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Salem starts coming onto Jaune, there has never been a more terrifying takedown in her immortal life.
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anthurak · 2 days
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So I thought I’d do a writeup on my current theory(s) about what state Summer might be in. Shoutout to @mikey-polo420 and @tumblingxelian for the ask and discussion that got me working on this one.
Simply put, after everything we’re seen over the last three volumes, we can now safely assume that Summer is NOT in fact dead, and is actually being held captive or is under the control or even employ of Salem, as well as being some kind of Grimm Hybrid. Specifically, that she is the ‘Patient Zero’ of Salem’s Grimm Hybrid project. As Ruby deduced after seeing what the Hound truly was; “When she met mom, she learned she could do something new…”
So what could this all actually mean? Is Summer stuffed in a stasis tube somewhere, or is she operating as one of Salem’s agents? And in case of the latter, is she simply being puppetted like the Hound was, brainwashed, or even serving Salem willingly as some people have started suggesting? What is even the state of Summer’s hybridization compared to what we’ve seen with the Hound or Cinder's own hybridizing?
Well for one, if Summer IS operating in the field as one of Salem’s agents, then I imagine our best bet is that she’s been overseeing the search for the Crown of Choice at the ruins of Beacon. As some have already posited, Summer could have been the one Salem was talking to in Volume 4 about searching for the vault under Beacon.
As to what state Summer herself might be in and the nature of her hybridization, my theory is that Summer is essentially a ‘Perfected Hybrid’. Rather than the desiccated corpse shoved into a grimm-suit that the Hound/TR was or the incomplete jumble of implants and prosthetics that we see in Cinder, I imagine that Summer at first glance is going to be the mythical ‘Humanoid Grimm’ that many people have been theorizing we might see sooner or later. As in, minimal animalist features and covered in a full-body ‘suit’ of grimm-material that looks just as much like armor or an exosuit as standard grimm ‘hide’.
Basically, think Darth Vader by way of grimm-hybridization. Complete with face-obscuring helmet that can be removed or knocked off for a big dramatic reveal.* As to what Summer might actually look like under all the hybrid armor? Well, I have a hunch she’ll look all too similar to Salem herself.
Because I have a feeling that the way Salem ‘learned that she could do something new…’ was when Summer fell or was thrown into one of the Darkness Pools. As in, precisely what happened to Salem HERSELF. Perhaps it was by accident while fighting Salem, or perhaps Salem was feeling dramatic and wanted to execute a defeated Summer in some poetic fashion.
However it happened, even Salem was surprised when Summer DIDN’T die and instead crawled out of the pool just like she did all those eons ago. Thus, a now EXTREMELY curious Salem subdued Summer and began the experiments.
THIS is what I imagine to be the start and goal of Salem’s Grimm Hybrid Program and what she’s been working on these past near-twenty years: Trying to research and replicate what happened to Summer.
The thing is, while Summer is effectively a perfect hybrid that Salem has been able to outfit with all kinds of grimm components, for whatever reason Salem just hasn’t been able to replicate what happened to Summer with other Silver Eyed Warriors that she’s captured. Hence where the other hybrids like the Hound/TR and even Cinder come in.
They’re all developments, extrapolations or off-shoots of Salem’s experimentations with Grimm Hybridization that all started with Summer. The Hound is essentially a very rough ‘beta-test’, ‘experiment’ as Salem calls it. Possibly the first hybrid she’s managed to get into a functional state.** Meanwhile Cinder likely in part represents Salem experimenting with more gradual hybridization as well as seeing how well the hybrids work as vessels for the Maiden Powers. As in, I would not be surprised at all if Salem actually has a few hybrids set up as ‘backup vessels’ for the Fall Maiden powers in the event that Cinder bites it.
So that just leaves to question of Summer’s mental state, ie; why is she working under Salem? Is she simply a puppet? A brainwashed slave? Or even a willing follower?
Personally, I think it’s a mix of the latter two options, though mostly brainwashing. For one, Summer simply being a mindless puppet rather diminishes the impact of her working for Salem. Conversely, I think it’s hard to imagine Summer being some fully loyal and willing servant of Salem like Cinder, Tyrian or the others, if for nothing else than it’s kinda hard to square that kind of loyalty with Summer also spending years being subjected to horrific tests and experiments for Salem’s hybrid program.
