. You can see that Gon is really sweet towards her. Killua is more suspicious of her for a good reason but he never hated her. Remember that Killua is not used to interacting with people due to his family background. In fact, as @u-named mentioned, Killua and Retz shares similarities in terms of wanting to be free from their family.
4. Alluka x Gon
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I would love to see a fanfic where Gon starts to woo Alluka and Killua will be that overprotective brother, knowing that his best friend is a player. Alluka/Nanika healed Gon anyway, so she’s technically his saving angel.
5. Ging x Gon’s unnamed mom
Okay, this is a bit weird cause we don’t know who Gon’s mom is... (and screw that Pregnancy Stone theory, I just think it’s weird how Ging mentioned Gon’s mom in the tape if he never had a mom lmao; is he gonna say “which you don’t have” like ???).
I actually like fanfics that explores Ging’s life before Gon and various interpretations of who Gon’s mom is.
What Lies Beyond by Thatsoneperson is one of the best fanfics I’ve read when it comes to Ging’s life before Gon. The ending was really heartbreaking and I had always loved the “Gon’s mom was from the DC” theory because Yusuke’s ancestral father came from the Demon World and there were hints of Gon’s dark aura throughout CA and Election arc.
Somehow in my headcanon, I had always envisioned Gon’s mom to resemble Usagi from Sailor Moon but with Gon’s hair colour. Gon also has certain personality traits that are very different from Ging and I believe that came from his mother.
6. Meruem x Komugi
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One of the most unexpected, beautiful, saddest, semi-canon pairings in the entire series. It highkey reminds me of Beauty and the Beast. It was beautiful how Meruem, a Chimera Ant that was supposed to be destined to rule the world above humans, became gradually attached to a blind human girl.
7. Killua x Machi
This is fucking weird; because of the age gap but I like to think Killua meets her again one day when he grows up, and they had some sort of flirtation because he needs to be on par with Gon when it comes to dating women.
There was actually a cute fic about that called A Series of Pick Up Lines by Yandere Shoujo where Killua was trying to use pick up lines on a woman because he wanted to try it out after knowing that Gon dated women prior and just so happens to bump into Machi.
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🌗 💕 🌍 🎤 for the ask <3 <3
THANK U SO MUCH FOR THE ASK!
🌗 fluff or angst?
why it is always fluff or angst but never hurt/comfort????? i want my hurt/comfort guys that's all i ask,
(angst)
💕 favorite ship to write?
iorhfui honestly i don't think I have a favorite ship to write?? like, in general i like writing ship and i find them all interesting to write odifh it depends how much i like this particular ship i guess????
🌍fave type of au to write?
uuuuuh... any au? no but really, they all can be interesting as long as i have the ideas to go with it odfih
BUT in general i like modern au/no capes au (depending on the fandom), i also like fantasy au veeery much. I recently discovered my love for some fairy tales au (wait, not so recently actually now that i think about that)... like all of that is so much fun to write. AND!!! the worldbuilding!!! i love the worldbuilding!!
so, yeah. i'm staying with these one!
... except if canon divergence works..... i do like writing about it....
🎤fave line in a fic you wrote?
oh seriously i had to go find a fic and a line odufhu
SINCE IT'S LIKE THAT HERE I'LL PUT MORE THAN ONE
“So,” said Ashley, swallowing hardly on her breath. “You have two moms, and a dad. It's nice.” Not what she expected, but not unheard of.
“Five,” corrected Lian.
“... Five?”
“Yes. Five dads.”
I just really like this one bc it's very funny to me. It's from one of my WIP called "titans' babies vs the world", and in this one you have Lian talking about her parents lmao. Talking about that, here's Bobby talking about their parents as well:
“Yeah. The one who was with dad before, the dad who's Mar'i's dad dad and kind of mom's twin – or, well, they tell everyone they are even if they aren't really, I don't know, it's complicated – and now mom is with mom and they love each other very much. Like dad love mom and mom but in another way, you know?”
If it's extra confusing, it's the point LMAO. I just love these kids so much.
Stephanie flourishes on the road, cheeks reds from the wind and smiling, hands calloused under the work, her bag still light on her hips. This curse is turning into a blessing, even if she doesn’t say it out loud, even if she barely allow herself the thought.
But, for the first time since her mother’s death and what she feels is forever, Stephanie is truly happy.
This one is from another WIP!! A Fairy Tale AU with Steph as the main character :D idk, i just really like the way it flows, maybe it's just me lmao
Dick led the way toward the gardens, keeping Kori’s hand in his. The moon reflected on Kori’s hair in a bright, eerie way. He loved it.
It wasn’t too warm outside despite the summer night; a light breeze was creeping around and chilling the air in a pleasant way. The stars were shining.
Dick still had a ring in his pocket.
listen i'm a romantic at heart... i just really like this part. AND YES it's also for another one of my WIP. Well technically not WIP since it's finished but on its way to be betaed lmao
The last time Tim had seen him was years ago, when Jason was still Robin and Tim a stalker following the Batman and his allies. In his death, he somehow managed to grow up to be tall and bulky, towering close to Bruce’s height - and weight. All in all, Jason was terrifying, extremely competent, and there was no way for Tim to beat him in a fight.
After all, Tim knew that fighting wasn’t his strong suit, despite - or in spite - of all the training he had been put through. But, well, everyone said he had one thing for himself, and it was his brain. Or making wonderful plans on the spot, just like Kon told him two hours ago during their tag game. (That they won, for the record.)
Now was the perfect time to discover if Tim Drake could outsmart Jason Todd.
i just love it because it screams that Tim is about to do something very stupid lmao. AND!! this one is actually from a published fic, aka Checkmate :fingerguns:
“Because you’re Robin.” [...] “And Robin was me. My family colors. My name. I created it to honor my family - and by putting on this costume, you became a part of my family. You became mine, Jase. Not Bruce’s. Not anyone else’s. And you still are, will always be. Robins are a family, and Bruce has no say in that.”
Jason - Jason’s heart was breaking and healing at the same time, full of tiny shards of glass and soft bandages.
[...]
Jason never realized the consequences of being Robin, but this - being part of Dick’s family - was probably the best of all. It was worth it - worth everything else.
listen i'm extremely emotional about Jason and Dick and especially this fic. Anyway, it's from A Nest of Love and Robins, this one is posted too!
Wally missed it, sometimes. Missed the thrill of being Kid Flash, of being a Titan, of fighting and having movie nights with his best friends. When he looked at Bart, at Conner, at Cassie, at Cissie, at Tim – Wally wondered whose legacy they're carrying on. Of course, people automatically thought it was the Justice League's ; but Wally watched them and remembered and thought, 'Maybe they got it from us, maybe they're our legacy'. And that was a weird thought – because the Titans had never been about having a legacy or being one, but always been about being a group of friends and becoming a family in between two punches and a slice of pizza.
this one make me emotional too. I honestly don't have anything better to say, i just... really love the whole things. It comes from Watch Your Past!
Okay now last one but i'm really in love with this whole fic and yes i know i'm the one who wrote it and????
But- It was nice, too, in it's own way. They grew up together, faced death and life together. They knew each other so much they couldn't really hide anything, and sometimes it felt like they were an extension of his own soul.
He had thought, once upon a time, that maybe he was a tiny bit in love with his best friends. He loved them more than anything, after all; that didn't really change, he just added more people to this category. Their children. His siblings.
It hadn't been true, though – not entirely. Because if his interest in them wasn't romantic, it didn't mean he couldn't be in love with them. There are a lot of ways to be in love with people. Maybe it was just another one.
It didn't really matter, in the end, as long as they could stay together – in this life and the next.
[...]
They laughed, loud and clear – like all those years ago in Titans Tower or in the middle of a fight or standing proud against their enemies, mentors, whoever would try to go against them. They laughed, freely and with not a care for the world around them, like they still owned it after all these years. They laughed like they were young and innocent, ancient and tired, alive and free.
They laughed, loud and clear, in the same heartbeat and soul.
[...]
(Maybe they were all a little tiny bit in love, in the end.)
idk it's kind of poetic and full of feelz for me, so, yeah. It's from the fic home is where the heart settle, about the Fab Five!
AND THAT'S IT. Thanks again for the ask, ask list here!
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do you have any hcs for if usnavi's parents hadn't died? it would change him and his story a lot and I feel like it could be really interesting, how he's still him but with such different experiences. and you write him and get his character so well so you're definitely the person to ask about this kind of thing if you're up for it :) (also as a fellow brit the uk au is really really weird to me, I can't quite work out why)
(lmao ikr? i wouldn’t actually call it a uk au because i firmly do not believe it could work as a fully-fledged idea without changing way too much about a very culturally specific story in a way that has very uncomfortable implications, tho it is hilarious to briefly entertain the idea of ITH except it’s all set in fuckin milton keynes or something because Simply No Thank You)
THIS WILL BE LONG, BUCKLE UP
i think that a lot of canon usnavis traits are perhaps things he already had but that got magnified by a huge amount after losing his parents, because they could also be seen as ADHD traits; particularly the anxiety and the difficulty with making changes or starting new things. he’s still worried about messing up, about making a fool of himeslf, or just doesnt have the executive functioning to do things. but the difference is prior to losing his parents he had a lot more optimism and self-confidence to push himself past those anxieties or to find it easier to listen to his friends and family when they encourage him, because he has this certainty when he’s younger that things will turn out okay. an usnavi who never loses his parents carries that certainty into adulthood (i think even after abuela passes, because while it’s difficult and tragic for him, it isn’t deeply traumatising in the same way). so this version of usnavi still worries about failure, but the stakes are so much lower; he might embarrass himself but he has the safety net of his parents support, whereas the fear that fuels canon usnavi’s difficulty with changing things or moving forward is “what if i fuck up and lose someone else important to me again?”, where things which aren’t actually literal life-or-death tend to feel that way to him, and he’s a lot more cynical about whether things will have a positive outcome.
with his parents still alive doesn’t find it so terrifying to look into the future – “today’s all we got”, he says in the opening song, and i think he would still say that but in a way that means “live for today, live in the moment, enjoy life”. that might be the attitude he’s trying to get across in canon, but he also uses it as a way to hold himself back and keep himself stuck in place, to not let himself hope for anything in the future: in canon, he knows in a very painful way that he isn’t promised a future, and nobody he loves is promised a future, so why make plans or hypotheticals or even seriously believe that he’ll ever go back to DR? (i genuinely think there’s a subconscious part of him that’s firmly convinced he’s going to die young, but that’s a whole other tangent). he’s living in the moment because he’s scared of what he’ll see when he looks past it; usnavi with his parents still around lives in the moment because he likes the moment he’s in.
i wonder if him and vanessa would have ended up dating, or at least if they’d have been so successful and long-lasting as a couple. they’e always known each other and got on well, but i see their deeper feelings as growing out of  this shared understanding between them based on the difficulties they’ve been through – would they have still had the champagne bet, if usnavi didn’t have that grief and loss and extra responsibility that drives his vague non-plans to go live in DR? would he even want to leave new york, in this version, or would he still be content with the place he grew up because it doesn’t have those painful memories? 
