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squishe · 2 months

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hey i rlly wanna work past the ace exclusionary beliefs i was taught when i was younger, does anyone have any advice for where to start? books or articles maybe?

#for the record. love and support every aro/ace person on the planet #it's just tough for me to call them lgbt because our goals and issues are so radically different #i wanna learn though #inclusionists please interact #acecourse #ace inclusionist #what tags do y'all use these days!!!!#asexual discourse

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chaos-in-one · 2 years

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Kisses sex positive aces in semi-sex repulsed ace

#my levels of repulsion fluctuate due to hypersexuality related issues but yk #ace #sex positive ace #sex positive #sex positivity #ace positivity #asexual #asexual positivity #ace pride #anti ace exclusion #ace inclus #ace inclusionist #ace inclusive #aspec #acespec #no ace discourse #ace exclusionist dni

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trans-isnt-fun · 7 months

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Haven't been on this site for years. Most of the debates that are on here I have never encountered when talking to real life queer people. Y'all still debating this discourse n shit?

#at this point i just like... dont care #like i have my opinions but live and let live unless youre hurting someone #discourse #lgbt discourse #transmed #tucute #ace exclusionist #ace inclusionist #battle axe bi

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gray-ace-space · 6 months

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what was y'all's identity progression? mine was something like

lesbian -> bi -> bi & ply -> ply -> ply & gray ace -> bi & gray ace -> bi lesbian & gray ace -> bi lesbian & gray ace & genderqueer

(there were a bunch of acespec and gender microlabels in there too that sorta come and go and come again but i simplified)

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caiiaxteiie · 1 year

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me: i'm aromantic.

y'all: oh, you're aroace? like, asexual?? you never fuck??? you're aro i guess, and asexual???? acespec, even????? aroace?????? because it's impossible to be aromantic and not asexual??????? you're aroace???????? basically asexual?????????

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thee-radio-host-is-a-kookaburra · 7 months

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The first split attraction model (SAM) was made in 1879 by Karl Heinrich Ulrichs and described bisexuality as well as heteroromantic homosexuality. There’s literally a whole ass wikipedia article on this. Let’s use our brains here a bit, okay?

#this is adding onto the last post abt mfs saying “sam is only for aros/aces!”#inclusivity #inclusionist #critinclus #exclusionism #mspec lesbian #mspec gay #gonna tag all the mspec monos bc ik this is a common argument used by exclusionists #and i want y’all to know that they are just straight up wrong #bi lesbian #bi straight #bi gay #mspec straight #straightbian #straightcian #queerhet #mspec mono #max squawks #split attraction model

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jennygeistvids · 22 days

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Sooo, potentially risking a nuclear bomb by posting this here, but fuck it. I did a video about 2016-2020 era "Ace Discourse," how awful and toxic it got, and how modern day LGBTQ debates are often just repeats of the same tired arguments. Let's all learn about it so we can know never to do it again. 😬

#video #video essay #asexual #ace discourse #lgbt #lgbtq #lgbt discourse #inclusionist #exclusionist #it was such a bad time guys #Youtube

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demiaroacejolynekujo · 2 months

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Shippers who use the "aroace people can date" phrase as an excuse to ship canonically aroace characters are infantilizing romance/sex repulsed aroace people. As a romance and sex favored aroace person, it's giving the same vibes as "you just haven't found the right person". I wouldn't be surprised if these shippers end up becoming exclusionists down the line.

#anti exclusionist #inclusionist #rad inclus #radical inclusionist #asexual #aromantic #acespec #arospec #radical inclusion #aphobia #queerphobia #aroace erasure #asexual aromantic #aroace spectrum #asexual spectrum #aromantic spectrum #ace spectrum #aro spectrum

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voidwithtoomanygooglyeyes · 6 months

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Inclusionists and Radqueers

(quick note, I use the term "queer community" instead of "lgbtq+ community")

I think that many people need to know the difference between inclusionists and radqueers because a surprising amount of people don't.

One of the main differences is that inclusionists know the difference between valid, good-faith terminology and bad-faith, troll terminology, while radqueers do not (or don't care). This means that both inclusionists and radqueers accept communities such as xenogenders, neopronouns, a-specs (asexual spectrum, and aromantic spectrum), m-specs (multigender spectrum), and m-specs (multi-sexual/attraction spectrum) as valid parts of the queer community. However, radqueers take this many leaps further by accepting (harmful) xenogenders, (harmful) neopronouns (usually nounself pronouns based on sensitive topics or offensive words), and just generally harmful terms (e.g. transracial, z00philes, pokesexual, MAPs), as a part of the queer community.

This again, is one of the largest differences between inclusionists and radqueers. Many inclusionists understand the harm radqueers cause the queer community, and do not associate themselves with them due to this fact.

