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All of Batman's kids
For those who still haven't realised how big Bruce's problem is
(Note: some of these are in alternate universes)
Biological
Damian Wayne
Athanasia Al Ghul
Helena Wayne
Ryan Wayne
Bruce Wayne Jr
Terry McGinnis (These guys are weird cause it's technically his DNA but like)
Matt McGinnis
Tallant Wayne
Kull
Echo Wayne-Kyke
Janan Al-Ghul
Saif Al-Ghul
Taj Al-Ghul
May Wayne
Adopted:
Dick Grayson
Lance Burner
Cassandra Cain
Jason Todd
Tim Drake (Technically he refuses to be adopted and is a ward)
Duke Thomas (Technically his uncle has custody of him but people keep telling me he’s adopted so maybe i missed something)
Jarro
Alina Wayne
Turner Hayes
Mentored (aka basically his kids)
Stephanie Brown
Barbara Gordon
Carrie Kelley
Jean-Paul Valley
Claire Clover
Henry Clover
Maps Mizoguchi
Harper Row
Cullen Row
Joker's Son (unnamed)
The Kid count: 33
otherwise known as Bruce's coping method is "become father"
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Clark Kent Jr is riding on the back of Bruce Wayne Jr's motorcycle. In some circles this is called "Riding Bitch", i'm sure there's nothing vaguely homoerotic going on between them.
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hello-catwomanbr · 7 months
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"Bruce and Selina only had Helena" FALSE!!
Spread the truth #1
In fact, Bruce and Selina have had more children in different universes.
Helena Wayne
Huntress (Bronze Age: Earth-2 / New 52 - Earth 2 / Currently Prime Earth) Robin (New 52) / Batwoman (Batman annual 2 - 2017).
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Echo
Detective Comics #1000 (2019)
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Bruce Jr
JLA #8 (1997)
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Richard Grayson Kyle Wayne - Nightwing
Elseworlds - Legends of the Dead Earth. Catwoman (1993) Annual 3
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Aion - Winged Lion
Batman: Prelude to the Wedding: Robin Vs. Ra's Al Ghul #1 (2018)
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Thomas and Bruce Jr.
Gotham Adventures #33 (1998)
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May Wayne
The Batman Who Laughs #1 (2018)
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Bruce Jr., Tivali and Nyesha
Batman '89 #6 (2021)
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Credit: @/thebestofbatcat twitter
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just-trash-talks · 1 year
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Some pranks Duke did and got away with bc someone else got blamed
Ate all of Dick's cereal, Bruce got blamed
Painted Jason helmet blue, Dick got blamed
Broke Tim's coffee machine, Damian got blamed
Turned stephanie's suit red, Jason got blamed
Stole Alfred's cookies before anyone could even see them, Stephanie got blamed
Sent a message from Damian's phone to Jon saying he wanted to break up, Tim got blamed
Stoled Cass favorite drinks, Carrie got blamed
Put glitter in the Batmobile, Jarro got blamed (he got really mad)
Painted Batman suit pink, Harper got blamed
(Accidentaly) Broke Carrie's noun, nobody got blamed they thought it was an accident
Painted Harper's hair green, Helena got blamed
Hided Helena's makeup, Lance got blamed
Too scared to prank Barbara
Finished all Lance's hairspray, Jr. got blamed
Painted Jr.'s face, Damian and Jason were blamed (again)
(He had to fake prank himself or it would have seemed sus)(and Stephanie got blamed)
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crossoverworldtree · 2 years
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Batman Incorporated (Part 1)
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Why, When and What: Bruce Wayne has not been Batman for quite a long time. However, the legacy he created has lived on and has expanded beyond just one man, and even beyond Gotham. In the Gotham areas of New York, most members of this team can be found, but there are agents and safe houses across the globe. They are kept in touch via the Oracle network, which can also call-in other agencies to help with cases. Each operative works alone or with a ‘cell’ of their own, but the Wayne fortune provides greater resources than they would have otherwise.
Most Batman Inc members have loose ties to the police and are 'cordial' with them, but they are also extremely hard on police corruption. The past relationship has been more turbulent, from being wanted by McCarthy in the post-war era, to being deputized officers in the 1960s, to being outlaw vigilantes in the 1980s, to the current state in the 1990s.
Some cops don't like Batman or his ilk most of the time. They feel they show them up, take all the glory, and cross the 'thin blue line' to be considered actual allies. Some officers have attempted to try and counter Batman Inc.
They are usually unprepared for the unholy hell the Batman and their allies can reign down upon their foes.
The 1990s saw a time when there was more than one Batman running around at roughly the same time, and that has not much changed in the last 30 years. Only who has worn the mantle and how much they must rely on technology in the field.
Clout: Criminal 3, Financial 5, Governmental 3, Supernatural 3 (14) Locations: Large (3), Multiple Locations (3), Physical Security (Military Level) (4), Supernatural Security (Protected) (1) (11 - 11 from Clout) Gear: Computers 4, Laboratories/Research Facilities 2, Medical Facilities 3, Workshop/Repair 3, Occult Library 2, Training Facilities (Full Gym) (2), Tricked Out Car (2), Weapons (Getting Medieval, Full Metal Jacket) (6) (15, 29-14 from Clout) Total Cost: 29
Below are the "Core" Bat-family members from 1995 until 2020. There are other Batmen and Women around the world, but much of their information has been obfuscated by official releases.
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Name: Tim Drake a.k.a. Batman IV, Robin IV Date of Birth: 1977 Motivation: Fight Crime, live up to the Legacy (and pose as a socialite during the day) Critter Type: Masked Crime Fighter (Human) Attributes: Str 5, Dex 6, Con 5, Int 5, Per 5, Will 6 Ability Scores: Muscle 16, Combat 20, Brains 20 Life Points: 65 Drama Points: 10 Special Abilities: Hard to Kill 5, Situation Awareness, Nerves of Steel, Contacts (Governmental) 3, Contacts (Financial) 2, Contacts (Criminal) 3, Adversary (LOTS), Attractiveness +3, Honorable (Serious), Emotional Problems (Fear of Commitment), Occult Library (Important), Obligation (Bat-Family), Secret Identity, Armored Costume (AV 8), Obsession (Fight Crime), Natural Toughness, Resistance (Pain) 4, Martial Travels: Soldier, Bag of Tricks Maneuvers Name - Score - Damage - Notes Bat-arang - 19 - 12 - Bash or Slashing Bat-arang Grenade - 19 - 35 - Bash/Fire Punch - 20 - 15 - Bash Kick - 19 - 17 - Bash Arm Blade - 20 - 16 - Slashing Jump Kick - 17 - 23 - Bashing Spin Kick - 20 - 20 - Bashing Sweep Kick - 19 - 10 - Bashing, trips foe Gadget - 20 - Varies - By Device Ki - 20 - Varies - By Ability
The fourth man to take on the mantle of the bat, Tim Drake began his crime fighting career in 1992 as the Fourth Robin, but as time passed, and Bruce Wayne Jr. (the third Batman and second Robin), grew older, slower, not as fast on the recovery, and so on. So, when Bruce was in his late 50s, he passed the mantel shortly after turn of the millennium, and the rebuilding of New York was complete.