the character arc of reconciling moving forward from a place that symbolises a painful past without having to completely sever from the good things about it is something that both of them share in canon. without those moments of both being given too many responsibilities and too much independence way too young because they don’t have parents who can ease the transition into adulthood, or this unspoken recognition that even with all their barrio family around both of them are very much on their own in some ways, would they make the deeper emotional connection that makes them work so well together in a more long-term way? or would they just have gone on a few casual dates that didn’t stand out from any other casual dates they might have with others?
and hell, maybe usnavi would’ve already been in a relationship with someone completely different – he’d be working at the store with two other people who were experienced in running it. he’d have so much more time to go out, have a social life, go to clubs and hang out with more people his own age. usnavi after losing his parents became quite disconnected from the larger group of people him and benny would hang out with at school; he doesn’t have the time, he doesn’t have the energy, and for a long time while he’s still so deep in grief i think they find it hard to know how to be friends with this quiet, broken, listless usnavi. they’re all still friendly but internally i think he loses his sense of place with his peers because he’s been rapidly catapulted into a stage of life that none of them are in. an usnavi who doesn’t lose his parents also doesn’t lose his sense of being around the same level and life stage as his peers, so who knows who he meets or develops feelings for?
his relationship with sonny is definitely different. his love and care for him isn’t so full of fear, because he doesn’t feel this need to protect him from every little thing or like it’s his personal responsibility to keep him alive, because it doesn’t really occur to him that he could lose him. canon usnavi i think has a lot more of a somewhat parental vibe, and often an overprotective parent at that. i think this usnavi, because he doesn’t have to grow up so quickly and he isn’t sonny’s boss, has much more of a fun big brother role. and i think sonny in return doesn’t feel so much responsibility for usnavi as he grows up - he doesnt feel like he has to force him to have fun or get some rest or put himself first every so often because usnavi doesnt push himself nearly so relentlessly and because his parents can look out for him when he does. 
maybe sonny doesn’t start working in the bodega until much later, either – a lot of why he spends so much time there is because usnavi watches him while his mom’s at work but can’t just close the store. if his parents are there to keep working then usnavi watches sonny at one of their homes, or they go out and do more stuff. the bodega is still important to both of them but it isn’t nearly as much a main setting for sonny’s adolescence as it is in canon.
on that note, since in my version the first thing that makes usnavi hold an instant vendetta against pete is catching pete tagging the store only a few weeks after losing his parents, where his feelings are still so intense and raw. the store hasn’t reopened and so the graffiti feels like someone else making a claim on the only thing he has left of his parents. in this version he’d be annoyed to catch someone tagging the store at most but much quicker to forgive and forget. so in a world where usnavi doesn’t lose his parents, usnavi also doesn’t hate graffiti pete.
 if we’re assuming that things did go roughly similar to the point of usnavi being in the club with vanessa on the night of the blackout, here’s the things that would change:
- sonny isn’t the one at the bodega, his parents are, and they’re together so usnavi doesn’t feel the same urgency to get back and check on things there when the power goes out. instead he finds vanessa and walks her home and by the time he’s back at the store, i think his mom would already be with abuela making sure she’s okay, and usnavi would focus on helping his dad make sure everything was safe and secure at the bodega
- he’s also probably still pretty drunk at this point, so there’s a chance that when everything at the store is secured he just goes straight to bed; it’s been a long night, and he’s tired, and he doesn’t have the trauma of past loss making him feel like he personally has to check every little thing himself. he trusts his parents to take care of abuela, it isn’t all on his shoulders. so they don’t have their moment together on the roof.
- whether the store gets looted in this version or not, i don’t think usnavi’s waking up at sunrise to deal with it, but even if he is then he gets up, helps his parents, is upset and annoyed but not in the same visceral, overwhelming way that he is in canon because he doesn’t have all those other long-term anxieties building up in him, he doesn’t have that pressure of his parents legacy tied up in the store when they’re still right there, he doesn’t have that conversation with vanessa where she’s hurt and betrayed that he left her in the blackout and didn’t check up on her.  (sidenote this may even mean that vanessa doesn’t move downtown, because if he isnt looking for a way to make things up to her before he leaves then he might not think to speak to dani about co-signing her apartment)
-  this means he probably doesn’t get overwhelmed and abandon cleanup to go visit abuela in the morning like he does in canon when we get Hundreds of Stories. he might not even be around, since he tells sonny in canon to get a generator and candles to the church and that’s probably an errand he’d do himself while his parents manned the store. this means he probably does not see abuela that one final time or have that one final meaningful conversation with her before she passes.
final sad note: in a version of events where usnavi never loses his parents, christmas is still his favourite time of year.
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ok saw asks!!! bcuz i have Amanda on th brain rn i wd like ur take on her interacting w Lawrence? personally idk how much she knew of his involvement bc she implies in 3 tht Lynn was entirely John's choice, but i also think th idea of her Knowing + deliberately not telling Hoffman is extremely funny. Hoffman cant come 2 th weekly disciple meeting bcuz hes got Cop Business so he misses Lawrence's introduction + Amanda is just like "sure John of course ill tell Mark that we got a new friend :)" and just never does. LOVE that thought
dhgsdkj thank u!!
it Is extremely funny 2 think that she just. knows but refuses to tell Hoffman + THAT'S why Hoffman doesn't know who Lawrence is until he jabs him w the needle + takes off the pig mask lmao omg. just like "oh yeah of course I'll tell Mark we have a new teammate don't worry abt it!" and she Never Does dkjkdsg??
okay but 2 Seriously answer yr question. when I think abt it I always think that like. it wld b pretty hard fr John 2 keep them frm each other given how integral Lawrence's participation is in every game from SAW II onward? 'cause like we know Amanda helps w the kidnapping process + placing them in their traps, which one CLD argue would only mean she wld see them after Lawrence would do his thing but. I feel like she'd be vaguely aware? bc she wld also then have 2 know that he survived his game, given that she helped set it up - we know that she'd AT LEAST know his name.
to elaborate on th idea that only HOFFMAN doesn't know (both bc it's fucking hilarious + actually how I view things happening jdkhfksd), I feel like Amanda + Lawrence's interactions wld be rather limited. in canon, Lawrence becomes a disciple after John "rehabilitates" him or whtever he wants 2 call it, but I feel he'd have to be aware of Amanda, too - both that she is also a disciple + SHE'S th one who helped get him in the bathroom in th first place. as grateful as Lawrence seems to feel toward John + as much as he believes in John's "work," I feel like that wld be smth he'd have to work thru: working side by side w someone who had a direct hand in basically destroying yr life as u knew it. n I feel like Amanda wld know that, n as such she'd want to keep her distance bc she can't predict how this man will act/what he will do, even if he is technically on her side. so like. things wld def be tense btwn them until Lawrence has had some time 2 process his new life + what tht means for him, and until the two of them can have some sort of talk/acknowledgement of that.
though I will say that their roles kind of imply they'd at least see a good bit of each other. Amanda scouts, in a way, helps subdue & bring ppl in, which wld then be brought to Lawrence fr any medical procedures they feel r needed (such as sewing th key behind Michael's eye in II) so it'd definitely be like a "hey did u bring some1?" sort of thing. Mark is muscle of course so like I know he def helped on tht end (I believe Amanda is th one who caught Lawrence in the parking garage but like it wld be SO much funnier if Hoffman was the one crawling around) but IDK if he rly Saw Lawrence bc. Cop Business. so he'd just kinda b like "here u go" n bring ppl to Amanda n then peace out 'cause he's gotta keep tht reputation of Respected Detective. we know he also might've messed w traps themselves as well (like The Rack in III), which wld definitely keep him separate from Lawrence bc Lawrence had No Involvement in designing/setting up traps. tht was strictly a John/Hoffman/Amanda endeavour.
as fr how they'd feel abt each other? it's really dependent on how u view thm as characters. Lawrence, after he becomes a disciple, believes that what John is doing is truly helpful and truly has the capability to change lives; he devotes himself 2 it, shows countless times tht he has complete faith in John + his methods, so much so that John left a tape fr him telling him to look after Jill + to act on his behalf if smth were to happen to her. he calls Lawrence his greatest asset. his trust in John + the Jigsaw legacy is unwavering.
Amanda, however, has been shown several times to act directly against John's beliefs, such as constructing inescapable traps (Kerry) or rigging others' games (Adam). th breakdown she has in III I think showcases the disconnect between her love fr John as a mentor/father figure, and the realization that not only is John entirely hypocritical and doesn't stay true to his own beliefs half th time, he truly has shown no regard fr her safety + has only been using her to further the agenda that was built upon a fragile foundation 2 begin with. u've mentioned this b4 too but John always liked 2 say that if u can anticipate the human mind, then nothing is up 2 chance - which wld mean that he KNEW Xavier might throw Amanda into the Needle Pit to get out of it. he KNEW Daniel was just a fucking kid and was perfectly fine w putting him in very real danger to get back at some1 he felt like needling fr the express purpose of provocation and nothing else. he KNEW Laura, a woman she'd formed a bond w and pretty much swore to protect th minute she woke up and saw her crying in the corner, could begin to seize n choke on her own vomit and die in that house. he knew all of those things, ENCOURAGED the belief that smth was wrong w her because she wasn't "fixed" as he had claimed, and it's so unfortunate that she doesn't realize that sooner (I fully agree that she deserved to lose her shit completely on John. it's what he deserved! it's what SHE deserved!!!) but she still Does before she dies (which, again, I Don't think should've happened. she didn't deserve 2 go out like tht + she deserved so much more of her story being told).
so there's the conflict of beliefs between thm. I think Amanda definitely starts out like Lawrence does, completely devoted + believing every word John says, but thru II we can see that certainty begin to falter n her faith in John is completely shaken by the end. I don't think Lawrence wld Know she felt tht way until after she died, if he ever finds out at all, bc I doubt that's smth she'd want to express. it's not even smth she discusses w John himself until III, in which she's already made up her mind to shoot Lynn as a final act of misguided disobedience. I still think tht Lawrence wld feel fr her in some way, though, bc even b4 he became a disciple he was rather horrified when Sing + Tapp had him sit thru her testimony; his feelings would change on this a lil, bc he'd see it as her rebirth (as she once did too), but I still feel like he'd want 2 like. watch over her a little. not super directly, + not because he felt threatened by her presence or anything like that, but because they're in this together n I'm sure John's told him abt some of the circumstances regarding how she came to be a disciple after her game as well. I feel like he wld definitely be saddened by her passing, bc I feel he'd come 2 respect her at least a bit, but fr him it's like. they have 2 keep moving. John is gone now too, smth I'm sure was probably a pretty huge blow fr Lawrence, and now he has to put his energy into making sure Hoffman stays unaware of him. just in case he has to act on that warning John gave him abt Jill. but he wld still miss Amanda n wld mourn her, to be sure.