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gardeninthevoid · 6 months

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new hair, new-ish earrings, and old crop top i never showed u 💗💜🏳‍🌈

(he/she)

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mercutiodidntdieforthis · 3 months

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The wave of Thomas Sanders hate that was going for ages just because of him acting mildly annoying to some people while making jokes and being nice to people was INSANE. He's literally always been a cool guy

#this isn't directed at anyone in particular I just saw him on my dash and felt happy lol #same thing happened to fish when she was first popular #people who felt annoyed by her positive posts due to their own bitterness started making up rly serious accusations about her?????#I know this for Thomas but I think also for fish too: a not-so-fun-fact is that a lot of the rumors were started by exclusionists #literally accusing them of serious shit just bc they're inclusionists......insane #ace discourse tw //#lgbt discourse tw //#(Note: I don't like calling it 'discourse' because that makes it seem unserious but I think that's the most common way to blacklist it)

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foxfairy06 · 8 months

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why do you think aspecs aren’t lgbtq+ have you read any gay history or do you just think we don’t exist because we do man and you also said “no kink at pride” but then we don’t exist

For one this isn't even a coherent argument. It's accusative, leading, and poorly structured and thus difficult to read, but I'll try my best.

So, i never said they aren't lgbtq+, i think the q+ is bullshit. It ends with T. The thing that holds us all together is the same type of issue. Issues relating to our gender, and what specific struggles that come about from it. Two experiences in particular. Same gender attraction, and gender dysphoria. Asexuals experience none of this.

They also have no meaningful association with our history, you'll see they were invited to pride, not made part of the subject matter or hosted as a main voice of the community at any point in integral pre-internet lgbt history (it's not just gay). The fact you insinuate such associates without providing any source as to how they are a part of LGBT history specifically doesn't help either. If you make a claim about history you should reference a specific thing that happened at that key event, or provide a source.

I never said you don't exist, in fact in several posts that asexuals and aromantic people do exist, have, a unique experience, are orientations, and are not a choice. However just because something is valid doesn't mean it is LGBT. Yes you exist, congratulations. However, your particular issues are not what the focus of the LGBT community is. Unless you have a separate romantic or sexual orientation that is towards the same gender or you have gender dysphoria. I'm sorry but heteroromantic cisgender asexuals just aren't LGBT.

No kink at pride has nothing to do with the asexuals argument, that's a red herring. Even then, these arguments are not mutually exclusive, and have separate reasons for them. I don't exclude kink from pride because i oppose sex and put everything non-sexual on a pedestal. Personally I'm a big fan of sexual environments. However that is not an environment literal children trying to express their identity need.

Also again, not at ome point did i say you don't exist.

Hope that helps!

#ace discourse #exclusionist #ace exclusionist #anti inclusionist #gravity knife gay #anti inclus #battleaxe bi #longsword lesbian #exclus #transmed #transmed safe #esai lgbt

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chaos-in-one · 2 years

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Okay but in all seriousness I have never met an exclusionist who didn't turn out to also be ableist.

Not even just talking about terfs. Transmeds, ace exclusionists, battleaxe bis, anti mogai/neopronouns/xenogenders, etc. too. I literally have not found one, in the 5 years I have been active in the community, who didn't also say ableist bullshit. Tbh starting to doubt non ableist exclusionists even exist because I literally have never seen a single one.

#inclusionist #ableism #critical inclusionist #ace inclusionist #pro mspec #pro mogai #pro neopronouns #pro xenogender #anti battleaxe bi #anti transmed #anti exclusionist

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spacedouterri · 5 months

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Still dont get how ppl will be like

This identity is okay

But i dont think this identity should exist

#anyway ace/aros for mspec/male lesbians and mspec/girl gays #errirambles #<3 #youre either an inclusionist or and exclusionist #and i dont fuck with exclusionists

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gray-ace-space · 6 days

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happy lesbian visibility week to acespec lesbians!

💜 to gray asexual lesbians

❤ to demisexual lesbians

🧡 to aceflux lesbians (and all lesbians whose sexuality is fluid)

🩷 to trans, nonbinary, and multigender acespec lesbians (transfem, transmasc, and those who are neither!)

💜 to bi, pan, and all mspec acespec lesbians

❤ and specifically mspec lesbians who are acespec in different ways/to different degrees for different genders

🧡 to intersex acespec lesbians

🩷 to acespec lesbians of color

💖 to disabled and neurodivergent acespec lesbians, and especially those of you who are autistic - happy autism acceptance month! ❤🧡💖🩷💜

💜 to acespec femmes and butches and gnc lesbians

❤ to acespec lesbians whose sexuality is influenced by trauma

🧡 to sex repulsed acespec lesbians, sex favorable acespec lesbians, and everyone in between

🩷 to lesbians who feel alienated from lesbian communities due to their asexuality

💜 and to acespec lesbians still figuring themselves out!

i see you. you are appreciated.💖

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a-frog-in-a-bog · 1 month

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remember in the height of ace discourse when inclusionists would make ace "positivity" posts that were like "don't listen to those mean exclusies! you ARE oppressed! everyone DOES hate you! coming out WILL ruin friendships! there ARE aphobic hate crimes and you WILL be targeted! you ARE at a higher risk for conversion therapy! you are valid <3" girl in what world is that affirming. in what world will that make an ace teen feel better about their sexuality. make fun of the love is love and it gets better campaigns all you want but at least their message was actually positive

#i think they were meant to counter those posts that said aces aren't oppressed but that was like the worst way to go about it lmao #gay teenager: nobody's fired or kicked out for being ace #inclusionist: ok maybe but we actually have it way worse in every other way. this is validating #mine

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