Tim Drake's Batman is far more the investigator than any of the previous bearers of the cape and cowl, preferring to solve crimes through investigation than brute force. He's also one of the most human. He still strikes terror into the hearts of criminals, but not as much as one of his allies.
Tim Drake is active as Robin from 1993 to 1995, where he took up the hood of "Red Robin". He took up the mantle of Batman proper in 1997 with Bruce Jr's retirement.
Known Ki Abilities: Acrobatic Multi-Tasking, Breather, Bullet Snatch, Disrupt Ki, Finger Poke of Doom, Flying Leap, Hail Mary Run, Hurricane of Blows, Nerve Pinch, No Need to Draw, One Inch Punch, Wall Walk (has 2 slots open).
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Name: Cassandra Cain a.k.a. Batgirl III, Black Bat III Date of Birth: 1980 Motivation: Fight Crime. Atonement Critter Type: Mask Crime Fighter (Eugenic Human) Attributes: Str 4, Dex 7, Con 5, Int 3, Per 5, Will 5 Ability Scores: Muscle 14, Combat 22, Brains 14 Life Points: 61 Drama Points: 10 Special Abilities: Nanjin Adept, Fast Reaction, Nerves of Steel, Hard to Kill 5, Situational Awareness, Adversary (Lots, including her own Mother--sometimes), Attractiveness +3, Contacts (Financial) 5, Contacts (Criminal) 3, Contacts (Governmental) 3, Minority (Southeast Asian), Emotional Problems (Loner), Honorable (-2), Resources (Inheritor of the Wayne Fortune), Misift, Obligation (SHIELD), Secret Identity, Armored Costume (AV 8), Obsession (Atonement), Natural Toughness, Empathy, Resistance (Pain) 5,  Martial Travels: Warrior, Bag of Tricks
Maneuvers Name - Score - Damage - Notes Bat-arang - 21 - 12 - Bash or Slashing Bat-arang Grenade - 21 - 36 - Bash/Fire Disarm - 20 - None - Disarms Punch - 22 - 14 - Bash Double Jump Kick - 18 - 21 - Bash, hits two targets Kick - 21 - 16 - Bash Arm Blade - 22 - 14 - Slashing Jump Kick - 19 - 20 - Bashing Spin Kick - 20 - 17 - Bashing Sweep Kick - 21 - 10 - Bashing, trips foe Grappling Hook - 20 - NA - Used to move. Wall Flip - 19 - None - +3 to next dodge Ki - 21 - Varies - By Ability
The most feared member of the bat-clan and one of the worlds greatest living martial artists. Cassandra has an origin similar to her 'uncle': Sang Chi, the legendary master of Kung Fu. Unlike Shang Chi, her father was not a Wayne, but a man who similarly achieved near physical perfection but without moral scruples: David Cain. Her mother was indeed the greatest young martial artist at the time: Sandra Wu-San. This was done at the behest of one of the most feared criminal masterminds of the 20th century: Ras Al Ghul, better known as Dr. Fu Manchu. Cassandra, like her uncle, Sang Chi, was the product of the Devil Doctor's attempts to breed a supreme fighter. However, failure struck this attempt as well as the previous one, but much sooner.
Somehow, the silent assassin grew deep empathy through her understanding of the human body's language. So, when she saw death, she was deeply traumatized and ran from her father. Since Sang Chi had apparently killed the Devil Doctor not long after Cassandra was born, she made her way to New York and was eventually noticed by the Wayne family. There, she was treated in a manner completely alien to her: with compassion.
Even with the dissolution of Si-Fan, she has unwillingly become a major player in the various attempts to re-organize it and her own mother's attempts to use her progeny as a means of suicide have proven major challenges in her life.
Publicly, Cassandra Cain is somewhat infamous as the 'Anti-Paris Hilton.' Her public persona is guarded, reclusive and beautiful heiress. She poses for pictures, but doesn't answer many questions, and only appears publicly when it is for what she feels is a good cause.
Often as part of a raid or ruse on the criminals who hide behind their wealth.
Cassandra Cain first appeared as Batgirl in 1998 and retained that role until 2003, when she shifted the role to her close friend Stephanie Brown, and became known various as Batman, The Black Bat, or simply "The Batt."
Known Ki Abilities: Acrobatic Multi-Tasking, As the Water Flows, Breather, Bullet Snatch, Disrupt Ki, Finger Poke of Doom, Flying Leap, Hail Mary Run, Hurricane of Blows, Ki Speed, Massive Blow, Nerve Pinch, No Need to Draw, One Inch Punch, Palm Shove, Wall Walk (1 Open Slot)
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Name: Stephanie Brown a.k.a. Spoiler, Robin V, Batgirl IV Date of Birth: 1981 Motivation: Fight crime, have fun. Critter Type: Masked Crime Fighter (Human) Attributes: Str 3, Dex 5, Con 4, Int 3, Per 4, Will 4 Ability Scores: Muscle 12, Combat 16, Brains 15 Life Points: 53 Drama Points: 5 Special Abilities: Hard to Kill 5, Secret (Identity), Nerves of Steel, Attractiveness +2, Obligation (Bat-Family), Emotional Problems (Fear of Rejection), Armored Costume (AV 8), Secret Identity, Adversary (Criminals and Costumed Madmen), Resistance (Pain) 2, Bag of Tricks, Martial Travels: Beginner
Maneuvers Name - Score - Damage - Notes Bat-arang - 15 - 8 - Bash, Slashing Punch - 16 - 10 - Bash Kick - 15 - 12 - Bash Arm Blade - 16 - 10 - Slashing Sweep Kick - 15 - 7 - Bashing, trips foe Grappling Hook - 15 - NA - Used to move. Ki - 12 - Varies - By Ability
Stephanie Brown is one of the few persons to force her way into the Bat Family proper through sheer determination and pluck (the first being the original Oracle, Barbra Gordon). Shes also suffered quite a bit for it. Originally, she donned a costume to "Spoil" her fathers own plans, and inadvertently helped the Bat-Family out in the process. She got a tremendous thrill out of it and tried to super-hero solo for a while.
The Bat family, who kept close tabs on the vigilante community, were at first skeptical of her involvement, but eventually warmed up to her (Cassandra especially, Steph being one of the few people who could make her laugh).
Like most of the Bat-clan, she's been through a lot, the terror of "No Man's Land" left great scars on them all. Running cleanup on 6ft sea lice, massive destruction, background radiation and highly mutative chemicals (King Ghidorah's blood) can leave heavy emotional scarring. However, she still keeps a rather bright front. If it's only a facade, it is hard to tell. When Cassandra moved beyond Batgirl, she took up the Batgirl slack.
Stephanie Brown first began to operate as Spoiler in 1995.  She eventually gained the mantle of Robin in 2002 for about a year then took up the mantle of Batgirl a year later with Cassandra's blessing.