I think our most likely scenario is one wherein Summer has been completely and utterly BROKEN psychologically. Via a combination of her plan to defeat Salem utterly failing, the pain and horrors of both being turned into a Grimm Hybrid and Salem’s subsequent tests and experiments, along with Salem providing a hearty dose of ‘Would you like to hear all the things Oz was lying to you about all this time? Somehow it’s actually MORE than everything.’ Not to mention likely being told whatever Salem’s REAL goals are (ie; Oz is COMPLETELY wrong about Salem’s goal being a suicidal cosmic temper tantrum).
All of which have combined to give us Summer as a psychologically broken shell of a woman who ‘believes’ in what Salem in trying to do, only in the sense that this is what Salem has groomed her into.
In effect, Summer now represents both an extreme version of what Cinder has/will become AND the dark, twisted final result of where Ruby’s self-destructive hero-complex will lead.
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*Bonus points if all present are shocked… except for our heroines, particularly Ruby who’s been dreading yet expecting this since Volume 8.
**I think it’s worth noting that we have no idea just how long Salem had the Hound on standby before Volume 8. It’s clear that Salem was using retrieving Oscar and the Lamp as a ‘test-run’ for the Hound, and there really isn’t a time in the show prior to the attack on Atlas that Salem had an opportunity to run this kind of test.
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juanarc-thethird · 2 hours
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I got a plan
Salem and Team RWBY & Co. are in the middle to get the last relic, the sword of destruction. The problem is, they are low on Aura and one hit from Salem can be letal. Is to much at risk...
Jaune: *Smiling* I got a plan.
*The group gasps in surprise!*
Oscar/Ozpin: Did I heard you right, Jaune?
Jaune: Yep, one last all or nothing gamble!
Yang: All or nothing gamble?!
Jaune: *Serious* Yeah, is my final move.
Weiss: Jaune, when you say 'Final move" You aren't referring to THAT final move, are you?
Jaune: Listen up! This is something you have to do for yourself!
Yang: Just tell us what to do and we follow your lead, Jaune!
Jaune: *Chuckles*
Quickly he jumps towards the sword, grabs it, and runs away from Salem!!
Jaune: RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!
Weiss: No!! And I knew you would do that!!
Salem: AAAAH!!!! *She begins to charge her magic*
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howlingday · 1 day
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So stupid Au idea: Fox's mute Uncle Perry(Also know as Agent P) visits and gives out Hand to Hand Combat lessons so Glyanda can take a break from classes.
In canon, Fox's uncle's name is Copper, adding to his allusion to The Fox and the Hound. But this ain't about him.
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Fox: So... I got a message from my uncle that he's going to be coming in to teach for Professor Goodwitch.
Coco: Really? What's he like?
Fox: He's... weird. Like, he'll just be sitting in the corner one minute, then the next, I can't find him anywhere.
Velvet: Does he tell you anything?
Fox: Not really. I don't think he can really talk. He just chitters like some kind of animal.
Perry: Rikikikikikikikiki...
Fox: Yeah, like that.
Coco: Well, he seems like a normal enough guy. I guess we're just... reading until the bell rings?
Fox: Sounds like it.
Yatsuhashi: Uh, guys... Where'd the professor go?
Fox: (Sighs) Not again...
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SALEM'S EVIL CASTLE EVERNIIIGHT~!
Salem: ...When did I get a jingle?
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r0semultiverse · 3 days
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Ambrosius (and Cinder?) in the Ever After
If it’s only Ambrosius, I believe this could potentially take place after the RWBY series finale, when the gods are finally confronted on their unfair bullshit & things get sorted out properly without wiping our Remnant again.
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No need for relics if the conflict is over so they either get destroyed & the spirits are freed or they get set free from their chains to the relics, allowing Ambrosius to create whatever he wants, whenever he wants, how he wants, & by his own design.
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In the very least, we know Ambrosius has to be involved, unless it's a relic spirit we haven't met yet! Those are relic spirit style doors. All the spirits we've met so far have had that light blue color theme & energy.