I don't think they'd be close or anything like tht. kind of just friendly coworkers who only see each other every once in a while, passing thru the doors of each other's lives with a nod and a wave and maybe a greeting if they're feeling up 2 it. they're not too involved. Amanda can't tell u tht Lawrence's favourite flowers are sunflowers. Lawrence can't tell u tht Amanda's favourite smell is lavender or tht her favourite colour is a deep, almost greyish purple. but they're connected thru John, thru their work, n that still means smth to both of them, at least in some manner. when Amanda dies, Lawrence grieves. Jill pays for her headstone n Lawrence makes sure to bring fresh flowers every once in a while, but he has to hold his head up n keep walking. now tht John's gone, there's work to be done.
and someone's gotta keep an eye on Hoffman.
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V’s Route but MC fell in love with Seven instead of V. What would it be like? What about twins reunion in this circumstances?
Ohh this is AMAZING and I love it, I actually wanted to write a fic about that lol (also I’m sorry it became like a whole fucking book at the end lmao)
Also I don’t know if it’s canon that he had feelings for the MC on V’s route and I accept it as canon because I like to suffer pft
Let’s assume this takes place in more than three days! And I added some bits of Saeran’s route too so you know, make it ✨DRAMATIC✨
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First he’d be suspicious of you, but he doesn’t want to show it and I just ADORE that idea
Seven would joke around with the you while sneakily trying to figure out some info, but then you will turn it on him somehow, you will start to get serious and then BAM say it was a joke, or you’ll suddenly flirt with Seven which will make him go like ‘oh shit who gave you the right’
So the first days, you and Seven would probably joke around a lot in the chatrooms, at points you’d have serious talks.
I like to think that at one point Seven calls you when it’s late, and he starts talking about the stars, so you go out to your little balcony (lets just assume the room has a balcony lmao) and then you look up at the stars. And Seven gets super emotional but he can’t really explain why to you. But you don’t ask him to explain. You listen, and comfort him.
Then you will say something like at that one phone call “I want to grab all the stars from you” (not a direct quote) and Seven will be shocked and speechless. And that’s when he realizes. He’s in love with you.
But he knows that maybe V is falling a little for you too, he just doesn’t realize it yet. And V has done so much for him and Saeran, that he doesn’t want to intrude.
Besides, he doesn’t want you to get hurt. So he stops appearing in the chatroom so often and he never really answers your calls.
Then Ray took you to his room to take the elixir, and that’s when V came in like NO YOU DONT and it makes Ray break a bit.
But he breaks more when he figures out what’s happening. He’s heartbroken.
At one point he takes you out to the garden and tells you that he actually likes you a lot, and he holds you very close to his heart. And you reply that you too, but not in a romantic way, subtly rejecting his advances. Before you could explain to Ray, he runs away.
He’s never felt so much anger in his entire life.
Seriously he’s mad.
I mean, you’re the first person he has ever felt he actually loved...but you still chose that idiot over him!
He knows how much you like talking to him, he sees the little smile you make when you text him or call him, talking about spaceships and the stars, and who knows what else.
And at this makes him weak. Rika takes that chance to let Saeran out. He’s vulnerable and broken, and it’s the perfect chance.
Meanwhile V is trying to figure out how to get you out of there and Rika takes the chance that Saeran is making you weak to try and convince you to join Mint Eye.
She tells him to completely block your access, and, even if Saeran doesn’t want to, she forces him to bring you to her room.
There, she gives you a bit of food, and talks about her devil, but you keep defending V and the RFA. She tells you how she wants to make weak people happy, and how to get everyone in the RFA into Mint Eye.
You refuse, but Rika keeps trying to lure you in. At one point the two of you walk to the garden.
While you’re talking, you successfully do get some information out of her. Shes telling you a story about two boys, twins. They were from a broken family. Their dad wasn’t interested in them, wanted to ge them killed even, and their mom was an abusive alcoholic. One of them was strong, and the other one was a bit weaker. So once , when the strong one left, she took the weaker one, and made him the strongest.
You were...confused to say the least. And you were worried.
“So what happened to the two boys?” You asked.
But before Rika could answer a shadowy figure with mint colored hair made its way to you.
It was V.
Both Rika and V bickered for a while, but before you could pay attention to them you saw your phone blink. You quickly picked it up.
Seven.
“Hey, Y/N,.......stay right there. I managed....now I can track you......pleas....safe....”
“Seven?!” But before you could say anymore, the call ended. You looked up to see V being taken away by two men in cloaks.
“Wait! What do you even think you’re doing?!” You asked, but Rika glared at you and tightly grabbed your hand, leading you once again to her room.
You were extremely worried. And Rika hated it. She hated how you didn’t understand, how you couldn’t see her point of view. She was mad, but she was trying to keep her cool.
Until you stood up, and confidently asked her to take you to V.
She was outraged. How could you still believe in him, defend him, when this was all his fault?! Why can’t you see she’s in the right?!
When you got into the cell, you saw Saeran...or was it Ray?
He was...he was acting strangely. When he saw you he shoved you into the cage, and locked it, but his face was one of guilt.
“I....Y/N....I....I....” he panted, and he looked around the room anxiously.
He was having a panic attack.
“Hey, hey, Ray listen-”
“Don’t call me that!!! That weakling he’s...he’s dead!!!” But then he stopped and his eyes widened. “N-no...I...Y/N...how could I do this....? I....” before he could say anything he ran away.
Fuck.
When you turned around, you saw V was laying, a bit unconscious on the ground. You quickly ran over to him, and tried your best to take care of him. He was sweating like crazy, and his words were slurred, so you couldn’t make sense of what he was saying.
After a few hours, you had fallen asleep, with V laying on your knees. You were finally getting some rest when....
“Y/N!!” Someone whispered (more like yelled.)
And you looked up.
Messy red hair....stripped glasses....that voice....
“S-Seven?!”
He nodded and looked over at V. He felt a pang in his chest as he saw how close you were, I mean he was laying on your lap. But he ignored it. He had to get the two of you out of there first.
Both of you helped getting V to stand up. Seven held V up, and told you to follow him.
But then you felt someone grab your hand, holding you tight and you yelped. Seven immediately turned, and put his hands in this pockets, ready to probably take out a weapon of some sort.
You struggled as you looked at the person who was holding you.
Ray.
“Y/N. Where are you going? Why are you with that...that traitor? You promised me you would never leave me, you said that you would never leave me!!”
“Saeran...Ray, please listen to me. This is not safe, Rika is using you, please come with us, you can finally get rest, you can be free and!” But Saeran held you tighter.
Seven almost dropped V. He looked at Saeran up and down, his face filled with shock.
“Sae....ran...? Did they call you Saeran...?”
“My my. This isn’t how I intended your reunion to go. Now look what you’ve done V. I hope you’re proud of yourself.” A sinister voice said behind Saeran.
Seven became even more pale. “Ri....ka...? But...V said....you’re supposed to....”
“I see you’ve fallen for all his lies Saeyoung. Well, this just makes things easy for me. V lied about everything, about me, about Saeran. Do you know see him for what he is?? A liar. He didn’t want me, to be happy, to help others become happy, his love shone so bright, that it burned me. He didn’t want to love me, all of me! V is a traitor, and now I’ve come to take you out of that hell and bring you to paradise...!”
Saeyoung (?) looked at V. And then at Rika. And then at V once again. He...he didn’t know what to believe anymore...what the fuck was going on??
Then, V stirred and slowly looked up towards Rika.
“Rika....I’m really sorry. About all this, about everything. This was not how I wanted things to end...but you have to let it go...please. The love I gave you...it...it wasn’t real. We have to be honest Rika. We found comfort in each other, we used each other to try and fill the empty void we have. But it wasn’t the right thing...instead of healing, it destroyed us even more...”
“What are you saying V? Our love was real. You just didn’t give me enough, you didn’t love all of me.”
V sadly shook his head. “No Rika...I’m sorry. I...it wasn’t real. I didn’t love you. I was just looking for comfort, for someone to-”
“LIAR! LIAR LIAR! OUR LOVE WAS REAL V! IT WAS, I FELT IT!!! How could you...how could you even say that...it was real...it was all real it was real...” Tears started streaming down her face. Saeran quickly turned around and held you even tighter.
“HEY! The intruders are here! Come get them immediately!” He screamed. A few believes started coming down the stairs, and Saeran laughed maniacally, telling you that you were all finally going to get what you deserved.
Saeyoung finally snapped back to his senses. He was confused, of course, but right now you were in danger. “Saeran...please let them go...”
Saeran laughed. “Yeah right. No way I’m letting them get away with you. I finally have something  you really want...and I’ll make sure to make it impossible for you to get it back...”
Fuck fuck fuuuuck.
You sighed and looked at Saeran.
“The fuck you looking at? You want to plead for your life maybe? Hahaha that’s hilarious. After all this I’ll make you my toy. You’ll never be able to get out of your room, and I’ll slowly watch as you break down, and that the only thing you feel is pain.”
“No Saeran...I’m...I’m sorry for this...”
Before Saeran could even ask you what the fuck you were doing, you bit him.
Hard.
Seven and V watched you in surprise, but they snapped out of it once they heard you yell RUN and when they saw the believers following after you.
Seven carried V, and every five seconds he would look behind him to check you were fine. Saeran and the believers were behind you, and they kept coming closer and closer. You managed to finally get out of the building, and Seven screamed at you to get in the car, but before you could do so, Saeran appeared in front of you, blocking your path once again and laughing maniacally.
Of course that was before you heard a zap and he dropped to the ground.
A man with longish brown hair appeared behind him, an annoyed look on his face and he motioned for you to follow him.
You all got into the car and quickly drove away from the place. Seven was driving, while you were in the backseat with V and the mysterious man was in the front seat. He was grumbling a lot, and he kept cursing at Seven for making them come out all this way, that he had no business in this whole affair and that Seven just had to drag his fucking ass over here. He also promised to overwork him like hell when they came home.
After a few hours, you made it to this cabin hidden in the woods. All of you made your way out and helped place V on the bed.
It was about 2am. You were tired and hungry.
Thankfully both Seven and Vanderwood (that’s what he was called) gave you a few snacks. They stayed in the living room space while you sat besides V’s bed, trying to nurse him, and you also texted the RFA, trying to explain everything that was going on.
At one point you may have fallen asleep. But when you woke up it was almost 4am. You went out to the living room where you only found Vanderwood on the couch, smoking.
“Umm...Mr. Vanderwood?”
He sighed and looked up from his computer.
“What?” He asked.
“Uhm...I just wanted to know where Seven was? Is he in the kitchen?”
He shook his head. “He went outside for a bit, that little brat. I’m not complaining though, since I finally get to have a smoke.”
You nodded and went outside.
It was chilly. The sky was cloudy.
You walked straight ahead, and after a few minutes, when you were about to give up,you found him.
He was sitting on the ground, in front of a beautiful pond. He was currently throwing rocks, trying to make them skip, but he failed. So many times.
You sat next to him, but he didn’t even look at you.
Honestly neither of you had talked much. It was sort of awkward, after all, before you literally got locked in a cell and everything, he had ignored you the whole time.
“Uhm...Seven...”
No answer. But you still wanted to figure out what had happened back there. Why was he so shcoked when he found Saeran, and why did Saeran hate him so much?
“I...wanted to ask something. How do you...know Ray..uhm, well...Saeran? Was he close to you? And why does he...why does he want to hurt you...? And...why did Rika call you Saeyoung?”