Known Ki Abilities: Acrobatic Multi-Tasking, Breather, Flying Leap, Hail Mary Run, Massive Blow, No Need to Draw, Wall Walk (1 slot open)
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Name: Bruce Wayne Jr. a.k.a. Batman III Date of Birth: 1950 Motivation: Keep the kids out of Trouble Critter Type: Human Attributes: Str 5, Dex 4, Con 6, Int 6, Per 4, Will 6 Ability Scores: Muscle 16, Combat 19, Brains 20 Life Points: 69 Drama Points: 10 Special Abilities: Hard to Kill 5, Situation Awareness, Nerves of Steel, Contacts (Governmental) 4, Contacts (Financial) 4, Contacts (Criminal) 2, Adversary (LOTS), Attractiveness +2, Honorable (Serious), Emotional Problems (Fear of Commitment), Occult Library (Important), Obligation (Bat-Family), Natural Toughness, Physical Disability (Foot), Resistance (Pain) 5, Martial Travels: Soldier, Bag of Tricks
Name - Score - Damage - Notes Punch - 19 - 14 - Bash Batarang - 19 - 8 - Bash Cane - 19 - 19 - Bash Ki - 18 - Varies - By Ability
Bruce Wayne Jr. Held the mantle of Batman from around 1974 to 1997, and acted as Robin from 1967 to 1974.  He is the Batman who lost Jason Todd to the Joker in the early 80s, as well as the "Robin" who served on the Teen Titans and fell for the Vigori named "Kori'ander". He suffered greatly in the mid to late 80s, becoming darker and more extreme in his methods, even towards anarchist tendencies. Conner Kent tried to step in, but--since the 'death' of his Godfather, Clark Kent (Superman), the gesture made him angrier. Helena Wayne finally managed to talk him down in the 90s...in time for his more extreme influence to saturate the rest of the wannabe heroes around and he understood the full ramifications of what he had done.
He slowly began to wind down after that until he retired.
His mind remains sharp, but his body simply couldn't recover as quickly anymore, and it hasn't recovered (and never will) from the foot injury sustained from the damage wrought on him over time, and especially Mr. Hyde, who nearly broke his spine. He remains behind but acts as an organizer for the others. Monitoring police radios and various cameras placed around New York. Because of all this and other tragedies in his life including the death of his wife, he has grown bitter about things and often has a biting remark on hand.
Known Ki Abilities: Acrobatic Multi-Tasking, Breather, Disrupt Ki, Finger Poke of Doom, Flying Leap, Hail Mary Run, Hurricane of Blows, Massive Blow, Nerve Pinch, No Need to Draw, One Inch Punch, Wall Walk (3 Open Slots)
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Name:  Carrie Kelly a.k.a. Robin VI, Nightwing III Date of Birth: 1970 Motivation: Live up to expectations Critter Type: Human Attributes: Str 4, Dex 6, Con 4, Int 3, Per 3, Will 4 Ability Scores: Muscle 14, Combat 18, Brains 12 Life Points: 54 Drama Points: 10 Special Abilities: Hard to Kill 4, Secret (Identity), Nerves of Steel, Attractiveness +1, Obligation (Bat-Family), Mild Recklessness, Mild Showoff, Armored Costume (AV 8), Secret Identity, Adversary (Criminals and Costumed Madmen), Resistance (Pain) 2, Bag of Tricks, Martial Travels: Beginner, Impaired Senses (Sight, Glasses), Honorable (Minimal)
Name - Score - Damage – Notes Slingshot – 18 – 13 – Bash Jab – 20 – 11 – Bash Punch – 18 – 13 – Bash Haymaker – 15 – 16 – Bash Sweep Kick – 17 – 9 – Bash Kick – 17 – 15 – Bash Spin Kick – 16 – 16 – Bash Bat-Arang – 17 – 13 – Bash, thrown, can have various effects.
Carrie Kelly was Bruce Junior's first robin but graduated to Nightwing not much later.  She began more as an anchor to Bruce Jr, but also as an enabler for his darker tendencies.  When he was finally talked down, she switched to Nightwing.  She's a bit more hardline than many of the other bat family members, but she retains an enthusiasm that helped her bond with them rather well.  Still, with Bruce retired, she preferred to fly solo.  Rumors of a romantic relationship between herself and Bruce Jr. really creep her out.
Carrie was Robin until 1990, taking up the Nightwing mantle until about 2010. She joined the Oracle Network afterwards.
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Name: Helena Wayne-Bertinelli a.k.a. Batgirl III, Huntress I Motivation: Symbolic Revenge, fight crime Date of Birth: 1957-1995 Critter Type: Costumed Vigilante Attributes: Str 4, Dex 5, Con 5, Int 4, Per 5, Will 4 Ability Scores: Muscle 14, Combat 18, Brains 16, Life Points: 61 Drama Points: 10 Special Abilities: Hard to Kill 5, Situation Awareness, Nerves of Steel, Contacts (Governmental) 2, Contacts (Financial) 3, Contacts (Criminal) 3, Adversary (Lots), Attractiveness +3, Honorable (Serious), Severe Cruelty, Obligation (Bat-Family), Secret Identity, Super Suit (AV 8/4), Obsession (Fight Crime, avenge mother's death), Natural Toughness, Resistance (Pain) 3, Minority (Half-Wakandan (Exiled)), Mild Recklessness, Bag of Tricks
Name - Score - Damage - Notes Crossbow - 18 - 21 - Slash/Stab Punch - 18 - 13 - Bash Kick - 178 - 15 - Bash Sweep Kick - 17 - 9 - Bash, Trips Spin Kick - 15 - 16 - Bash Ki - 12 - Varies - By Ability
Helena Wayne was the daughter of Bruce Wayne and Selina Kyle (true name Khefretari of Wakanda). She was a headstrong girl from the very beginning, first attempting to join her parents in adventuring when she was 9. Her parents quickly stopped her, telling her she needed more training--the press dubbed her Bat-Mite when they saw her. She managed to complete the rest of her training in 1970, becoming the newest Batgirl. Helena was forever scarred however in 1977 when her mother was blackmailed into performing one last job and slain in the process. Something died within Helena that day, much like the death of her grandparents had scarred her father. At the time, she was attending college and only rarely paroling a Batgirl. She blamed herself for not being there and became extremely active as a costumed adventurer-but taking on the moniker of The Huntress instead. She carried a crossbow and was not afraid to use it as effectively against criminals as pulp-vigilantes like the Spider had against their foes. This put a strain in her relationship with the rest of her family. Over the years she eventually calmed down, settled down with a former member of a Mafia family who turned in evidence and lived in hiding. She figured between the government and private protection her family brought to them, that as enough to calm her paranoia and settle down.
She and her husband were still slain by mafia hitmen, her daughter Helena Bettinelli II, witnessing the whole thing while hiding in the closet ...
