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chonkymoth · 6 months
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I'd like to present an idea to the masses...........
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kydoesthings1 · 2 months
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McGillis and the Pied Piper
because February 24th’s Wordle was piper and I am procrastinating on school work
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At 16:57 of S2E21 (E46) Gaelio says this to McGillis before charging him.
(Gaelio is speaking through the comms offscreen.)
(Apparently this line was also used in a game. I forgot which one. I don't play Gundam games.)
Gaelio literally says something along the lines of "Are you still going to play the pipe of Hamelin even when the battle is going like this?" Not sure why this is the subtitle. But they mostly mean the same thing so maybe I'm just nitpicking.
To refresh your memory a little, this is when the Revolutionary Fleet is very clearly losing to Arianrhod, and McGillis just made his pep talk and this iconic frame. They are preparing to retreat and regroup when Gaelio shows up to fight McGillis.
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Gaelio referencing the Pied Piper of Hamelin (Hameln, same thing) is of course connected to McGillis's and thus his love of myth/folk tales. Because of McGillis's influence, Gaelio also has a strong liking for stories. He names himself and Gundam Vidar/Kimaris Vidar after Vidar, the Norse god of revenge and silence, son of Odin and slayer of Fenrir (Fenris, same thing but IBO uses Fenrir) the monster wolf son of Loki during Ragnarok. The same side story 'Eve of Vidar' also tells us he used to hit on girls using Norse mythology fun facts, including Yamazin Toka when he was a test pilot for the Schwalbe Graze.
Although these are relatively common knowledge for us, the viewers, they are probably niche facts however many years in the future the Post Disaster timeline is (in UC0079 Hitler and WW2 is considered "middle ages" despite being historically quite recent for us). This is one thing Gaelio and McGillis have in common and it is because of McGillis.
(Also this is kind of a weak diss? Like if you're gonna insult McGillis why compare him to something so cool. "Snake on the moon" - now that's an insult. But I digress.)
But what is the Pied Piper exactly? The Pied Piper, or the Ratcatcher (der Rattenfänger) is a legend of the town Hamelin in Lower Saxony of Germany. There are dozens of variations of this tale, but I'll only be talking about the most popular versions that relate to the events of IBO.
In 1284, Hamelin had a rat problem. Basically there were a whole bunch of rats, and they made life suck for the townspeople, as large numbers of rats tend to do. According to Robert Browning's poem, the people were mad at the mayor for not being able to solve the problem, and were about to kick him out. Then a man wearing a coat of many bright colors (Browning's version says yellow and red, both in McGillis's palette at some point) and holding a pipe showed up. The Piper promised to get rid of all the rats in exchange for 1000 guilders. He then played his pipe and all the rats came out and followed him into the river Weser and drowned.
The townspeople did not follow through on their end, however, and came up with all sorts of excuses to not give him the promised 1000 guilders. This angered the Piper, and he played his pipe again, and this time all 130 of the town's children came out and followed him away dancing and they never returned, nor were they ever seen again. Versions disagree on what happened to the children. In the Grimm Brothers and Browning's versions they went to Transylvania. Others say they went to a land like paradise in a cave. Others say they drowned in the river like the rats.
So how does this relate to McGillis and IBO? Well actually it's pretty obvious - Gaelio is simply saying McGillis is luring Isurugi, the Revolutionary Fleet and Tekkadan to their doom with false promises.
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However, the point of this post is to point out some interesting details of this parallel. The Piper lured the children of Hamelin away as an act of revenge on the adults of the town because they didn't pay him what was rightfully his for his service. McGillis's coup can be framed as revenge on the corrupt system of the world Gjallarhorn maintains, and those who personally victimized him.
Interestingly, some accounts describe the Piper as "a miracle of God" and that he was sent to test the townspeople, and punish them when they didn't keep their word. Others call him the devil in disguise, who intended to trick the people and take their children. This is like how McGillis can be seen as a charismatic leader aiming to change the world for the better, or a ruthless, cold-blooded, lying, backstabbing, power-hungry traitor who will stop at nothing.
Additionally, Bael, the demon king, is a fallen angel who was cast out with Lucifer for rebelling against God, and Gundam Bael's gunpla box describes it as "a demon with the appearance of an angel" (this could also apply to McGillis himself).
In many versions of the story, some children are left behind. Which ones exactly vary, but Browning's focuses on a boy with a broken leg who couldn't keep up with the other children, so he was able to tell the villagers where he saw them go. The boy said they went into a portal on the side of the mountain, and on the other side was a paradise where everything was beautiful and peaceful. The boy was very sad he couldn't join his friends there because now he was all alone and couldn't return to that land.
Sounds kind of familiar, doesn't it?
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In the epilogue, Gaelio is in a wheelchair and his bandaged neck suggests that his Alaya-Vijnana implants had been removed fairly recently. Supplemental info reveals that McGillis injured his spine during their fight at Edmonton, and Gaelio was only able to be up and about in S2 thanks to his AVS.
If the land the Piper and the children went to is Heaven, then this could be read as Gaelio being the only one not to follow McGillis into death, and being the sole survivor of his friends (for the sake of this argument Julieta doesn't count because Gaelio wasn't fighting for or against her).
An important difference is the boy longed to follow the Piper, while Gaelio rejected McGillis because he schemed to kill him and his friends.
The Piper's other name, the Ratcatcher? Tekkadan are space rats?
Also McGillis's true name Montag, presumably his surname before Iznario's adoption, is German for Monday, hinting at his heritage, and the Piper is a German story (obviously).
The Pied Piper is a legend that originated in the Middle Ages, and Gjallarhorn's leadership, ideology and overall aesthetic is reminiscent of that.
There is a version of the story that the Piper will return in 300 years. Which he did not do, but 300 years? McGillis, the self-proclaimed successor to Agnika Kaieru after 300 years?
I can't be bothered to write a separate piece on Gaelio's legs so I should also mention that Vidar, the Norse god defeats Fenrir by stepping on his lower jaw with his shoe made from all the collected pieces of leather people cut from their own shoes, and grabbing his upper jaw and ripping him apart at the mouth.
Vidar's special shoes are like how Gaelio says he’s carrying all the wishes of Carta and Ein, and the AVS Type-E also serves as his literal feet. (Also he wears very striking white thigh-high boots that are very hot. What they're not is part of the Gjallarhorn uniform, just to make this connection, in addition to exacting revenge in style.)
In many carvings, Vidar is shown stabbing Fenrir through the heart also, and Gaelio/Kimaris Vidar defeats McGillis by pinning him against the Arianrhod flagship and stabbing him/Bael through the torso.
Proposed origins of the Pied Piper
Now obviously there was no piper guy dressed in goofy clothes that stole all the children of a town with magic music. There are several theories about what the legend is based on. This has nothing to do with IBO anymore and I just thought it was fun so feel free to stop reading if you don't agree.
Plague: According to this theory, all the children died because of illness and the place they went to is a mass grave. The Piper's many-colored clothing represents the sores and discoloration of skin of those who contracted the illness, and he is the personification of the plague/death. Rats are carriers of fleas, which spread the plague. 1284 is a bit too early for the Bubonic Plague (Black Death) though, so it may have been something else.
Emigration: The emigration theory suggests that much of the people of Hamelin moved to eastern Europe in search of better opportunities as only the eldest son had inheritance and the others could only be serfs. In this theory, "children of Hamelin" are not actual children, and it's just a figure of speech to say they were of a certain place. This correlates with some versions where the Piper and the children he took were sighted in Transylvania.
Human trafficking/the Children's Crusades: In these two theories the Piper is the recruiter/trafficker and the story was made up by the town to please their officials.
Dancing mania: There have been records of dancing mania in about the same time period in the surrounding region, and children were among the affected. Dancing mania can sometimes result in death due to exhaustion. It was originally attributed to a curse by a saint (St. John or St. Vitus) and you had to pray to them to lift the curse. Modern explanations for dancing mania are neurological disorders or collective mental disorders.
Pagan ritual: supposedly the pipe music and dancing children are part of this ritual that took place in the mountains, and the children died from a landslide or similar accident.
"You're reading way too much into Gaelio's one line" no actually I am reading exactly the right amount into it and everyone else isn't reading into it enough
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cleabellanov · 6 months
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It's a countdown!! (is it though?)
Last Thursday, thorofficial posted the first *oddly* related Loki thing from a series of such posts that had my kind spiraling, so welcome to me putting it here.