Seven sighed, and you looked at him.
Actually....looking at him from this angle....
You slowly reached out your hand, startling Sven, but you slowly took off his glasses. He looked at you.
And then you realized....
“The...The twins from that story....it was you guys...his name is Saeran, and yours is Saeyoung...”
Saeyoung glared at you.
“Hmph. Seriously. I’m the one who should be asking the questions here...!! But...it’s not all your fault...it’s V’s...you just got dragged into this whole mess for no reason. Ugh, how dumb to you have to be for this to happen?”
Saeyoung said, angrily as he grabbed his glasses and put them back on. You were taken aback.
“E-excuse me? Saeyoung what do you.-”
“Don’t call me that! Seriously you come waltzing around, let someone take you to a place you don’t know, then you play along with what they tell you! Do you have a death wish?! And now you’re coming here and trying to get into my stuff! Don’t do that. Go away and mind your own business, you have nothing to do with this.” He stood up and cleaned imaginary dust from himself. You stood up too.
“Well, I want to help. I may not have been a part of this at the beginning, but I am now, and I want to do everything I can and help you all. Especially you and your brother, what Rika did was awful! And Saeran, he’s being exploited, he can’t be there anymore he will end up breaking sooner or later!!”
“Jesus fucking christ! Just shut up! Why don’t you just call someone, a friend or maybe your family or something, and leave. I’m serious, you can’t be here anymore. Now go back and take care of V. Maybe once this is all over you can go and ask him out.” He grumbled.
“Wha...ask V out? I-Seven I don’t like him! Besides weren’t you just telling me to leave a few seconds ago? I don’t get what you’re even trying to say!”
“Yeah right. I mean this whole time you’ve been flirting with him, and you’ve spent the whole time by his side!”
“Yes, because I want to help Saeyoung. Seriously what’s up with you, I’ve never seen you like this before!! If it’s about Saeran we can get him back, but please let me help!”
“Why are you still insisting on that!!! Stop being so freaking stubborn and leave!”
“NO!” You screamed. You wanted to cry. You wanted to...yell.
Maybe even punch him. Or at least throw some pie in his face.
“You have nothing to do with this!!! WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE?!”
“BECAUSE I LOVE YOU SAEYOUNG! And I-I want to protect everyone, I want to protect you, the RFA,your brother! PLEASE, let me...let me help you all....”
Saeyoung looked at you, with his mouth open. You sniffed and tried to wipe the tears off your face.
Silence
Saeyoung slowly walked towards you, stopping mere inches away from your face.
“You...you love me...?” He asked.
You nodded and gently pushed him. “Which is why it hurts to see you say all those things you dumbass. I want to be there for you. For all of you.”
“Heh, the dumbass here is you. I...you know I’m dangerous right? I mean, do you even get the work I do? You could end up hurt...” he looked at the ground.
“I don’t care Saeyoung. As long as I get to be with you....I really love you, you know....and once all of this is over, and we get Saeran...I want to spend the rest of my time with you....”
Saeyoung looked at you and gently moved a strand of your hair away from your face. He smiled.
“Seriously...do you even know what you’re saying? You’re going to have to put up with a lot, you know.”
You smiled back. “I know. And I don’t care about how hard it gets, I’ll be with you the whole time.”
Saeyoung laughed. “That’s what she said.”
Before you could scream at him for that horrible joke he just said, Saeyoung grabbed you and kissed you; holding you tight. The kiss was messy, desperate, the two of you wanting more of each other.
But you pulled away when you heard your phone ring.
V was awake!
Saeyoung smirked and whispered you were going to continue later, and he grabbed your hand and quickly brought you to the cabin.
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V woke up, and he explained everything to you.
Saeyoung was mad. Really mad. You had to try and calm him down.
That night, when V went away for a walk and Vanderwood was in the other room, resting, Saeyoung explained to you more in depth about his situation. He told you about his father, a well known politician, and about his mom, how she would just drink and drink, and use him and his brother as blackmail.
He told you about his relationship with V and Rika. You immediately understood why he was angry at V. I mean, the man took his brother and then kind of helped his fiancée make him an angry ball of hate.
That wasn’t good.
You also explained about mint eye. Saeyoung was honestly heartbroken.
Your conversation was cut short though, as Vanderwood, who had at one point left to take a smoke, came back with a wounded V.
He had been stabbed.
All of you rushed to the hospital. On the way there, you got a phone call from Saeran, who was crying.
And he said....he said goodbye.
“Wait, Saeran, please wait!!!” But the call ended.
Saeyoung looked at you with a worried expression, and as soon as you dropped V off at the hospital, (where Jumin was waiting btw) Saeyoung got on the car. You got on after him, and he told you to leave, that it was fine. But you shook your head. You were going to do this together.
Saeyoung drove so fucking fast. He was nervous. You were too.
Then, as you came close to Mint Eye...you heard a loud bang, and you saw an explosion going off a few miles in front of you.
Saeyoung and you were speechless. You made your way to where Mint Eye was supposed to be, but you only found dust and debris.
You spent the whole night looking.
But you couldn’t find anything.
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Thankfully, a few years later V had recovered. He was traveling around the world. Rika was caught and she got sent to a mental institution.
You never found Saeran’s body.
It was tough.
The first few weeks he didn’t talk at all. I mean, the encounter that he had with his brother after about 8 years was one where Saeran just hated him.
It hurt. Knowing that Saeyoung wasn’t able to explain everything, to beg for forgiveness.
Saeyoung was absolutely devastated. Thankfully, you were always there for him.
You stood beside him on all his sleepless nights, and whenever he had a panic attack you were there to comfort him.
Even if it hurt, Saeyoung was slowly recovering. A few months ago he managed to get out of the house. And he formally asked you out.
You were finally settling down. Some days would be hard, others not so much. But you always stood by his side.
At about your third RFA party, V suddenly appeared!
Everyone was happy and pretty shocked too!
Saeyoung didn’t want to say hi, so he sulked on the side.
But then, behind V came out a figure...a figure that you recognized.
“SAERAN!” You screamed and you ran over to him, giving him a big hug. Saeran was startled at first, but he slowly wrapped his arms around you and rubbed circles on your back while you sobbed.
Saeyoung he...he dropped his glass filled with PhD Pepper.
When you let go of Saeran, his twin quickly walked over to him, speechless.
“Saeyoung...”
Before Saeran could say anything though, his twin quickly held him tight. The two of them were sobbing, and Saeran hugged his brother back too.
It was beautiful.
After that, Saeran started living with the both of you. He apologized to you many times, but you told him that it was fine, that you should focus now on the present.
Saeran had such a soft spot for you, sometimes he’d get a bit cranky with Saryoung though, but it was funny lol.
He made a garden, and every day the three of you watched movies while eating ice cream, sometimes Vanderwood even joining you!
Thankfully Saeyoung had managed to get them out of the whole agency thing, so they were just chilling.
AsforV, thankfully he got the help he needed, along with all of the RFA members (though they would sometimes come to you.)
In the end, all of you ended up living happily...ever....after
I’m sorry pft
The end!
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hey-hamlet · 4 years
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BNHA AU Ideas: True Might
Also on AO3! 
TL;DR:  Powers don't make the hero - passion does. Luckily for Izuku and Toshinori, this is something the quirkless have in droves.
AKA: All Might is a quirkless vigilante, One for All isn't a quirk that exists and 1A gets a whole 3-week buffer before villain's start kicking their face in as opposed to the 3 days of canon.
Basically: Quirkless!Vigilante!All Might and Quirkless!Successor!(gen ed) UA Student!Midoriya. It’s a riot.
Yagi is stupid strong, his only form in this AU is basically Muscle Form from canon, but he’s a little less ridiculously cut. Not quite chubby, but huggable. This is mostly because he A, isn’t a celebrity that needs to have a marketable image and B, he really likes carbs.
He’s not exactly a vigilante by choice, in his day and age quirkless kids weren’t permitted to apply to UA, either gen ed or heroics. When Nezu got the job, that all changed, but it was a solid decade too late for Yagi.
He’s admittedly a little bitter about it, but he refuses to do anything but his best. He might be a little snippier with Pros than he really needs to be but oh well.
Katsuki and Izuku are utterly enamoured with this crazy vigilante that just doesn’t lose, refuses to back down from a fight even when he’s outmatched, and somehow coming out victorious anyway, rescuing everyone. They have a tense relationship, but often find time to get together and just ramble about how cool All Might is, share theories and dissect his fights. It’s not uncommon for Katsuki to have been hurling abuse at Izuku during class, only to show up at his house after school with a backpack full of snacks and a notebook full of questions.
Izuku knows most of what Katsuki does is to keep his status in the school. If he showed pity to a dumb quirkless runt he’d be painted with the same brush. This doesn’t make what Katsuki has done right! Only Izuku doesn’t blame him because he’s way too forgiving.
Izuku is the smartest person Katsuki knows and vice versa – they are each other’s measuring stick. Katsuki shows Izuku bravery, Izuku shows Katsuki determination.
Episode 1 goes as it does but you see a real flash of regret when Katsuki tells Izuku to jump off a roof because they are kinda-sorta friends. Izuku looks so betrayed. We meet the slime villain like before, All Might saves Izuku and 100% doesn’t expect the kid to fanboy about him and ask for two autographs – one made out to a “Kacchan”.
“Can someone quirkless be a hero?” “The whole world will be against you. Most places won't even give you a shot – no matter how good you are. You’re better off picking something else.”
Izuku is crushed but he does understand. All Might leaves and Izuku trails off kinda hopelessly. He follows the sounds of explosions without meaning to.
It’s Katsuki! He’s dying! Like usual at this point lmao. Izuku rushes in much like canon, All Might shows up, pulls Katsuki free and slams a dumpster on the slime villains head before making a speedy getaway. The police rip into Izuku but Katsuki actually defends him. “You were doing fuck all while I fucking died – don’t knock the only asshole who tried.” Izuku quietly slips him the autograph before running off the scene. Katsuki cries because Izuku got that for him even after he was such a fucking bastard that day? He can’t bring himself to be a dick to Izuku again, even only for show.
All Might finds Izuku and he's like “Sorry I was an ass I was being a dick because I had low self-esteem – I’m quirkless. If you’ll have me I’ll make you into the best hero the world had ever seen
Izuku, obviously, says yes please!
Also, hypermobile Izuku with joint braces as support gear because just let me project please my arms are killing me ( I wrote this a while ago and yes. My arms are still killing me - yes even now). He gets them after All Might sees him miss a dodge because his ankles rolled beneath him. They support his joints beyond the normal range of strength, letting him do some crazy pivots and handsprings, making it easy to support all his weight on a single-arm with very little strain. They can also lock in place, lessening muscle fatigue if he needs to hold onto something for ages and preventing injury if he’s pushing against something. Produced by David and Melissa Shield and imported through Nighteye Heroics.
Is support gear illegal for civilians to own? Yes! But medical equipment isn’t so if you can just convince people its medical not support you can get away with a lot.
Yagi has no weapons himself, other than the random shit he picks up and swings at people, and has little support gear other than a communicator, panic button, and a whole lot of zip-ties.