Known Ki Abilities: Acrobatic Multi-Tasking, Breather, Bullet Disarm, Bullet Snatch, Disrupt Ki, Finger Poke of Doom, Flying Leap, Hail Mary Run, Hurricane of Blows, Nerve Pinch, No Need to Draw, One Inch Punch, Wall Walk
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Name: Helena Bertinelli Jr. a.k.a. Huntress II Motivation: Fight Crime, get revenge Date of Birth: 1980 Critter Type: Costumed Vigilante Attributes: Str 4, Dex 5, Con 5, Int 3, Per 4, Will 6 Ability Scores: Muscle 14, Combat 20, Brains 14, Life Points: 61 Drama Points: 10 Special Abilities: Hard to Kill 5, Situation Awareness, Nerves of Steel, Contacts (Governmental) 2, Contacts (Financial) 2, Contacts (Criminal) 4, Adversary (Lots), Attractiveness +3, Honorable (Serious), Severe Cruelty, Obligation (Bat-Family), Secret Identity, Super Suit (AV 8/4), Obsession (Fight Crime, avenge parent's death), Natural Toughness, Resistance (Pain) 2, Minority (1/4-Wakandan (Exiled)), Mild Recklessness, Bag of Tricks, Wild Card (Teaching) +2
Name - Score - Damage - Notes Crossbow - 20 - 21 - Slash/Stab Punch - 20 - 13 - Bash Kick - 19 - 15 - Bash Sweep Kick - 19 - 9 - Bash, Trips Spin Kick - 17 - 17 - Bash Ki - 12 - Varies - By Ability
Known Ki Abilities: Acrobatic Multi-Tasking, Breather, Bullet Disarm, Bullet Snatch, Disrupt Ki, Finger Poke of Doom, Flying Leap, Hail Mary Run, Hurricane of Blows, Nerve Pinch, No Need to Draw, One Inch Punch, Wall Walk
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Name: Jean-Paul Valley a.k.a. Batman IV, Azrael Date of Birth: 1972 Motivation: Punish Sinners, Atone for Sin Critter Type: Masked Crime Fighter (Eugenic Human) Attributes: Str 6, Dex 5, Con 5, Int 3, Per 5, Will 5 Ability Scores: Muscle 16, Combat 20, Brains 16 Life Points: 65 Drama Points: 10 Special Abilities: Hard to Kill 5, Situation Awareness, Nerves of Steel, Contacts (Governmental) 2, Contacts (Financial) 1, Contacts (Criminal) 2, Contacts (Supernatural) 4, Adversary (LOTS), Attractiveness +3, Honorable (Rigid), Emotional Problems (Fear of Rejection), Occult Library (Important), Obligation (Bat-Family), Secret Identity, Armored Costume (AV 8), Obsession (Fight Crime), Natural Toughness, Resistance (Pain) 4, Martial Travels: Soldier, Bag of Tricks, Magical Philosophy (Theosophy), Mental Problems (MPD)
Maneuvers Name - Score - Damage - Notes Bat-arang - 19 - 12 - Bash or Slashing Bat-arang Grenade - 19 - 35 - Bash/Fire Jab - 22 - 12 - Bash Punch - 20 - 15 - Bash Kick - 19 - 17 - Bash Arm Blade - 20 - 16 - Slashing + 1 per SL Fire, Blessed Jump Kick - 17 - 23 - Bashing Spin Kick - 20 - 20 - Bashing Sweep Kick - 19 - 10 - Bashing, trips foe Gadget - 20 - Varies - By Device Ki - 20 - Varies - By Ability Prayer - 16 - Varies - By Spell Jean-Paul Valley was once a member of Iscariot, the Vatican's elite hit squad to hunt monsters and 'heretics'. To that end, he was trained in religious piety, monster hunting, and enhanced with some chemical treatments and harsh conditioning to make him a weapon of the church. Encounters with the Batfamily caused him to change his ideals towards Justice, though he could be extremely vicious when dealing with "Sinners." When Batman (III) was injured by Bane, he helped fill in for the man more than others at the time -- and it caused him to have a psychotic episode. He spent over a decade in recovery but has since returned to help the people of Gotham primarily from supernatural evils.
Criminals are a superstitious, cowardly lot, meaning some will turn to dark arts when push comes to shove. When they do, the avenging angel Azrael is there to serve justice.
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Name: Kate Kane a.k.a. Batwoman III Motivation: The Mission Date of Birth: 1980 Critter Type: Costumed Vigilante Attributes: Str 4, Dex 6, Con 6, Int 3, Per 4, Will 5 Ability Scores: Muscle 14, Combat 18, Brains 14, Life Points: 61 Drama Points: 10 Special Abilities: Hard to Kill 5, Situation Awareness, Nerves of Steel, Contacts (Governmental) 4, Contacts (Financial) 2, Contacts (Criminal) 2, Contacts (Supernatural) 3, Adversary (Lots), Attractiveness +4, Honorable (Serious), Mild Cruelty, Obligation (Bat-Family), Secret Identity, Super Suit (AV 8/4), Obsession (Fight ), Natural Toughness, Resistance (Pain) 2, Minority (Lesbian), Mild Recklessness, Bag of Tricks, Wild Card (Military Protocol) +2, Martial Travels (Soldier) Maneuvers Name - Score - Damage - Notes Jab - 20 - 9 - Bash Punch - 18 - 13 - Bash Haymaker - 15 - 16 - Bash Sweep Kick - 17 - 9 - Bash, Knockover Kick - 17 - 15 - Bash Spin Kick - 16 - 16 - Bash Taser Knuckle - 18 - 15 - Bash, +5 Electrical, Knockout Effect Bat-arang - 18 - 12 - Bash or Slashing Bat-arang Grenade - 18 - 35 - Bash/Fire Kate Kane's grandmother, Kathy, was once Batwoman for a hot second. Kate was utterly ignorant of this until she joined herself. Kate's twin sister Alice died when they were young, lost with their mother in a hostage situation. Her father, who was a career military man, took 'command' in her life, and she did her best to follow in his footsteps. And she was good, really good.
But she was also a lesbian when Don't Ask Don't Tell was in full force. So, when she was outed, she quit the military. She lost her moorings until an encounter with Batgirl (Cassandra Cain) made her realize the opportunities to 'serve' were still out there. She became Batwoman and eventually joined the rest of her extended family in "the business", though she herself often joins Azrael in hunting down monsters and supernatural threats to Gotham.
She has a particular enmity against Vampires.
Known Ki Abilities: Acrobatic Multi-Tasking, Breather, Bullet Snatch, Disrupt Ki, Finger Poke of Doom, Flying Leap, Hail Mary Run, Hurricane of Blows, Nerve Pinch, No Need to Draw, Wall Walk,
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Name: Duke Thomas a.k.a Luke Fox, Jace Fox, Robin VI, The Signal, Batwing, Batman V Motivation: Help People Date of Birth: 1995 Critter Type: Costumed Vigilante Attributes: Str 3, Dex 5, Con 5, Int 3, Per 4, Will 5 Ability Scores: Muscle 12, Combat 20, Brains 14, Life Points: 57 Drama Points: 10 Special Abilities: Nanjin Adept, Hard to Kill 5, Situation Awareness, Nerves of Steel, Contacts (Governmental) 2, Contacts (Financial) 3, Contacts (Criminal) 2, Contacts (Supernatural) 1, Adversary (Lots), Attractiveness +3, Honorable (Serious), Mild Cruelty, Obligation (Bat-Family), Secret Identity, Super Suit (AV 8/4), Natural Toughness, Resistance (Pain) 3, Minority (Black), Bag of Tricks Maneuvers Name - Score - Damage - Notes Jab - 22 - 10 - Bash Punch - 20 - 11 - Bash Haymaker - 17 -14 - Bash Sweep Kick - 19 - 8 - Bash, knock over Kick - 19 - 13 - Bash Spin Kick - 18 - 15 - Bash Bat-arang - 18 - 11 - Bash or Slashing Bat-arang Grenade - 18 - 35 - Bash/Fire Formerly a member of a gang/community outreach organization known as the Robins. The Bat Family didn't create them, but the gang formed anyway, and Duke Thomas stood out among them as a leader and how he held himself. His parents had been driven mad by Joker Venom and never fully recovered, driving his time in the Robins. Cassandra noticed he had a talent for martial arts and has become his teacher in the martial arts and often partners in the field when Stephanie Brown or Tim Drake are otherwise occupied. Tim has become his legal guardian and does his best to support him.