Last week, I thought we'd get a surprise and Thor would make an appareance in that post credit-scene already, but that wasn't the case. Instead, the clock started ticking.
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This starts, as any other stories that we know of, at the beginning. It starts with two brothers that don't know a lot about the world and will, inevitably, shape it after the words of their father. They don't know they're not blood brothers yet, but are growing up as they were.
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Loki is being told that they were both born to be king, and he believes it, not seeing the lie in beLIEve yet. But it is true, he too was born to be king, only not in Odin's eyes. Odin, aware of this fact...doesn't really care. Not enough to treat his sons equally, only enough to keep Loki as a bargain for when times ask for it. In the first Thor movie, Loki's villain arc begins, once with the pain of finding out who he truly is. More than that, in this first movie, we get to see her rage unfiltered. The "What happened on Earth that turned you so soft" and "Tell me", for example. He is the God of Mischief, but mischief has its dark side as well.
That being said, it makes sense for these messages (so to call them, if I may) to start here. And the clock!! It is at 7:00, and how many days were there left to the finale? Seven. But hang on, it's set to drop more!
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We all remember all too well (2 h 23 minutes version) that The Avengers 2012 was the next movie Loki was in. Now we are one hour/ day closer - see how the clock is now at 6 instead of 7. And it's a double countdown: to the season 2 finale AND to Loki's journey on the original timeline.
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The sequence that was posted is significant for the movie, it's when we first hear Loki say the famous: "I am burdened with glorious purpose". But with unusual blue eyes and sweat dripping off their forehead, not to mention the tripping and overall tiredness of these first scenes; this also seems to come with a lot of pain.
And ohhh lord, there is a lot of pain bottled up in their character in The Avengers movie. The desire for a throne (together with the need to prove himself), the revenge, the mentaining of the illusion by fear and hurt...the constant manipulation Th@nòs put him through.
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But that could make a whole other post. The desire for a throne, remember? "What's wrong with wanting something, Loki?". Well, when he tried to get back promise to be king, something that was claimed and was, truly, his birth right, Loki was told his birth right was to die. It feels ME with rage to even picture that scene!!! Imagine being the one who is told this, then put in a cell "for the rest of your days", all after the battle of New York.
And this is the point where the clock in the caption is one hour/ day closer, at 5'oclock...
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Ohhh well, isn't this a beautiful image? The "your savior is here", Loki and Thor having a more lighted relationship, even though Thor thought his brother was gone at the start of the movie. This is a very important sequence, because it shows Loki finally turning back to his brother and to Asgard, on a ship to take them away from the ultimate destruction of Ragnarok. It's the first time we get a glance at the God of a Mischief using her villanous traits more for the good side, and it's amazing. With the time being 4 o'clock, there are only 4 days separating us from the finale. Just like the flow of time: never feeling regular, sometimes I wish I was closer, sometimes farther away.
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Oh, look at that! We're getting closer to midnight? But what does it mean? Once the clock strikes 00:00, what happens? Could it be hinting to a reset..?
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In today's post, we saw Loki picking up that Tessaract and escaping the avengers, which would ultimately cause the events of Season 1. This is the last time we saw him on the original timeline and the first introducing TVA, or variant, Loki. This right here was their nexus event, the something that changed everything. According to the TVA, that wasn't supposed to happen, it was wrong. But under who's rules? Season 1's socialist-like approach, hwr's script, the flow of time itself, those are all behind us now. Everyone can write their own stories, right?
bonus: mini-theory
My theory is that, instead of altering the story, they're going to ask all their different variants in these specific points in time for help. What would they do? And imagine the power of all these Lokis, or making them work on a team! Either way, I see it as a captivating thought.
It's more likely that this episode will center more around the TVA than the past and the Sacred timeline. But even so, the countdown is still there!!! WHAT ARE YOU UP TO MARVEL
As long as everyone is fine by the end, I am happy.
I hope you enjoyed my insomnia activities and thanks for reading ✨
Also thank you to the Gif creators, those look amazing
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zibus · 2 months
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Since it seems that Egghead is coming to a close soon(ish?), I've been thinking about what themes from the arc might be able to clue us in to what's coming for Elbaf (and perhaps the rest of the Final Saga). Oda often uses a short arc to set up not just the plot, but also themes for the saga to come. My favorite example is Long Ring Long Land planting the seeds of "what if we lost a crew member" before Water 7 and Ennnies Lobby.
In addition, all of the post-timeskip arcs have had important parallel themes and often plot payoffs to pre-skip arcs. Fishman Island -> East Blue (specifically Arlong Park). Dressrossa -> Alabasta(warlord takeover) & Skypia(Noland & being forgotten). Whole Cake -> Water 7/Ennies Lobby. Wano -> Thriller Bark is the weakest, but all of the ideas of night and Luffy bringing the dawn is super prevalent, Moria is the first person to give us details about Kaido, and we meet Rayuma's zombie.
So following that parallel, the Final Saga parallels Summit War, which, duh. But still, maybe we can pull some information and thoughts other than that there will be a war at the end of it.
Looking at Egghead, there's a big theme of hidden identities. There's some of this with Kuma, but of course its most prevalent with the Vegapunks. Each of the satellites can be thought of as a "mask" of Vegapunk's, and Vegapunk himself is revealed to be an ally when we probably expected him to be antagonistic. There are traitors on both sides with Stussy and York.
This idea of identity is also closely tied to loyalty. Vegapunk's disloyalty to the World Government vs. Kizaru. Stussy vs. York. Kuma's (and the Pacifistas') loyalty towards Bonney. Off the island itself, you get Aikanu vs. Garp and their loyalties, as well as the idea of Sword as a special force within the Navy.
Looking at Marineford, we get a lot about sacrifice with Whitebeard, Oars, and Ace. This is tied to the pacing of the torch from the old era to the new, with Blackbeard sweeping in to claim the top spot from Whitebeard. We also get a ton about family, especially found family and Luffy's family with Garp and Ace (and Sabo). And, of course, there's the war.
So how might these themes and ideas play out in Elbaf?
Well with the themes of identities, we've been told the current prince of the Elbaf giants is named Loki, obviously named after the god of trickery and lies from Norse myth which the Elbaf giants are heavily inspired by. The only other thing we know about Prince Loki is that he fell in love with Charlotte Lola but she turned him down. The presence of Loki, combined with the theme of hidden identities tells me all is not as it seems on Elbaf. When we arrive, someone or someones are not going to be who they say they are. Most likely there will be something related to Loki himself, but there's another possibility.
This idea is not original to me, but besides Loki, who's the most iconic Norse god? Thor, the god of lightning. And which character we haven't seen in a while has the powers of lightning? Enel. We know he's coming back after his cover story on the moon. Perhaps rather than seeing his return, Enel will already be on Elbaf with an assumed identity, ready to wreck havoc once again.
But there are other very important characters on Elbaf, and the most significant one is, of course, Shanks. Assuming Oda doesn't go out of his way to save the reunion for Laughtale, its hard to see how Luffy and Shanks don't meet on Elbaf. Luffy has finally reached Shanks level by becoming a fellow Emperor, and so its time to return the straw hat as promised.
On the level of hidden identities, I don't subscribe to the evil!Shanks theories, but I definitely think we will learn a lot about him. I think Shanks definitely needs to become a much more complex and morally nuanced character. If Shanks is a Celestial Dragon by blood as many suspect, I think that would be a great stepping stone.
On the level of families, Shanks is Luffy's truest father figure, so much so that Luffy has barely given his biological father two thoughts. Given what we've learned about Vegapunk's connection to the Revolutionary Army, and that Saul has almost certainly taken the remnants of Ohara's research to Elbaf, my harebrained prediction is that Dragon and co will arrive on Elbaf as well. If Bonney & Kuma travel with the Strawhats and Nika for a while, that would give the RA even more reason to visit. My prediction is we get some juicy parallels between and completely new understandings of Luffy's two fathers, as well as continued development of the found family themes present throughout the entire story so far.
On the level of sacrifice, I'm really torn. Shanks has already sacrificed so much for Luffy. Having him make a full sacrifice either in Elbaf or soon after seems not exactly Oda's style. On the other hand, Shanks is the last original Emperor. If we're truly going to usher in a new era, can Shanks be there at the top? We've been preparing for a Blackbeard v. Shanks rematch since at least Marineford. Having that promise fulfilled here would be extra poetic. And having Teach take down Luffy's mentor would make him Luffy's greatest enemy in a way no other villain has been. Even if it's not Shanks, I'm convinced there will need a big sacrifice to finally pave the way for Luffy's new era of freedom.