Izuku should probably have weapons but I’m struggling to think of anything other than war fans because how cool would that look? Because Shonen they would also have the ability to create powerful downdrafts that would give a boost to a jump or dodge.
Probably doesn’t get them until later and needs to train with them.
In this AU, One for All isn’t a quirk. Rather, it’s a role, passed from quirkless person to quirkless person, the only people who can’t be hard countered by All for One. They tend to be vigilantes, crime lords or hero managers, doing their part to foil as much of All for One’s plans as they can, through whatever means necessary.
It’s a role with a pretty high fatality rate.
No one knows All Might is quirkless other than those close to him, they instead think he has a strength quirk. He’s the most prolific vigilante in Japan and is almost as much of a household name as canon All Might. More divisive though, with most people decrying his vigilante status when he could ‘easily make a respectable hero’. He’s also pretty brutal with his takedowns of some villains, leading a lot of people to call him an unregulated brute. Still more call him a villain which, legally he would be - were he using a quirk.
Nighteye is his contact in the heroics industry, gives him loads of inside info that’s typically not something he should be passing on. He’s still close with David Shield. Nighteye imports any costume parts he needs from David and leaves them at various pickup points for Yagi.
He went to college with David in America after Nana died; America having a quirk blind admission process helped - but he’d have gotten shit talked a lot if people didn’t just assume he had a strength quirk. Dude was and is crazy big.
David was one of the only people that knew he was quirkless
OH FOR FUN; Nighteye was also going to this American college and that’s where he met All Might. The three of them became the world’s strangest group of friends and may have lowkey done some slightly illegal vigilante work around the campus and surrounding town. They had a reputation for getting no sleep ever and being the most mismatched set of people
Secretly Smart Jock, Business Man with a Touch of E-boy, Science Hipster. They all tumbled into class together with varying levels of alive-ness. Nighteye and David were very much not morning people.
UA! It’s a ride. Izuku fails the practical but he’s not shocked – he was prepared for this.
He actually got like 30 hero points? But they refused to admit him on hero points alone due to his ‘deficiencies’. They don’t exactly tell Izuku this but Aizawa was there and he was furious.
Gets into 1C with Shinsou, Shinsou fuckin hates him on sight for reasons best known to him (It’s bc he was so god damned cheerful he just – assumed Izuku had a quirk. I love Shinsou but he’s more than a little judgemental). Izuku is like smiling through the pain because he just wanted to make a friend his age – Katsuki barely counts.
He sits with him at lunch and makes friends-ish with the hero kids who dragged Katsuki along, meets Ochaco again. She’s upset he didn’t get in – especially after he tells her he apparently got 30 points. The whole table gets mad on his behalf and hes embarrassed and happy.
Like day 2 he’s leaving gym and someone is like “Oh LMAO it’s Deku – he was in the year below me at Aldera. Only fuckin quirkless kid in the whole school; can’t believe he got into UA.” He turns to Izuku. “Who’s dick did you suck to get in you - ?” And Shinsou just decks him. He grabs Izuku – who is super confused fyi – and s p r i n t s. They have to stop after a while because hes having a panic attack and Shinsou doesn’t know what the fuck to do and he’s mad and upset and the sunshine boy is sobbing –
Aizawa shows up, having seen the (end of the) altercation and is ready to expel some gen ed kids he can’t legally expel – until he sees the two kids from the entrance exam he was interested in – including the quirkless kid who should have gotten in. Well he’s much more willing to hear them out.
100% requests expulsion on those 2 2E kids because that’s Discrimination and they should know better as second years. Nezu grants it because those 2 were di ck s
No USJ because no All Might – stuff like that will come,,, later : )
Sports Fest! Izuku and Shinsou kick ass, Aizawa is Watching. All Might may have gotten in as a crowd member with Nighteye and a visiting David and Melissa and they are cheering on their sun son. Also, Nighteye is going to go cheer on Mirio so he just got a pass to attend all 3 days of the sports festival. He’s just buying snacks on the second day because he’s never talked to one of the second years in his life.
Shinsou and Izuku make it to the tournament. Izuku has been training pretty seriously with All Might for a while now and hes a very good fighty boy. Makes it to the 3rd round of the tournament where he loses to Iida. Shinsou makes it second where he loses to Katsuki. Izuku is like “Iida might you be Ingenium’s brother or something?” “Yes, I am!” “OH MY GOD I LOVE INGENIUM ISN’T HE THE COOLEST” “YES MY BROTHER IS AMAZING” Shinsou is just watching while faintly amused.
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Howdy there!! Who are the li’s you fancy the most from LITG??
hi! thanks for the ask!
i honestly dunno who’s my top answer, cuz they’re all interesting in their own way
I’m only going to talk about female LIs cuz the only male routes I’ve finished are Bobby and Jake, and I tapped through most of Jake and only ended with Bobby on my first run cuz I never unlocked Marisol, so I’m not the best source lol
Talia:
She’s just so chill but has no problem standing up for MC, she has her back no matter what
Which, like, what a queen
She’s the original and only one of 4 LIs, which maybe it’s just me, but for a game based on an incredibly heteronormative reality show, allowing representation for queer audiences from launch is such a big deal and so cool to me, so Talia’s kind of special in my mind
She was also my first LI so nostalgia points
And she’s such an easy LI, not much drama on her route outside of Lucy, just her having MC’s back as the boys make themselves look like idiots
And she has so much potential, like I know some people think her only personality trait is fancying MC, which I mean, is a little fair, but there’s so many opportunities for her in fics and headcanons to develop the good amount of information we got on her in 13 days
I absolutely love how self-aware and confident she is
She just went for what she wanted, struggled a bit with commitment at first, because who wouldn’t, but after that it was smooth sailing
Like obviously what she said in the Beach Hut at the beginning of the season wasn’t great for MC, but she knew exactly what she wanted out of her time on the show
She was confident in herself and her sexuality so much so that she was just down to have a fling with a girl and not worry about how it would effect the show
And then she *coupled up* with that same girl, not even giving a shit about the rules or anything
A queen
Allegra:
I know she’s not an official LI, but her arc is what got me into writing so she gets a million points for that
I love what could have been done with her progression if she was given an actual route, I’m a sucker for some good enemies to lovers, but alas, she’s canonically a bad bitch with a lot of internalised homophobia yet enough confidence to ask MC out
I still love her
Marisol:
I know so many people hate her, and I get it, but I do really like her growth
Maybe it’s cuz I’m pretty analytical too, but her analyses never bothered me or anything, and now that I’ve played her route so many times, it’s pretty obvious that that’s a defense mechanism, and I understand that
She very much so has a “figure their weaknesses out before they have a chance to figure mine out” attitude, and I’m 99% positive it’s because of the ex that Elisa reminded her of
So not only has she been burned in the past, I’m willing to bet it was by the only woman she’s been in a serious relationship with
I really have no problem with her commitment issues, it’s understandable, and I can really empathise with her fear of coming out, it’s absolutely terrifying even if you’ve accepted it and bought a flag, saying the words can be really difficult
My biggest issue is her entitlement and immaturity, I guess?
Like her using Graham to make MC jealous just feels like an excuse to crack on with him and still have MC available for when she’s ready
I understand her being scared to couple up, but playing games to distract herself just made things with MC worse
And unless youre on her route, and sometimes even when you are, it’s clear to me that she expects things and has no problem saying what they are, but going after them is a problem?
Like her going after Lurik even though they don’t have a connection, or Gary even when he’s with Hannah
But then it never works and she gets sad and I melt because I’m weak
ALSO, can I just say how awful it is that Lucas and Henrik don’t pick her unless they have to???
Like cmon she deserves MC after that
And when they finally couple up? And she’s all soft? The GROWTH ohmygod
Anyway I love who Marisol became, maybe not everything she started out as, but definitely the person she ended the season as, more confident and self assured and willing to be vulnerable
It’s precious
Elisa:
I still haven’t done an Elisa route
I tried to a couple months ago, but dumping Marisol felt so cruel, what the hell was Fusebox thinking with that?? 
I do really like that they learned from their mistake though, even if they went in the opposite direction
From what I’ve seen of Elisa, she can be pretty sweet, I’ve seen her described as a Lucas-Bobby hybrid, and while that’s not the most interesting personality to me, I will say that she’s a really cool character that FB messed up on
Why did they make her a straight up villain???
And why ONLY her???
None of the other female LIs have been villains or had such a complete 180
Like her going from shouting at Chelsea, who is literally meant to be MC’s ride or die and the person outside of your LI that youre supposed to want to defend and avenge, to “i cant even sleep because im pining so hard”
I know the treatment of black women has been discussed before, specifically in regards to Hope and Erikah, and it is by no means my place to speak on it, but I definitely think something’s going on with Elisa
Anywayyyy, I love her archetype
The celebrity and influencer has so much potential, to the point that I wrote a one shot without even knowing her lmao 
And she’s so confident in a way that’s so different from Marisol
She doesn’t even care if MC’s happily coupled up, she WILL get in her pants and I respect that
In conclusion, Fusebox did her dirty and I’m probably going to try and retcon some canon for her in the future
Lottie:
Ohmygod
Lottie
A goth babe
Lottie
Yeah, anyway, so I love her
Her growth is just unbeatable in my opinion
Yeah, she still has her flaws by the end of the season, but she went from ready to rip everyone’s throat out to biting her tongue around Hannah
And her and MC???
And the development between them??? 
Ugh
No matter what way you swing it, you’ve either got best friends to lovers or enemies to lovers and I adore both
And her aesthetic is one of my favourites, I’m alt myself and having a character like that is just so cool
My Runaways MC is a ball of sunshine with some hidden darkness specifically because Lottie’s such a dark cloud but can start shining with the right person, and that’s my absolute favourite trope
But man were the wedding episodes a cop out
Why couldn’t they give her the Noah treatment? Or the single treatment? Where they just get together after the show? Same with Hannah, why are they giving such an intense confession after who knows how long of literally nothing, like no communication even????
Don’t get me wrong, I kinda simultaneously love it for the angst and yearning, but it just… makes no sense?
So yeah, amazing bat lady that I seriously vibe with and wish my MC could have wifed up
Hannah:
I know this is a little controversial buuuut
I fucking love Hannah
But only OGHannah, Returning Hannah was butchered and I will never let that go
And it was such a toxic message too, that she needed to change herself and her appearance just to get a guy to like her?
Fuck that, Original Hannah was amazing and perfect exactly as she was
I love her trope, too, the naivety and how obvious and clear it was that she’s still learning about the world and relationships, to the point that it’s going to get her in trouble
And her obsession with fairy tales? 