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TJ Wayne is very important actually
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V The Mysterious Wayne Family
Dick Grayson V Gotham - Chapter 2
“Why can’t I sit in the front seat?” Danny demanded to know, crossing his arms from the back of Dick’s car. 
Dick sighed, peering back at him with the rearview mirror. He’d been shaky as they escaped the apartment without getting attacked by the media. Did the idiot get sick? Was the media in this dimension such a big threat? 
Truthfully, Danny didn’t know a lot about this dimension, despite having lived in it for around a year. That year was spent almost entirely homeless, spending only the last few weeks with Dick. Otherwise, he was sleeping where he could, spending his days in libraries and conning people out of cash as a child medium. 
…Well, calling it “conning” was a bit of an overstatement. He did get people in contact with dead relatives and the like. He just… didn’t always quote them exactly, especially when it meant he could get enough money to eat for the day. 
“It’s unsafe, Danny, you know that.”
Danny glared at him from his booster seat, which put him perfectly at eye level so he could lock eyes with Dick with the rear-view mirror. He hated this whole situation: the booster seat, his age, needing to rely on an adult, the stupid media, the stupid police, the stupid Dick… Okay, he kinda liked the booster seat. It was based off of some hero—Superbman—who was an alien? But looked like a human?
That may be one of the biggest differences between this dimension and his hom–the dimension he was born in. Danny had been one of the only heroes back there, along with Valerie and Dani, if you could even call them heroes. In this dimension? There were hundreds. There were space aliens to normal people in costumes to other humans with powers, and while not all of them were heroes, a lot of them were. 
And Danny hated how easy they had it. 
Every day back in Amity Park was a fight for acceptance, a battle to convince people that yes, he was a ghost with good intentions, only for that trust to be lost the moment he wasn’t fast enough to stop a ghost from hurting someone, or got thrown through a wall trying to protect people. It was constantly one step forward and one step back, and nothing Sam or Tucker or Jazz said ever truly made him okay with it.
Despite everything, he hoped Amity Park was doing alright without him. He couldn’t go back—wouldn’t go back, even if he had an open portal and his powers, not after what happened—but hopefully they were doing okay. 
He hoped his rogues had listened and stayed away from the Fenton portal. For their own safety.
Like every time he thought of his pa–the Fentons, the scars across his chest flared up. They might have been long-healed, but the pain always lingered, a sharp lance that lingered in the thin skin of his wound. Fiddling around in his pocket, Danny found his juul and puffed. Exhaling, a bubble gum smoke filled the cabin as the CBD started to work its way into his blood. 
Dick coughed. “You know you won’t be able to do that in the manor, right?”
Danny grumbled, rolling down the window a crack. 
“I’m serious, Danny. I know you need it, but the rules are different at the manor. You’ll need to go outside to smoke.”
“Yeah, yeah, I’ll smoke outside. Wouldn’t want your gramps to get bent out of shape.”
He laughed. “I think Alfred would be alright, once we explain your medical issues. It’s Bruce we’ll have to worry about. He’s got this thing about drugs… once he learns what’s in your juul, he do whatever it takes to get you off it. He won’t even listen if we tell him about your chronic pain, he’ll just think you’re lying!” Dick threw his hand up in the air. “Honestly, it’s just lecture after lecture with him.”
“He can suck a cock then!”
Dick laughed, all traces of anger gone as his bright eyes glanced at him through the mirror. “Say that to his face, and you get ice cream for a week.”
“Done!”
The illusive Bruce Wayne. Danny had heard the name from the TV that morning, and apparently he was Dick’s dad. Not that Dick ever mentioned him in the months they knew each other. Not that this Bruce guy ever visited on the occasions Dick managed to convince him to stay the night, nor in the weeks after his foster placement was finalized. Danny didn’t even know Dick had a dad until this morning, so clearly something was going on here. 
If he focused on this case—the mystery behind the estrangement of Dick and Bruce—then he’d finally be able to get his mind off Mrs. Bennett’s case. The Shade had approached him early that morning, flickering in the moonlight, barely visible and just formed. Her case was so easy too; her killer was her son-in-law, she’d been awake when he killed her and he’d definitely left behind evidence too, but there was no telling if the other detectives at Bludhaven PD would find it. Or would care enough to find it. 
Corrupt bastards. 
Speaking of which—”Are we actually going to be able to consult on cases while we’re in Gotham, or was that just something you said to make me feel better?”
“I believe I said case, as in the singular one with Mrs. Bennett. But yes, I’ve already arranged it with the Commissioner.” 
“But she works for the Damir family! We can’t trust her.”
“We can’t trust her when it comes to cases related to the Damir family,” Dick corrected. “Other than that, she’s decent at her job.”
“That’s not a compliment.”
“She’s better than the other officers in our department?” he tried again.
“Also not a compliment. I’ve met dead guys that are better cops.”
They bantered back and forth, but the closer they got to Gotham, the tenser Dick became. Dick wasn’t the type to get serious out of nowhere—the only times Danny could remember were when a case involved a gang or that one terrible time when some ugly-ass assassin with a stupid-ass name came to town—but whatever was waiting for them… must be bad. Right? 
Gotham, Danny noticed as they drove through town, looked better than Bludhaven, like how rats look better than turds. Danny had heard the rumors about Gotham, mostly about all the dangerous villains, but there was clearly some money going into infrastructure. Beautiful gothic buildings dripping with gargoyles towered overhead, and there weren’t nearly as many boarded up shops and potholes. 
It wouldn’t have been a bad place to set up shop if it weren’t for all the Shades around.
The ghost population of this dimension mostly comprised of Shades with the occasional Poltergeists and Wraiths. Ectoplasm wasn’t as accessible here; just traveling to this dimension had stripped Danny of almost all the ectoplasm in his body and he still hadn’t recovered, so his powers barely worked. But Shades were shadows of humans when they were alive, weak and incorporeal unless you were a ghost too, barely kept together with their obsession.
Bludhaven had a lot of Shades. That’s why Danny settled down there when he first arrived. He wanted to help people move on if he could, either by solving their murder or contacting their loved ones. 
If Bludhaven had a lot of Shades, Gotham had a colossal number. 