There's so much more that could be said about all the story threads coming to a head at Elbaf. Obviously Usopp's storyline is coming to a head. He will definitely become a brave warrior of the sea, and perhaps supplant Prince Loki to finally become God Usopp. He will definitely lead an army of 80,000. Big Mom will probably return, or at the very least we will learn how she gained Mother Caramel's devil fruit powers - which will probably tell us how Blackbeard and co do it as well. Robin will find the final Road Poneglyph and probably the first big clues of the Void Century/Will of D. from the Ohara research. The Strawhat Grand Fleet will arrive, if not at Elbaf specifically definitely soon after - just as Whitebeard's allies came to Marineford.
(Oooo! just had a thought. Will the Strawhat fleet arrive from the sky instead of beneath the ocean? That would be heckin rad.)
But this post is already absurdly long. Hope you enjoyed my rambles, and we'll see how much about Elbaf I get right!
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hard--headed--woman · 2 months
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this may seem random but I was scrolling your blog and one of your recent posts was about what got you into radfem ideology and I wanted to add my own story cause it was similar.
I remember having blogs on here for various fandoms and being around when the push to headcanon every other character as trans came about. coincidentally, it was always the taller, broader women that got labeled as trans women (but always in some progressive light like they were bestowing them the "honor").
at first, I just kept myself out of it. I didn't know enough about being trans to add my own opinion. but then, on my blogs, I would get asks about "gender headcanons" (do you remember those? jfc) and I would feel pressured to make at LEAST one trans, if not nonbinary, even though it all seemed so redundant.
I ended up removing myself from fandom culture completely until very recently. I keep my opinions separate from my new fandom blog, for my own sanity, but it does irritate me to see that this obsession with every character being queer is still alive and well. and yet us actual gay people are just supposed to pretend it's not a trend.
Oh my god the gender headcanons 😭 I literally hated them. I remember when I was deep into the Loki show fandom ; it was literally impossible not to headcanon Loki and Sylvie as trans, non binary or genderfluid. That was ALL people were talking about. Just because Sylvie is a strong and badass female character, she of course had to be a trans woman or at least some sort of non binary. And obviously you couldn't say you disagreed, or you were an evil TERF. People would spam the tags and the discord servers with this, and send you asks to ask you what were your gender headcanons, and you couldn't say you just saw them as normal women and men.
Fandoms are so obsessed with gender. I read fics sometimes, OK, I like it, actually. And when you look for fanfictions you literally cannot spend two seconds without seeing tags like "trans Ronald Weasley", "genderfluid Nymphadora Tonks" and shit like that. Crazy.
People are obsessed with making characters "queer". They'll turn every character into some nuance of trans or non binary, often poly and pansexual too. Everything about the characters then becomes related to "queerness" or "gender" - the way they act, dress, speak, everything they do, say or like. They're no more depth or intersting personalities, it's just "queer uwu". And you have, of course, to headcanon some characters as trand or enby, or you're boring and possibly terfy.
Also I agree with you - I notice it's always the characters that are even just a bit gnc that get headcanoned as non binary, especially female characters. Sylvie isn’t a nice pretty little princess who gives up on everything for her man and her outfit isn’t sexualized ? Trans. Tonks has short hair ? Non binary! This masculine female character ? Trans of course. Sooo annoying.
I removed myself from fandom spaces too lol. Because of their obsession with gender, but also their misogyny in general. Female characters are treated like shit by fandoms. They get ignored, vilanized, killed off/pushed out of the way for male characters, treated like sexual objects... I just decided to abandon my side blogs and to leave the fandom discord servers I was in. I can't enjoy fandom in such conditions.
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snowflakesnsundry · 5 months
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Okay listen up nerds
i am so fuckin sorry ive been gone so goddamn long I've been a bit of a mess. I ended up losing my job but weirdly it's kinda been the best thing to happen to me in a while. It had gotten really unhealthy for me-which isnt the point of this post but...
I have just finished Loki seaon 2 and I gotta talk about it right now and in unreasonable depth
STARTING with the end.
Firstly, for any of you who have not read Jason Aaron's "King Thor" series. I reccommend you do right now.
When i started my fic I read every single Thor/ Loki comic i could get my grubby little hands on- and out of all of them, there was just one that tore my fucking heart in half- Aaron's King Thor run.
And I am not kidding when I say it's beautifully written- but I am also not kidding when I say this is exactly where our season 2 ending came from- just.... well.... look-
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In the story, the God Butcher has swallowed the universe until only one singular star remains; dying and soon to flicker out. It can survive if there is something to re-start it. Something, or someone to provide it with power
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FUCKING LOOK AT THE VISUAL PARALELLS IN THAT LAST PANNEL EVEN???
Honestly when the God Butcher showed up in Thor: Love and Thunder it made me nervous because of this ending, because it is heartbreaking and beautiful particularly within the context of the story-
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-because heres the thing.
The Loki in the comics is not as kind and fuzzy as the one in the TV show and movies- the newer comic loki has taken a lot of ques from Hiddleston's Loki, but thats sort of the exception to the rule. In the comics he is constantly lashing out at thor with hate and anger and rage- its an inescapable centuries long cycle for them.
But even as Loki has betrayed Thor to the God Butcher, even as the universe is breathing its last breaths and fading into darkness... we get this:
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These two brothers, enemies for countless lifetimes... in their last moments, they reach for one another until there is nothing left and i was INCONSOLABLE.
If you haven't read the Thor or the Loki comics, you dont have to read them all- but I do encourage you to at least read this one run. It's 4 "books" (and contains a lot from Aaron's run as a writer for Thor as this was his last series before moving on) but its worth it for this moment- particularly as it relates to the TV series
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Regardless, I think we have all heard about Hiddleston chasing Owen Wilson down to tell him every last thing about the Loki lore so I swear to god he knows about this and the fucking writers did this on purpose stg.
Anyway- the use of this particular plot was beautifully exicuted and we love the comics being blended into the MCU in such a lovely way.
I have more thoughts overall but this has been clawing at me all goddamn night and I had to share it with you all.
Watching has gotten me back to writing, and I hope to be back fully very soon.
<3
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buffyfan145 · 5 months
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I knew I was going to get Haladriel thoughts reading "The Witch's Heart", which is a retelling of Norse mythology from Angrboda's (Loki's first partner/wife), POV but OMG this really is weirdly similar at times. It's well known Tolkien based Sauron/Mairon off of Loki and I know more about Sigyn since she's normally the most well known of his wives (and of course his other Marvel love interests) but I see Galadriel in both of them. 😏 LOL Also it's interesting all this is happening at the same time in this book as normally Loki's with Angrbody thousands of years before he even becomes a god and then marries Sigyn after they're parted, but so much more drama this way.
With Angrboda she's a witch that's been outcasted from all the others and especially Odin. She ends up being a feared witch in the woods that most are afraid of, similar to how Galadriel was talked of by the men that didn't actually know her as well as from the other elves. Angrboda ends up having 3 children by Loki (all with his green eyes): their daughter who almost died Hel (Hela) and later becomes the ruler of Hel or the underworld of the dead and in the book also falls in love with Baldur (Odin's son adored by everyone and now a very common thing in adaptations even though they weren't a couple in the original myths); Fenrir (Fenris) the large wolf and Jörmungandr (Jorm) the serpent and both boys play a part at the end of the world after they're taken from their mother. It ends badly between her and Loki making them enemies as their children are taken away and he ends their marriage revealing more of his deceiving. Angrboda's also has foresight like Galadriel too and knows how the world is going to end and how Loki plays a huge part in it but doesn't tell him. So their story goes more like how we know Galadriel and Sauron's does.
Then there's Sigyn. She's depicted here just like in the myths and Marvel as being a blonde-haired goddess of loyalty/fidelity. Regardless of what Loki does she forgives him and still loves him, and eventually turns against the gods when one son Váli kills the other Narfi (Nari) after the gods turned him into a werewolf and the torture they put Loki through. In Marvel she learns to use magic from Loki and I'm curious if the same happens in this book since I have some more left to read. Also at one point Angrboda has a vision of Loki leading an army on a boat to fight the gods at Ragnarök and Sigyn is the one by his side and reminded me so much of this scene with Haladriel. LOL 😀
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So I'm really enjoying this book, and there's still a lot of romance in it as well, and Loki looks more like how the Norse myths described him with reddish hair and green eyes, and we know that's similar to "Rings of Power" Halbrand/Sauron (and still Tom's when he has red hair), and now getting this including the other gods calling him "The Shapeshifter", "Mischief Maker", and "Father of Wolves". I posted before about Loki and Sauron but there does seem to be a lot of similarities between them, which Tolkien likely planned, but for both his wives/partners in the myths to be so similar to Galadriel is great. And I'd totally rec anything Loki or Norse mythology related to read being a LOTR fan and Haladriel shipper.