Fucking adorable ohmygod
I started a fic a while ago that I think I’m gonna scrap, that just indulged in the fairy tale metaphors and stuff because I just love how cute it is lmao
If she wasn’t dumped, I think she could have had amazing growth alongside Lottie, and their friendship/kinda, probably, most-definitely-if-MC’s-not-there-more-than-a-friendship growing together would have been so good
In an alternate reality Hope was dumped instead, and that helps me sleep at night
I firmly stand by the fact that Noah should have been the deciding factor between Hope and Hannah/MC, where Lottie said something that screwed with his head earlier in the day to make sure her friends were safe
Noah should have saved Hannah/MC and Hope should have returned with Rocco, hellbent on revenge and proving herself
That would have been so good for Noah stans and such good drama, that actually made perfect sense
Hope was fully expecting that she’d get picked by Noah because they’d spent three days attached at the hip and then to just… not have that happen. It would have driven her insane and if there was then a scene with MC where she just like, gives up
Like she’s spent the past two days grafting Noah but he won’t make up his mind and she’s just done and MC can comfort her or fight with her and you just get to humanize her make her vulnerable and hurting and I fucking WISH they did something like that, even for RHannah
And Hannah’s growth in the Villa would have been so amazing
I think her idea of a perfect guy is definitely too much, and I’m not advocating that she settles by any means, just that she could have learned that there are things more important than money
That conversation on day 1 where you choose between money, kindness, and intelligence still baffles me
Like why are you a gold digger Hannah?!?!
Why don’t you just want a Prince/ss Charming???
Her and Hope should have swapped and I don’t understand why they weren’t
I mean, I do really like Hope, but Hannah’s just so cute and has so much to learn and her struggling in the Villa just to have a lightbulb moment with MC would have been precious and now I want to write it dammit
Anyway, Hannah is adorable and had so much potential and she never should have returned if they were just going to scrap everything that made her Hannah, except for snooty literature
I wanna listen to her rattle on about Belle and Mulan and every other Disney Princess and what they meant for representation and progress in media and then compare them to their original stories like a dweeb and I would have melted on the spot
Like yes, please tell me more about how gruesome Cinderella is
She should have shown up at the finale and hugged MC and been innocent and sweet so I could have just lost my shit for like a half hour
But stan OGHannah, burn RHannah
AJ:
Adorable, precious, denied an arc outside of coming out
I am not exaggerating when I say that I cried at 4:30 in the morning at her blushing face when playing the first two days
It’s just so fucking cute and I’m a sap and I don’t know why it made me cry, but it did okay?!
And her coming out was such good representation!!! By far the best thing in Boat Party, and I’m so proud of the progress FB’s made in queer representation at the very least
I know she’s pretty one dimensional, but most of S3 is unfortunately
Her being available right off the bat was also such a win, I’m positive it’s the reason she had so many stans
If her and Yasmin had switched or her and Lily, they would have been the ones that were dominating Reddit polls and stuff
And I know she’s written as masc but I just can’t really see it? Like I can’t see her in a dress, but outside of a few clothing items, I guess I just can’t see it? Maybe androgynous is more the word for my image of her, like definitely a mix
She’ll wear a skirt under the right circumstances, but never a dress, a crop top with a flannel, her prom outfit that’s like a frilly jumpsuit, stuff like that? idk im not a lesbian
Her route for me was so glitchy, but I know that if MC’s stolen from her by Yasmin, Tai, or Ciaran, she has some really cute scenes and I wish I could have seen them
And I know some people were ragging on her for the eyelash at the end of the scene but I thought that was just a perfect callback - maybe it’s the writer in me
Basically, AJ’s adorable and why did Ciaran have to split her and MC up, not cool dude
Yasmin:
I forgot I was doing a Yasmin route a while ago, but from what I’ve seen and played, she’s really sweet 
I hate that she’s almost nonexistent outside of her route
Give us a mysterious musician friend, you cowards!
I saw that she sings to MC on the final date and damn is that cute
Her eyeshadow kinda throws me off, but her stuffed animal makes up for it
And I’m salty that Yasmin the Lamb disappeared too, that was such a nice detail that made me start a Yasmin route
She’s distant and self-assured, but has a soft, gooey, nostalgic center and I wish we saw more of that, even if we weren’t on her route
My final thoughts on Yasmin: An artsy indie icon that I really need to stop getting distracted from and finish her route
Lily:
Again, don’t know much about her, but she seems really cool
Her shaving her head between the finale and Boat Party is such a flex and I wish she did it right before Boat Party so we could see her in all her bald glory
She’s into cars, right? And… architecture?
Idk, I barely remember my own name, let alone a 10 minute date from months ago
But I’ll definitely get around to doing her route at some point, maybe just to write for her, we’ll see
Elladine:
I know she’s not an LI, but MC so should have been able to run away with her
I missed that option in S3
I kinda get why they didn’t do that, but Boat Party’s just so messy in general
And I would include Genevieve here, but she’s so cute with Seb that I’d feel bad splitting them up
But Elladine had actual problems with Nicky!!!
Why did they mention it for it to never pay off??
And I’m so mad that the hype around her died when it was revealed she wasn’t an LI or the badass of the season, because I still adore how sweet she is
I also want to brag that before we got a name I was calling her Emma and that’s just on example of my almost psychic-ness
But yeah I wanted Ell to be a run away option and I’m salty that she wasn’t
Know what, fuck it, Viv too, she’s smart and cool as hell, let us love these awesome women FB, you cowards!!!
I have no idea who would be my number 1 based on canon, but if we’re talking hypotheticals, I think my answer, as strange as it is, is Hannah.
I just love what she could have been, but by no means what she is. 
It’s so awkward to know her for three days, not see her for three weeks, then spend a couple more days with, a couple weeks at most, just for her to write a whole ass book about MC?? And tell her about it with that hair????
No thanks, I’ll stick with closeted sapphic horse girl nerd Hannah because I guess that’s somehow my type??? Oh god what the fuck I swear I’m not a total weirdo
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reachexceedinggrasp · 4 years
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Not being a fan of horror movies in general, it was on a bizarre whim (mostly driven by my curiosity about any film with such a unique imprint that it is both cult and mainstream and somewhat driven by depressive dissociation that makes me avoid doing productive things) that I decided to watch Hellraiser a couple days weeks ago (this post has been getting bigger in my drafts for a while- who is keeping time in quarantine dates are arbitrary). About which I knew nothing whatsoever except that it was the thing Pinhead was from and maaaaybe something vague about the existence of cenobites in general from having seen action figure packaging. As I gather is most non-horror people’s experience with the franchise.
Anyway, I watched it and because I am a strange obsessive person I did the thing I always do, which is compulsively seek out ways to stay with an interesting/significant film to grok it better and listen to people talk about why they think it’s good, so I learnt about the sequels without watching them. Finally relented and watched first 2 and then later 3 as I got more and more sucked in to having Opinions about this property which is so totally not my thing lmao.
Anyway, in my post-tros defiance I might have been even more primed than usual for this kind of deep commitment to my brand, but it is made shockingly easy by this series to not only root for and woobieise Pinhead, but to ship him with the main heroine/closest thing it has to a consistent protagonist and needless to say I’ve fallen into a bit of a rabbit hole.
(Yes, friends, I am now going so hard that I am woobieising and shipping an edgelord horror icon with pins stuck in his face. I who am not even a villain fucker. Allow me to reiterate that it is STARTLING how easy they make it and there’s an entirely plausible leg to stand on that both are well-founded in canon. I don’t know what I expected from these movies or that character but it definitely wasn’t this. Did not anticipate, would not have imagined.)
Enormous amounts of incoherent rambling under cut
Out of the gate, none of the Hellraiser films are exactly masterpieces (I mean, I only actually watched the first three, however all reports are that they don’t get better), but they are different and interesting. I completely get why the original is considered a classic and why there are dedicated fans who want to see it taken seriously. There’s enormous potential on the table, loads of creativity and ideas, it’s just that it was never organised into something that hung together and transcended. The first one is contained and narratively solid including some symbolic depth, the second one is an ambitious mess with no plot and which completely falls apart around half way through, and the third one is goofy/not a little bit of an Americanised dumbed-down sellout but again reasonably solid.
But it never really was or became the thing I think the biggest fans saw or remember seeing in it. I’ve run across a couple people mentioning that they went back to watch them again after years and it was a very different experience than they expected from their recollection. The aspects with the greatest popularity/longevity were very minor, almost incidental elements of the original. More hints than anything fully formed. Really, I feel like this becoming a franchise was built on two things:
1. the impressive SFX, originally used to serve resonant themes and well supported by everything around it (especially the score)- the original being just a solid little movie with a very effective hook (lol, see what I did there- hooks, cenobites, get it?)
2. Pinhead.
Well, to be fair, it’s the incredibly memorable and instantly timeless character designs of the cenobites in general, with Pinhead just being by far the most compelling and the only one who’s really a character rather than a prop. He's an extremely arresting and visually interesting figure who also had all the best lines, played by an actor with more charisma in his part than anyone else in the film, and he has an enormous weight of intrigue about him.
People really wanted to see something come of this character, something to make good on the strange gravitas he has, but then it never happened. I really think that frustration is what kept this thing going for thirty years- audiences kept saying ‘more Pinhead’ and neither they nor the filmmakers seemed to know what they wanted from that ‘more’ or how to do it. Other than the tragedy of their humanity in Hellbound (almost completely wasted- the moment of connection with Kirsty is brilliant and seems so promising, then nothing comes of it but a staggering anti-climax where they all die in seconds to beef up a new villain), the vaguely suggested idea of what the cenobites are in the original film is infinitely better than any subsequent expansion on them. Although the third movie at least leans in to the pathos and nuance of the character by expanding on Elliot Spenser (the human who became Pinhead) even while eroding it by having ‘Unbound’ (aka cut off from his humanity) Pinhead become a slasher villain.
It’s all a fortuitous accident that no one ever figured out how to respond to, since Pinhead only got all the lines and became so prominent in the first place because two of the other three cenobite actors were unable to speak in their makeup. He wasn’t even conceived as the focus among the group, he became ‘Lead Cenobite’ (his credited name) because he could talk. They didn’t anticipate the way the audience latched on to him at all and didn’t plan the things which caused it. He is so striking because his look is the most uncanny (his form is most recognisably human, his mutilations are most subtle, but that makes it all the more unsettling to see this obviously living person who has quite a soft countenance and carries himself with a sort of melancholic, kingly dignity have a bunch of nails driven into his skull) and he’s so interesting because the dichotomy of that creates an immediate implication of pathos.
And I’m now experiencing enormous frustration with something that should be fucking predictable at this point, which is the mostly male, mostly powerlevels orientated online fanbase completely missing the boat on who this character is. Totally failing to pick up what was actually compelling about him or why they think he’s awesome besides his general aura of dangerous majesty, which is basically entirely a product of the actor’s stage presence and comportment in synergy with the costume. It’s not what he does because he barely does anything until the third film (which a lot of these fans don’t like anyway). Diving into various reviews and retrospectives about the franchise, I heard so many times a dude saying he hated that Pinhead was given a backstory and especially that it was implied to be the tragic downfall of a sympathetic character. They all had the same reasoning- it’s bad because ‘humanising the monster’ is bad, as it removes their threat.
