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#Cry For Justice
splooosh · 10 months
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“some people”
Mario Cascioli
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judedeluca · 9 months
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When you think about it, Roy would've never lost his arm thanks to Prometheus if not for Prometheus manipulating Green Arrow and Green Lantern to have their group reconvene with the Justice League when it seemed they were being outwitted by the villains, thus getting into the Hall disguised as Freddy Freeman.
And Ollie and Hal would've never been in that position if they hadn't been on their ego trip to form a more "proactive" team in the first place.
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What's your top 5 most favorite DC comics and your top 5 most hated ones?
(Cracks Fingers)
Top 5 Favorites
1. New Teen Titans: The Judas Contract
2. Nightwing New Order
3. All Star Superman
4. Superman: Last Son
5. Batman and New Teen Titans: A Lonely Place of Dying
Top 5 Hated
1. All Star Batman and Robin
2. Justice League Cry for Justice
3. Nightwing Annual #2 (2006)
4. New (Teen) Titans #100
5. New 52: Futures End
@spider-jaysart
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plasticmantalk · 2 years
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Cry For Justice is not a very good book but I want to give the artists credit because it is the ABSOLUTE BEST PLASTIC MAN EVER LOOKED LOOK AT HIM HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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the-overanalyzer · 2 years
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Hal: *Driven by tremendous grief to use immense cosmic power to try and reshape the universe to his own liking*
Barry: *Driven by tremendous grief to use the Speed Force to change history to his own liking*
Ollie: *Driven by tremendous grief to shoot a single pointy stick at the single motherfucker responsible*
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nitpickrider · 1 year
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Fuck. You. Hal. No. Seriously, I have no sympathy for you, your position or anyone who thinks this argument has a single leg to stand on. They saved the future, they stopped Professor Ivo and Solomon Grundy, they stopped Amazo, The Injustice League, Queen Bee, Anansi and yes stopped the government from trampling all over the villains' civil rights by shipping them off to a prison planet in the god knows where galaxy. What is your PLAN? "Proactive justice". What does that mean? Going out and stopping people who aren't committing crimes? You and what fucking authority, GL? The Justice League are a response team, going out and saving lives when things are at their darkest. Your plan is to go out and find trouble because it makes your balls feel big. You stood by each other when trouble popped up, saved the day, saved the world and got home in time to do it again when the world needed you. In short? You acted like fucking superheroes.
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evilguacamole · 2 years
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Thoughts on Roy Harper
Not sure if anyone will read this or what not but I kinda wanted to get my thoughts in text somewhere. So, me and my wife have been watching all of the old @atopfourthwall episodes and have been having a good time discussing the comics brought up as we watch. We’ve neither one read a ton of comics but we’ve consumed a ton of the media it made (like the cartoon series of the 90s and such) and so seeing the bad (and sometimes the good) of comics really is very interesting. We actually bought a bit of comics recently because of it. Anyway, that’s not what I’m here to talk about. The thing of interest is our response to The Rise of Arsenal. We both were very on board about Linkara’s take down of “Cry For Justice” as being very poorly written, nonsensical from a philosophical point and disgustingly cruel with killing Lian Harper. Upon checking just now it seems Lian actually has come back? I think it’s something to do with one of the DC world reboots which always confuse me. Regardless, the idea of her ‘getting better’ from being dead seemed unrealistic and the whole thing was pretty gross. Rise of Arsenal was much more interesting. Linkara was pretty upset, with good reason, about how Roy because a complete asshole. But I actually think that was one of the best parts of the series. As someone who’s let grief become ugly and toxic and harmful... I could relate. I get frustrated with how grief is depicted as just being sad or a struggle as a person attempts to bottle it up and pretend to be okay. Which of course can happen. But it can make you cruel, it can make you unable to empathize with those around you, it can make you slink away, pushing everyone away from you. In the comic Roy becomes unlikable and I say that is good. This set up an amazing place where he could have had to struggle to rebuild what he destroyed. They never did this which is really the biggest failure here. Once he was cruel to other people who lost their children it should have gone one of two ways: he had a long road of to repent for this or this was a set up for him to full on be a villain. They did neither and that was the failure of the series more than anything. And no, anti-hero doesn’t count here; killing out of revenge isn’t an anti-hero action really. Anti-heroes kill because they think it’s justice, they’ve lost the ability to care about life that much, they just find it easier or it’s just a job to them. They lack emotional stakes in death. Think Punisher; Frank thinks he’s some sort of justice machine. Even when killing those responsible for his family’s death he does so because he doesn’t believe the system will punish them. I’m not the biggest expert but I don’t believe the Punisher would have ever killed his family’s killers if they were in prison for life. Revenge is the act of a villain; particularly fatal revenge. It leaves a person empty and with nothing left; just look at Frank, the only thing left for him was to justify his actions by applying it when it wasn’t him as who was harmed. So he goes punishing others. If they wanted an anti-hero they should have set up Roy killing the Electrocutioner as ambiguously moral. Maybe he was escaping. Maybe the evidence was lacking. Maybe he was making plea deals and wouldn’t get much punishment. SOMETHING. Personally, I