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mannazandwyrd · 2 years
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On a possible lost name of Loki:
I have speculated previously that, in order to incorporate new ideas into heathenry, we not only need to be reading current scholars’ work and revising our ideas to fit the currently available evidence into the Religion With Homework(™); we also need to find ways to evaluate unverified personal gnosis (UPG) and shared gnosis (SPG) from devotees for possible incorporation into new theology. With this blog post, I’m going to put my money where my mouth is.
I have a longstanding UPG (from multiple pendulum-and-alphabet-board conversations with Loki over the course of months, confirmed by other divination methods) that Loki was once also named ‘Aceilon’. Loki tells me it’s pronounced with a hard C, Ah-Keel-on. (Yes, I have very enthusiastic permission from the aspect of Loki who I interact with to share this ‘lost name’.)
There doesn’t appear to be a shred of independent evidence for that name ever being used (although perhaps I’m not looking in the right places). So, how does one evaluate this new piece of information?
Well, we could discard it immediately based on it being UPG. We could ask for independent confirmation from other devotees, which would make it SPG, still a fairly tenuous status.
Or we could measure it against what we do know about Loki. My last post looked at a number of possible etymologies of Old Norse ‘Loki’. (Probably not all those etymologies are completely sound. I am Not A Linguist and not able to evaluate them myself.) William Sayers, in “Norse ‘Loki’ As A Praxonym”, notes that many of the names of deities and other entities in Old Norse myths give us information about those who bear them.
So, if ‘Aceilon’ is a lost name for Loki, it should reflect Loki’s personality and other qualities in its etymology.
I’m not sure what language ‘Aceilon’ would be. It may have the form of a Continental Celtic god name, or one from an even earlier bronze- or stone-age culture. We do know that Norse mythology probably resulted from the meeting of multiple belief systems during the Migration Age or earlier, so a non-Germanic etymology isn’t out of the question, but it would still likely have a Proto-Indo-European root.
(‘Aceilon’ may be related in some way to the Greek mythical figure Achilles, but Old Norse ‘Loki’ likely predates Achilles’ stories, given that some of the proposed roots of ‘Loki’ are proto-Germanic… so I’m treating Achilles as a distraction.)
Let’s start with the suffix of ‘Aceilon’: -on as a suffix meaning “one who [preceding verb]” is currently found in French and was also used in Old French - possibly, via Ancient Greek, ultimately from Proto-Indo-European *-os (creates nouns from verb stems)) or a diminutive (in French, Old French); some of the French words with this suffix derive from *-onos, the corresponding Celtic singulative suffix (seen in some pre-Roman Continental Celtic male deity names, with -ona as the female form), which probably has the same PIE root.
Okay, so using that gives us a working hypothesis that ‘Aceilon’ means “One Who [Verb]s”, where the verb was ‘aceil’ or ‘akeil’ or ‘ceil’ or ‘keil’, or the root words that became those sounds. What survivals of such a verb could exist?
1. It could have survived in Gaelic as ceilidh, a party of neighbours with music or stories, which comes from an Old Irish word céile meaning companion, follower, or servant [fitting for the travel companion of Odin, Hoenir, and Thor, and for the plot-driver of so many stories]. The Old Irish word in turn comes from proto-Celtic *kelyos, further etymology uncertain but possibly from PIE *ḱey- ‘to lie down, to settle’ [which ties in with Sayers’ notes on Old Norse lúka as a root of Loki], which is related to PIE *tḱey- ‘to cultivate, to settle, to live’ and PG *haimaz ‘settlement, village, house, home’ [interesting in light of Eldar Heide’s discussion of Loki as a house/hearth wight or vätte].
2. It may have survived into modern German as keil ‘wedge, (heraldry) pile’, from protoWestGermanic *kinan, protoGermanic *kinana (split, crack open, germinate), from PIE *ǵeyH- (“to break open, germinate”). [Loki as a fertility deity, or the one who breaks open situations where there is an impasse?]
Keil is also a city in Schleswig-Holstein, Germany, established as a Danish village on Kieler Förde (German) and Kiel Bugt (Danish, ‘Keil Bay’), a harbour on the Baltic sea, not far from Hedeby/Haithabu where worship of Sirius/Lokabrenna was recorded.
3. English ceil (as in conceal or ceiling) could be another survival, and things get quite interesting with its PIE root: *ḱel- (verb) to cover or (noun) incline, with the sense of a hill. [Loki as a chthonic deity, consistent with Liberman’s etymology of Loki.]
The following words all come from PIE *ḱel-:
- Ceil (English, Irish, verb) ‘to hide, conceal’ , from Old Irish ceilid, from Proto-Celtic *keleti; compare Welsh celu, Latin cēlō, Old English helan. [In Loka Tattur, Loki is the only deity who succeeds in concealing the boy to protect him. In addition to its meaning, Ceil is a homophone with seal, one of the animals Loki transforms into.
- Hel (Old Norse, Loki’s daughter and her realm) from *haljo (Proto-Germanic) ‘netherworld’
- Hella (Frisian), Hylja (Old Norse), and Hill (modern English) from *huljaną (Proto-Germanic) ‘to cover, veil’
- Holda (Old Swedish), Hallen (and thus Frau Halle?)(Low German), Halda (Old Norse) from *haldaną (Proto-Germanic) ‘to hold, to keep’ [Holda/Holle/Halle might be be related to Loki’s mother Laufey or daughter Hel, and a disguised Loki says “Let Hel hold what she has.”]
- Proto-Germanic: *helmô (handle or boat helm) [Loki steers/helms the ship in Loka Tattur and at Ragnarok]
- Modern English Hall (as in house) from PG *hallo [Loki as a hearth deity]
- Proto-Germanic *hēliz ‘deceitful, treacherous’ [Loki’s main attribute in Snorri’s Eddas]
- Proto-Germanic *huliso ‘case, covering, pod’ [the acorn Loki carries Idunn home in] and cognates in Italic languages meaning ‘outside, aspect, color’ [the gift Loki-as-Lodurr gives to humanity in the creation myth]
- Middle English helen (to conceal, clothe, shelter, protect, etc) from OE helan from Proto-Germanic *helana (“to conceal, stash, receive stolen goods” [Loki as thief of Freya’s necklace]
- Old Saxon helian ‘to heal, to cure, to save’ [Loki saves a child in Loka Tattur; there are some UPGs in the community of Loki as a healer but that’s not an attested description.]
- Old High German helen ‘to brighten’ [or illuminate, as with a (pine) torch - kenaz.]
- Proto-Germanic *hul(th)az ‘gracious, loyal, devoted, inclined toward’ [This could be Loki’s wife Sigyn’s description.]
- Old Norse kyllir (sack, scrotum), Latin coleus (testicles), via Greek [...and then Loki tied his balls to the goat.]
For transparency, I discarded modern English keel as a survival of the root of ‘Aceilon’ because its’ PIE root isn’t a verb, and modern French echelon because the sk- sounds in its linguistic roots didn’t match the sounds we need to find.
Without any cherry-picking I have found three possible Proto-Indo-European root words for ‘Aceilon’ that are verbs, with descendant words that can be used to describe Loki, and in one case a family member. Which suggests that ‘Aceilon’ may indeed be a lost name of Loki, and the UPG is worth sharing for further evaluation.
Hey mutuals who are linguists, please feel free to tear this to shreds. As I said, I am Not A Linguist, and I welcome your critiques. I’m really curious if any of these three proposed roots stand up to academic scrutiny, despite the weird circumstances around the proposed name’s emergence.
I do hope this exercise points toward ways that pagan monastics can evaluate and discuss the validity of devotees’ personal gnosis for inclusion in new theological writings.
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chthonicgodling · 5 months
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(April’s)Huevember - Day 22!
featuring: Cinthy & Krokos
[in which I’ve made my very own #Huevember wheel this year (that you can use too! Pls tag me I’d LOVE to see!) - unabridged version continues, including a wide array of Elysium’verse characters across the rainbow!]