Oi yoy yoooooy. Let’s break down what’s wrong with that:
a) Pinhead (and by extension cenobites in general because they are a unit in the first film) was not the villain of the story, he’s not even a villain. Frank and Julia are the villains. When the sequel was greenlit, it was intended to be Julia’s villain origin story and she was to go on to be the big bad of the series. The cenobites are neutral and operate according to rules by which no one who faces them is wholly innocent or unwilling. The only time someone opens the box with a true absence of desire (Tiffany, who solves puzzles by compulsion not conscious will), Pinhead orders she be spared without any stipulations or exchange and leaves her to wander around the labyrinth as she pleases. But you can make a deal with the cenobites even if you’re not wholly innocent as long as you are extremely careful, because they can be reasoned with. They are like very dark Gothic faeries (or maybe genies) in the original film. They are amoral rather than being evil. It’s a very ‘careful what you wish for’ kind of situation. They are repugnant in their extremity but terrifyingly recognisable, holding up a mirror to fundamentally human vice.
The cenobites actually stand between Frank and Julia and victory over good. Pinhead saves Kirsty’s life in both the original and the sequel. These movies aren’t ever the most coherent even at their best, so it’s fuzzy, but he even says ‘this is not for your eyes’ to Kirsty before they reclaim Frank. Which implies he actually values her remaining innocence and wouldn’t have her traumatised (yes, they then go after her, I did say this movie isn’t super consistent- but one could argue they think she reneged on her deal by saying she won’t give them ‘the man who did this’- which she still thinks is her father at that point, and also that they never actually promised her anything). The cenobites aren’t here to rip up innocent victims, they expand the awareness of consenting burn outs for whom there are no other thrills left. I understand in the original novella there’s a much stronger element of ‘are you sure you want this?’ before the chains come out. Either way, the overall momentum is that they don’t do anything to people who don’t summon them or call to them in some way. Kirsty was curious and knew the box was dangerous, so there was both knowledge and desire involved in her solving it.
(BDSM is icky icky nope, one of my biggest squicks, but this movie has nothing to do with real life subcultures or the practice of real fetishes- it’s a fable about vice and how it can consume us. Frank is a sociopathic hedonist in pursuit of ultimate pleasure, Julia is so self-absorbed and bored with her life she’ll do anything to get back the thrill she got from Frank, Elliot was a soldier traumatised by WWI who turned to novel corporeal experiences in attempt to feel anything- to believe he was alive [this is implied, not fully spelled out but I am inclined to read Elliot as tragic because even Julia is a nuanced character with whom we can empathise during her downfall so it would be consistent and because he is infinitely more interesting that way]. The attractive quality of the cenobites is their representation of taboo in abstract, of liminal experience and arcane knowledge, not any expectation that one would actually enjoy having hooks through one’s face and find that appealing. To me it’s obviously not about anything so literal as something you might actually do in real life. Which is why it was silly for BDSM ‘lifestyle’ people to be offended by it or say it’s a negative portrayal. It’s not a portrayal, it has nothing to do with them. It’s not a condemnation of your gimp outfit, it’s dealing with universal primal themes with heightened stakes. One of the writers and the actress who played Julia both said the same thing.)
b) Literal monsters are never as scary or as evil as humans. It’s not the cenobites and their strangeness you have to fear most, but the very familiar and mundane sins of humanity- lust, greed, selfishness, gluttony, etc. Again, Frank and Julia are the villains. Julia is the really horrifying element of the film because she is a normal person who becomes so profoundly corrupted that she starts enjoying hammer murders for their own sake, and what makes it scary is that she is at first somewhat sympathetic. We’re with her, in her pov, for quite a bit of the film. This is the effectiveness of well-written horror (horror which creates an atmosphere of dread around a story we’re invested in rather than just throwing out cheap jumpscares and gore), it puts you in an emotionally uncomfortable position as a viewer, so that you are in a state of constant tension.
c) One of the most unique and fascinating things about these films is their surprising empathy and indulgence in romanticism. Humanising monsters and monsterising humans is the DNA of this universe and that’s exactly why the first two films stood out so much. It’s not a flaw! It’s why we’re still talking about it! If not for romanticism and pathos, it would be a boring little cautionary tale about obsession. Gothic romance and tragic monsters, grotesques, the B&tB element??? it’s all part of the backbone and is strongest in the original two films! for real!!!! all the human villains are in love. they all wax poetic about the beauty in ugliness. the heroine shows the monsters their lost humanity!! Pinhead elects to save her even before being stripped of his supernatural powers and turned physically human- meaning it’s not as simple as him being split into two halves (where only the entirely human version of him would care about her) or just human solidarity on his part. There is something personal and special in how he treats her compared to any other character who solves the box. He has always liked her.
Then these grim, bloody horror movies throw me the weirdest bone in the second and third films. So I was just interested in the first film as a notable moment in cinema and had a vague curiosity about its concepts. No actual emotions about it except as noted. I was general audience and my thoughts were basically that, although it was a fun little British horror movie with fairly strong character work, the popular appeal was almost entirely based on how cool the cenobites look. Everyone being most attracted to Pinhead because he looked coolest and he spoke and had this tremendous presence. That was where I was at as well. But my love of behind the scenes info got me watching sequels and BRO- Kirsty, the heroine, discovers a picture of Elliot in his army uniform in Channard’s collection of Research Material. She finds him familiar, pockets the picture, and at some point either then or later realises that he is Pinhead. Already my ears have perked up because the fact that she can recognise him is indicative of unexpected attention to his face on her part (because he is not easily recognisable as the same person at all).
And, armed with this picture and this knowledge, she eventually tells him who he is (the cenobites were not even aware they were once mortal and didn’t remember their human lives). He then fights on her behalf before being gradually depowered to human, sharing a moment with her as the man she freed, and finally sacrificing himself to allow her to escape. That’s movie 2.
Hell on Earth (movie 3) has the entire plot being about his humanity as essential to balancing the power/appetite of the thing he became. So now his worst instincts/pure appetite is walking free without his conscious mind to control or temper it. The ‘ordered’ part of him which followed rules and just had a job to do came from him being human. Not sure what the implications are on that, that’s the opposite to how things usually work in these stories- humans are always free will/chaos and the supernatural entities are bound by rules. Anyway. He’s separated into ‘Unbound’ Pinhead and the ghost of Elliot. 
Tragically, Kirsty is not in this movie and thus is not the one who gets to meet his ghost (which, interestingly, seems to be the complete person Elliot was in life- apparently nothing in the cenobite part of him is essential to his personality or being, Unbound Pinhead is just his physical body animated by accumulated bad juju), talk to him, and eventually restore him to one piece, but I’m still into it as a concept (and I like Joey from Hell on Earth, she’s a decent character, it would just mean so much more if it were Kirsty). Despite the rejoining scene being quite awful and then undermined as pointless because he just keeps on being evil (or maybe they haven’t fused yet and both wills are battling it out in there temporarily- did I mention these movies aren’t super coherent a few times already?), the basic idea is there. Huge thematic potential.
And I feel like the vibe of Gothic Romance was pretty blatant and intentional in Hellbound (#2) when Kirsty reminds him of his humanity. He fights and then dies for her, after all. They give him a real, full-on Hero Shot both when he fights as a cenobite and especially after he’s become human and decides to go down with a weapon in his hand. And the look between Elliott and Kirsty before he's killed contains novels imo. That five seconds is the most interesting thing in this entire franchise for me, I would absolutely not have watched more of the films or spent however long rambling here about it if not for that moment. The latest sequel which shouldn’t exist did do one great thing for the world (the world in this example being me) and that’s have him end up human again at the end. Which led to this fanfic, which is the spectacular domestic angst hurt/comfort I needed and need right now.
But Hell on Earth seems to be very much romanticising him deliberately as well. I’ve seen someone claim it was originally written for Kirsty and there would have been a ~vibe between she and Elliot, possibly a kiss. I do not know if any part of that is at all true, but I wouldn’t be super shocked if it was. It’s not implausible. In fact, I find it very plausible. That’s the size of the B&tB monstershipping bone this franchise has unexpectedly thrown me: I could believe it of them to go there. (Apparently they do kiss in a vision or something in one of the comics but the plot and characterisation of the comic continuity also sounds completely off the rails awful so I will not be reading those.)
(Sidebar: The funniest shit I’ve ever heard was from a video about the Kirsty/Pinhead(and/or Elliot) ship wherein it was noted some people object to it because of the age difference.
The age difference.
So, we live in a world where purity wankers can watch and enjoy a Hellraiser movie but are worried about an age difference being problematic. Not his being an amoral genie from the pain dimension covered in mutilations and in the habit of torturing people, but being older than her. Hellraiser has multiple skinless people, flesh vampirism, dudes getting torn apart by chains, a super molesty uncle who wants to rape his niece, murder, sadism, etc. But an age difference is problematic. And which age difference? Because I bet you three million dollars they don’t give a fuck that Elliot/Pinhead is over a hundred years old in the context of the story (he is a WWI solider who became immortal, I remind you). It’ll be about the physical age difference between the actors. Anyone who brings this shit up is always completely predictable and completely shallow. I don’t know what their age difference actually is (it doesn’t look that big lmao, it never even occurred to me to wonder), but she’s definitely an adult so there is no possible scenario in which it matters.
Honestly though. Imagine being okay with this franchise in general and then trying to play the ~problematic age difference~ card. Kirsty feeds her douche husband and four other people to Pinhead in one of the latter day DTV sequels (not literally- he does not eat people. Feel like I should note that for anyone who isn’t familiar still reading this out of morbid fascination with my descent into madness).
Okay, I looked up the actors- they’re only 12 years apart LMAO who cares. Weak.)
Speaking of which (his popularity). Why are people so down on Hellraiser 3 (Hell on Earth)? Pinhead’s OOC behaviour is explained (to the extent than anything is ever explained in this universe) and his character is actually deepened (which people complain about more than the fact that he’s unhinged and Evil McEvilface? which thing actually bothers you, I’m confused? either you like that he’s not a monster or you don’t- everyone says the first two are the only good ones but Pinhead was humanised and made tragic in the second one, he also sacrificed his life to save Kirsty and they ALSO say the third one is lame because he’s made into a slasher villain without nuance??), but I see so much complaining about the less serious tone and wisecracks etc. Meanwhile. Hellbound has even more puns/dumb villain wisecracks than Hell on Earth does.
Channard is non-stop ludicrous as soon as the tentacle attaches to his head. And Hellbound also has not one, but two big floppy anti-climaxes and is narratively entirely pointless. 3 is a much better movie. Yes, Hellbound had tonnes of interesting ideas and evocative visuals, but it doesn't actually make any sense and there's no arc for anyone. There’s no plot, there’s no conflict which gets resolved unless you count the brief moment Channard enjoyed being a classic cenobite before he was taken over by the giant prehensile penis. What the fuck was that anyway? Who knows. Nothing about it is ever explained. The tentacles were also shown pounding the nails into Elliot’s head in Pinhead’s origin montage, so one imagines it must be Leviathan. But why would Leviathan take over Channard directly and why would it cause him to become an Austin Powers villain? When the original cenobites fight him, does this mean they are rebelling against Leviathan itself?
Like, someone who thinks this movie is a masterpiece should really try to make an outline for what the fuck it’s about, because it makes no sense even on a solely thematic or symbolic level.