Shades clogged the walkways and the streets, dissipating when someone or something went through them and reforming in an instant. Some alleys were plugged with them and some alleys were empty. Danny watched with wide eyes. Ghosts were supposed to be rare. He’d thought ghosts were rare. But Gotham was plagued with violent crime… violent, unique, indescribable crime, worse in intensity from Bludhaven, but not quite there in frequency. There were women with their faces melted off, men ripped in half down the center, children blown to bits, creeping around the streets of Gotham. 
Danny sunk down in his booster seat. “I want to go home,” he admitted quietly. 
Dick sighed. “I know, kiddo. I want to go home too.”
He blinked away stubborn tears. Dick didn’t understand. This wasn’t Danny’s home, this dimension wasn’t Danny’s home, Dick wasn’t Danny’s home (as much as Danny appreciated Dick, he wanted his family, but they hated him, they attacked him, they—)
Dick continued talking. “But you know what? Everything’s going to be okay. Because my grandfather is going to love you. And Bruce— He’s a little rough around the edges and we might not get along right now, but he’s going to love you too.” Dick sounded like he was trying to convince himself more than Danny. “Tim’s going to adore you; he’s told me that he’s always wanted a younger sibling and I can’t blame him; his house looks so lonely and his parents were always gone. He’s staying with Bruce now as a foster since his dad’s in a coma, but he’s been family long before that…”
He listened to Dick continue to ramble about his family. Bruce was rarely touched upon in his stories, but Alfred was spoken of with unmistakable love (Danny never knew his grandparents, Mom and Dad were disowned years before he was born, he could probably guess why), and he clearly adored Tim (He could understand that, Danny loved Jazz with his entire soul, but what would it have been like if he had a younger sibling? Would his relationship with Dani have turned into this if they could’ve spent time together?). Dick continued with stories about his best friend and ex-girlfriend, Barabra (Sam and Tuck, Tuck and Sam, his friends were dead and it's his fault—), and even a few including Tim’s ex-girlfriend too.
He closed his eyes and tried not to think. 
Before long, the car slowed to a stop. Ahead of them was a grand manor, the kind shown in those regency tv shows that Jazz loved watching, with obsessively maintained gardens and beautiful, clean exterior. A stone staircase led up to larger-than-life wooden doors; Danny couldn’t identify what kind of wood, but it was probably something expensive and old. Mahogany? That sounded like an expensive wood. 
Dick put the car in park before turning around in his seat to look at Danny. “Alright, buddy. Are you ready to meet our family?”
“Your family,” Danny corrected mulishly, unbuckling his seat belt. 
“Our family,” Dick said again, smiling. “They’re good people, and they’re going to be here for you.”
“Sure.” Sliding out of his seat and out of the car, Danny stayed slightly behind Dick as they walked up the steps and to the front door. Before Dick could knock or find the doorbell, the doors opened to reveal an old stereotypical butler. He even had a British accent! “Master Grayson,” he addressed Dick coolly, but when he looked at Danny, his expression softened. “And Young Master Daniel. It is good to finally meet you, and welcome to Wayne Manor. I am the family butler, Alfred Pennyworth.”
Danny ducked away. “Danny’s fine,” came his muttered response. 
Alfred smiled. “Young Master Danny, then. Come along; Master Bruce is waiting for you both in the foyer.” 
Dick grimaced. Did that mean something bad? What was a foyer, a fancy word for office? Was Dick going to get scolded?
They followed Alfred into the house (although, calling it a house felt like an understatement). It was even fancier inside, with marble floors and a glistening chandelier overhead. Danny felt significantly out of place in his jeans and ratty coat he’d pulled out of the trash.
There was a man pacing in the room (was this the foyer?). He was dressed in a fancy suit and built like a brick house, but looked similar enough to Dick in a weird funhouse-mirror way. The moment he saw them, his face smoothed into a banal smile and Danny immediately didn’t like him. “Dick! You’re home.” Striding up to them, the man immediately hugged Dick, who stiffly returned it. “Welcome back, chum. And who’s this?”
Dick’s smile was strained. “This is my foster son, Danny. Danny, this is Bruce; I was his ward until I turned 18.” Ouch. Not even a foster son, but a ward? That sounded like a significant step down from fostering. Danny glared at Bruce, who seemed taken aback by his hostility. Dick laughed nervously. “Sorry about him, he’s shy.” Now Danny glared at Dick. 
Bruce’s smiled evened out as he crouched down, like that would hide his fucking massive body. “It’s nice to meet you, Danny,” he said. “I’m very happy you're here. Hopefully it’ll be a lot more peaceful now that you’re staying with us.”
Danny scowled. “Suck a cock, douchebag.”
Bruce’s smile dropped as Dick smothered a laugh. “Watch your mouth,” Dick scolded without any heat behind it. Danny smirked. 
“It’s okay, Dick,” Bruce said, straightening up. “I’m sure Danny’s just shaken up from the sudden change. I’m feel the same, since you didn’t tell any of your friends or family that you were taking in a child.”
“Oh, so you can adopt a child without telling anyone, but when I do it—”
Alfred stepped in. “If you both could contain yourselves a minute longer, I can get the Young Masters settled in. I’ve already arranged a room for you in the family ward, Young Master Danny, if you’d like to rest? It is still rather early in the morning.”
“It might be better to give him a tour of the manor before anything else,” Dick said, eyeing Danny warrily. 
“I’m not going to get lost.”
“Mhmm.” Dick didn’t believe him. 
“I’m not!”
“Just like how you didn’t get lost at the precinct? Or at the morgue? Or at—”
“I never got lost on the streets!” Danny thought that was rather impressive. Besides, it’s not his fault the morgue was just empty hallways that all looked the same!
“The streets are labeled. Besides, you’ll never know where the in-house theater is without a tour.” Dick winked, like that was a big selling point. 
Bruce interrupted them. “Why don't you give him a tour after we talk, Dick? It’s been a long time since we last spoke and I was hoping to ask you about your… recent life change.”
Dick pinched the bridge of nose. “Of course you want to start the interrogation right away,” he muttered, eyebrows furrowed. “Alright, but I don’t want Danny to hear this. Alfie, could you– Tim!” Following Dick’s glance, Danny found a teenager in his fancy pajamas standing on the stairs leading to the second floor. The teen, who looked enough like Dick to be his brother and Bruce’s son, rubbed his eyes like he couldn’t believe what he was seeing. “Tim can take you on the tour! Come on, Danny.” 
Dick ushered Danny up the stairs to Tim. “Will you be okay without me?” Danny asked, not wanting to leave Dick alone with Bruce.
He got a bright smile in return. Danny didn’t trust it. “Of course I will, kiddo. Don’t worry about me, just focus on having fun with Timmy.”
Tim looked blearily between them. “What is going on?”
“You’re taking Danny on a tour so he doesn’t hear me and Bruce fight,” Dick told him plainly. “Danny, this is my brother and Bruce’s foster son, Tim. Tim, this is my foster son, Danny. You two have fun!”
Ignoring Tim’s protests that he hadn’t had breakfast yet, Dick pushed them up the stairs and into the immediate hallway, closing the door behind him. They stared at each other for a moment before Danny pressed his ear against the crack in the door. “When did Dick get a kid?” Tim asked.