PURPLE DAYS BEGIN!! my official ™ fave of the month is still coming up but literally all the rest of these pics from now til the End end are my faves honestly I. love every one of these. starting today with some GHOSTS 👻 - Flower Shades Hyacinthos “Cinthy” & Krokos! ok the lore info on this post got ridiculous I’m so sorry — for once I’m actually gonna stick it behind a cut to spare u all from this essay lmfao??? AUGHH
I’ve given my whole Flower Shade spiel twice prior (most recently on the 8th for Karpos & Kalamos’ pic) so I will spare you all lmao - Cinthy’s untimely demise turned him into. well. yknow. Hyacinth. (Actually, *annoying mythological facts voice* it’s larkspur but honestly that’s stupid so—) and Krokos’ own death turned him into…. crocus. duh duh. Hello. duh.
Krokos and Cinthy died, separately, in the EXACT SAME STUPID WAY, and also their personalities are SOOO polar opposites from each other so drawing them next to each other is exceptionally hilarious to me-
Krokos was dating Olympian Hermes when he died in a FREAK DISCUS ACCIDENT rip - death by frisbee🤦🏻‍♀️ and tho they’ve long since “”formally”” broken up they did part ways on good terms and consider themselves friends…………. With benefits in current days fgkgkg
and then, Cinthy!!💞💞💞💞 Cinthy is NOT as much of a background character like the other Flowers, since in current canon he’s actually engaged to Gany, with whom he’d been secretly…💞close friends💞 with during his own mortal life, back when Gany was tethered to Zeus and Cinthy himself was dating the Olympian Apollo. Cinthy’s own death via discus accident was… a little more complicated, as it came at the hands of another god and…. Maybe even more than that one god - if anyone had known about his relationship with Gany at the time….. hm. Well.
….meanwhile Elysiumverse!Apollo is an actual villain in here, like. in my list of Elysium Villains with Thanatos and OrigiMel. by the time Gany fell into the Underworld, Apollo and Cinthy had already kindave grown apart BUT Apollo’s absolute rage (and following related actions) over discovering that the Elysium palace was “keeping” Gany, and that Cinthy was choosing him over him, was the final “mask off” trigger to expose ✨his real horrible self✨ and needless to say that breakup was. uhhhhhh. rough.
BUT that was years ago and now they all live happily ever with Cinthy reunited with the ACTUAL love of his life snotty Olympians be damned
despite being a natural brunette (maybe) when he was alive Cinthy was constantly dying his hair different colors every week and when Meli & Loki turned Elysium’s shades solid (long story) years ago, he jumped right back to it; although his go to default is usually like, blurple-pink. When Krokos turned solid the first thing he did was make Cinthy dye his hair bright purple! Also fun fact Cinthy was the person who first dyed Chal’s hair red :-)
idk why tf I felt the need to do all this on this post but. jazz hands here you go. STAY TUNED TOMORROW ETC- all the hUevemebr posts are in this tag!!
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GOOD EVENING ! I don't know anything about your OCs but I am willing and eager to learn. May I get a quick introduction to them ? :D And also if they're part of a or several stories I'd love to hear about them hohoohoho
OMG OMG YESSSSS!!!!!
Basic concept: A majority of them are all based on mythology, the pantheons all co-exist and have varying degrees of interaction. The concept of fate and pre-determined destiny has a chokehold on their godly society(s), for better or for worse depending on your ranking. When apocalyptic-level anomalies that defy established destiny start happening worldwide; some dive deep into blind, destructive panic while others see it as an opportunity for their own personal, often selfish, agendas. >:))
Mythology is my special interest, okay LES GOOOO MORE DETAILED ELABOROATION HEHEHE
Main character is based on Sun WuKong... his name is Sun WuKong. He's younger than his literary counterpart and meant to be more of a young adult with murderous instincts natural curiousity about the world around him while still being incredibly knowledgable about his own background, easier for the readers to learn more about the world and story naturally through an equally curious character!
He finds himself joining a small group of gods and past heroes (near the end of his Journey) who explore the aforementioned anomalies in order to learn more about them, and hopefully recruit more members in order to come to a solution. Despite the apparently positive and earnest intention, some members seem to have their own ulterior motives that might be... less than beneficial.
WuKong is loud, impulsive, naturally curious, intelligent, and has a very extreme way of thinking regarding morality and ethics. Both good and bad.
My character based on the Six-Eared Macaque is, much like his original counterpart, meant to work as a foil for WuKong in the beginning chapters. He is WuKong's age (supernatural equivalent of 18-20 years old) and had a much more harsher, stricter upbringing in comparison. He is someone who is incredibly insecure and projects those perceived flaws of his onto others, which is what lead to him hunting down and fighting WuKong before being struck down. Doesn't help that he only knew the other monkey via rumors.
Macaque is often manipulated by older gods and finds himself being coerced into a group that exploits the anomalies and the exposed loopholes of fate and prophecy for their own, very specific agenda; Vengeance. The members of this small yet loud group felt mistreated and likewise exploited by the gods on top, and now see these events as an opportunity to strike. As time goes one the leaders of this group (Loki, Boreas, and Ate) use more extreme methods to keep their members in check, as most of them have been emotionally manipulated into joining.
These two groups clash for the entire story, but it's subtle before they directly meet in Midgard and the land(s) of the Æsir.
Some examples of these anomalies include; Ra disappearing mid-day, Fimbulwinter sweeping over Scandinavia while Baldr is alive and well, unrest in the collective underworlds and a great plague coming from the Mediterranean.
There's more info in my oc tag and lore post tag, but half of it is outdated (mainly world building + story, character related stuff is p much the same.) BUT YEAH !! That's the basis of my main oc story + my silly monkey boys with Issues(tm)
I've been working on these characters since early middle school, help.
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Now that you spoke about Loki... what about his wife Sigyn? :)
sigyn, friend of victory (asteroid 3631)
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While her parentage is rather unknown, Sigyn is the wife of the trickster god Loki. The Old Norse word “sigr” translates to something akin to victory. Sadly, due to fragmented primary sources regarding Norse mythology (thank you, Christianity, for ruining literally every culture), it is difficult to obtain solid stories of her tale outside of the tale of Loki's punishment for the death of Baldur. When Loki was tied to the boulders using Narfi's (Sigyn and Loki's son - Narfi was killed by their other son, Vali (the absolute horror of all that is just :(( this poor lady)) entrails. A snake was placed by Skadi above Loki’s head so that its venom dripped onto his face. This was agonizing for the god Loki. Sigyn, being the incredible wife that she was, sat at his side day and night catching the drips of venom so that her husband would not be in pain. Every so often she'd have to pour out the bowl and in that time, venom would touch Loki's forehead and he would scream in pain so loudly that the earth itself would tremor as if it too were in pain - eventually, Loki breaks free and Ragnarok unfolds. Sigyn is often not worshiped or praised for her devotion - it is very rarely thought that she even spoke. All this being said, IN MY OPINION, Sigyn in a chart represents a) where you may do what is expected of you without complaint, b) where and to whom you are devoted, c) where you endure the punishment for another's crimes, d) where you lose a lot but are forced to keep moving, and/or e) where you tend to feel trapped by your obligations.
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i encourage you to look into the aspects of sigyn along with the sign, degree, and house placement. for the more advanced astrologers, take a look at the persona chart of sigyn AND/OR add the other characters involved to see how they support or impede sigyn!
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Norse Retellings - Sigyn and Angrboda
A/N: This post has been sitting in my drafts for almost a year, but my opinions are the same. At some later date I might reread The Witch’s Heart to reassess.
I’m jotting down some thoughts I’ve mulled over after finishing Cat Rector’s The Goddess of Nothing at All. It’s a retelling of the Norse myths through Sigyn’s perspective, making tweaks here and there to the stories on the grounds that some details were altered in the later accounts to make her husband Loki more of a villain and herself more of a clueless or complicit bystander. 
Reading this book naturally reminded me of Genevieve Gorchec’s The Witch’s Heart. It does something similar but with Angrboda, Loki’s other wife or mistress, depending on how you interpret their relationship. In that book, she’s definitely Loki’s wife. Both books choose to make a wife/lover of Loki into the protagonist, and I’m not sure which version I like better. They each have their pros and cons, but my biggest problem is how similar these characters are despite being from different races and different parts of the Norse myth narrative.