think the anti-hero and villain routes are dumb. Harper is a person who is characterized by fighting to fix things about him that are harmful, be it his relationship with Jade or his addiction issues. Him fixing the harm he caused by his grief would have been an amazing story. With all this I am a parent too. Me and my wife were both like, would we kill someone who killed our child? Maybe... but likely because it would be hard to see beyond doing that. And Roy even kind of indicates this. But he gets his shallow revenge on a person already in prison. Logically, the only thing left for him is to OD on heroine. But we’re expected to believe he’s like ‘ah, did that, time to go fight some more crime’? Nonsense. I will say I particularly liked (or could have liked if they stuck the landing) his lashing out at the other parents who tried to comfort him. Particularly if you read him as misdirecting the hate he had for himself at that moment. He isn’t capable of admitting what he really feels: that he is the reason Lian died. When he says to Donna that Robbie died because she was a bad mother he is doing so because he feels that Lian died because he was a bad father but can’t admit it. This is him being a piece of shit because he can’t admit he hates himself. And until he admits that he can’t come to terms that no, he shouldn’t hate himself because it’s not his fault Lian died. Of course... this is only a good thing to include if he eventually has to fix this, that he has to deal with this harm he did. But he doesn’t. But I like the psychology of Roy in all this. It is often very good. The ‘hallucinations’ are all just him as well, just given visual so he can justify his bad actions. There is no old dealer, it’s just Roy’s addiction manifesting. It was never Lian that told him to get revenge and he always knew it. It was always him. As an aside, we found the sexual encounter and failure to be interesting but the end messed up. In a way, Cheshire is right, the stress of everything could have messed up his ability to perform. But here’s what doesn’t make sense. If there is one word to describe the many feelings Jade has for Roy it is passionate. She doesn’t have mild feelings about the man. At times she hates him, at times she loves him, at times she desires him, at times she wants to break him. She isn’t capable of being casual or indifferent. Yet when she talks about his performance failure she’s like ‘yeah, makes sense, no biggie’. She doesn’t do no biggie with him, though. There are two far better reactions. First, she makes a big deal out of it, trying to humiliate him about it. This... sucks. She doesn’t seem cruel enough to do this nor does she strike me as someone who would enjoy this... however, it makes more sense than her hohum response because she at least is passionate. I think more fitting and better for the story is if she was like ‘I don’t give a shit. I didn’t come to you because I needed to be railed, I came because it hurts and I need you at this moment.’ Now, Roy might not buy it; his ego too bruised or just in such a bad place he doesn’t trust her or what not- I mean, that’s how this would have to go if we aren’t getting our resolution here, but it also makes sense. I can see him saying that he doesn’t buy it, that he’s broken, etc. etc.. And I can see her being PISSED. Saying that his dick could have been cut off instead of his arm and she’d still have come there and she’s insulted that he thinks all she wanted was any pole in a storm. He storms off and so does she. Plot wise this accomplishes the same thing- he feels broken and has pushed away someone who he should be embracing in the moment over something petty. But this gives so much more agency to Jade and is so much more in character. The best end of ROA would have been him nearly killing but giving up in the final moment, doing so in response to Oliver admitting how Roy was right: he wasn’t there properly. He took him in as his ward and he got addicted to drugs. He has been distant. But it doesn’t change that Roy should not give up on his humanity. If he kills this helpless man he’s lost everything. Roy is capable of so much still, like protecting the children who can’t be protected or just living life- either a noble goal that Lian would unquestionably want for him and both of which hampered by turning to murder. But we didn’t get that end and, for that, all this cool stuff, good stuff in here turns foul.
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moxie-girl · 3 months
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im so normal abt sibling relationships in media i swear
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On Saturday I hung out with my 84-year-old ecologist great uncle and he stopped in mid-conversation (abt the return of the whooping crane) and very seriously told me that "you can go one of two ways, as a naturalist"; either you keep sight of the hopeful possibilities, or you don't. I'm one of nature's wretched little pessimists but when an old ecologist literally holds your hands in his and tells you, "don't despair," you have to try, I feel.
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sasswonfp · 1 year
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This joke came to me in a fit of laughter (ALT description provided :3!)
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chiicakee · 3 months
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dawwwgggg look at my lawyerrrrr
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catnip-dad · 3 months
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...and by popular demand, the 4th-wall break... in high quality, with faces!
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fernsnailz · 1 year
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i don't know how to describe how much i love sonic battle's endings with words so i made a comic about it
epilogue:
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u3pxx · 1 year
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a collection of aa sprite redraw requests from the bird app :^]c
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doodlebug-aboo · 5 months
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“I would really, really love to have you as a big sister.”
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taxkha · 3 months
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Happy valentines day __ Prints
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