“Like, three weeks ago, keep up.” Tim tried to say something again, but Danny shushed him. After a moment, Tim joined him in eavesdropping by the door. 
Dick spoke. “I’ll start. I’m sorry that I didn’t tell you both I was fostering a kid. I was planning to inform you after the two month mark and Danny had settled in a bit more, but obviously that plan is out the window.”
“I accept your apology, Master Dick,” Alfred said, and there was a sigh of relief. “However, I would still like to know how this happened in the first place.”
“I’m more interested in knowing how you managed to foster him without us being interviewed as character references.”
“...I may have used my boss’ influence to make sure that only my co-workers were interviewed?” Dick admitted.
“Master Richard.”
“I’m sorry, Alfie, but he’s a flight risk! Do you know how many times I managed to get him to come home with me only for him to disappear in the middle of the night!? Fourteen times! Danny’s admitted that he ran away from his previous home, he still hasn’t told me his real last name, and he’s paranoid enough to give Bruce a run for his money! I’ve just barely managed to gain his trust. I didn’t need Bruce being Bruce to ruin it for us—”
“If you had asked me to stay away, I would have—”
“No you wouldn’t, Bruce! You’d pick and prod and try to uncover his every little secret because you don’t trust me to figure it out myself! If Danny had suspected that someone was looking into his past, he would have bolted, B. And I would have lost him forever.”
Danny nodded. He would have. Not that Bruce would have found anything about his past–the perks of getting stuck in an alternate dimension–but some rich asshole poking his nose in his business? Danny would have snuck onto the next bus out of the city.
“You can barely take care of yourself, Dick!” Bruce insisted. “If it was such a dire situation, then you could have contacted me and I would have–”
“–Lost him immediately because he has a strange hatred for billionaires?” Dick scoffed. “He wouldn’t let you get within six feet of him if you tried to take custody.”
“I–”
“He bites too.”
“Dick–”
“Hard.”
“Richard–”
“And it’s pretty bold of you to say I can’t take care of myself. Have you looked in the mirror recently? Because the word hypocrite is written across your forehead in crayon.”
“But I’m not the one who struggles to make rent each month.” Danny flinched. He’d known that Dick didn’t get paid that much, but was it really that bad? Didn’t Dick get a pay increase when he was made detective? Or was Danny taking so much money that it negated the pay increase— “Nevertheless, I’m not trying to take custody away from you, Dick. I’m just… trying to figure out how we got to this point.”
“We got to this point by not trusting each other,” Dick said tiredly. “And I still don’t trust you, not after what you did.”
Dick, I–”
“No, Bruce. This is my life. Besides you were only a few years older than me when my parents died and you decided to raise me on your own. It’s hypocritical for you to complain that I’m doing the same. Look, I’ve known Danny for over a year–”
“You mean you’ve hid this from me for over a year?”
“Bruce–”
“I knew I should have been suspicious when you got that foster license. You’ve been planning this for months–”
“Bruce!” Dick snapped, and Danny had never heard Dick that mad before, not even the first time they met. “Obviously I’ve been planning this for months! I’ve been planning this since the first week I met Danny! The only reason I got that damn license was for him!” He felt… warm. Danny knew that foster licenses were hard to get, but Dick had really wanted him since the week they met. Danny had been so… feral back then, he couldn’t imagine anyone wanting him, not even Jazz. Dick continued, voice barely audible through the door. “He’s a good kid. You don’t have anything to worry about.”
A sigh. “I just… don’t want you to do anything you’ll regret, that’s all.”
“Are you saying you regret adopting me?” The angry voice was back. “Adopting Jason?”
“That’s not what I meant—!”
Tim pulled him away from the door. “We shouldn’t be listening to this. Come on, let’s start that tour you need.”
Danny tried to pull away, but Tim was deceptively strong for his thin frame. Despite his struggles, he was halfway down the hall before he knew it. “Let me go, cocksleeve!”
“You don’t need to hear that,” Tim said. “Trust me, things always get… heated between them, when Jason is brought up. That’s not something you need to witness.”
Jason, huh? That must be the linchpin in this entire investigation. Dick had never mentioned a Jason before, but he was clearly important if the entire family got bent out of shape for him. Did Dick cut contact with Bruce because of this Jason? Did Jason force Dick to do it? Dick would never abandon his family like that, Danny knew this had to be true because of his determination in trying to take Danny home, but if he was forced to stay away… Maybe Jason is an associate of Bruce that Dick hates?
Danny finally managed to jerk his arm away. His entire hand ached. “You don’t have to drag me!”
Shock crossed Tim’s face, like he’d finally realized what he was doing, before it fell. “I’m sorry, Danny. I shouldn’t have pulled you. It’s just… Jason isn’t something you should hear about, at your age. I would appreciate it if you didn’t bring him up, especially around Bruce. Okay?”
Studying the boy, Danny agreed. Sounds like Jason’s some sort of criminal contact, so it was best to behave carefully. Danny kicked at the ground, scraping dirt off onto the carpet that ran in the center of the hall. “So, what do you guys do for fun around here?” He asked. “I don’t need a tour, I’m not a baby.”
Tim rubbed the back of his neck. “Well, I just spent the night in the library, working on a case? If you want to lend a hand with that?”
Danny narrowed his eyes. “I thought you just woke up?”
“...Just because I was in the library doesn’t mean I was awake the entire time.”
Ah, a fellow insomniac. His eyes narrowed further. “I only like interesting cases. What kind are we talking about? Fraud? Robbery? Some dinky school kid project?”
“Multiple homicides. If that’s interesting enough for you?”
“...Carry on.”
A/N: Anyway, I’m using @/jedipirateking’s age chart for the ages of Batman characters. Since we’re right before Under the Red Hood, that makes Dick 24. Danny is roughly a year younger than Damian, but was originally 17 before he was deaged. 
Dick: Yes, this is my feral street child. Danny: *foaming at the mouth, swearing*
Tim, internally: Oh! Dick must have already informed Danny about our identities! They work on cases together too, maybe we can work on one to bond? Danny, internally: Wow, rich people have weird ass hobbies
Danny: *so close, yet so far from figuring out the Jason thing* Red Hood: Did someone just walk over my fucking grave again?
Yes, some things are being kept vague on purpose. That’s for a better reveal in the future.
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fakeicecubes · 21 days
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I feel like we don't talk about Joker Jr enough. It's such a good plot point but I never see anyone talk about it. Especially because of the things that could happen after the fact. Like Tim and Jason bonding over their shared trauma caused by the Joker, or Batman finally killing the clown. I mean...even if Bruce doesn't kill the Joker I'm sure that Tim and Jason would just do it for him. Or y'know, Tim's rather powerful friends who would all die for each other. Even the other members of the batfamily. Dick already lost a brother once to the Joker and you're telling me he's just gonna let it go when his other brother is kidnapped and tortured for three weeks? No! Also what if while Tim's gone that's when Damian pops up? And like, he tries to take the Robin persona and says he deserves it because the old Robin is dead but Bruce won't let him(He finally learned his lesson about replacing Robin without the previous Robins knowledge). Not until Tim is found and rescued is when Damian finally becomes Robin and that's only because he steals the costume. Let's start writing more Joker Jr stuff
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morgangalaxy43 · 1 month
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Jason would definitely be Thomas Jr’s favorite nephew because they are both edgy vigilantes with softer side, they think they are the coolest guy in the room, and they have a complicated relationship with Bruce
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robintherobiner · 3 months
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yesterday i spent an hour in the shower talking to myself about how I think a reverse robins au would go, mainly in the case of Tim taking Jasons place as the revived second robin. I took the Joker Junior thing and decided "Hm.. yes, this is how Tim dies."