Both of these leads deal with three major issues or arcs: 
self-discovery or actualization
being in a relationship with Loki 
protecting their children
You can see how sharing not one but three of these can make them seem so alike. There are, fortunately, finer details that distinguish them a bit. 
To start, they initially have different motives. Sigyn in GoNAA wants a title to make her a “real” goddess, but Odin has denied it to her for flimsy reasons. She’s so desperate to win his favor and feel empowered that she recruits Loki as her teacher in seidr in exchange for getting him out of exile from Asgard. Angrboda in TWH escapes the Aesir after being “executed” by them to live a peaceful, solitary life. This is complicated by her amnesia, which leaves her uncertain of her own identity. I think Sigyn’s motive makes her more proactive than Angrboda in the beginning. 
However, Sigyn’s drive for a title falls by the wayside as she gets wrapped up in Loki’s sheningans and, later, the trials of raising a family. I suppose it offers commentary on how, no matter how much Sigyn wants recognition for herself, her story is more about Loki and her children. The ending promises a bit more for her, so there’s that. 
For Angrboda, she isn’t as proactive until later in the story, and it’s still only tangentially related to discovering her identity. Like Sigyn, her arc gets swallowed up by Loki and her children. But Angrboda’s real disadvantage is that she has little involvement in the other Norse myths apart from the ones about her children being taken by the gods and her giving Odin information about Ragnarök. This means she hears more about things than participates in or even witnesses. Sigyn has more to do, so more of the myths directly impact her. Rector also tweaks the story about Angrboda and her children (Hel, Fenrir, Jormungandr) to let Sigyn be more involved, which Gorchec does not do in TWH. 
Rector has more success with Sigyn as a protagonist because she’s willing to play around with details from the myths and cast it as the “true” story (or at least Sigyn’s version of things) so that Sigyn can have a greater presence. Gorchec keeps more closely to the original myths, apart from making Angrboda also be Gullveig, Heid, and Hyrrokkin. As with Rector’s Sigyn, these changes allow Angrboda to participate in a few more incidents in Norse myth. I wish she had been willing to take it even further, especially when revealing Angrboda’s backstory beyond the hints we get. Whereas Sigyn’s concern for her family ultimately overshadows her personal ambitions, which in itself can make sense as a character arc, Angrboda’s search for her true identity never disappears but also doesn’t gel with her concern for her family. These two desires keep interrupting each other for attention in the narrative. 
All that said, Sigyn and Angrboda in their respective retellings are portrayed as, for lack of better words, the “better” partner to Loki. Angrboda in GoNAA is little more than a witch with a vendetta against the Aesir; that’s the only reason she partners with and has children with Loki. This actually makes her more interesting in my opinion. She does care about her children, but she sees them as tools for revenge, too. Sigyn, by contrast, becomes a more nurturing mother to Fenrir, Hel, and Jormungandr (and Sleipnir) despite not being biologically related (and feeling betrayed by Loki). 
Sigyn in TWH ... well, we don’t have much to say about her except what the original myths suggest. She’s Loki’s faithful wife, but she’s understandably appalled by his relationship with Angrboda. She seems naïve and lashes out at Angrboda for being Loki’s “mistress” with monstrous children. While Angrboda never meets Sigyn’s sons, she too takes care of Sleipnir for a time. 
In short, Rector and Gorchec are not interested in making the “other woman” more likable than, or even as likable as their heroine. It makes sense, but this contributes to the “sameness” these retellings share. Sigyn and Angrboda are both well-meaning women who fall in love with Loki, love their children, are betrayed by Loki, fall out of love with him, then come to forgive him by the story’s end. They and the “other women” start out disliking each other but develop begrudging empathy. 
I think, in the end, while the protagonists could stand to be more uniquely developed beyond familiar “heroine of myth retelling” tropes, Rector is more successful at lending texture to her rendition of Asgard and the other worlds, which definitely doesn’t stick with Viking-Age technology or atmosphere. I rather wish Gorchec had allowed Angborda to interact with more characters, even if they had to be original. I like her portrayals of Skadi and Gerd, but we could have seen more of the giants to better understand their culture and how the perceptions of the Aesir could have been skewed. I prefer the more faithful “ancient” vibe of The Witch’s Heart over the anachronistic world of The Goddess of Nothing At All, but it needed more concrete depth and dimension, not just teasings. Same goes for Angrboda herself. Our leading ladies can be more complicated.
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galaxythreads · 2 years
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Uhm... hi! Lore for Stygian? It's like one of my top favorite fics and I have it downloaded on my kindle to read offline, I love it sm!
I’m glad you love it so much. :) 
I was working on this for two+ hours and then my internet crashed and deleted everything. Which. :/ Good and terrible. I do not want to restart. I’m exhausted. I need to sleep. Terrible because I worked so hard on it. 
Good because. Well. 
Moment of honesty here. As I was going through lore for this, I came to the realization that the reason I hate Stygian so much has less to do with the writing style and more with how deeply, deeply traumatizing this section of my life was when I was writing it. Reading over the chapters was actually greatly distressing. Love the story’s concept. Hate the story itself because of what was going on at the time. 
I have severe c-pstd. This story has unfortunately turned into a massive trigger and I had no idea until now. Reading through some of the thoughts or the scenes was really, really hard. I was skipping entire sections of the story in the lore collection TM to avoid this. I’m fine with discussing the story as a whole, but the moment we start to dissect this and read specific lines is when I start to fall apart emotionally. 
As for what this means for Death Must be Lonely Like I Am, fingers crossed it’s different enough to not trigger me as badly as this did. 
I apologize that I can’t give as much lore for this fic as I could the others. 
Here’s as much as I can think of in a bullet-pointed list in ten minutes and then I’m going to go to bed. 
The entire story was planned in a notebook by hand with colored pens 
There was no reason for Steve to be in the basement with Tony in chapter 3(?), tony just pulled him down there to get him out of guard duty
I did not know how to drive when I wrote the car chase
I researched washing machines for like an hour before writing the scene where Laura was asking advice from Clint 
I fully embraced the tropes of hte time because they were fun and I wanted to work with them
English being the common-tongue on Asgard is the shittest thing I’ve ever read my past self doing. 
i had a thing against all-speak when I wrote this
I want to formally apologize to Deaf people for how I portrayed Clint as a deaf person
Loki and Tony were always going to bond over the Void
Everyone had a meticulous character arc that I planned out with SO MUCH FREAKING DETAIL
The first chapter is not the actual first chapter, it’s an edited version from a year later
I did not originally intend for them to ever go back to Clint’s mental health hospital, it was a happy accident
Alexander Pierce was supposed to visit the Raft with them in chapter 1
the reason the Avengers get kidnapped and shipped in a van across the country is because I watched The Gifted 
The grand reveal of Loki’s scars was - no joke - originally going to happen because Clint would dump boiling water on Loki
I found the Avengers chilling in the kitchen to be very comforting 
I wrot ethe scene where Lila and Cooper find Steve and co by hand at first
I think I originally misspelled Lila’s name as Lilia, and if not in this fic it was another one
i was still using cats as a curse word, WHY is a story for another time and related to me getting bullied/harassed off of my first ff.net account
my memories of this are fuzzy, but i THINK that I uploaded a majority of Stygian all at once. Like chapters 1-10 were posted in a day. Or that was Append? I have no idea honestly. One of hte two. 
I had already started Stygian when I got my a03 account though
Yes, loki has his sight back at the end of the story
God the actual deity is in this
Lila’s cat obsession was based off of my younger sister
I wrote the chapter where they wake up on the Barton farm while co-watching a sherlock holmes tv series (not Elementary or BBC Sherlock. An older version I can’t remember the name of right now) 
The Avengers hunting each other through the Tower was inspired by not one but TWO separate fics where this happened 
No one visited Loki while he was in the cell. That’s why he still had the muzzle on. Everyone was too afraid of him to approach the cell
Bucky being there was one of the base ideas for this. He was always going to be in the fic. He has a bigger role in DMBLLIA. 
The narrative parallel of the Avengers saving Loki from the Raft and Loki saving them from HYDRA was built into the plan 
someone yelled at me recently (in comment form) about how Bruce not feeling guilty about hurting Loki in chapter 8 was proof he was a psychopath even though the conversation was about not taking guilt for things that aren’t your fault. this was kinda funny. 
I might add to this tomorrow, but who knows. I am going to bed. 
asks about any of the bullet points if you want more information should tentatively be okay? if they’re not I’ll let you know. 