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I'm thinking back on these interactions & quotes from Volume 8 & it's so intriguing. I'm sure I'm not the first person to say this but, Ambrosius knew about the Ever After!
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This all but confirms that Ambrosius not only knows of the Ever After, but has been there before! He probably thought team RWBYJ wouldn't survive down there. If Somewhat isn't talking about Ambrosius, I'm going to look so goofy. 🤡
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Wait, what if all the relic spirits or at least Ambrosius were part of these secret creations? Are Jinn & Ambrosius technically afterans? Is Blacksmith tree god lady also their grandmother in this case? 👀
The only possible person I can think of besides Ambrosius is Cinder, unfortunately. She has the staff of creation & the lamp (though as far as we know all the questions are used up).
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Though this gives me a few questions if Cinder found her way into the Ever After. How did she get the same or similar blueprints as RWBY & gang? Was it Watts before he died off screen in a spinoff movie?
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Also, is she about to use the clock fruits to get more questions from Jinn? 👀 Though I'm not sure how she'd know that information.
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Maybe Salem is coming with her & she's had plenty of life times to potentially learn stuff about the Ever After. Salem could also be the only one going for all we know. Salem could absolutely know about the time fruit. 👀
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Poor Somewhat is so happy to see whoever it is, but it's probably Cinder or Salem behind Ambrosius.
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So anyway this either is a blip because of time dilation or the Ever After is getting invaded. I'll look so silly when I'm wrong on both accounts. 😂 I just know Ambrosius is involved somehow.
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scaryfaiiry · 9 months
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wis-art · 2 months
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height comparison between goat and salem @wolfertinger666
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or8ee · 16 days
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🪄Turns salem back into a puppy 🧙‍♂️🪄
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thestrawberraefae · 7 months
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beauzone · 6 months
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gonna chew on him
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02void · 8 months
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SALEM - stay down mixtape cassette, 2020
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anthurak · 3 days
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Okay so, I feel like some people need to think about WHY Summer would be working for Salem, because a lot of them tend to forget that whatever sacrifice Summer made that kept her from coming home was one she INSTANTLY regretted, was NOT planning to make when she left, and one that had consequences for Ruby she did NOT foresee.
Given that this song is the source of Summer's leitmotif, it SURE would be weird if they made Summer Rose a mustache-twirling supervillain who hates her daughters and wants to be rid of them, wouldn't it?
So while I would not be surprised if Summer's been enslaved by Salem and is being forced to do her bidding, I highly doubt she willingly or knowingly threw her own children under the bus to do so, as some people are suggesting she did (typically to try and make Raven look better).
The annoying bit is that I feel like any 'backlash' against Summer is a pretty typical case of a fandom spending years propping up a character as the greatest, most perfectist, unproblematic cinnamon roll possible, and then the moment that character is given any sort of serious flaw, suddenly they're the most terrible-terrible bad-bad person ever.
Sorry, did I say 'character'? I meant to say girl/woman. If it's a dude, they just ignore/deny said flaws til the heat-death of the universe. Just keep an eye on the reaction to when the story gives us the same rug-pull for Tai it did for Ozpin, Qrow and Ironwood...
Anyway, yeah I'm in full agreement with you on this one. Assuming that Summer isn't full-on brainwashed and/or puppeted by Salem, then we're definitely looking at a Darth Vader-esque situation wherein Summer has been utterly broken by Salem. Via a combination of her mysterious plan to stop Salem utterly failing, years of torture and hybrid experiments, plus a healthy dose of 'would you like to hear all the things Oz was lying to you about? Somehow it's MORE than 'everything'.'
More specifically, broken in a way that emphasizes Summer being a foil to Ruby. As in, showing the worst possible end that Ruby's self-destructive hero-complex could ultimately take her. Followed by Ruby not only finding a 'better way', but then along with Yang, saving their mother from this fate as well.
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lupuspluvio · 9 days
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Date night
pose by @roselipaofficial "love wins all'
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erros429 · 2 months
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rwby textposts pt41. rooster teeth may have shut down but you will never shut down my shit sense of humor!!!!!
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ghostlyxoxo · 7 months
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