I have many thoughts about it.
Basically, Tim's 15, has been Robin for almost two years, when his dad dies. Like in canon, Tim makes a very strategic plan which could lead to the murderers death, but Batman finds out and Tim doesn't enact it. Bruce is still mad about it, and Tim storms out the manor to go visit his dad's grave. While on the way, he gets kidnapped by the Joker and he's tortured for three weeks because Bruce thinks he's just being an angry teen giving the silent treatment. By the time he realises something is wrong and goes to find Tim, the boy is already dead. After shooting the Joker, he shot himself, and Harley Quinn is no where to be found.
Then, six months after being buried, he wakes up in his grave, right besides his father. He digs out, is found by Talia, and taken to be trained. With Jason, Ra's didn't want to heal him and Talia did it without permission, but in this au, Talia is the one who doesn't want to heal him. She thinks he's too similar to Bruce, and that she won't be able to trick him. Ra's thinks he can. He's wrong, of course.
Instead of reclaiming the name Red Hood, Tim decides to stay as Junior. After all, he was extremely mentally unstable before his death, so i think he'd still be suffering fron the torture and think Batman = bad, Joker = good. After a little while, he manages to recover a bit, but he's still mad at Bruce.
Jason forgave Bruce for not saving him, but was angry he didn't get justice.
Tim forgave Bruce for not getting him justice, but he's angry he didn't get saved.
Tim comes back to Gotham and is a lot more sneaky with his crimes. Red Hood came in guns a-blazing, straight away starting to clean Gotham up, but Junior is much more behind the scenes. If the criminals decided to do good, they'd live. It's not his fault the house they broke in to had rabid dogs squatting in it, or that their hard drives were suddenly copied and shared to everyone they knew.
Instead of attacking the new Robin, he kidnaps her instead. Sends Batman cryptic messages like "better find her soon or she'll end up like the last bird" or "you should keep a better eye on your things, Batsy". Bruce is tearing Gotham apart searching for Stephanie, thinking she's being tortured by a Joker wannabe, when actually she's just being forced to sit through slideshows about the dangers of being a child soldier and told annoying knock-knock jokes over burgers.
I might write a fic about this 🤭
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nana-mizu-shiki · 2 days
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"...you're fucking with us right?"
"...No?"
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joker jr is truly one of my favorite things in the world, it’s so good!! the angst!! the tramua is so scrumptious!! I am salivating over how complex it makes Jason and Tim’s relationships
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celaenaeiln · 6 months
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What do you think will happen if Batman!Bruce, Owlman!Thomas Wayne Jr and Batman!Thomas Wayne (are there other versions of Thomas Wayne aside just his civie? Similar to batman!Thomas?)
Bonus if the Dick Grayson is in one corner, along with Earth-3!Dick Grayson (and a version of Dick if Batman!Thomas or a version of TW has one) just watching
oh!!!
Of course Thomas Wayne has his very own Dick Grayson! It's canon for every batman to have a Dick Grayson! He actually dies to save his Dick which means a lot because Thomas Wayne!Batman is a cold, callous Batman who cares about nothing besides his own family.
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Convergence Issue #4
"Your Batman. He died protecting you. Or trying to. The bond between you and Bruce Wayne echoes in every reality."
-And that's coming from a multiuniversal artificially forged god.
But putting the three version of Batman in a room together? Chaos. Pure and absolute chaos. First between the three of them, Thomas Wayne Jr would immediately try to kill Bruce. No doubt it's kill at first sight and Bruce after the Forever Evil crisis would try to punch the life out of his alternate world brother. Now Thomas Sr actually gives a damn about his family so he would punch both of his sons and talk to them about how they're family without sounding lovey-dovey because he's a hardened old man.
About Dick though, Thomas Jr would never forgive Bruce. He would think Bruce doesn't appreciate Dick enough, and he's wasting Dick's talents. His heart would eat itself out with jealousy and hatred that Bruce's Dick is still alive and healthy but his gone. Bruce, who has nearly lost his son and was perfectly willing to let the world die if it meant getting Dick out of that death trap in forever evil, is not going to take such an insult lying down. He would boast about how Dick is the best person he knows and throw the fact that his Dick is still alive back into Owlman's face which would enrage him even more.
Thomas Sr is quietly watching all of this unfold, occasionally making derogatory comments about how his two sons should be working together, not breaking up the family for Grayson to which Thomas Jr would reply that he is perfectly willing to take his father's version of his counterpart off his hands. Now his father would be dragged fists first into the fight cause - hey. Dick's his family now too. And the man's possessive over his only remaining family.
The three Dicks are standing in the corner just watching all this play out. Bruce's would crack jokes and express concerns about everything that's happening while Owlman's would snort and make some demeaning comment. Probably towards Owlman depending on if he's been revived. Thomas Sr's is the oldest and would worry about how the heck this all happened and how his pair was going to get back and "hey, can I drive the Batmobile now?"
That question would set of a series of complaints from the other two and the Dicks would just bond over how terrible their Batman/Owlman is.
"Can you believe it? He told me I had to choose between him and the Titans!" and "You think that's bad?! Mine killed my parents to get to me!" and "Seriously? At least the worst mine did was tell me to sit down and not touch anything. Like I was some kind of sidekick. The nerve of that grumpy old man."
"Wait, yours too?!"
"Wait, yours too?!"
This whole thing becomes international news and then a crisis when Nighwing!Dick uploads a cute selfie of the three of them holding ice cream which people find cute and swoon over before they notice that in the background there's a blurred out version of two batmen? and a feathery guy? The media instantly picks up on it cause Nightwing posting anything is a Big Deal especially since he never posts stuff and because he's so popular. The hero community finds out and it's instant panic mode because Forever Evil pt.2?! The Batfamily and Titans are zipping back to Gotham faster than a speedster because WTF DICK? HELLO, TALON AND OWLMAN ALERT?! AND YOU DECIDED TO NOTIFY US THROUGH A SELFIE?
Bruce, Thomas Jr, and Thomas Sr are blissfully unaware of the avalanche of conspiracy theories, government actions, and the 50 different rescue ops by heroes that their counterparts have accidentally unleashed with their single internet selfie. They're too busy punching others' lights out while the people who started the international crisis peacefully enjoy their triple scoop chocolate chip, birthday cake, cookie dough ice cream with chocolate drizzle, extra sprinkles, and a cherry on top.
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orange-s-mario · 9 months
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hmmm. I feel like I should make a "I'm only half super" compilation for Clark Jr
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