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talia-rumlow · 2 years
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My Works (Will be updated as I go)
First of all. Thank you so much for your likes, your comments and your support. I really appreciate it.
My writing is 18+, smut, and all that follows with it. Some stories are worse than others. Read on own risk. Warnings will be posted.
I usually write Marvel related stuff. But I can take requests for other things as well. Favorites are: The Night Manager, Supernatural, Criminal Minds, Bones, Buffy/Angel, 911, Chigaco Fire/PD/Med, Kingdom (I am currently in the process of watching the entire show), Wheelman.
Although I decided to take a step back from RPF, I could maybe take request for that too. But probably only One Shots. Send me a PM if you want me to write something for you.
I also post my stuff on Wattpad, AO3, My personal blog, TikTok and My Saviour is also ongoing on Instagram as a video story. (If you want to keep the thrill, and read the stories as I post them on here. I would recommend, NOT to visit my Blog, AO3 or Wattpad)
ON HOLD! (Given the recent news about Chris Hemsworth!)
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Yes! You are seeing correctly. I´m actually writing a Loki fic. And this is an epic one!
Given your place in Asgard, a secret relationship with the God of Mischief isn't exactly a good Idea. But you can't stop. It's an obsession, a sickness. You can't get enough of him! And Loki can't get enough of you!
This story will go back and forth in time.
Chapter One - Twisted Reality
Chapter Two - Queen Of Asgard
Chapter Three - Loki & Thor
COMPLETED STORIES
Private Workout (Alvey Kulina One-Shot)
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Another story based on one of Frank Grillos roles. The 2017 NETFLIX movie Wheelman. I love that movie.
After a real heavy night out with the girls, you decide to sleep it off in your car. But when a bankrobbery goes South, and the Getaway driver "borrows" your car, the night takes a whole new turn. While you´re being chased around the city by his enemies, you start to see the thrill of the criminal side of things. But things aren´t always as black and white as you or he thinks.
Chapter One - Wheelman
Chapter Two - Heating Things Up
Chapter Three - This Is Going To Hurt
Chapter Four - Do You Always Fuck The Girls You Kidnap?
Chapter Five - I Told You To Run, YN!
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After tips from @nekoannie-chan I have decided to start to post my other stories on here as well.
My schedule:
MONDAY: My Saviour
TUESDAY: My Brother´s Best Friend
WEDNEDSDAY: Bound & Brockened
THURSDAY: Best Friends Forever
FRIDAY: Escort To The Multiverse
SATURDAY: Forbidden Fruit
SUNDAY: Strangers With Memories (Original Story)
You can read about the stories further down in this post!
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My Saviour is a Rumlow X Reader story. This story will contain Graphic Sexual Description, Graphic Description of Violence, Death, Murder, angst, trauma, Domestic Abuse and Past Abuse. Read on own risk. This is a story where I portray Brock Rumlow as a decent human being. He also has a backstory. If you don´t like Brock Rumlow yet. You will, after reading this story.
DISCLAIMER: I do not own any of the Marvel characters, only my original ones.
Chapter One - We Don´t Treat Women Like That!
Chapter Two - Can I Tell You A Little Secret?
Chapter Three - What Someone Like Me, Does To Little Brats Like You
Chapter Four - Who Is In Charge?
Chapter Five - Good Girls Gets Rewarded
Chapter Six - The Morning After
Chapter Seven - First Day At Work
Chapter Eight - I Want To Protect You
Chapter Nine - That´s Right, You Disobeyed Me!
Chapter Ten - Pick One!
Chapter Eleven - Mine! Say It!
Chapter Twelve - I´ll Find Him!
Chapter Thirteen - Want To Play A Game?
Chapter Fourteen - Pull Over!
Chapter Fifteen - What Do You Want Me To Do?
Chapter Sixteen - Want Me To Look For It?
Chapter Seventeen - Did You Lock The Door?
Chapter Eighteen - That Girl You Like So Much!
Chapter Nineteen - It´s A Date!
Chapter Twenty - When You Call Me Brock
Chapter Twentyone - See What You Get When You Ask Nicely
Chapter Twentytwo - Come For Me, Brock!
Chapter Twentythree - Please Don´t Leave Me!
Chapter Twentyfour - I Fucking Love You!
Chapter Twentyfive - Are You Alright?
Chapter Twentysix - You Disobeyed Me, Brock!
Chapter Twentyseven - Will It Be Dangerous, This Mission?
Chapter Twentyeight - Have You Ever Used A Gun Before, YN?
Chapter Twentynine - SHIELD Is The Safest Place To Be!
Chapter Thirty - Alexander Pierce
Chapter Thirtyone - Why Is This Happening To You?
Chapter Thirtytwo - How Did You End Up Here?
Chapter Thirtythree - This One Is Not!
Chapter Thirtyfour - Please Don´t Be Mad At Me!
Chapter Thirtyfive - Who Said Anything About Winning?
Chapter Thirtysix - I Love You, YN!
Chapter Thirtyseven - Good Agents Don´t Disobey Orders, YN!
Chapter Thirtyeight - You Are Fired Though!
Chapter Thirtynine - What´s Wrong With You, Brock?
Chapter Fourty - Well Played, YN! You´re Still Dead Though!
Chapter Fourtyone - What Did You Do To deserve This Treatment?
Chapter Fourtytwo - She´s Messing With Your Mind, Brock! Be Careful!
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Yet another Rumlow as a decent human being story. Yes! I LOVE doing these. Give Rumlow some love.
After years not speaking to your brother, Jack Rollins. He invites you to spend the summer with him, in New York. When your flight gets cancelled, Jack tells you, that you can hitch a ride, with his best friend, driving home from a mission. Great, you've met Brock Rumlow one time before, and you hate his face. Cocky, self-righteous, arrogant bastard. Not your type at all. You're not looking forward to drive across the country with him. Will you survive this trip with him, or will past experiences make it impossible to get to your destination? Secrets will come out, the past will catch up with both you and Rumlow. This story will be kinda a slow burn, with sexual content, and a lot of humor.
Chapter One - What, Brock? He´s A Good Guy!
Chapter Two - The Stupid Obnoxious One!
Chapter Three - You´re Reading Porn!
Chapter Four - You´ll Never Understand Him!
Chapter Five - What Did You Dream About?
Chapter Six - Like What You See?
Chapter Seven - Arrg.. Piss off, Brock!!
Chapter Eight - What do you want me to say, Brock?
Chapter Nine - Get your fucking hands off!
Chapter Ten - Truth Or Dare
Chapter Eleven - His Best Friend´s Little Sister!
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This story is the fastest growing story I´ve EVER posted. I absolutely LOVE to write this story. And I hope you´ll enjoy reading it as well. Just remember the warnings. Read with care!
Brock Rumlow, a ruthless badass, with a fucked up dominant side! After a mission goes terribly wrong, he gets fired from his job. After picking up girls in bars for a while, he gets that he needs more. No more of these fucked up, girls that leaves the next morning. He needs something stable. Someone he can use, day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year. Someone he can get out his frustration on.
So he decides to buy you, at an auction!
You had no money, no place to live, nothing left. That's the only reason you decided to give yourself away. To use the only thing you had, to maybe get some food and a roof over your head. You had no idea what you were walking into!
DARK STORY!! ⚠️⚠️
Containing graphic descriptions of non-con elements, bdsm, different forms of torture, graphic sexual descriptions.
⚠️READ ON OWN RISK⚠️
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Chapter One - Hades
Chapter Two - Owned!
Chapter Three - Choices!
Chapter Four - Play!
Chapter Five - Rules!
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Steve and Bucky have been best friends since the 30's. Steve married you and Bucky married Nat weeks apart, and you've been best friends and double dated for years. What will happen when Nat leaves Bucky, and Bucky moves in with you and Steve? Will the friendship between the four of you last. And more importantly, will your marriage to Steve last when his amazingly handsome best friend moves in.
Chapter One - Divorce?!
Chapter Two - Nightmares!
Chapter Three - Breakfast!
Chapter Four - James.
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One of my absolute favorite stories to write. This one made me tap into the darkest places of my mind. This will be a dark story. Containing graphic sexual description, Non-Con, BDSM, rough treatment, strong language, and everything else in that area. Rating X 18+! Read on own risk!
You were new to the city of New York. Your job didn't pay enough money to make rent, so you decided to start to work at a gentlemans club. Then a friend offers you a job at an escort service. To make ends meet, you says yes! One day you are sent on a mission to the SHIELD building, to take care of two agents, returning from a mission. Will it be too much for you to handle? Or will this be just what you need to get the new start you so desperately needs?