I think that while Hell on Earth is far, far more pedestrian than the first two films and much less thoughtful, it's pretty much on par in regard to execution. The rich atmosphere and striking novelty of the original hugely elevated it, but it's rough in a lot of ways. The bad dubbing, the weird pacing, characters behaving bizarrely to make the plot work, massive logic holes you actually notice while you're watching (if you don't notice them until the third time, then they don't matter- but if you're asking 'wait what?' and thinking about that instead of being engaged in the story then it does matter), some cheesy dialogue, some weak blocking of scenes, how blasé the cinematography sometimes is, etc. What was brilliant about it was its ideas and its visuals, what made it stand out was that it was doing something radically different than its contemporaries. Hell on Earth abandons the serious dramatic tone and becomes more bog standard horror schlock with bog standard set pieces, but its plot and mythology makes just as much sense and the production aspects are just as good or better if less ambitious and less inventive.
I don't find it worse as a piece of entertainment, just commercialised and gentrified to the original's organic auteur flavour. Clunky, creaky creative vision from an artist is preferable to a sleeker, more soulless product, but Hell on Earth isn’t a soulless product imo. It legitimately tries to do something cogent and worthwhile which shows a love of the material, it makes an effort with its characters, it just lacks in execution. It lacks finesse, strangeness, and subtlety in a really big way.
You know, the super try hard ‘I’m so edgy’ church scene (which is dumb on numerous levels), the lametastic and instantly dated ‘modern’ cenobites, the heavy metal club, the crassness of it in comparison to the more elegant, seductive qualities of the first two. etc. etc. Those things drag it down. The bungled writing and terrible visuals of the final showdown with Unbound Pinhead drag it down (I’d argue the original suffers similarly and Hellbound even more so from illogical, dorky climatic showdowns- honestly what bothers me about Hell on Earth is the goofiness of the visual more than anything else- the climaxes of the first two were dramatically empty added action where this one actually had a lot going for it, but they shot it so badly and the special effects are both badly conceived and badly executed. Why shoot Pinhead in an extreme close-up fish eye lens?? Why make a horrible blob morph?? looking regal and dignified is at least 75% of his effectiveness as a character!!). But it hangs together and flows well. It doesn’t bore me and only left me asking ‘what?’ once or twice instead of fairly regularly. In Hellbound you ask ‘what?’ approx once every other scene if you pay too much attention.
There’s no consistency to this shit. Whatever. Anyway. They’re still trying to do a remake and I’ve never heard anything so ill-advised and utterly pointless. What worked and created something special wasn’t the raw material from the story, people don’t remember the film for its plot and don’t want to see that story executed better or with ‘better’ modern effects (not that it would be better, it’ll be all CGI and have infinitely less impact- the original works because it’s visceral, tangible, fleshy). There’s only one icon from this franchise and he can’t be replaced because it was the marriage of actor and image which created him. The scripts never really understood the character’s final form and it’s already been demonstrated that anyone else in the costume looks like they’re playing dress up and is instantly rendered ridiculous when they speak.
What was needed was a better sequel with a meaningful story that did the character justice so the audience could feel satisfied the opportunity was seized and the most was made of him, and that tragically never happened. 2 and 3 make some effort, but the scripts just aren’t there. Then, no one after that ever considered trying to create closure for Kirsty or giving some kind of emotional throughline to the actual Hellraiser narrative with the only other remaining OG- the one who has the special relationship with Pinhead. Instead they just threw him into unrelated horror scripts haphazardly because people wanted to see him.
There’s absolutely no profit in going back to the beginning and starting over now, the thing that had so much potential and deserved to be explored won’t be there.
And in meaningless observations I must put somewhere lest I continue to think about them for the rest of my natural life: it’s weird that the most popular official art of Pinhead is apparently from early proof of concept photos they did when they were still figuring out the make up. I know this because he has blue eyes in it instead of the black sclera contact lenses he has in the movie. Those pictures were used for the sequel promo as well! The cover of the sequel OST is a different photo also without contacts, at least three notable posters are therefore from those concept pictures. No one who shows those photos in their videos about the series has ever mentioned this, so I feel compelled to mention it.
(I would guess it must be because they had no idea he was going to become the face of the franchise and so didn’t have other promo pics prepared/money to do a new shoot when the audience decided who the poster boy should always be. They were making the sequel before the first film even came out, so they didn’t know the reaction until production was well underway. Still, you’d think in making the film’s main theatrical poster they would have rectified this jarring inconsistency. It’s wild to me it was used not only for the original, but the sequel. It’s so noticeable! Those black lenses aren’t subtle!
Actually wait, I was going to add images here to show the nobody who will read this wall of text how noticeable it is and discovered a sequel promo pic without contacts that was definitely shot for the sequel because it has the female cenobite played by a different actress. The plot thickens on this completely trivial and uninteresting mystery no one but me will ever care about. So idk, maybe they lost the contacts? Why do I want to know? I want to know.)
Anyway look:
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Super noticeable, right? His real eyes are such a pale blue, it stands out even more than it otherwise would. I was like ‘why does that famous poster image look so strange to me now that I’ve seen the film...? oh!’ and then became desperate for someone else to point it out lmao. Yes, I am crazy, why do you ask.
And the other one is that there’s something wrong with his makeup in Hellbound during the scene where he gives Kirsty the pyramid version of the box. The prosthetic is super thick/maybe not applied properly? around the jaw and it bothers me every time someone shows clips from that part.
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Hello! I hope you're not swarmed in all the matchup requests lol, but I have to say - they're great! I love how detailed they are and how much work and thought you put into them! It's admirable, to be honest.
But of course I came here for my own matchup lmao. I'm polyamorous so I'm okay with multiple matches (if you want to, ofc).
So, I'm an INTP, aesthetically edgy, nonbinary.... something, ig. I'm a retired weeb that became a kpop stannie and an e-girl/e-boy but I'm still very much a nerd when it comes to entertainment, like video games and stuff.
I've been told that I look intimidating ever since I was a kid and people tend to be lowkey scared of me at first - add to that the fact that I don't talk much with strangers and have a permanent murderous gaze. But once you force your way into befriending me I become a very loyal and chaotic middle school boy with a negative amount of braincells.
I used to be known as a cryptid - never took pictures, never left my room, so quiet you'd never know if I'm currently in the same room as you or not (my friends would call me irl Kuroko - yes, that even applied to when we played basketball in school). But then, one day I decided that I'm bored of being boring and turned into the loud, vulgar, hot friend (according to my friends, again) that you'd book a room with in a closed off apartment complex but then decided to get some kebabs at midnight and then had to climb over the fence once you got back because the gate man has already left for the night. That was not oddly specific at all.
I know that what I'm doing is usually dumb and dangerous and that's exactly why I do it. I'm dumb but I'm not an idiot, y'know? I also have problems with authority lmao. And while I love doing all the dumb stuff with my friends I'm extremely protective and always take the blow or make sure no one gets actually hurt. Self-sacrifice is a personality trait 😌💅✨ Also, I still have a crippling social anxiety but after mastering the art of dissociating I can go out in public!
I'm not a very affectionate person - I don't really like physical affection all that much. I'm cool with hugging, hand holding and cuddling but in moderation. I express my love towards those close to me by doing favours and helping them. You'll also know I like you and am comfortable when I stop with all the "uwu i love u ur so amazing" and start throwing (not genuine) insults around or bully you (affectionately). I'm also straight up emotionally constipated.
There's very few things in life that I take seriously and even less things that I care about in general. Because of that I can seem very apathetic and dishonest. That being said, I *do* have hobbies and interests (hyperfixations, actually), I don't have an artistic soul but I do a lot of different art (drawing, dancing, singing, rapping, makeup, fashion, etc.) - but my heart belongs to the world of linguistics.
I'm quiet pessimistic on the inside but I just implement it into the typical Gen-Z humor and ignore all my (often serious) problems. I prefer keeping a happy, funny, loud persona in front of others - I'm the distraction and mood maker!
I'd want my partner(s) to first and foremost - be my best friend(s). Someone who isn't very emotional and can solve problems with logic and in a calm manner. Someone who'll be happy with us just existing and vibing next to each other.
Also someone who'd wrestle with me. Or at least would let me throw them around a little, lol.
My faves are Levi, Belphie, Beel and Monie but I think I match with the first two better, imo.
Thank you in advance! Hope you're having a great day/night!
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Ahhh thank you for your kind words!!! >w
Okay so I think you are in fact a great match to each of your favourites for a different reason!
So in canon I don’t think there much info about their take on mono/poly relationships. Sure, besides Beel all of the other candidates are known to get jealous easily but like being poly is not cheating lol. I’m not sure if someone already made HCs about this but I think it would take so much time to convince Levi that theres not one, but two (or more) people who actually love him oh god. But I think the others mentioned above would be ok. 
So I decided to match you with Mammon! 
 Okay so when it comes to aes I think you and Mammon would make a matching couple! 
Mammon also plays games from time to time, so you could spend some time gaming together. He is surprisingly good at them! Obviously Levi could relate to your otaku past, but that is the past. 
I think your intimidating exterior would probably give off Lucifer vibes to Mammon at first. This is not something to worry about though - Mammon has a tendency of stealing or using people (he’s not crushing on) + he also looks down on humans. (these are sometimes ignored in the fandom but it’s all canon) So sure he is definitely stronger than you, but I think he would be less likely to pick on you like that if you have a pretty but intimidating face. 
He is also one of the more loyal demons, so you have a priority on the same spot! 
I think he would definitely support your chaotic ideas and steal kebab with you at night. You would annoy his brothers a lot and he would get you into trouble very often! So be prepared for some lectures by Lucifer. 
The fact that you self-sacrafice might end up getting you in danger but Mammon is also protective so it’s just the two of you protecting the other while doing someting silly.
Mamon definitely has many favors to ask for, so it’s nice that you don’t think of that as a turn-off! However make sure he doesn’t use you
 His love language is giving gifts so in return you can expect him to get you something! 
I think he likes affection but definitely not in public and he will deny wanting a hug from you with his life
Okay so the fact that you actually call out your friends when they are being unreasonable is something that comes in handy! Mammon gets bullied a lot by his brothers - sometimes there is no reason, but other times he is not innocent at all. So it would be nice if you could shape his personality a bit! 
I definitely see him with a partner who cares about appearance, so you being into makeup and fashion is a good bonus! He wants to set you off on being a model after all
He is definitely outgoing so you being able to sing and dance are great additional points! He will definitely show you off at some bars so be prepared!
I don’t think he is very fond of linguistics as really the only thing that gets him going is cash. He would probably look up how to make the most out of being a linguistic and he will definitely have a conversation with you about his findings
You two could definitely hit it off as best friends first! I mean he will not confess early, being a tsundere and all.
 Okay so Levi would be better at solving difficult situations logically as he is an admiral at the navy. However there is a reason why Mammon is the second strongest that gets overlooked sometimes! If an issue arises he has ideas to solve them! These are not always very great ideas and they might sound silly but most of the time they work! 
Mammon is definitely the best candidate to play-fight out of the potential candidates!! I imagine him being much stronger than you and giving you a hard time but he is not a sadist at all so he will let you win at the end 
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