Characters includes: Tony Stark, Captain America & The Winter Soldier!
Chapter One - Jack Rollins & Brock Rumlow
Chapter Two - Can You Fuck Her Or Not?!
Chapter Three - I Think She Likes It!
Chapter Four - Shut Her Up!
Chapter Five - She´ll Fucking Listen Now!
Chapter Six - Listen Don´t Fucking Talk
Chapter Seven - She Enjoys The Fucking Pain
Chapter Eight - How Does She Taste?
Chapter Nine - Some Sort Of Super Human!
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I´ve always been a fan of the Night Manager, so of course I had to make a fic about Jonathan Pine. This will contain a lot of feelings, past trauma, abuse, murder, Non-Con elements and sexual description.
You met Jonathan Pine 5 years ago in Cairo. One steamy night was all you had time for, before Richard Roper got hold of you. Now you've been his prisoner for 5 years. When some unforeseen events led to you and Jonathan Pine to meet again. Only this time Mr. Roper calls the shot. Your job is to Seduce Jonathan Pine, and make him talk. Make him reveal his secrets before he can put a stop to Ropers plan. Your only way out of Ropers control is to finish the job. Will you reveal his secrets? Or will he reveal yours first?
Chapter One - Cairo 5 Years Ago
Chapter Two - No Way Out!
Chapter Three - A Part Of Life
Chapter Four - Daniel!
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This story means the world to me. And it´s heartbreaking, sweet and though. It´s about events from my own life, so I´m really putting myself out there with this one. It was the events in this story that got me into writing in the first place. If it wasn´t for what happened, I wouldn´t have been where I am today. So although I got my heart ripped out of my chest and stamped on. It was worth it.
What if you find love, with the most unexpected person? What if he gave you everything you missed? Only to leave you confused! What if that heartbreak gave you the chance to do everything you ever wanted. Would you risk it all? One more time...
Chapter One - Christopher He´s Good!
Chapter Two - Redecorate The Bathroom
Chapter Three - The First Date
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And if you got as far as to this part.. THANK YOU for reading. And I hope you´ll read my stories, once I post them.
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Hi again! This is the anon that wanted to know about Loki!
Thank you for the links! I’ll def look into them! And if you could, I would LOVE if you could transcribe the Loki piece from “Queer Magic” that you mentioned. Money is a little tight on my end right now, so I would like to see if the book is something I really want to spend money on right now, ya know? This way, I can learn about Loki and get a glimpse into the book to see if it’s worth it to me. But that’s only if you have the time and energy to do so!
Also, you mentioned that you “draw a distinction between honoring, worshiping, working, and devoting.” May I ask what the differences are to you? Is it like: honoring is just a general kind of nod to them, worshipping is specifically choosing to look to them and offer tributes and such, working is like asking them to help with spells and things, and devoting is like worshipping only more serious and more pointed? Or am I completely off? 😅
Hey anon! So I'll approach this in chunks with headers to make it easier to tackle your questions!
Queer Magic by Tomas Prower
Content warning: mention of self-castration in paragraph 3
Of all the Norse gods, Loki is perhaps the one most recognized for possessing queer traits. In the legends he is often described as a mercurial and shape-shifting trickster deity and an agent of chaos. The first telling thing about him is his full name, Loki Laufeyjarson, which is unique since it shows that he was named after his mother, as opposed to the macho Viking tradition of children being named after their fathers.
His appearance is described as very beautiful, but he is often found metamorphosing himself into various animals and, on three occasions, a woman. One specific story tells of how Loki turned himself into a mare and allowed himself to become impregnated by the stallion Svadilfari, eventually giving birth to Odin's horse Sleipnir. He is also said to have gotten pregnant via eating the half-cooked heart of a woman and given birth to the demons that plague mankind.
In many other tales, Loki goes beyond showing his usual indifference for gender roles and reveals his disregard for his own gender identity. One of the more popular examples of this tells of how, in an effort to make the giantess Skadi laugh, Loki tied his genitals to a goat's beard and proceeded to castrate himself. In machismo Viking culture where a man's penis was his symbol of power, Loki's attempt to physically emasculate himself for a laugh perfectly sums up his attitude toward sex and gender.
In worship, Loki's correspondences are snakes, elder and beech trees, lead, jet, peppery incense, the color black, and partaking in transgressive jokes.
Other examples of Tomas Prower's writings can be found in this post on Hel from Morbid Magic and this post on Odin from Queer Magic.
Honor, Worship, Work, and Devotion
Please know that this is how I define these terms as they relate to my practice. Your mileage, as usual, may vary depending on your own religious practice.
To me, honoring is to pay respect, to allow them a place in your religious practice, but not to actively lay offerings. I respect and love Loki and their family, but I don't usually ping them for magical workings (except for a binding I did recently) or divination. I also honor Aine at this time, but I see honoring as, like, the low bar for my own practice, the space some deities may sit in while we get used to each other.
To me, worshiping is, well, laying offering, saying prayers, thanking them for their presence, stuff like that. It often blends into work, but not always. I'd say that I worship Cernunnos and Aphrodite more than I work with them, but it depends on the time.
To me, working is more active and two-way than worship, where you're laying offerings, but you're also communicating with them and sometimes asking for their help in magic. I'd say I actively work with Azura and Tehuti.
And finally, devotion. To me, this is the most serious version of interacting with a deity. I'm devoted only to Athena, so she has the largest altar, the first dibs on anything, and she's usually the first one I turn to. I accidentally devoted to her when I was young, but I have to say that that's one of the best things that Baby Jasper went and did. She's been my biggest supporter as I've been playing the "fuck around and find out" game in both the magical and mundane parts of my life.
Other people may see it differently, and that's alright! My beliefs most certainly aren't universal. After all, how boring would it be if they were?
I hope this answered your question, anon!
~Jasper
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Books I think characters would like
Note :this is a work in progress. This is just for fun. Maybe just view this as book recommendations ok. Also I am only putting books I have read on this list. And feel free to add books as well. I love a good book recommendation.
(also let me know if the links work. this is my first time trying this.)
Loki:
East of Eden- A book about brothers and choosing your fate, rather than accepting what people say about you. Also fantastic writing and some of the best descriptions of California I have ever experienced.
Arabian Love Poems- listen, Loki loves poetry. No one does love poetry better than Nizar Kabbani.
On Earth We're Briefly Gorgeous- The chokehold Ocean Vuong has on the English language. Even if the story of a gay immigrant child writing to his mother in a language she cannot read doesn't appeal to Loki (which I think it would), the lyricism of this book would be appealing enough.
My Sister, the Serial Killer- Dark Comedy, I think it would be a light read for Loki, but the story would entertain him for sure.
Wuthering Heights- a) the writing is great. b) the line between love and hate is thin. its the passion that drives them. c) ghosts
The Count of Monte Cristo- Revenge with a flair of dramatics. Totally Loki's style.
Steve:
Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland- This book covers complexities in war and also doing what you think is right even if others get hurt, in such an empathetic way. Like the author is clear bad things happen, but explains what drives people to do them and also why it isn't black/white. Also isn't Steve an Irish immigrant or something of that nature. anyway this is the rec that made me want to make this post.
Know my name- I think Steve is really into memoirs and this is one of the best ones I have ever read. Also he would totally be a feminist who fights rapists.
The Picture of Dorian Gray- Irish literature because Steve can now afford to read all the books he wants.
The Outsiders- boys fighting for friends.
Bucky:
The Martian- Bucky is a scifi dude and you can't tell me otherwise. This features isolation, being left behind, and yet your friends choosing to risk it all to save you. Which is basically the modern story of Steve and Bucky, so yea. oh and the sarcasm in this book is through the roof.
Mind of my mind- Scifi and mind control. That's the logic.
The Black God's Drums- this is a novella that has set the standard for all novellas. The story, characters, and world are all so vivid, despite how short the story is. It has the classic, underdog saves the day and I see this being a pick me up for Bucky.
Frankenstein: The story of a monster being created, the creator not taking care/responsibility, and then the monster coming after the creator. I think Bucky would relate to the monster honestly.
Astrophysics for People in a hurry- science yet digestible. This book would totally live on his nightstand.
Bonus:
Set Boundaries, Find Peace- the book I recommend to everyone, bust especially those who need to work on mental health and let's be honest nearly every marvel character needs therapy.
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